On April 11 2015 17:12 TameNaken wrote: http://www.e-sportstv.net/ go here and press the button that says 설치하기 to the left side of the player, you can install in english. Then refresh to watch Korean stream. Currently Creator vs Innovation.
I also still think they should have waited another week. If for example Stats gets through one of these qualifiers but also is top 2 SPL, then they have to choose the next best player. But what if that's a tie? And so forth.
On April 11 2015 01:37 Elentos wrote: I also still think they should have waited another week. If for example Stats gets through one of these qualifiers but also is top 2 SPL, then they have to choose the next best player. But what if that's a tie? And so forth.
they should just give Stats 2 lives in the tournament
On April 11 2015 01:37 Elentos wrote: I also still think they should have waited another week. If for example Stats gets through one of these qualifiers but also is top 2 SPL, then they have to choose the next best player. But what if that's a tie? And so forth.
they should just give Stats 2 lives in the tournament
Or better yet, give one to Has!
On April 11 2015 01:39 Ramiz1989 wrote: Btw, Gumiho beat Solar 2-1 and then lost 0-2 to... Terror? What in the world...
Well there has to be a reason TerrOr gets chance after chance in SPL. I reckon it's because he does well in practice and online? :S
On April 11 2015 02:03 swissman777 wrote: So, Innovation lost against Miso, that's interesting.
Probably a no-show/forfeit.
Oov put Inno in a dungeon as punishment for losing to Byul
Torturing him.
"I TOLD YOU TO MAKE WIDOW MINES, BUT YOU DIDN'T LISTEN!" *smack*
"I TOLD YOU NOT TO GO FULL BOMBER, BUT YOU DIDN'T LISTEN!" *smack*
"I TOLD YOU HE WOULD PROXY, BUT YOU DIDN'T LISTEN!" *smack*
"I TOLD YOU WHERE TO PUT YOUR BUNKERS, BUT YOU DIDN'T LISTEN!" *smack*
Since when was smacking a viable build against the emotionless Machine? Oov's probably smacking the coach responsible for Inno's battle algorithm.
Plot twist, INno is actually a cyborg, feeling pain and emotions.
Maybe INno is the maru that doesn't care and Maru's the emotionless machine all along. I should've noticed that Maru can only smile, but that's it. This is a shameful display as a certified SCII detective like myself!
On April 11 2015 02:17 Lorning wrote: MyuNgSiK 2 - 0 Rogue
Is the dream real Lorning?
It's always real
Please LosirA, don't ruin it
He's not great against toss. I was hoping Rogue would win for full ZvZ bracket haha
Sorry for that tweet btw. I was just really frustrated Prime players didn't even bother to check the maps..
Nothing against you
Of course I was not offended. My tweet was too mean. Shoutcraft is kind of just a fun side event I wouldn't have sent something that mean about PL or GSL (probably).
On April 11 2015 02:45 Elentos wrote: So the bracket showed sOs beat Journey when I checked, then I refreshed and it says Journey won 3-0 in a best of 3. Dafuq?
Well the one from today doesn't count, way too late, the other 3 are the same exact stuff, so only one was not closed so it's effectively only one thread.
They should send emails to every pro team, tag pros on twitter/facebook and advertise this on reddit multiple times on the weeks/days leading up to the qualifers. You can't tell me you think this was well marketed.
On April 11 2015 02:45 Elentos wrote: So the bracket showed sOs beat Journey when I checked, then I refreshed and it says Journey won 3-0 in a best of 3. Dafuq?
it's when you win the game but they refuse to gg out so you gg yourself and then win the next map and beat them 3-0
Well the one from today doesn't count, way too late, the other 3 are the same exact stuff, so only one was not closed so it's effectively only one thread.
They should send emails to every pro team and advertise this on reddit multiple times on the weeks/days leading up to the qualifers. You can't tell me you think this was well marketed.
It wasn't as well marketed as it should/could have been, but there is no excuse for an org like TL to have Snute have no clue it was today. I browse TL once per day (when not hanging out in a tourney LR) and I knew the date and time of this qualifier.
Well the one from today doesn't count, way too late, the other 3 are the same exact stuff, so only one was not closed so it's effectively only one thread.
They should send emails to every pro team, tag pros on twitter/facebook and advertise this on reddit multiple times on the weeks/days leading up to the qualifers. You can't tell me you think this was well marketed.
and I thought it was teams job to ask for more information... don't they have manager, etc? :x it's not just a major tournament, it's a Kespa cup with wcs points, you would think that more players would try to be kept informed on that
I don't think ESL send a email to everyone to tell them "hey hey, WCS S2 qualifier start tomorrow, don't forget", but maybe i'm wrong
Well the one from today doesn't count, way too late, the other 3 are the same exact stuff, so only one was not closed so it's effectively only one thread.
They should send emails to every pro team and advertise this on reddit multiple times on the weeks/days leading up to the qualifers. You can't tell me you think this was well marketed.
It wasn't as well marketed as it should/could have been, but there is no excuse for an org like TL to have Snute have no clue it was today. I browse TL once per day (when not hanging out in a tourney LR) and I knew the date and time of this qualifier.
I would agree that the teams also dropped the ball.
Well the one from today doesn't count, way too late, the other 3 are the same exact stuff, so only one was not closed so it's effectively only one thread.
They should send emails to every pro team and advertise this on reddit multiple times on the weeks/days leading up to the qualifers. You can't tell me you think this was well marketed.
It wasn't as well marketed as it should/could have been, but there is no excuse for an org like TL to have Snute have no clue it was today. I browse TL once per day (when not hanging out in a tourney LR) and I knew the date and time of this qualifier.
I would agree that the teams also dropped the ball.
Yeah poorly managed on both sides imo. At the end of the day it's just unfortunate that it denied some players this opportunity. Tbh any EU players qualifying out of this would have done so thanks to KR to EU lag though
Well the one from today doesn't count, way too late, the other 3 are the same exact stuff, so only one was not closed so it's effectively only one thread.
They should send emails to every pro team, tag pros on twitter/facebook and advertise this on reddit multiple times on the weeks/days leading up to the qualifers. You can't tell me you think this was well marketed.
and I thought it was teams job to ask for more information... don't they have manager, etc? :x it's not just a major tournament, it's a Kespa cup with wcs points, you would think that more players would try to be kept informed on that
I don't think ESL send a email to everyone to tell them "hey hey, WCS S2 qualifier start tomorrow, don't forget", but maybe i'm wrong
Well WCS and IEM etc are way more out there and people know that they have to watch out for them. For new tournaments or a tournament that is holding an EU/NA qualifer for the first time, a little bit more effort at the start is a given. Just as Gfinity too.
On April 11 2015 03:08 Yorkie wrote: At least this time he lost to a protoss. Hurts less than him randomly choking so hard against Hyun
Meh, he's got 2 more qualifiers to try.
Korea and NA qualifiers likely to be more difficult. He's come up just short in GSL qualifiers 4 (at least, think it's 5) times in a row now as well. Not too optimistic.
I like how terminator gets through so many qualifiers. He's almost like a wol San to me. Qualifies for a lot of stuff but rarely wins matches once he's in the main tournament
On April 11 2015 03:27 GumBa wrote: BOOOOO Terminator. I wanted journey
Me too :/
Been a pretty meh sc2 day for me so far only Dark GuMi Dear and Flash winning was good. Rest was meh even my ladder is going bad.
Happy about Dark/Gumi. Sad about Losira/Journey/Super. Meh about everything else. Will be sad about Losira/Hyun for a while still
How do you think I feel about INno
Inno lost to a top zerg 3-2. Losira got 3-0d in probably his best MU by a zerg who is mediocre by top Korean standards
Losira may have been playing well recently but please he wasn't that favored over Hyun. People just love to underestimate the returned Koreans. MC and MMA have both shown that they aren't that far behind the Kespa Koreans.
