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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
March 18 2015 13:12 GMT
#1001
On March 18 2015 21:33 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 21:24 Big J wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:18 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:57 REyeM wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:56 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:54 REyeM wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:53 Sakat wrote:
As of today, Life has more top 2 finishes in premier tournaments then Mvp.

It's just that Mvp has 4 GSLs


Well if Life wins this will be his third, right?

Nah, his second, the other one was a kespa/hot6-cup.


Well one of Mvps' was world championship so

Yes, but a GSL World Championship. Mvp's and Zests GSL WC count on the LP Page and afaik they got stuff from GSL as well (Mvp could have had a G5L trophy, so it seems to count). Kespa/hot6 are high level korean tournaments, but no "official" GSL's. Just like SSL/OSL.


2012 GSL Blizzard Cup


Did MMA ever get a 2nd badge though?

Are you sure? If that is true, someone should probably update the LP page(here), because that is only listing MC and Zest as double GSL champions. If we consider Life/MMA as double GSL champions as well, that might change something on various GOAT-lists.
KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
March 18 2015 13:12 GMT
#1002
Lifuuuuuuu!
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 18 2015 13:17 GMT
#1003
I actually don't like that Gomtv apparently counts these tournaments as GSL wins -.-
But i guess it's official^^
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 18 2015 13:20 GMT
#1004
On March 18 2015 22:12 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 21:33 Inflicted wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:24 Big J wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:18 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:57 REyeM wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:56 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:54 REyeM wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:53 Sakat wrote:
As of today, Life has more top 2 finishes in premier tournaments then Mvp.

It's just that Mvp has 4 GSLs


Well if Life wins this will be his third, right?

Nah, his second, the other one was a kespa/hot6-cup.


Well one of Mvps' was world championship so

Yes, but a GSL World Championship. Mvp's and Zests GSL WC count on the LP Page and afaik they got stuff from GSL as well (Mvp could have had a G5L trophy, so it seems to count). Kespa/hot6 are high level korean tournaments, but no "official" GSL's. Just like SSL/OSL.


2012 GSL Blizzard Cup


Did MMA ever get a 2nd badge though?

Are you sure? If that is true, someone should probably update the LP page(here), because that is only listing MC and Zest as double GSL champions. If we consider Life/MMA as double GSL champions as well, that might change something on various GOAT-lists.

Yeah what the heck? If Zest's "GSL" Global Championship counts then MMA and Life should be up there as well for winning the GSL Blizzard Cup. Makes no sense for one to count and not the other.

Anyway, in the whirlwind of disappointing Starcraft results that have been the past few days, this is my beacon of hope. Yay Life!
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 18 2015 13:24 GMT
#1005
On March 18 2015 22:20 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 22:12 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:33 Inflicted wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:24 Big J wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:18 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:57 REyeM wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:56 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:54 REyeM wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:53 Sakat wrote:
As of today, Life has more top 2 finishes in premier tournaments then Mvp.

It's just that Mvp has 4 GSLs


Well if Life wins this will be his third, right?

Nah, his second, the other one was a kespa/hot6-cup.


Well one of Mvps' was world championship so

Yes, but a GSL World Championship. Mvp's and Zests GSL WC count on the LP Page and afaik they got stuff from GSL as well (Mvp could have had a G5L trophy, so it seems to count). Kespa/hot6 are high level korean tournaments, but no "official" GSL's. Just like SSL/OSL.


2012 GSL Blizzard Cup


Did MMA ever get a 2nd badge though?

Are you sure? If that is true, someone should probably update the LP page(here), because that is only listing MC and Zest as double GSL champions. If we consider Life/MMA as double GSL champions as well, that might change something on various GOAT-lists.

Yeah what the heck? If Zest's "GSL" Global Championship counts then MMA and Life should be up there as well for winning the GSL Blizzard Cup. Makes no sense for one to count and not the other.

Anyway, in the whirlwind of disappointing Starcraft results that have been the past few days, this is my beacon of hope. Yay Life!

Imo none of these should count, they are totally different tournaments.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 18 2015 13:26 GMT
#1006
On March 18 2015 22:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 22:20 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:12 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:33 Inflicted wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:24 Big J wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:18 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:57 REyeM wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:56 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:54 REyeM wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:53 Sakat wrote:
As of today, Life has more top 2 finishes in premier tournaments then Mvp.

It's just that Mvp has 4 GSLs


Well if Life wins this will be his third, right?

Nah, his second, the other one was a kespa/hot6-cup.


Well one of Mvps' was world championship so

Yes, but a GSL World Championship. Mvp's and Zests GSL WC count on the LP Page and afaik they got stuff from GSL as well (Mvp could have had a G5L trophy, so it seems to count). Kespa/hot6 are high level korean tournaments, but no "official" GSL's. Just like SSL/OSL.


2012 GSL Blizzard Cup


Did MMA ever get a 2nd badge though?

Are you sure? If that is true, someone should probably update the LP page(here), because that is only listing MC and Zest as double GSL champions. If we consider Life/MMA as double GSL champions as well, that might change something on various GOAT-lists.

Yeah what the heck? If Zest's "GSL" Global Championship counts then MMA and Life should be up there as well for winning the GSL Blizzard Cup. Makes no sense for one to count and not the other.

Anyway, in the whirlwind of disappointing Starcraft results that have been the past few days, this is my beacon of hope. Yay Life!

Imo none of these should count, they are totally different tournaments.

but they needed a reason to give Mvp G5L (which was denied by the real god)
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 18 2015 13:27 GMT
#1007
On March 18 2015 22:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 22:20 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:12 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:33 Inflicted wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:24 Big J wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:18 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:57 REyeM wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:56 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:54 REyeM wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:53 Sakat wrote:
As of today, Life has more top 2 finishes in premier tournaments then Mvp.

It's just that Mvp has 4 GSLs


Well if Life wins this will be his third, right?

Nah, his second, the other one was a kespa/hot6-cup.


Well one of Mvps' was world championship so

Yes, but a GSL World Championship. Mvp's and Zests GSL WC count on the LP Page and afaik they got stuff from GSL as well (Mvp could have had a G5L trophy, so it seems to count). Kespa/hot6 are high level korean tournaments, but no "official" GSL's. Just like SSL/OSL.


2012 GSL Blizzard Cup


Did MMA ever get a 2nd badge though?

Are you sure? If that is true, someone should probably update the LP page(here), because that is only listing MC and Zest as double GSL champions. If we consider Life/MMA as double GSL champions as well, that might change something on various GOAT-lists.

Yeah what the heck? If Zest's "GSL" Global Championship counts then MMA and Life should be up there as well for winning the GSL Blizzard Cup. Makes no sense for one to count and not the other.

Anyway, in the whirlwind of disappointing Starcraft results that have been the past few days, this is my beacon of hope. Yay Life!

Imo none of these should count, they are totally different tournaments.

I agree. I think GSL should refer only to the League. It's format makes it unique and that is why it is given more weight than weekend events.

However I think we should at least be consistent if we're going to do it this way :D
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
March 18 2015 13:35 GMT
#1008
On March 18 2015 22:27 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 22:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:20 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:12 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:33 Inflicted wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:24 Big J wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:18 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:57 REyeM wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:56 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:54 REyeM wrote:
[quote]

Well if Life wins this will be his third, right?

Nah, his second, the other one was a kespa/hot6-cup.


Well one of Mvps' was world championship so

Yes, but a GSL World Championship. Mvp's and Zests GSL WC count on the LP Page and afaik they got stuff from GSL as well (Mvp could have had a G5L trophy, so it seems to count). Kespa/hot6 are high level korean tournaments, but no "official" GSL's. Just like SSL/OSL.


2012 GSL Blizzard Cup


Did MMA ever get a 2nd badge though?

Are you sure? If that is true, someone should probably update the LP page(here), because that is only listing MC and Zest as double GSL champions. If we consider Life/MMA as double GSL champions as well, that might change something on various GOAT-lists.

Yeah what the heck? If Zest's "GSL" Global Championship counts then MMA and Life should be up there as well for winning the GSL Blizzard Cup. Makes no sense for one to count and not the other.