KeSPA Cup Qualifiersin ~ Polt has a 8.49% chance to win ----going from 93.82% to 97.36% if they get 1st, or 93.49% if they don't. TaeJa has a 7.92% chance to win ----going from 1.22% to 2.14% if they get 1st, or 1.14% if they don't. Cure has a 7.6% chance to win ----going from 1.37% to 2.32% if they get 1st, or 1.29% if they don't. Flash has a 7.43% chance to win ----going from 4.09% to 6.18% if they get 1st, or 3.92% if they don't. TRUE has a 7.29% chance to win ----going from 1.36% to 2.34% if they get 1st, or 1.29% if they don't. + Show Spoiler [More Winning Chances] +
Sacsri has a 7.07% chance to win ----going from 4.85% to 7.28% if they get 1st, or 4.67% if they don't. Jaedong has a 6.9% chance to win ----going from 2.3% to 3.38% if they get 1st, or 2.22% if they don't. YoDa has a 6.82% chance to win ----going from 3.92% to 5.94% if they get 1st, or 3.77% if they don't. Heart has a 6.69% chance to win ----going from 0.77% to 1.36% if they get 1st, or 0.73% if they don't. DongRaeGu has a 6.49% chance to win ----going from 0.22% to 0.4% if they get 1st, or 0.2% if they don't. Super has a 6.4% chance to win ----going from 2.07% to 3.64% if they get 1st, or 1.96% if they don't. StarDust has a 6.3% chance to win ----going from 0.45% to 0.68% if they get 1st, or 0.43% if they don't. First has a 6.25% chance to win ----going from 0.35% to 0.62% if they get 1st, or 0.33% if they don't. San has a 6.2% chance to win ----going from 0.48% to 0.86% if they get 1st, or 0.46% if they don't. Arthur has a 6.19% chance to win ----going from 0.12% to 0.24% if they get 1st, or 0.11% if they don't. KingKong has a 6.19% chance to win ----going from 0.36% to 0.58% if they get 1st, or 0.35% if they don't. jjakji has a 6.17% chance to win ----going from 0.16% to 0.33% if they get 1st, or 0.15% if they don't. Center has a 6.12% chance to win ----going from 0.11% to 0.2% if they get 1st, or 0.1% if they don't. Armani has a 6.12% chance to win ----going from 0.12% to 0.22% if they get 1st, or 0.11% if they don't. Trust has a 6.04% chance to win ----going from 0.69% to 1.14% if they get 1st, or 0.66% if they don't. MarineKing has a 5.97% chance to win ----going from 2.34% to 3.72% if they get 1st, or 2.25% if they don't. Sora has a 5.92% chance to win ----going from 0.09% to 0.18% if they get 1st, or 0.09% if they don't. Losira has a 5.89% chance to win ----going from 0.1% to 0.2% if they get 1st, or 0.1% if they don't. Creator has a 5.87% chance to win ----going from 0.47% to 0.76% if they get 1st, or 0.45% if they don't. Patience has a 5.83% chance to win ----going from 1.03% to 1.73% if they get 1st, or 0.99% if they don't. Pet has a 5.8% chance to win ----going from 0.07% to 0.13% if they get 1st, or 0.07% if they don't. SuperNova has a 5.75% chance to win ----going from 0.11% to 0.2% if they get 1st, or 0.1% if they don't. Symbol has a 5.67% chance to win ----going from 1.11% to 1.78% if they get 1st, or 1.07% if they don't. sKyHigh has a 5.63% chance to win ----going from 0.18% to 0.32% if they get 1st, or 0.17% if they don't. Impact has a 5.58% chance to win ----going from 0.07% to 0.12% if they get 1st, or 0.06% if they don't. Curious has a 5.52% chance to win ----going from 0.58% to 0.94% if they get 1st, or 0.56% if they don't. RagnaroK has a 5.51% chance to win ----going from 0.59% to 0.97% if they get 1st, or 0.56% if they don't. MC has a 5.5% chance to win ----going from 0.73% to 1.22% if they get 1st, or 0.7% if they don't. Journey has a 5.33% chance to win ----going from 0.04% to 0.07% if they get 1st, or 0.04% if they don't. YongHwa has a 5.33% chance to win ----going from 0.07% to 0.14% if they get 1st, or 0.07% if they don't. Sorry has a 5.29% chance to win ----going from 0.41% to 0.69% if they get 1st, or 0.4% if they don't. Hack has a 5.28% chance to win ----going from 0.06% to 0.13% if they get 1st, or 0.05% if they don't. Ruin has a 5.25% chance to win ----going from 0.05% to 0.08% if they get 1st, or 0.04% if they don't. HerO has a 5.24% chance to win ----going from 0.23% to 0.4% if they get 1st, or 0.22% if they don't. Ryung has a 5.11% chance to win ----going from 0.05% to 0.1% if they get 1st, or 0.05% if they don't. Reality has a 5.04% chance to win ----going from 0.03% to 0.04% if they get 1st, or 0.03% if they don't. Pigbaby has a 5.03% chance to win ----going from 0.14% to 0.25% if they get 1st, or 0.13% if they don't. eMotion has a 4.89% chance to win ----going from 0.02% to 0.04% if they get 1st, or 0.02% if they don't. Spear has a 4.7% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.02% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Shine has a 4.66% chance to win ----going from 0.02% to 0.04% if they get 1st, or 0.02% if they don't. ValuE has a 4.62% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.02% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Oz has a 4.56% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.02% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Revival has a 4.46% chance to win ----going from 0.02% to 0.05% if they get 1st, or 0.02% if they don't. ParalyzE has a 4.46% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.02% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Check has a 4.34% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.03% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Hush has a 4.32% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.02% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Bunny has a 4.3% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. BrAvO has a 4.28% chance to win ----going from 0.06% to 0.11% if they get 1st, or 0.05% if they don't. DeParture has a 4.27% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Apocalypse has a 4.18% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.02% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Panic has a 4.14% chance to win ----going from 0.15% to 0.24% if they get 1st, or 0.14% if they don't. aLive has a 4.09% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.02% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. KeeN has a 4.02% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Action has a 3.84% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Tiger has a 3.81% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. CranK has a 3.78% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Sleep has a 3.74% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Billowy has a 3.68% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Alicia has a 3.56% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Seed has a 3.46% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. BBoongBBoong has a 3.37% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Stork has a 3.27% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Daisy has a 3.24% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Miso has a 3.17% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Zoun has a 3.01% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Hunter has a 2.43% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Rain has a 2.43% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. horror has a 2.31% chance to win ----going from 0% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0% if they don't. NesTea has a 2.29% chance to win ----going from 0% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0% if they don't. Balloon has a 2.28% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. LabyRinth has a 2.24% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. PenguiN has a 2.2% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. TheStC has a 2.13% chance to win ----going from 0% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0% if they don't. TAiLS has a 2.11% chance to win ----going from 0% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0% if they don't. TerrOr has a 2.09% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. SalvatioN has a 2.09% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Lilbow has a 1.41% chance to win ----going from 0.85% to 1.29% if they get 1st, or 0.84% if they don't. Nerchio has a 1.35% chance to win ----going from 0.5% to 0.83% if they get 1st, or 0.5% if they don't. MarineLorD has a 1.32% chance to win ----going from 0.48% to 0.69% if they get 1st, or 0.48% if they don't. MaSa has a 1.3% chance to win ----going from 0.51% to 0.86% if they get 1st, or 0.51% if they don't. HeRoMaRinE has a 1.29% chance to win ----going from 0.42% to 0.69% if they get 1st, or 0.42% if they don't. MaNa has a 1.24% chance to win ----going from 4.88% to 7.02% if they get 1st, or 4.86% if they don't. Petraeus has a 1.23% chance to win ----going from 0.25% to 0.38% if they get 1st, or 0.25% if they don't. TargA has a 1.22% chance to win ----going from 4.45% to 6.22% if they get 1st, or 4.42% if they don't. FireCake has a 1.2% chance to win ----going from 4.18% to 6.02% if they get 1st, or 4.16% if they don't. Boombox has a 1.18% chance to win ----going from 0.19% to 0.31% if they get 1st, or 0.19% if they don't. GunGFuBanDa has a 1.17% chance to win ----going from 0.17% to 0.27% if they get 1st, or 0.17% if they don't. Scarlett has a 1.17% chance to win ----going from 0.2% to 0.34% if they get 1st, or 0.2% if they don't. PtitDrogo has a 1.13% chance to win ----going from 0.22% to 0.29% if they get 1st, or 0.22% if they don't. Harstem has a 1.12% chance to win ----going from 0.26% to 0.46% if they get 1st, or 0.26% if they don't. PiG has a 1.1% chance to win ----going from 2.78% to 4.3% if they get 1st, or 2.76% if they don't. Welmu has a 1.09% chance to win ----going from 2.26% to 3.34% if they get 1st, or 2.25% if they don't. Serral has a 1.09% chance to win ----going from 3.07% to 4.47% if they get 1st, or 3.05% if they don't. Kas has a 1.08% chance to win ----going from 0.15% to 0.29% if they get 1st, or 0.15% if they don't. Bly has a 1.04% chance to win ----going from 0.09% to 0.14% if they get 1st, or 0.09% if they don't.
On April 11 2015 03:27 GumBa wrote: BOOOOO Terminator. I wanted journey
Me too :/
Been a pretty meh sc2 day for me so far only Dark GuMi Dear and Flash winning was good. Rest was meh even my ladder is going bad.
Happy about Dark/Gumi. Sad about Losira/Journey/Super. Meh about everything else. Will be sad about Losira/Hyun for a while still
How do you think I feel about INno
Inno lost to a top zerg 3-2. Losira got 3-0d in probably his best MU by a zerg who is mediocre by top Korean standards
Losira may have been playing well recently but please he wasn't that favored over Hyun. People just love to underestimate the returned Koreans. MC and MMA have both shown that they aren't that far behind the Kespa Koreans.
Faces off against Dear for the 4th spot into the first KeSPA Cup of 2015
(I don't get how Rain can beat KeSPA terrans like Cure and Bbyong and lose to Fantasy...... Is it confirmed that Fantasy's vP is better? cuz its not Rain's vT that is weaker)
On April 11 2015 09:18 Yhamm wrote: easy bracket for Losira
Nice job jinxing it man. Also his bracket wasn't even easy so no clue what you're talking about. W/e 2 strikes and Korea qualifier left. Looks like he's back to Proleague jail
On April 11 2015 09:18 Yhamm wrote: easy bracket for Losira
Nice job jinxing it man. Also his bracket wasn't even easy so no clue what you're talking about. W/e 2 strikes and Korea qualifier left. Looks like he's back to Proleague jail
rofl, relax man I said that cause he arrived in the Ro8 with only default wins
On April 11 2015 09:18 Yhamm wrote: easy bracket for Losira
Nice job jinxing it man. Also his bracket wasn't even easy so no clue what you're talking about. W/e 2 strikes and Korea qualifier left. Looks like he's back to Proleague jail
rofl, relax man I said that cause he arrived in the Ro8 with only default wins
On April 11 2015 11:22 MiniFotToss wrote: Rain 2-0 Bbyong
Faces off against Dear for the 4th spot into the first KeSPA Cup of 2015
(I don't get how Rain can beat KeSPA terrans like Cure and Bbyong and lose to Fantasy...... Is it confirmed that Fantasy's vP is better? cuz its not Rain's vT that is weaker)
They are former teammates so fantasy should know how to counter rain's very defensive marco oriented style.
Aww man, Rain lost in the final spot in both qualifiers by a score of 1-2, so sad, dunno about his chances in KR/TW server qualifier I'm willing to believe in God Rain...
On April 11 2015 13:45 Motlu wrote: Is Dear in form or not? First he loses to Ragnarok, then beats sOs and now this qualifier run.
I didn't see the Dear and Raggy games but it sounds like he's in form. He beat a good slew of people to get here and took down sOs (so that means he better be in form or i'll be mad). Or maybe Raggy is turning on god mode this season, who knows?