Anyway, in the whirlwind of disappointing Starcraft results that have been the past few days, this is my beacon of hope. Yay Life!

Imo none of these should count, they are totally different tournaments.

I agree. I think GSL should refer only to the League. It's format makes it unique and that is why it is given more weight than weekend events.

However I think we should at least be consistent if we're going to do it this way :D


Okay, so:

Mvp - 3
NesTea - 3
MC - 2
Life and everyone else - 1
(now has chance to have 2)

Things that don't count are:
Blizzard/Hot6ix cup events at the end of the year
Super tourney/global tourney and gsl world championship

Correct?
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 18 2015 13:37 GMT
#1009
On March 18 2015 22:35 REyeM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 22:27 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:20 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:12 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:33 Inflicted wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:24 Big J wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:18 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:57 REyeM wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:56 Xoronius wrote:
[quote]
Nah, his second, the other one was a kespa/hot6-cup.


Well one of Mvps' was world championship so

Yes, but a GSL World Championship. Mvp's and Zests GSL WC count on the LP Page and afaik they got stuff from GSL as well (Mvp could have had a G5L trophy, so it seems to count). Kespa/hot6 are high level korean tournaments, but no "official" GSL's. Just like SSL/OSL.


2012 GSL Blizzard Cup


Did MMA ever get a 2nd badge though?

Are you sure? If that is true, someone should probably update the LP page(here), because that is only listing MC and Zest as double GSL champions. If we consider Life/MMA as double GSL champions as well, that might change something on various GOAT-lists.

Yeah what the heck? If Zest's "GSL" Global Championship counts then MMA and Life should be up there as well for winning the GSL Blizzard Cup. Makes no sense for one to count and not the other.

Anyway, in the whirlwind of disappointing Starcraft results that have been the past few days, this is my beacon of hope. Yay Life!

Imo none of these should count, they are totally different tournaments.

I agree. I think GSL should refer only to the League. It's format makes it unique and that is why it is given more weight than weekend events.

However I think we should at least be consistent if we're going to do it this way :D


Okay, so:

Mvp - 3
NesTea - 3
MC - 2
Life and everyone else - 1
(now has chance to have 2)

Things that don't count are:
Blizzard/Hot6ix cup events at the end of the year
Super tourney/global tourney and gsl world championship

Correct?

I suppose. Although it is worth mentioning that I am now sad that Mvp doesn't have four.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-18 13:48:17
March 18 2015 13:46 GMT
#1010
On March 18 2015 22:27 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 22:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:20 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:12 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:33 Inflicted wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:24 Big J wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:18 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:57 REyeM wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:56 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:54 REyeM wrote:
[quote]

Well if Life wins this will be his third, right?

Nah, his second, the other one was a kespa/hot6-cup.


Well one of Mvps' was world championship so

Yes, but a GSL World Championship. Mvp's and Zests GSL WC count on the LP Page and afaik they got stuff from GSL as well (Mvp could have had a G5L trophy, so it seems to count). Kespa/hot6 are high level korean tournaments, but no "official" GSL's. Just like SSL/OSL.


2012 GSL Blizzard Cup


Did MMA ever get a 2nd badge though?

Are you sure? If that is true, someone should probably update the LP page(here), because that is only listing MC and Zest as double GSL champions. If we consider Life/MMA as double GSL champions as well, that might change something on various GOAT-lists.

Yeah what the heck? If Zest's "GSL" Global Championship counts then MMA and Life should be up there as well for winning the GSL Blizzard Cup. Makes no sense for one to count and not the other.

Anyway, in the whirlwind of disappointing Starcraft results that have been the past few days, this is my beacon of hope. Yay Life!

Imo none of these should count, they are totally different tournaments.

I agree. I think GSL should refer only to the League. It's format makes it unique and that is why it is given more weight than weekend events.

However I think we should at least be consistent if we're going to do it this way :D

Yeah i agree, it makes no sense otherwise.

On March 18 2015 22:35 REyeM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 22:27 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:20 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:12 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:33 Inflicted wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:24 Big J wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:18 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:57 REyeM wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:56 Xoronius wrote:
[quote]
Nah, his second, the other one was a kespa/hot6-cup.