KeSPA Cup Qualifiersin ~ Polt has a 6.1% chance to win ----going from 93.48% to 97.22% if they get 1st, or 93.23% if they don't. TaeJa has a 5.74% chance to win ----going from 1.18% to 2.05% if they get 1st, or 1.13% if they don't. Cure has a 5.54% chance to win ----going from 1.32% to 2.24% if they get 1st, or 1.26% if they don't. Flash has a 5.38% chance to win ----going from 3.96% to 5.98% if they get 1st, or 3.85% if they don't. TRUE has a 5.3% chance to win ----going from 1.31% to 2.22% if they get 1st, or 1.25% if they don't. + Show Spoiler [More Winning Chances] +
Sacsri has a 5.14% chance to win ----going from 4.69% to 7.09% if they get 1st, or 4.56% if they don't. Jaedong has a 5.05% chance to win ----going from 2.24% to 3.29% if they get 1st, or 2.18% if they don't. YoDa has a 4.98% chance to win ----going from 3.8% to 5.76% if they get 1st, or 3.7% if they don't. Heart has a 4.88% chance to win ----going from 0.73% to 1.31% if they get 1st, or 0.7% if they don't. DongRaeGu has a 4.72% chance to win ----going from 0.2% to 0.39% if they get 1st, or 0.19% if they don't. Super has a 4.68% chance to win ----going from 1.99% to 3.56% if they get 1st, or 1.91% if they don't. StarDust has a 4.61% chance to win ----going from 0.44% to 0.67% if they get 1st, or 0.43% if they don't. San has a 4.56% chance to win ----going from 0.46% to 0.82% if they get 1st, or 0.44% if they don't. First has a 4.55% chance to win ----going from 0.33% to 0.61% if they get 1st, or 0.31% if they don't. Arthur has a 4.54% chance to win ----going from 0.12% to 0.22% if they get 1st, or 0.11% if they don't. KingKong has a 4.52% chance to win ----going from 0.35% to 0.56% if they get 1st, or 0.34% if they don't. jjakji has a 4.49% chance to win ----going from 0.15% to 0.29% if they get 1st, or 0.15% if they don't. Center has a 4.48% chance to win ----going from 0.1% to 0.22% if they get 1st, or 0.1% if they don't. Armani has a 4.47% chance to win ----going from 0.11% to 0.19% if they get 1st, or 0.11% if they don't. Trust has a 4.39% chance to win ----going from 0.67% to 1.08% if they get 1st, or 0.65% if they don't. Sora has a 4.35% chance to win ----going from 0.09% to 0.17% if they get 1st, or 0.09% if they don't. MarineKing has a 4.33% chance to win ----going from 2.26% to 3.65% if they get 1st, or 2.2% if they don't. Losira has a 4.32% chance to win ----going from 0.09% to 0.18% if they get 1st, or 0.09% if they don't. Patience has a 4.3% chance to win ----going from 0.99% to 1.56% if they get 1st, or 0.96% if they don't. Creator has a 4.29% chance to win ----going from 0.44% to 0.73% if they get 1st, or 0.43% if they don't. Pet has a 4.24% chance to win ----going from 0.07% to 0.12% if they get 1st, or 0.06% if they don't. SuperNova has a 4.22% chance to win ----going from 0.1% to 0.19% if they get 1st, or 0.1% if they don't. Symbol has a 4.14% chance to win ----going from 1.08% to 1.76% if they get 1st, or 1.05% if they don't. sKyHigh has a 4.13% chance to win ----going from 0.18% to 0.34% if they get 1st, or 0.17% if they don't. Impact has a 4.09% chance to win ----going from 0.06% to 0.11% if they get 1st, or 0.06% if they don't. Curious has a 4.06% chance to win ----going from 0.56% to 0.95% if they get 1st, or 0.54% if they don't. MC has a 4.05% chance to win ----going from 0.71% to 1.09% if they get 1st, or 0.69% if they don't. RagnaroK has a 4.03% chance to win ----going from 0.57% to 0.96% if they get 1st, or 0.55% if they don't. YongHwa has a 3.91% chance to win ----going from 0.07% to 0.13% if they get 1st, or 0.07% if they don't. Journey has a 3.89% chance to win ----going from 0.04% to 0.09% if they get 1st, or 0.04% if they don't. Sorry has a 3.88% chance to win ----going from 0.4% to 0.67% if they get 1st, or 0.39% if they don't. Hack has a 3.85% chance to win ----going from 0.05% to 0.12% if they get 1st, or 0.05% if they don't. Ruin has a 3.85% chance to win ----going from 0.04% to 0.07% if they get 1st, or 0.04% if they don't. HerO has a 3.83% chance to win ----going from 0.22% to 0.39% if they get 1st, or 0.21% if they don't. Ryung has a 3.76% chance to win ----going from 0.05% to 0.09% if they get 1st, or 0.05% if they don't. Reality has a 3.71% chance to win ----going from 0.02% to 0.05% if they get 1st, or 0.02% if they don't. Pigbaby has a 3.68% chance to win ----going from 0.13% to 0.24% if they get 1st, or 0.13% if they don't. eMotion has a 3.6% chance to win ----going from 0.02% to 0.04% if they get 1st, or 0.02% if they don't. Spear has a 3.46% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.02% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. ValuE has a 3.41% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.02% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Shine has a 3.41% chance to win ----going from 0.02% to 0.03% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Oz has a 3.35% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.02% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Revival has a 3.28% chance to win ----going from 0.02% to 0.04% if they get 1st, or 0.02% if they don't. ParalyzE has a 3.27% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.02% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Hush has a 3.18% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.02% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Check has a 3.17% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.02% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. BrAvO has a 3.17% chance to win ----going from 0.05% to 0.1% if they get 1st, or 0.05% if they don't. Bunny has a 3.15% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. DeParture has a 3.13% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Panic has a 3.06% chance to win ----going from 0.14% to 0.25% if they get 1st, or 0.14% if they don't. Apocalypse has a 3.06% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. aLive has a 3.02% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. KeeN has a 2.96% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Action has a 2.83% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Tiger has a 2.82% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. CranK has a 2.77% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Sleep has a 2.75% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Billowy has a 2.73% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Alicia has a 2.62% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Seed has a 2.56% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. BBoongBBoong has a 2.46% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Stork has a 2.43% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Daisy has a 2.4% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Miso has a 2.34% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Zoun has a 2.22% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Hunter has a 1.81% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Rain has a 1.77% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. NesTea has a 1.71% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. horror has a 1.7% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Balloon has a 1.69% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. LabyRinth has a 1.66% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. PenguiN has a 1.63% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. TAiLS has a 1.59% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. TheStC has a 1.58% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. SalvatioN has a 1.55% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. TerrOr has a 1.54% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Lilbow has a 1.02% chance to win ----going from 0.83% to 1.27% if they get 1st, or 0.83% if they don't. Nerchio has a 0.99% chance to win ----going from 0.49% to 0.83% if they get 1st, or 0.49% if they don't. MaSa has a 0.96% chance to win ----going from 0.51% to 0.79% if they get 1st, or 0.51% if they don't. MarineLorD has a 0.95% chance to win ----going from 0.47% to 0.69% if they get 1st, or 0.47% if they don't. HeRoMaRinE has a 0.93% chance to win ----going from 0.41% to 0.58% if they get 1st, or 0.41% if they don't. MaNa has a 0.91% chance to win ----going from 4.79% to 6.94% if they get 1st, or 4.77% if they don't. Petraeus has a 0.89% chance to win ----going from 0.24% to 0.42% if they get 1st, or 0.24% if they don't. TargA has a 0.88% chance to win ----going from 4.38% to 6.42% if they get 1st, or 4.36% if they don't. FireCake has a 0.87% chance to win ----going from 4.1% to 6.15% if they get 1st, or 4.08% if they don't. Boombox has a 0.86% chance to win ----going from 0.19% to 0.31% if they get 1st, or 0.19% if they don't. GunGFuBanDa has a 0.85% chance to win ----going from 0.17% to 0.27% if they get 1st, or 0.16% if they don't. Scarlett has a 0.83% chance to win ----going from 0.2% to 0.33% if they get 1st, or 0.2% if they don't. Harstem has a 0.82% chance to win ----going from 0.26% to 0.44% if they get 1st, or 0.25% if they don't. PtitDrogo has a 0.82% chance to win ----going from 0.21% to 0.3% if they get 1st, or 0.21% if they don't. PiG has a 0.81% chance to win ----going from 2.71% to 3.83% if they get 1st, or 2.7% if they don't. Welmu has a 0.8% chance to win ----going from 2.2% to 3.3% if they get 1st, or 2.19% if they don't. Kas has a 0.79% chance to win ----going from 0.15% to 0.23% if they get 1st, or 0.15% if they don't. Serral has a 0.79% chance to win ----going from 2.99% to 4.45% if they get 1st, or 2.98% if they don't. Bly has a 0.76% chance to win ----going from 0.09% to 0.18% if they get 1st, or 0.09% if they don't.
On April 11 2015 15:18 OtherWorld wrote: Lmao that racial balance so far. Who is likely to get the second PL spot since herO has the first one?
Rogue ByuL Cure or Dark are all at 10. Cure is the only one not guaranteed to play since he's slotted 4th but all 4 are in their teams' lineup
Hmm ok thanks. I think that Rogue and Dark are pretty much guaranteed to win, while it is closer to 50/50 for Cure and ByuL. So yeah we can hope to see a second Zerg besides Life, it's nice.
I think it's less race balance and more just protoss players showing up. MyuNgSiK 2-0'd Rogue and LosirA, Miso killed Polt somehow, Dear killed Flash, sKyHigh got teamkill'd, Trust 2-1'd TY and Cure, Bbyong lost to Rain, INno lost to Stats. None of these results are really big upsets (aside from Trust, but since he got multiple wins it's easier to point that to him overperforming than protoss being OP), they're just protosses beating out terrans/zergs of their skill level. It's rough sometimes, but that's how the game works.
On April 11 2015 15:18 OtherWorld wrote: Lmao that racial balance so far. Who is likely to get the second PL spot since herO has the first one?
Rogue ByuL Cure or Dark are all at 10. Cure is the only one not guaranteed to play since he's slotted 4th but all 4 are in their teams' lineup
It says top 2 players of round 2, doesn't specify whether this means r1 + r2 or r2 only, but given how they did the SSL seeds, I would assume it means r2 only. In which case, top 10:
Depending on who gets out of the Korean brackets, this opens up opportunities for the lower players to get a seed. E.g. if ByuL, Rogue and someone else get through the qualifier, Flash or Cure could still get in the top 2 by winning their games and Losira/soO/sOs losing their SPL games.
On April 11 2015 15:18 OtherWorld wrote: Lmao that racial balance so far. Who is likely to get the second PL spot since herO has the first one?
Rogue ByuL Cure or Dark are all at 10. Cure is the only one not guaranteed to play since he's slotted 4th but all 4 are in their teams' lineup
It says top 2 players of round 2, doesn't specify whether this means r1 + r2 or r2 only, but given how they did the SSL seeds, I would assume it means r2 only. In which case, top 10:
Depending on who gets out of the Korean brackets, this opens up opportunities for the lower players to get a seed. E.g. if ByuL, Rogue and someone else get through the qualifier, Flash or Cure could still get in the top 2 by winning their games and Losira/soO/sOs losing their SPL games.
Oops yeah you're right. So most likely two more Zergs, yay
On April 11 2015 16:29 Soularion wrote: I think it's less race balance and more just protoss players showing up. MyuNgSiK 2-0'd Rogue and LosirA, Miso killed Polt somehow, Dear killed Flash, sKyHigh got teamkill'd, Trust 2-1'd TY and Cure, Bbyong lost to Rain, INno lost to Stats. None of these results are really big upsets (aside from Trust, but since he got multiple wins it's easier to point that to him overperforming than protoss being OP), they're just protosses beating out terrans/zergs of their skill level. It's rough sometimes, but that's how the game works.
The exact same thing happened in the S2SL qualifiers:
I love Flash, but having to go through (probably) Hurricane, Cure, Dark, Classic/Rogue, and finally whoever comes from upper half of that bracket (Rain?). Given how he's been playing lately I'm not holding my breath here. But would at least hope he shows something and gets past Hurricane and Cure. Given his recent TvZ, have zero belief in him beating any half-decent zergs, oh me of little faith. God, I am sorry I doubt you so.
And really curious how Taeja, Impact, and Bomber do. Especially Taeja, he hasn't looked the same since coming back to KR
http://www.e-sportstv.net/ go here and press the button that says 설치하기 to the left side of the player, you can install in english. Then refresh to watch Korean stream. Currently Creator vs Innovation.
On April 11 2015 17:12 TameNaken wrote: http://www.e-sportstv.net/ go here and press the button that says 설치하기 to the left side of the player, you can install in english. Then refresh to watch Korean stream. Currently Creator vs Innovation.
On April 11 2015 16:29 Soularion wrote: I think it's less race balance and more just protoss players showing up. MyuNgSiK 2-0'd Rogue and LosirA, Miso killed Polt somehow, Dear killed Flash, sKyHigh got teamkill'd, Trust 2-1'd TY and Cure, Bbyong lost to Rain, INno lost to Stats. None of these results are really big upsets (aside from Trust, but since he got multiple wins it's easier to point that to him overperforming than protoss being OP), they're just protosses beating out terrans/zergs of their skill level. It's rough sometimes, but that's how the game works.
The exact same thing happened in the S2SL qualifiers:
Pretty much. Qualifiers : FanTaSy, jjakji, TY lost to TvT. sKyHigh traded unfortunately with Symbol. GuMi lost to Soulkey/Dark (both around his skill level if not slightly better). MarineKing sucked, Heart lost to herO. MMA lost to Trap/Creator (both around his skill level if not better). Bunny and KeeN lost to TvT. Challenger : Every terran got a rough opponent and none of them played well. Well, I didn't watch Flash's games, but the other 3 all played pretty bad, honestly. It's just that terrans haven't been playing too well recently, outside of Maru.
I was so happy for this and there is no stream except that Korean where you have to install something but I am at work and I don't have admin permission so blah......
On April 11 2015 17:30 Heartland wrote: why no english stream? :/
I for one am satisfied with the Korean stream. As much as I like our Proleague trio, sometimes they say silly things that annoy me. With the Korean casts, I wouldn't understand them if they did!
On April 11 2015 17:28 Elentos wrote: Meanwhile, Bravo beat Revival. Is there any hope Revival's career will be revived at this point? :/
Revival's career will.always be revived in my heart. I hope BrAvO will qualify btw, the kid's got skill.
I like Bravo aswell, but I'd rather ByuL or INno qualify from this bracket. INno because he kinda needs it at this point and ByuL so Flash has a better shot in SPL if he doesn't get through his shitty bracket <.<
On April 11 2015 17:30 Heartland wrote: why no english stream? :/
I for one am satisfied with the Korean stream. As much as I like our Proleague trio, sometimes they say silly things that annoy me. With the Korean casts, I wouldn't understand them if they did!
On April 11 2015 17:30 Heartland wrote: why no english stream? :/
I for one am satisfied with the Korean stream. As much as I like our Proleague trio, sometimes they say silly things that annoy me. With the Korean casts, I wouldn't understand them if they did!
Korean casters are so hyped for SC2~~
I watched a ridiculous amount of Korean-casted Brood War, I kinda miss that cuz I never do this with SC2 these days. their passion and energy almost completely makes up for the fact you can't understand much.
I'm the same way with the Proleague trio. I'm okay with them for the most part, especially Moonglade, but sometimes they bug the shit out of me with the way they over-simplify why X player lost to Y player, and then sometimes they (kinda disrespectfully imo) slag off and mock the losing player super hard. Other casters do it at times as well, but for some reason it bothers me a lot more with the Proleague guys. I dunno sometimes it feels like their "analysis" is too obvious... but anyway, I digress.
On April 11 2015 17:48 Soularion wrote: YO MY MAN IAN THOUGH
Ian is AFAIK the only foreigner practicing in Korea atm. Paying off.
He was, I'm not sure if he still is. If he's still in Korea, I have no clue why SoTerrible-Yoe haven't fielded him yet. State left, btw.
Because there are better players on their roster
Do you honestly think Ian is significantly worse than, say, Daisy or Pet? I mean, at -minimum- it's worth giving him a try. Not like they have anything to lose.
On April 11 2015 17:48 Soularion wrote: YO MY MAN IAN THOUGH
Ian is AFAIK the only foreigner practicing in Korea atm. Paying off.
He was, I'm not sure if he still is. If he's still in Korea, I have no clue why SoTerrible-Yoe haven't fielded him yet. State left, btw.
Because there are better players on their roster
Do you honestly think Ian is significantly worse than, say, Daisy or Pet? I mean, at -minimum- it's worth giving him a try. Not like they have anything to lose.
He's definitely worse than Pet, but yeah I think I'd field him over daisy. At worst he gets proxy-gated, at beast we can make a fun of the Korean who loses to him.
On April 11 2015 17:48 Soularion wrote: YO MY MAN IAN THOUGH
Ian is AFAIK the only foreigner practicing in Korea atm. Paying off.
He was, I'm not sure if he still is. If he's still in Korea, I have no clue why SoTerrible-Yoe haven't fielded him yet. State left, btw.
Because there are better players on their roster
Do you honestly think Ian is significantly worse than, say, Daisy or Pet? I mean, at -minimum- it's worth giving him a try. Not like they have anything to lose.
Pet? Yes. Daisy, dunno, have only seen him once. But probably yes. And since they're in need of a sponsor, they'd probably want their best players playing.
The one game I've seen from Daisy was against Zest btw. I'll give any protoss the benefit of the doubt after losing to Zest.
On April 11 2015 17:48 Soularion wrote: YO MY MAN IAN THOUGH
Ian is AFAIK the only foreigner practicing in Korea atm. Paying off.
He was, I'm not sure if he still is. If he's still in Korea, I have no clue why SoTerrible-Yoe haven't fielded him yet. State left, btw.
Because there are better players on their roster
Do you honestly think Ian is significantly worse than, say, Daisy or Pet? I mean, at -minimum- it's worth giving him a try. Not like they have anything to lose.
Pet? Yes. Daisy, dunno, have only seen him once. But probably yes. And since they're in need of a sponsor, they'd probably want their best players playing.
The one game I've seen from Daisy was against Zest btw. I'll give any protoss the benefit of the doubt after losing to Zest.
I really wanna see Ian vs Dark. Might be interesting.
On April 11 2015 17:48 Soularion wrote: YO MY MAN IAN THOUGH
Ian is AFAIK the only foreigner practicing in Korea atm. Paying off.
He was, I'm not sure if he still is. If he's still in Korea, I have no clue why SoTerrible-Yoe haven't fielded him yet. State left, btw.
Because there are better players on their roster
Do you honestly think Ian is significantly worse than, say, Daisy or Pet? I mean, at -minimum- it's worth giving him a try. Not like they have anything to lose.
Pet? Yes. Daisy, dunno, have only seen him once. But probably yes. And since they're in need of a sponsor, they'd probably want their best players playing.
The one game I've seen from Daisy was against Zest btw. I'll give any protoss the benefit of the doubt after losing to Zest.
On April 11 2015 17:48 Soularion wrote: YO MY MAN IAN THOUGH
Ian is AFAIK the only foreigner practicing in Korea atm. Paying off.
He was, I'm not sure if he still is. If he's still in Korea, I have no clue why SoTerrible-Yoe haven't fielded him yet. State left, btw.
Because there are better players on their roster
Do you honestly think Ian is significantly worse than, say, Daisy or Pet? I mean, at -minimum- it's worth giving him a try. Not like they have anything to lose.
Pet? Yes. Daisy, dunno, have only seen him once. But probably yes. And since they're in need of a sponsor, they'd probably want their best players playing.
The one game I've seen from Daisy was against Zest btw. I'll give any protoss the benefit of the doubt after losing to Zest.