Well one of Mvps' was world championship so

Yes, but a GSL World Championship. Mvp's and Zests GSL WC count on the LP Page and afaik they got stuff from GSL as well (Mvp could have had a G5L trophy, so it seems to count). Kespa/hot6 are high level korean tournaments, but no "official" GSL's. Just like SSL/OSL.


2012 GSL Blizzard Cup


Did MMA ever get a 2nd badge though?

Are you sure? If that is true, someone should probably update the LP page(here), because that is only listing MC and Zest as double GSL champions. If we consider Life/MMA as double GSL champions as well, that might change something on various GOAT-lists.

Yeah what the heck? If Zest's "GSL" Global Championship counts then MMA and Life should be up there as well for winning the GSL Blizzard Cup. Makes no sense for one to count and not the other.

Anyway, in the whirlwind of disappointing Starcraft results that have been the past few days, this is my beacon of hope. Yay Life!

Imo none of these should count, they are totally different tournaments.

I agree. I think GSL should refer only to the League. It's format makes it unique and that is why it is given more weight than weekend events.

However I think we should at least be consistent if we're going to do it this way :D


Okay, so:

Mvp - 3
NesTea - 3
MC - 2
Life and everyone else - 1
(now has chance to have 2)

Things that don't count are:
Blizzard/Hot6ix cup events at the end of the year
Super tourney/global tourney and gsl world championship

Correct?

That's how i looked at it all the time tbh.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
dazed25
Profile Joined August 2014
3566 Posts
March 18 2015 13:48 GMT
#1011
On March 18 2015 21:12 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 20:54 dazed25 wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:50 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:47 REyeM wrote:
Top 5 players atm imo:

1.) Life
2.) Dark
3.) herO
4.) INnoVation
5.) Maru


Why do people overrate Dark so much? Almost all of his success is against Terran. I would rate Rogue ahead of him by results


Yeah I think Dark will get exposed if he goes against some top tier Protoss or even certian Zergs. Still his ZvT is godlike and it's carrying him. Until he even gets to the RO4 of a premier he shouldn't be anywhere near top 5 lists. Maru and Inno are definitely higher than herO as well.

Dark made it to Ro4 for IEM Katowice.


I was thinking Korean tournaments but point taken. Look at what happened in the tournament though. He looked unbeatable in the ZvT's leading up to the quarter finals where he died to Trap. I'm not saying the talent isn't there but the hype train is too much for someone who doesn't have the results to show for it.
Zest, Rain, Life, Stats, Flash, PartinG, herO
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28483 Posts
March 18 2015 13:50 GMT
#1012
On March 18 2015 22:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 22:27 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:20 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:12 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:33 Inflicted wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:24 Big J wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:18 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:57 REyeM wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:56 Xoronius wrote:
[quote]
Nah, his second, the other one was a kespa/hot6-cup.


Well one of Mvps' was world championship so

Yes, but a GSL World Championship. Mvp's and Zests GSL WC count on the LP Page and afaik they got stuff from GSL as well (Mvp could have had a G5L trophy, so it seems to count). Kespa/hot6 are high level korean tournaments, but no "official" GSL's. Just like SSL/OSL.


2012 GSL Blizzard Cup


Did MMA ever get a 2nd badge though?

Are you sure? If that is true, someone should probably update the LP page(here), because that is only listing MC and Zest as double GSL champions. If we consider Life/MMA as double GSL champions as well, that might change something on various GOAT-lists.

Yeah what the heck? If Zest's "GSL" Global Championship counts then MMA and Life should be up there as well for winning the GSL Blizzard Cup. Makes no sense for one to count and not the other.

Anyway, in the whirlwind of disappointing Starcraft results that have been the past few days, this is my beacon of hope. Yay Life!

Imo none of these should count, they are totally different tournaments.

I agree. I think GSL should refer only to the League. It's format makes it unique and that is why it is given more weight than weekend events.

However I think we should at least be consistent if we're going to do it this way :D

Yeah i agree, it makes no sense otherwise.

Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 22:35 REyeM wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:27 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:20 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:12 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:33 Inflicted wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:24 Big J wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:18 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:57 REyeM wrote:
[quote]

Well one of Mvps' was world championship so

Yes, but a GSL World Championship. Mvp's and Zests GSL WC count on the LP Page and afaik they got stuff from GSL as well (Mvp could have had a G5L trophy, so it seems to count). Kespa/hot6 are high level korean tournaments, but no "official" GSL's. Just like SSL/OSL.


2012 GSL Blizzard Cup


Did MMA ever get a 2nd badge though?

Are you sure? If that is true, someone should probably update the LP page(here), because that is only listing MC and Zest as double GSL champions. If we consider Life/MMA as double GSL champions as well, that might change something on various GOAT-lists.

Yeah what the heck? If Zest's "GSL" Global Championship counts then MMA and Life should be up there as well for winning the GSL Blizzard Cup. Makes no sense for one to count and not the other.

Anyway, in the whirlwind of disappointing Starcraft results that have been the past few days, this is my beacon of hope. Yay Life!

Imo none of these should count, they are totally different tournaments.

I agree. I think GSL should refer only to the League. It's format makes it unique and that is why it is given more weight than weekend events.

However I think we should at least be consistent if we're going to do it this way :D


Okay, so:

Mvp - 3
NesTea - 3
MC - 2
Life and everyone else - 1
(now has chance to have 2)

Things that don't count are:
Blizzard/Hot6ix cup events at the end of the year
Super tourney/global tourney and gsl world championship

Correct?

That's how i looked at it all the time tbh.

So no GSL badge for Polt then
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 18 2015 13:55 GMT
#1013
On March 18 2015 22:35 REyeM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 22:27 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:20 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:12 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:33 Inflicted wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:24 Big J wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:18 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:57 REyeM wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:56 Xoronius wrote:
[quote]
Nah, his second, the other one was a kespa/hot6-cup.


Well one of Mvps' was world championship so

Yes, but a GSL World Championship. Mvp's and Zests GSL WC count on the LP Page and afaik they got stuff from GSL as well (Mvp could have had a G5L trophy, so it seems to count). Kespa/hot6 are high level korean tournaments, but no "official" GSL's. Just like SSL/OSL.


2012 GSL Blizzard Cup


Did MMA ever get a 2nd badge though?

Are you sure? If that is true, someone should probably update the LP page(here), because that is only listing MC and Zest as double GSL champions. If we consider Life/MMA as double GSL champions as well, that might change something on various GOAT-lists.

Yeah what the heck? If Zest's "GSL" Global Championship counts then MMA and Life should be up there as well for winning the GSL Blizzard Cup. Makes no sense for one to count and not the other.

Anyway, in the whirlwind of disappointing Starcraft results that have been the past few days, this is my beacon of hope. Yay Life!

Imo none of these should count, they are totally different tournaments.

I agree. I think GSL should refer only to the League. It's format makes it unique and that is why it is given more weight than weekend events.

However I think we should at least be consistent if we're going to do it this way :D


Okay, so:

Mvp - 3
NesTea - 3
MC - 2
Life and everyone else - 1
(now has chance to have 2)

Things that don't count are:
Blizzard/Hot6ix cup events at the end of the year
Super tourney/global tourney and gsl world championship

Correct?


Imo the Supertournament should count. It was a huge tournament, not one of the "win 3rounds and you are a finalist" things. It started with the Ro64 and the qualification to enter it was to be Code A/S. So for all purposes of difficulty it was compareable to Code S.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 18 2015 14:02 GMT
#1014
On March 18 2015 22:55 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 22:35 REyeM wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:27 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:20 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 18 2015 22:12 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:33 Inflicted wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:24 Big J wrote:
On March 18 2015 21:18 Xoronius wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:57 REyeM wrote:
[quote]

Well one of Mvps' was world championship so

Yes, but a GSL World Championship. Mvp's and Zests GSL WC count on the LP Page and afaik they got stuff from GSL as well (Mvp could have had a G5L trophy, so it seems to count). Kespa/hot6 are high level korean tournaments, but no "official" GSL's. Just like SSL/OSL.


2012 GSL Blizzard Cup


Did MMA ever get a 2nd badge though?