I really wanna see Ian vs Dark. Might be interesting.
I mean at least Dark can't proxy gate or proxy rax him, so why not
On April 11 2015 18:10 GumBa wrote: Can we even consider non Maru/Dream terrans good anymore?
If you can't consider Flash, INno, etc. good, then we can't really consider Dream good either. Dream hasn't really done much since getting rekt by Maru, aside from getting rekt by $O$ and not completely sucking vs SuNo. Dream vs Life is legitimately the only reason why he's considered a top terran.
On April 11 2015 18:10 GumBa wrote: Can we even consider non Maru/Dream terrans good anymore?
If you can't consider Flash, INno, etc. good, then we can't really consider Dream good either. Dream hasn't really done much since getting rekt by Maru, aside from getting rekt by $O$ and not completely sucking vs SuNo. Dream vs Life is legitimately the only reason why he's considered a top terran.
On April 11 2015 18:10 GumBa wrote: Can we even consider non Maru/Dream terrans good anymore?
Polt reached 4.3/5 Dreams in splitting in the WCS Finals against Hydra, tho.
But that opens up a whole new set of questions like if WCS players can be considered good.
I don't think you can be considered good in a global sense based on WCS standings alone. WCS is basically equal to a low-mid tier foreign tournament. Does it help you be good if you have some other big result? Yup. Does it single-handedly make you a good player? I don't think so.
On April 11 2015 18:10 GumBa wrote: Can we even consider non Maru/Dream terrans good anymore?
If you can't consider Flash, INno, etc. good, then we can't really consider Dream good either. Dream hasn't really done much since getting rekt by Maru, aside from getting rekt by $O$ and not completely sucking vs SuNo. Dream vs Life is legitimately the only reason why he's considered a top terran.
On April 11 2015 18:10 GumBa wrote: Can we even consider non Maru/Dream terrans good anymore?
If you can't consider Flash, INno, etc. good, then we can't really consider Dream good either. Dream hasn't really done much since getting rekt by Maru, aside from getting rekt by $O$ and not completely sucking vs SuNo. Dream vs Life is legitimately the only reason why he's considered a top terran.
On April 11 2015 18:10 GumBa wrote: Can we even consider non Maru/Dream terrans good anymore?
If you can't consider Flash, INno, etc. good, then we can't really consider Dream good either. Dream hasn't really done much since getting rekt by Maru, aside from getting rekt by $O$ and not completely sucking vs SuNo. Dream vs Life is legitimately the only reason why he's considered a top terran.
NSSL finals was really broken down into having good TvP, great TvZ and his series vs Life. His PL performance has been pretty good, and his GSL performance was pretty bluh. I think he'd still be considered pretty good - definitely 2nd best terran right now - but I don't think he's really a top player right now.
I don't hate him or anything. I do think he's a good player, I just don't think that he's really proven himself as anything since his series vs Life.
On April 11 2015 18:10 GumBa wrote: Can we even consider non Maru/Dream terrans good anymore?
Polt reached 4.3/5 Dreams in splitting in the WCS Finals against Hydra, tho.
But that opens up a whole new set of questions like if WCS players can be considered good.
I don't think you can be considered good in a global sense based on WCS standings alone. WCS is basically equal to a low-mid tier foreign tournament. Does it help you be good if you have some other big result? Yup. Does it single-handedly make you a good player? I don't think so.
Dream deserves to be talked about as a truly elite Terran at the moment, although you have to wonder if he can keep the form up he's had since the start of 2015. Maru, for me, has been a class above the rest for a long, long time now.
On April 11 2015 18:10 GumBa wrote: Can we even consider non Maru/Dream terrans good anymore?
If you can't consider Flash, INno, etc. good, then we can't really consider Dream good either. Dream hasn't really done much since getting rekt by Maru, aside from getting rekt by $O$ and not completely sucking vs SuNo. Dream vs Life is legitimately the only reason why he's considered a top terran.
NSSL finals was really broken down into having good TvP, great TvZ and his series vs Life. His PL performance has been pretty good, and his GSL performance was pretty bluh. I think he'd still be considered pretty good - definitely 2nd best terran right now - but I don't think he's really a top player right now.
We have barely seen him recently and I think you are being waaay to harsh. Having 2 excellent mu is enough to considered a top player. Look at Zest at his peak or MMA at his.
On April 11 2015 18:10 GumBa wrote: Can we even consider non Maru/Dream terrans good anymore?
If you can't consider Flash, INno, etc. good, then we can't really consider Dream good either. Dream hasn't really done much since getting rekt by Maru, aside from getting rekt by $O$ and not completely sucking vs SuNo. Dream vs Life is legitimately the only reason why he's considered a top terran.
NSSL finals was really broken down into having good TvP, great TvZ and his series vs Life. His PL performance has been pretty good, and his GSL performance was pretty bluh. I think he'd still be considered pretty good - definitely 2nd best terran right now - but I don't think he's really a top player right now.
We have barely seen him recently and I think you are being waaay to harsh. Having 2 excellent mu is enough to considered a top player. Look at Zest at his peak or MMA at his.
I wouldn't call his TvP excellent, I'd only consider his TvZ (and even then it's far from super consistent - look at his death to Rogue in GSL) truly excellent. But yeah I might be being too harsh. He's definitely the #2 terran right now, I'm just a bit lukewarm on him as a whole.
On April 11 2015 18:10 GumBa wrote: Can we even consider non Maru/Dream terrans good anymore?
If you can't consider Flash, INno, etc. good, then we can't really consider Dream good either. Dream hasn't really done much since getting rekt by Maru, aside from getting rekt by $O$ and not completely sucking vs SuNo. Dream vs Life is legitimately the only reason why he's considered a top terran.
NSSL finals was really broken down into having good TvP, great TvZ and his series vs Life. His PL performance has been pretty good, and his GSL performance was pretty bluh. I think he'd still be considered pretty good - definitely 2nd best terran right now - but I don't think he's really a top player right now.
We have barely seen him recently and I think you are being waaay to harsh. Having 2 excellent mu is enough to considered a top player. Look at Zest at his peak or MMA at his.
I wouldn't call his TvP excellent, I'd only consider his TvZ (and even then it's far from super consistent - look at his death to Rogue in GSL) truly excellent. But yeah I might be being too harsh. He's definitely the #2 terran right now, I'm just a bit lukewarm on him as a whole.
His match up prep is insane. One saw he hadnt practiced TvZ in that series vs rogue cause we went on to slay Rain and Super in incredibly one sided series. Maru is far and away #1 terran right now but I think Dream is definetly a solid #2 it's really just his TvT holding him back imo
On April 11 2015 18:10 GumBa wrote: Can we even consider non Maru/Dream terrans good anymore?
If you can't consider Flash, INno, etc. good, then we can't really consider Dream good either. Dream hasn't really done much since getting rekt by Maru, aside from getting rekt by $O$ and not completely sucking vs SuNo. Dream vs Life is legitimately the only reason why he's considered a top terran.
NSSL finals was really broken down into having good TvP, great TvZ and his series vs Life. His PL performance has been pretty good, and his GSL performance was pretty bluh. I think he'd still be considered pretty good - definitely 2nd best terran right now - but I don't think he's really a top player right now.
We have barely seen him recently and I think you are being waaay to harsh. Having 2 excellent mu is enough to considered a top player. Look at Zest at his peak or MMA at his.
I wouldn't call his TvP excellent, I'd only consider his TvZ (and even then it's far from super consistent - look at his death to Rogue in GSL) truly excellent. But yeah I might be being too harsh. He's definitely the #2 terran right now, I'm just a bit lukewarm on him as a whole.
His match up prep is insane. One saw he hadnt practiced TvZ in that series vs rogue cause we went on to slay Rain and Super in incredibly one sided series. Maru is far and away #1 terran right now but I think Dream is definetly a solid #2 it's really just his TvT holding him back imo
I can agree with that! I guess I'm a bit salty since him losing to sOs cost me like 8 FPL points (maybe more if Maru won ace)
On April 11 2015 18:24 Inflicted wrote: soO 2-0 Seed
The soO train stops for no man right now, apparently.
And yet Seed is the one laughing for he won a GSL
I hope seed bough ByuN and Symbol massive thanks for throwing presents after his final win.
He stole their souls, I doubt they ever wanna see his face again
Seed is evil. Steals peoples souls so they throw. Deliver a terrible finals. Then sucks.
And now he plays for Choya
To be fair though, Seed was one of the biggest ballers in his prime. Be down 0-2 to Symbol in a BL/infestor era when Symbol was probably THE best BL/infestor zerg. Throw a manner nexus in Symbol's face in game 3 when you're ahead. Win the series 3-2.
watching Leenock makes me want play ZvP, but then I know that my +1 melee build will just meet 3 cannon at the 3rd and I will be mopped by stalker-collo later on
Flash, Dark, Cure, Classic, Rogue, Trap and Rain in the same bracket. Meanwhile in bracket 1, YoDa only had to play 2 series to get to the Ro4. I call shenanigans.
On April 11 2015 18:49 Elentos wrote: Flash, Dark, Cure, Classic, Rogue, Trap and Rain in the same bracket. Meanwhile in bracket 1, YoDa only had to play 2 series to get to the Ro4. I call shenanigans.
On April 11 2015 18:49 Elentos wrote: Flash, Dark, Cure, Classic, Rogue, Trap and Rain in the same bracket. Meanwhile in bracket 1, YoDa only had to play 2 series to get to the Ro4. I call shenanigans.
But he's in the way of ByuL vs INno
I doubt he'll be in ByuL's way for long. Unless he plays mech. Huehuehue.
Bbyong vs soO in Bracket 2 semifinal. would love to watch that one. Bbyong always feels like one of the more under-appreciated Terrans... dude's got mad skills but just can't seem to pull off a great individual league run, for whatever reason.
On April 11 2015 19:01 jonich0n wrote: Bbyong vs soO in Bracket 2 semifinal. would love to watch that one. Bbyong always feels like one of the more under-appreciated Terrans... dude's got mad skills but just can't seem to pull off a great individual league run, for whatever reason.
He's too creative. I mean who the fuck mechs vs P?
On April 11 2015 19:01 jonich0n wrote: Bbyong vs soO in Bracket 2 semifinal. would love to watch that one. Bbyong always feels like one of the more under-appreciated Terrans... dude's got mad skills but just can't seem to pull off a great individual league run, for whatever reason.
He's too creative. I mean who the fuck mechs vs P?
On April 11 2015 19:01 jonich0n wrote: Bbyong vs soO in Bracket 2 semifinal. would love to watch that one. Bbyong always feels like one of the more under-appreciated Terrans... dude's got mad skills but just can't seem to pull off a great individual league run, for whatever reason.
He's too creative. I mean who the fuck mechs vs P?
Would have been creative if he won, we never see that. Alas it wasn't.
So now it would be nice if ByuL and soO qualified so Flash still has a chance through SPL <.< I guess he could anyway but then he'd have to beat Panic and either every other contender loses or KT vs MVP goes to ace and he wins in that, too.
On April 11 2015 19:23 Rocket-Bear wrote: fuck me, Leenock why TT We don't need another protoss, already got 7 and just 1 zerg..
Would've been perfect for him too. He has good ZvP :/
Not Really, he would have to go up against Rain who he hasn't beaten in a long time, and it doesn't matter with slump cuz about less than a month ago there was a mYi vs Yoe Flash Wolves Show match Rain 2-0'd Leenock, so not really perfect
On April 11 2015 19:35 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: Dark>Classic.
Shit I want to see Dark vs Rain
I don't, Rain will probably lose again in final round vs Dark (3 times in a row) and I don't want see that happen, at least Rain has a winning record against Classic, so I want to see Rain vs Classic.
On April 11 2015 19:35 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: Dark>Classic.
Shit I want to see Dark vs Rain
I don't, Rain will probably lose again in final round vs Dark 3 times in a row and I don't want that to happen, at least Rain has a winning record against Classic so I want to see Rain vs Classic
On April 11 2015 19:41 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: Rain needs to lose more for him to realize that he should go home to Kespa. Same goes for Soulkey. Plz come back home.
Soulkey beats First and plays vs soO in the bracket finals.
On April 11 2015 19:40 Elentos wrote: If ByuL and soO qualify through these brackets, the players in contention for the SPL round 2 spots are:
Rogue (4-0) Losira (4-3, plays vs Life if not 3-0) sOs (4-3) Flash (3-1) Cure (3-1) sKyHigh (3-1 but doesn't play this week)
SPL hype!
worth mentioning that Life is already qualified, so him qualifying would just mean next guy in PL gets his spot
Right, I forgot <.<
Edit: Classic and Panic also technically still could get there if they win their matches, and then win ace matches for their respective teams (both at 2-0 currently).
On April 11 2015 19:40 Elentos wrote: If ByuL and soO qualify through these brackets, the players in contention for the SPL round 2 spots are:
Rogue (4-0) Losira (4-3, plays vs Life if not 3-0) sOs (4-3) Flash (3-1) Cure (3-1) sKyHigh (3-1 but doesn't play this week)
SPL hype!
worth mentioning that Life is already qualified, so him qualifying would just mean next guy in PL gets his spot
Right, I forgot <.<
Edit: Classic and Panic also technically still could get there if they win their matches, and then win ace matches for their respective teams (both at 2-0 currently).
On April 11 2015 19:40 Elentos wrote: If ByuL and soO qualify through these brackets, the players in contention for the SPL round 2 spots are:
Rogue (4-0) Losira (4-3, plays vs Life if not 3-0) sOs (4-3) Flash (3-1) Cure (3-1) sKyHigh (3-1 but doesn't play this week)
SPL hype!
worth mentioning that Life is already qualified, so him qualifying would just mean next guy in PL gets his spot
Right, I forgot <.<
Edit: Classic and Panic also technically still could get there if they win their matches, and then win ace matches for their respective teams (both at 2-0 currently).
PANIC PLEASE :O
Panic plays Flash, it's the showdown that might decide the SPL spot <.< Nah, probably not. The most important one for that will be herO vs sOs. If sOs wins he's at 5 wins which only 2 players can reach without ace matches :S
On April 11 2015 19:40 Elentos wrote: If ByuL and soO qualify through these brackets, the players in contention for the SPL round 2 spots are:
Rogue (4-0) Losira (4-3, plays vs Life if not 3-0) sOs (4-3) Flash (3-1) Cure (3-1) sKyHigh (3-1 but doesn't play this week)
SPL hype!
worth mentioning that Life is already qualified, so him qualifying would just mean next guy in PL gets his spot
Right, I forgot <.<
Edit: Classic and Panic also technically still could get there if they win their matches, and then win ace matches for their respective teams (both at 2-0 currently).
PANIC PLEASE :O
Panic plays Flash, it's the showdown that might decide the SPL spot <.< Nah, probably not. The most important one for that will be herO vs sOs. If sOs wins he's at 5 wins which only 2 players can reach without ace matches :S
I think Rogue will have something to say about that? :p
On April 11 2015 19:40 Elentos wrote: If ByuL and soO qualify through these brackets, the players in contention for the SPL round 2 spots are:
Rogue (4-0) Losira (4-3, plays vs Life if not 3-0) sOs (4-3) Flash (3-1) Cure (3-1) sKyHigh (3-1 but doesn't play this week)
SPL hype!
worth mentioning that Life is already qualified, so him qualifying would just mean next guy in PL gets his spot
Right, I forgot <.<
Edit: Classic and Panic also technically still could get there if they win their matches, and then win ace matches for their respective teams (both at 2-0 currently).
PANIC PLEASE :O
Panic plays Flash, it's the showdown that might decide the SPL spot <.< Nah, probably not. The most important one for that will be herO vs sOs. If sOs wins he's at 5 wins which only 2 players can reach without ace matches :S
I think Rogue will have something to say about that? :p
Basically, if Rogue beats Hush he gets one of the SPL seeds. If he loses, he has a chance of still getting it. But this is under the assumption that ByuL and soO get through the qualifiers. If they don't, everything changes~~
On April 11 2015 19:54 GumBa wrote: I wonder what it's like when two teammates meet in a qualifier what its like in the teamhouse YES INNO
INnoVation 2-0'd Sorry in the Americal Qualifier today and now Dark vs Classic. man these SKT guys keep getting in each others way.....
Fantasy and Rain constantly hit each other aswell. Soulkey vs soO in the bracket finals of bracket 2. You're not safe from the SKT team kill even after leaving :S
On April 11 2015 19:54 GumBa wrote: I wonder what it's like when two teammates meet in a qualifier what its like in the teamhouse YES INNO
INnoVation 2-0'd Sorry in the Americal Qualifier today and now Dark vs Classic. man these SKT guys keep getting in each others way.....
Fantasy and Rain constantly hit each other aswell. You're not safe from the SKT team kill even after leaving :S
LOL, then there was Classic vs Rain, Rain vs Soulkey and PartinG vs Classic in IEM Taipei; Rain vs Fantasy in IEM WC; Rain vs PartinG, PartinG vs Soulkey and Rain vs Fantasy in Gfinity Spring Master I, Parting vs Fantasy and Rain vs Fantasy in Copenhagen games 2015
On April 11 2015 19:54 GumBa wrote: I wonder what it's like when two teammates meet in a qualifier what its like in the teamhouse YES INNO
INnoVation 2-0'd Sorry in the Americal Qualifier today and now Dark vs Classic. man these SKT guys keep getting in each others way.....
Fantasy and Rain constantly hit each other aswell. You're not safe from the SKT team kill even after leaving :S
LOL, then there was Classic vs Rain, Rain vs Soulkey and PartinG vs Classic in IEM Taipei; Rain vs Fantasy in IEM WC; Rain vs PartinG, PartinG vs Soulkey and Rain vs Fantasy in Gfinity Spring Master I, Parting vs Fantasy and Rain vs Fantasy in Copenhagen games 2015
It's natural that we face each other since no other team can stop SKT :D
On April 11 2015 19:54 GumBa wrote: I wonder what it's like when two teammates meet in a qualifier what its like in the teamhouse YES INNO
INnoVation 2-0'd Sorry in the Americal Qualifier today and now Dark vs Classic. man these SKT guys keep getting in each others way.....
Fantasy and Rain constantly hit each other aswell. You're not safe from the SKT team kill even after leaving :S
LOL, then there was Classic vs Rain, Rain vs Soulkey and PartinG vs Classic in IEM Taipei; Rain vs Fantasy in IEM WC; Rain vs PartinG, PartinG vs Soulkey and Rain vs Fantasy in Gfinity Spring Master I, Parting vs Fantasy and Rain vs Fantasy in Copenhagen games 2015
It's natural that we face each other since no other team can stop SKT :D
On April 11 2015 19:54 GumBa wrote: I wonder what it's like when two teammates meet in a qualifier what its like in the teamhouse YES INNO
INnoVation 2-0'd Sorry in the Americal Qualifier today and now Dark vs Classic. man these SKT guys keep getting in each others way.....
Fantasy and Rain constantly hit each other aswell. You're not safe from the SKT team kill even after leaving :S
LOL, then there was Classic vs Rain, Rain vs Soulkey and PartinG vs Classic in IEM Taipei; Rain vs Fantasy in IEM WC; Rain vs PartinG, PartinG vs Soulkey and Rain vs Fantasy in Gfinity Spring Master I, Parting vs Fantasy and Rain vs Fantasy in Copenhagen games 2015
It's natural that we face each other since no other team can stop SKT :D
On April 11 2015 19:54 GumBa wrote: I wonder what it's like when two teammates meet in a qualifier what its like in the teamhouse YES INNO
INnoVation 2-0'd Sorry in the Americal Qualifier today and now Dark vs Classic. man these SKT guys keep getting in each others way.....