Are you sure? If that is true, someone should probably update the LP page(here), because that is only listing MC and Zest as double GSL champions. If we consider Life/MMA as double GSL champions as well, that might change something on various GOAT-lists.

Yeah what the heck? If Zest's "GSL" Global Championship counts then MMA and Life should be up there as well for winning the GSL Blizzard Cup. Makes no sense for one to count and not the other.

Anyway, in the whirlwind of disappointing Starcraft results that have been the past few days, this is my beacon of hope. Yay Life!

Imo none of these should count, they are totally different tournaments.

I agree. I think GSL should refer only to the League. It's format makes it unique and that is why it is given more weight than weekend events.

However I think we should at least be consistent if we're going to do it this way :D


Okay, so:

Mvp - 3
NesTea - 3
MC - 2
Life and everyone else - 1
(now has chance to have 2)

Things that don't count are:
Blizzard/Hot6ix cup events at the end of the year
Super tourney/global tourney and gsl world championship

Correct?


Imo the Supertournament should count. It was a huge tournament, not one of the "win 3rounds and you are a finalist" things. It started with the Ro64 and the qualification to enter it was to be Code A/S. So for all purposes of difficulty it was compareable to Code S.

Hm yeah you definitely can argue it should count.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28483 Posts
March 18 2015 14:13 GMT
#1015
Phew, Polt has a badge
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-18 14:14:38
March 18 2015 14:14 GMT
#1016
Just made a completely arbitrary point system to rate Premier Tournament achievements and then went through it for Life and Mvp. Life is at 5.95 with 0.75 or 1 more (=6.7 to 6.95 points) depending how this GSL finals goes. Mvp is at 7.7, hence still the greatest by like 1 more GSL finals. Unless of course there is someone greater, e.g. Taeja (dat Liquid-biased point system ) or MMA.
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
March 18 2015 14:18 GMT
#1017
On March 18 2015 23:14 Big J wrote:
Just made a completely arbitrary point system to rate Premier Tournament achievements and then went through it for Life and Mvp. Life is at 5.95 with 0.75 or 1 more (=6.7 to 6.95 points) depending how this GSL finals goes. Mvp is at 7.7, hence still the greatest by like 1 more GSL finals. Unless of course there is someone greater, e.g. Taeja (dat Liquid-biased point system ) or MMA.


I used to do that aswell, and then make a ranking of players for a single year. Top 10 11/12/13. But I didn't ranked them all the same. It wen't something like:

T1 - GSL
T2 - everything with over 75k prize pool
T3 - everythinh with 25k-75k prize pool

And I also managed to squeeze proleague and gstl in there. ^_^
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 18 2015 14:23 GMT
#1018
On March 18 2015 23:18 REyeM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 23:14 Big J wrote:
Just made a completely arbitrary point system to rate Premier Tournament achievements and then went through it for Life and Mvp. Life is at 5.95 with 0.75 or 1 more (=6.7 to 6.95 points) depending how this GSL finals goes. Mvp is at 7.7, hence still the greatest by like 1 more GSL finals. Unless of course there is someone greater, e.g. Taeja (dat Liquid-biased point system ) or MMA.


I used to do that aswell, and then make a ranking of players for a single year. Top 10 11/12/13. But I didn't ranked them all the same. It wen't something like:

T1 - GSL
T2 - everything with over 75k prize pool
T3 - everythinh with 25k-75k prize pool

And I also managed to squeeze proleague and gstl in there. ^_^

Copy-Paste my txt-file:

+ Show Spoiler +
GSL 2012/13, OSL, WCS Korea 2013/14/15, NSSL:
Winner: 1
Runner Up: 0.75
Semis: 0.5

GSL 2010/2011, Supertournament, WCS Finals:
Winner: 0.75
Runner Up: 0.55
Semis: 0.35

Hot6, Blizzard Cup, World Championship 2011, IEM WC, Season Finals, WCS EU/AM/Global, Blizzcon:
Winner: 0.5
Runner Up: 0.35
Semis: 0.25