Fantasy and Rain constantly hit each other aswell. You're not safe from the SKT team kill even after leaving :S
LOL, then there was Classic vs Rain, Rain vs Soulkey and PartinG vs Classic in IEM Taipei; Rain vs Fantasy in IEM WC; Rain vs PartinG, PartinG vs Soulkey and Rain vs Fantasy in Gfinity Spring Master I, Parting vs Fantasy and Rain vs Fantasy in Copenhagen games 2015
It's natural that we face each other since no other team can stop SKT :D
On April 11 2015 19:54 GumBa wrote: I wonder what it's like when two teammates meet in a qualifier what its like in the teamhouse YES INNO
INnoVation 2-0'd Sorry in the Americal Qualifier today and now Dark vs Classic. man these SKT guys keep getting in each others way.....
Fantasy and Rain constantly hit each other aswell. You're not safe from the SKT team kill even after leaving :S
LOL, then there was Classic vs Rain, Rain vs Soulkey and PartinG vs Classic in IEM Taipei; Rain vs Fantasy in IEM WC; Rain vs PartinG, PartinG vs Soulkey and Rain vs Fantasy in Gfinity Spring Master I, Parting vs Fantasy and Rain vs Fantasy in Copenhagen games 2015
It's natural that we face each other since no other team can stop SKT :D
On April 11 2015 19:54 GumBa wrote: I wonder what it's like when two teammates meet in a qualifier what its like in the teamhouse YES INNO
INnoVation 2-0'd Sorry in the Americal Qualifier today and now Dark vs Classic. man these SKT guys keep getting in each others way.....
Fantasy and Rain constantly hit each other aswell. You're not safe from the SKT team kill even after leaving :S
LOL, then there was Classic vs Rain, Rain vs Soulkey and PartinG vs Classic in IEM Taipei; Rain vs Fantasy in IEM WC; Rain vs PartinG, PartinG vs Soulkey and Rain vs Fantasy in Gfinity Spring Master I, Parting vs Fantasy and Rain vs Fantasy in Copenhagen games 2015
It's natural that we face each other since no other team can stop SKT :D
On April 11 2015 20:41 lastride wrote: if ByuL and soO advance does Flash still got a chance?
Theoretically. If he wins vs Panic and none of Losira, sOs and Cure get a win this week in SPL for one. Also, if Flash wins his first match on Tuesday and then plays in and wins an ace match he's at 5-1 for round 2, which would most likely be enough. So yes, he has a realistic chance if soO and ByuL make it.
On April 11 2015 20:48 Elentos wrote: Soulkey with the top tier ling control.
Forgot to micro his Mutas though...
Yeah. soO equalises because Soulkey lost more than half his mutas at soO's natural and also a bunch of drones because apparently no Zerg realises the strength of the spore.
On April 11 2015 19:54 GumBa wrote: I wonder what it's like when two teammates meet in a qualifier what its like in the teamhouse YES INNO
INnoVation 2-0'd Sorry in the Americal Qualifier today and now Dark vs Classic. man these SKT guys keep getting in each others way.....
Fantasy and Rain constantly hit each other aswell. You're not safe from the SKT team kill even after leaving :S
LOL, then there was Classic vs Rain, Rain vs Soulkey and PartinG vs Classic in IEM Taipei; Rain vs Fantasy in IEM WC; Rain vs PartinG, PartinG vs Soulkey and Rain vs Fantasy in Gfinity Spring Master I, Parting vs Fantasy and Rain vs Fantasy in Copenhagen games 2015
It's natural that we face each other since no other team can stop SKT :D
Indeed, no one is going to stop you from getting 3-0'd by CJ
On April 11 2015 21:18 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: 1-1 lings doing work!
1-1 Lings are eating Roaches alive if there isn't some huge chunk of Roaches or Banelings though. Not sure what is happening since I can't watch the games on this player.
The last participants shall be the Top 2 players from the current Proleague round. Is there a chance for one of them to be a Terran? Many of the first ones are already qualified.
On April 11 2015 21:18 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: 1-1 lings doing work!
1-1 Lings are eating Roaches alive if there isn't some huge chunk of Roaches or Banelings though. Not sure what is happening since I can't watch the games on this player.
On April 11 2015 21:20 TheDwf wrote: The last participants shall be the Top 2 players from the current Proleague round. Is there a chance for one of them to be a Terran? Many of the first ones are already qualified.
Cure or Flash can theoretically get into top 2 depending on the results in SPL Monday/Tuesday.
On April 11 2015 21:20 TheDwf wrote: The last participants shall be the Top 2 players from the current Proleague round. Is there a chance for one of them to be a Terran? Many of the first ones are already qualified.
Cure or Flash can theoretically get into top 2 depending on the results in SPL Monday/Tuesday.
On April 11 2015 21:20 TheDwf wrote: The last participants shall be the Top 2 players from the current Proleague round. Is there a chance for one of them to be a Terran? Many of the first ones are already qualified.
Cure or Flash can theoretically get into top 2 depending on the results in SPL Monday/Tuesday.
Thanks!
Rogue would have to lose though. Then it'll be a 3 way tie at 4-1. Not sure how kespa will address tiebreakers if it happens. I just hope its better than their MVP selection process.
Rogue (4-0) soO (4-2) sOs (4-3) Losira (4-3) Flash (3-1) Cure (3-1)
sKyHigh is 3-1 but doesn't play this week. Some players at 2 wins have a theoretical shot if they win 2 games in SPL and all contenders above lose <.<.
On April 11 2015 21:26 Elentos wrote: Obviously fighting for the SPL seeds:
Rogue (4-0) soO (4-2) sOs (4-3) Losira (4-3) Flash (3-1) Cure (3-1)
sKyHigh is 3-1 but doesn't play this week. Some players at 2 wins have a theoretical shot if they win 2 games in SPL and all contenders above lose <.<.
On April 11 2015 21:20 TheDwf wrote: The last participants shall be the Top 2 players from the current Proleague round. Is there a chance for one of them to be a Terran? Many of the first ones are already qualified.
Cure or Flash can theoretically get into top 2 depending on the results in SPL Monday/Tuesday.
Thanks!
Rogue would have to lose though. Then it'll be a 3 way tie at 4-1. Not sure how kespa will address tiebreakers if it happens. I just hope its better than their MVP selection process.
Well that was just for 1 Terran. That's why I said or. Rogue pretty much has his SPL seed in the bag.
On April 11 2015 21:26 Elentos wrote: Obviously fighting for the SPL seeds:
Rogue (4-0) soO (4-2) sOs (4-3) Losira (4-3) Flash (3-1) Cure (3-1)
sKyHigh is 3-1 but doesn't play this week. Some players at 2 wins have a theoretical shot if they win 2 games in SPL and all contenders above lose <.<.
Did you confirm whether or not it's overall ranking or just round 2? Or is this all just under the assumption it's round 2 only?
On April 11 2015 21:26 Elentos wrote: Obviously fighting for the SPL seeds:
Rogue (4-0) soO (4-2) sOs (4-3) Losira (4-3) Flash (3-1) Cure (3-1)
sKyHigh is 3-1 but doesn't play this week. Some players at 2 wins have a theoretical shot if they win 2 games in SPL and all contenders above lose <.<.
Losira plz
No one understands how PL grading works. For some reason Life is MVP over a bunch of guys with better records?
On April 11 2015 21:26 Elentos wrote: Obviously fighting for the SPL seeds:
Rogue (4-0) soO (4-2) sOs (4-3) Losira (4-3) Flash (3-1) Cure (3-1)
sKyHigh is 3-1 but doesn't play this week. Some players at 2 wins have a theoretical shot if they win 2 games in SPL and all contenders above lose <.<.
Losira plz
No one understands how PL grading works. For some reason Life is MVP over a bunch of guys with better records?
On April 11 2015 21:26 Elentos wrote: Obviously fighting for the SPL seeds:
Rogue (4-0) soO (4-2) sOs (4-3) Losira (4-3) Flash (3-1) Cure (3-1)
sKyHigh is 3-1 but doesn't play this week. Some players at 2 wins have a theoretical shot if they win 2 games in SPL and all contenders above lose <.<.
Did you confirm whether or not it's overall ranking or just round 2? Or is this all just under the assumption it's round 2 only?
Can't confirm, it's under the assumption that KeSPA does it the way they did with SSL which was one round only.
On April 11 2015 21:26 Elentos wrote: Obviously fighting for the SPL seeds:
Rogue (4-0) soO (4-2) sOs (4-3) Losira (4-3) Flash (3-1) Cure (3-1)
sKyHigh is 3-1 but doesn't play this week. Some players at 2 wins have a theoretical shot if they win 2 games in SPL and all contenders above lose <.<.
Losira plz
No one understands how PL grading works. For some reason Life is MVP over a bunch of guys with better records?
dirty KT money
explains Roro over Soulkey in 2013, who the fuck even comes to that conclusion?
On April 11 2015 21:26 Elentos wrote: Obviously fighting for the SPL seeds:
Rogue (4-0) soO (4-2) sOs (4-3) Losira (4-3) Flash (3-1) Cure (3-1)
sKyHigh is 3-1 but doesn't play this week. Some players at 2 wins have a theoretical shot if they win 2 games in SPL and all contenders above lose <.<.
Losira plz
No one understands how PL grading works. For some reason Life is MVP over a bunch of guys with better records?
dirty KT money
explains Roro over Soulkey in 2013, who the fuck even comes to that conclusion?
I thought it was obvious that Kespa Chairmen were in fact the Injustice League?
On April 11 2015 21:26 Elentos wrote: Obviously fighting for the SPL seeds:
Rogue (4-0) soO (4-2) sOs (4-3) Losira (4-3) Flash (3-1) Cure (3-1)
sKyHigh is 3-1 but doesn't play this week. Some players at 2 wins have a theoretical shot if they win 2 games in SPL and all contenders above lose <.<.
Losira plz
No one understands how PL grading works. For some reason Life is MVP over a bunch of guys with better records?
dirty KT money
explains Roro over Soulkey in 2013, who the fuck even comes to that conclusion?