Dreamhack, MLG, IEM
Winner: 0.35
Runner Up: 0.25
Semis: 0.15

Other Premier Tournaments:
Winner: 0.2
Runner Up: 0.1


Life: 5.95 (+0.75/1)
Mvp: 7.7
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-18 14:33:34
March 18 2015 14:25 GMT
#1019
On March 18 2015 23:23 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 23:18 REyeM wrote:
On March 18 2015 23:14 Big J wrote:
Just made a completely arbitrary point system to rate Premier Tournament achievements and then went through it for Life and Mvp. Life is at 5.95 with 0.75 or 1 more (=6.7 to 6.95 points) depending how this GSL finals goes. Mvp is at 7.7, hence still the greatest by like 1 more GSL finals. Unless of course there is someone greater, e.g. Taeja (dat Liquid-biased point system ) or MMA.


I used to do that aswell, and then make a ranking of players for a single year. Top 10 11/12/13. But I didn't ranked them all the same. It wen't something like:

T1 - GSL
T2 - everything with over 75k prize pool
T3 - everythinh with 25k-75k prize pool

And I also managed to squeeze proleague and gstl in there. ^_^

Copy-Paste my txt-file:

+ Show Spoiler +
GSL 2012/13, OSL, WCS Korea 2013/14/15, NSSL:
Winner: 1
Runner Up: 0.75
Semis: 0.5

GSL 2010/2011, Supertournament, WCS Finals:
Winner: 0.75
Runner Up: 0.55
Semis: 0.35

Hot6, Blizzard Cup, World Championship 2011, IEM WC, Season Finals, WCS EU/AM/Global, Blizzcon:
Winner: 0.5
Runner Up: 0.35
Semis: 0.25

Dreamhack, MLG, IEM
Winner: 0.35
Runner Up: 0.25
Semis: 0.15

Other Premier Tournaments:
Winner: 0.2
Runner Up: 0.1


Life: 5.95 (+0.75/1)
Mvp: 7.7


Yeah, pretty much something like that.

So with this gsl Life beats TaeJa. Final rankings 1.) Mvp 7.7 2.) Life (6.7-~7) 3.) TaeJa ~6.3
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 18 2015 14:49 GMT
#1020
On March 18 2015 23:25 REyeM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 23:23 Big J wrote:
On March 18 2015 23:18 REyeM wrote:
On March 18 2015 23:14 Big J wrote:
Just made a completely arbitrary point system to rate Premier Tournament achievements and then went through it for Life and Mvp. Life is at 5.95 with 0.75 or 1 more (=6.7 to 6.95 points) depending how this GSL finals goes. Mvp is at 7.7, hence still the greatest by like 1 more GSL finals. Unless of course there is someone greater, e.g. Taeja (dat Liquid-biased point system ) or MMA.


I used to do that aswell, and then make a ranking of players for a single year. Top 10 11/12/13. But I didn't ranked them all the same. It wen't something like:

T1 - GSL
T2 - everything with over 75k prize pool
T3 - everythinh with 25k-75k prize pool

And I also managed to squeeze proleague and gstl in there. ^_^

Copy-Paste my txt-file:

+ Show Spoiler +
GSL 2012/13, OSL, WCS Korea 2013/14/15, NSSL:
Winner: 1
Runner Up: 0.75
Semis: 0.5

GSL 2010/2011, Supertournament, WCS Finals:
Winner: 0.75
Runner Up: 0.55
Semis: 0.35

Hot6, Blizzard Cup, World Championship 2011, IEM WC, Season Finals, WCS EU/AM/Global, Blizzcon:
Winner: 0.5
Runner Up: 0.35
Semis: 0.25

Dreamhack, MLG, IEM
Winner: 0.35
Runner Up: 0.25
Semis: 0.15

Other Premier Tournaments:
Winner: 0.2
Runner Up: 0.1


Life: 5.95 (+0.75/1)
Mvp: 7.7


Yeah, pretty much something like that.

So with this gsl Life beats TaeJa. Final rankings 1.) Mvp 7.7 2.) Life (6.7-~7) 3.) TaeJa ~6.3

MC is at 6.35.

Hm, maybe I will refine this algorithm and make a blog with a longer list...
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