I thought it was obvious that Kespa Chairmen were in fact the Injustice League?
On April 11 2015 21:26 Elentos wrote: Obviously fighting for the SPL seeds:
Rogue (4-0) soO (4-2) sOs (4-3) Losira (4-3) Flash (3-1) Cure (3-1)
sKyHigh is 3-1 but doesn't play this week. Some players at 2 wins have a theoretical shot if they win 2 games in SPL and all contenders above lose <.<.
Did you confirm whether or not it's overall ranking or just round 2? Or is this all just under the assumption it's round 2 only?
But under the assumption that it's overall:
Cure (10-5) Dark (10-5, only if he loses now) Losira (9-4) INnoVation (8-3) sOs (8-8) soO (7-4) Bbyong (7-6)
On April 11 2015 21:26 Elentos wrote: Obviously fighting for the SPL seeds:
Rogue (4-0) soO (4-2) sOs (4-3) Losira (4-3) Flash (3-1) Cure (3-1)
sKyHigh is 3-1 but doesn't play this week. Some players at 2 wins have a theoretical shot if they win 2 games in SPL and all contenders above lose <.<.
Losira plz
No one understands how PL grading works. For some reason Life is MVP over a bunch of guys with better records?
dirty KT money
explains Roro over Soulkey in 2013, who the fuck even comes to that conclusion?
I thought it was obvious that Kespa Chairmen were in fact the Injustice League?
On April 11 2015 21:26 Elentos wrote: Obviously fighting for the SPL seeds:
Rogue (4-0) soO (4-2) sOs (4-3) Losira (4-3) Flash (3-1) Cure (3-1)
sKyHigh is 3-1 but doesn't play this week. Some players at 2 wins have a theoretical shot if they win 2 games in SPL and all contenders above lose <.<.
Losira plz
No one understands how PL grading works. For some reason Life is MVP over a bunch of guys with better records?
It happens constantly. Like Bbyong beating life and herO beating curious, but herO somehow getting the mvp.
On April 11 2015 21:26 Elentos wrote: Obviously fighting for the SPL seeds:
Rogue (4-0) soO (4-2) sOs (4-3) Losira (4-3) Flash (3-1) Cure (3-1)
sKyHigh is 3-1 but doesn't play this week. Some players at 2 wins have a theoretical shot if they win 2 games in SPL and all contenders above lose <.<.
Losira plz
No one understands how PL grading works. For some reason Life is MVP over a bunch of guys with better records?
It happens constantly. Like Bbyong beating life and herO beating curious, but herO somehow getting the mvp.
On April 11 2015 21:26 Elentos wrote: Obviously fighting for the SPL seeds:
Rogue (4-0) soO (4-2) sOs (4-3) Losira (4-3) Flash (3-1) Cure (3-1)
sKyHigh is 3-1 but doesn't play this week. Some players at 2 wins have a theoretical shot if they win 2 games in SPL and all contenders above lose <.<.
Losira plz
No one understands how PL grading works. For some reason Life is MVP over a bunch of guys with better records?
It happens constantly. Like Bbyong beating life and herO beating curious, but herO somehow getting the mvp.
did you see that fucking game?
I don't care. Life was easily startale's best and most dangerous player.
Innovations won't be at Kespa Cup he isn't playing this week in proleague. So the players invited should be Cure/Dark since Trap is gonna 2-1 Dark :D!!!
On April 11 2015 21:36 SNSeigifried wrote: Innovations won't be at Kespa Cup he isn't playing this week in proleague. So the players invited should be Cure/Dark since Trap is gonna 2-1 Dark :D!!!
Can't believe SKT didn't play him. Even in his current form he's still probably stronger than Dream and Classic overall.
On April 11 2015 21:36 SNSeigifried wrote: Innovations won't be at Kespa Cup he isn't playing this week in proleague. So the players invited should be Cure/Dark since Trap is gonna 2-1 Dark :D!!!
On April 11 2015 21:36 SNSeigifried wrote: Innovations won't be at Kespa Cup he isn't playing this week in proleague. So the players invited should be Cure/Dark since Trap is gonna 2-1 Dark :D!!!
Can't believe SKT didn't play him. Even in his current form he's still probably stronger than Dream and Classic overall.
Dream is arguable. I'm pretty sure dream has better TvZ overall.
On April 11 2015 21:36 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: ANOTHER ZERG! ^^
On April 11 2015 21:36 SNSeigifried wrote: Innovations won't be at Kespa Cup he isn't playing this week in proleague. So the players invited should be Cure/Dark since Trap is gonna 2-1 Dark :D!!!
Can't believe SKT didn't play him. Even in his current form he's still probably stronger than Dream and Classic overall.
Dream is arguable. I'm pretty sure dream has better TvZ overall.
On April 11 2015 21:58 Ramiz1989 wrote: Soulkey, Dark and Byul, good day to be a Zerg player.
Too bad for SoO, but oh well...
If they're using Round 2 stats for Proleague and not stats for both rounds, soO will play at KeSPA Cup anyway.
They showed a graphic during the stream that said Round 1, 2; so we're currently working under the assumption it's both rounds combined and that they'll invite Cure and probably Losira. Although I'd prefer if it was round 2 only :S
On April 11 2015 21:58 Ramiz1989 wrote: Soulkey, Dark and Byul, good day to be a Zerg player.
Too bad for SoO, but oh well...
If they're using Round 2 stats for Proleague and not stats for both rounds, soO will play at KeSPA Cup anyway.
They showed a graphic during the stream that said Round 1, 2; so we're currently working under the assumption it's both rounds combined and that they'll invite Cure and probably Losira. Although I'd prefer if it was round 2 only :S
Ah, okay. Rogue/Cure will go then, why not. At least, something for Cure this season.
On April 11 2015 21:58 Ramiz1989 wrote: Soulkey, Dark and Byul, good day to be a Zerg player.
Too bad for SoO, but oh well...
If they're using Round 2 stats for Proleague and not stats for both rounds, soO will play at KeSPA Cup anyway.
They showed a graphic during the stream that said Round 1, 2; so we're currently working under the assumption it's both rounds combined and that they'll invite Cure and probably Losira. Although I'd prefer if it was round 2 only :S
Case in point: if round 1 counts aswell Flash has no chance, if it's only round 2 he has a pretty decent chance depending on what the other "top players" do next week (Flash wins, KT 3-0s MVP, sOs and soO lose --> Flash in top 2; Flash wins 2 games on Tuesday might be another way aswell). But currently it seems round 1 counts. RIP Flash fans.
But to be frank, we shouldn't beat ourselves up over this. Flash had a ludicrously difficult bracket. To qualify, he would have had to beat, in order, Hurricane, Cure, Dark, Classic and Trap. Getting out of that bracket was extremely difficult and he didn't get completely rekt. So there's always next time.
On April 12 2015 00:31 Alucen-Will- wrote: Just looking at statistics, surely they will invite Rogue + Cure who both have the highest # of wins outside of the already qualified players?
Yeah, most likely (unless one of them gets overtaken by Losira). Unless they decide to only count round 2 as a loophole to get Flash in if his wins would allow it.
On April 12 2015 00:31 Alucen-Will- wrote: Just looking at statistics, surely they will invite Rogue + Cure who both have the highest # of wins outside of the already qualified players?
On April 12 2015 00:31 Alucen-Will- wrote: Just looking at statistics, surely they will invite Rogue + Cure who both have the highest # of wins outside of the already qualified players?
On April 12 2015 00:31 Alucen-Will- wrote: Just looking at statistics, surely they will invite Rogue + Cure who both have the highest # of wins outside of the already qualified players?
On April 12 2015 00:37 Shellshock wrote: I guess the korean qualifier really helped out the race distribution
Well, if the SPL seeds end up being Rogue and Losira, it's 7 Protoss, 6 Zergs and 3 Terrans. I don't think I can agree with your statement . They should make those pity seeds to balance the race ratio and give them to 2 Terrans on purpose <.<.
On April 12 2015 00:37 Shellshock wrote: I guess the korean qualifier really helped out the race distribution
Well, if the SPL seeds end up being Rogue and Losira, it's 7 Protoss, 6 Zergs and 3 Terrans. I don't think I can agree with your statement . They should make those pity seeds to balance the race ratio and give them to 2 Terrans on purpose <.<.
I dont see rogue losing against hush. So the only way for Cure to qualify is by the defiting Bbyong. Innovation not being field was a blow for him.
On April 12 2015 00:37 Shellshock wrote: I guess the korean qualifier really helped out the race distribution
Well, if the SPL seeds end up being Rogue and Losira, it's 7 Protoss, 6 Zergs and 3 Terrans. I don't think I can agree with your statement . They should make those pity seeds to balance the race ratio and give them to 2 Terrans on purpose <.<.
I dont see rogue losing against hush. So the only way for Cure to qualify is by the defiting Bbyong. Innovation not being field was a blow for him.
While I think Rogue is not likely to lose, I would also not rule it out completely. herO and ByuL probably have some good tips on how to defeat a Zerg like Rogue.
And Innovation keeps on losing. But he won't retired. There are still so many Terrans worse than him that are still active. I can't see him retiring any time soon. Although since he has a shaky mindset that basically quits when he's on tilt, he may very well retire as soon as 3 months later.
On April 12 2015 08:25 Shellshock wrote: just realized Bomber lost 0-2 to Zoun. He's not playing in Proleague and he's not looking good elsewhere. What is he doing???
On April 12 2015 08:25 Shellshock wrote: just realized Bomber lost 0-2 to Zoun. He's not playing in Proleague and he's not looking good elsewhere. What is he doing???
Reverse-sweeping his way into Code S.
he should have never been in that position to begin with
On April 12 2015 08:25 Shellshock wrote: just realized Bomber lost 0-2 to Zoun. He's not playing in Proleague and he's not looking good elsewhere. What is he doing???
On April 12 2015 08:25 Shellshock wrote: just realized Bomber lost 0-2 to Zoun. He's not playing in Proleague and he's not looking good elsewhere. What is he doing???
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