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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 18 2015 11:52 GMT
#961
i'm sad that herO lost but i prefer a Parting v Life than Parting v herO. So it's ok.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
LordYama
Profile Joined August 2010
United States370 Posts
March 18 2015 11:52 GMT
#962
For those asking why hero attacked, wasn't he under a bit of a timer since Life's burrow roach timing looked strong, like maybe he could break the third and prevent protoss ever getting colo/storm?
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
March 18 2015 11:53 GMT
#963
As of today, Life has more top 2 finishes in premier tournaments then Mvp.

It's just that Mvp has 4 GSLs
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
March 18 2015 11:54 GMT
#964
On March 18 2015 20:53 Sakat wrote:
As of today, Life has more top 2 finishes in premier tournaments then Mvp.

It's just that Mvp has 4 GSLs


Well if Life wins this will be his third, right?
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
dazed25
Profile Joined August 2014
3566 Posts
March 18 2015 11:54 GMT
#965
On March 18 2015 20:50 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 20:47 REyeM wrote:
Top 5 players atm imo:

1.) Life
2.) Dark
3.) herO
4.) INnoVation
5.) Maru


Why do people overrate Dark so much? Almost all of his success is against Terran. I would rate Rogue ahead of him by results


Yeah I think Dark will get exposed if he goes against some top tier Protoss or even certian Zergs. Still his ZvT is godlike and it's carrying him. Until he even gets to the RO4 of a premier he shouldn't be anywhere near top 5 lists. Maru and Inno are definitely higher than herO as well.
Zest, Rain, Life, Stats, Flash, PartinG, herO
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
March 18 2015 11:55 GMT
#966
On March 18 2015 20:54 REyeM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 20:53 Sakat wrote:
As of today, Life has more top 2 finishes in premier tournaments then Mvp.

It's just that Mvp has 4 GSLs


Well if Life wins this will be his third, right?


I think so, yeah.
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1199 Posts
March 18 2015 11:55 GMT
#967
one question: during the attack in Game7 did her0's MsC have enough energy for recall?
sOs TY PartinG
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12476 Posts
March 18 2015 11:55 GMT
#968
I don't see how hero can win that game, yes sure hero is up in probe but that's a huge army he has no way to deal with, especially when he lost the three warp gates
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 18 2015 11:55 GMT
#969
On March 18 2015 20:52 LordYama wrote:
For those asking why hero attacked, wasn't he under a bit of a timer since Life's burrow roach timing looked strong, like maybe he could break the third and prevent protoss ever getting colo/storm?

no, not really
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
March 18 2015 11:56 GMT
#970
On March 18 2015 20:54 REyeM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 20:53 Sakat wrote:
As of today, Life has more top 2 finishes in premier tournaments then Mvp.

It's just that Mvp has 4 GSLs


Well if Life wins this will be his third, right?

Nah, his second, the other one was a kespa/hot6-cup.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
March 18 2015 11:57 GMT
#971
On March 18 2015 20:46 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 20:44 Deathstar wrote:
it should be herO up there T_T


You can't say that without acknowleding that Life "should" have won 4-1 or 4-2 given how they were both playing


herO's time will come.


congrats to life. He's still got it in him lol
rip passion
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 18 2015 11:57 GMT
#972
On March 18 2015 20:52 LordYama wrote:
For those asking why hero attacked, wasn't he under a bit of a timer since Life's burrow roach timing looked strong, like maybe he could break the third and prevent protoss ever getting colo/storm?


Nah. As long as herO doesn't get surrounded in the open, his composition crushes Life. If he just keeps posturing and make units, eventually Life will max out with a worse composition and crap economy. You just can't beat that army with pure roach/hydra due to forcefields.

So if herO just postures and maxes out Life has to start drone up/tech, at which point herO just will attack and things get ugly for Life.

Life didn't have the economy early enough to defeat herO unless he caught him out of position like this. A big mistake from herO imo. My guess is that he got baited when Life went to attack the oracle.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
March 18 2015 11:57 GMT
#973
On March 18 2015 20:54 dazed25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 20:50 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:47 REyeM wrote:
Top 5 players atm imo:

1.) Life
2.) Dark
3.) herO
4.) INnoVation
5.) Maru


Why do people overrate Dark so much? Almost all of his success is against Terran. I would rate Rogue ahead of him by results


Yeah I think Dark will get exposed if he goes against some top tier Protoss or even certian Zergs. Still his ZvT is godlike and it's carrying him. Until he even gets to the RO4 of a premier he shouldn't be anywhere near top 5 lists. Maru and Inno are definitely higher than herO as well.


Eh, herO deserves to be up there, he has shown consistency up there will Maru+InnoVation
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
March 18 2015 11:57 GMT
#974
On March 18 2015 20:56 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 20:54 REyeM wrote:
On March 18 2015 20:53 Sakat wrote:
As of today, Life has more top 2 finishes in premier tournaments then Mvp.

It's just that Mvp has 4 GSLs


Well if Life wins this will be his third, right?

Nah, his second, the other one was a kespa/hot6-cup.


Well one of Mvps' was world championship so
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
March 18 2015 11:57 GMT
#975
Oh, and judging by the last two years (Naniwa and JaeDong), he only needs 200 more points to qualify for Blizzcon.
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 18 2015 11:59 GMT
#976
YES LIFE!!! GJ
LordYama
Profile Joined August 2010
United States370 Posts
March 18 2015 12:01 GMT
#977
On March 18 2015 20:57 DJHelium wrote:
Nah. As long as herO doesn't get surrounded in the open, his composition crushes Life. If he just keeps posturing and make units, eventually Life will max out with a worse composition and crap economy. You just can't beat that army with pure roach/hydra due to forcefields.


Doesn't the burrow movement negate the advantage of forcefield?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 18 2015 12:01 GMT
#978
Happy that Life won, time to win gsl now
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
acccky
Profile Joined December 2013
Albania1 Post
March 18 2015 12:03 GMT
#979
i think hero tried to mindgame life, wished he played longer game likfe king sejong station.
In the interview life said he knew hero would all in. considering the game on catellena where life had a huge start and got rekt by all in he didnt see cuz he thought he was so far ahead he could just macro up. Pig says this on twitter.
The build life did was for early aggression which pretty much got shut down and hero was ahead. hero tried to to all in, sought of like catellena and life was so prepared for it. The forcefield play worked on catellena and hero relied on it too much i think. Tried to distract zerg army to third base with oracle to ff ramp but lost oracle and game. His biggest strength is late game pvz but he tried to game life and didnt pay off cuz life also very good.
I dont think parting is better then hero pvz and i think life will wipe the floor with parting imo.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 18 2015 12:06 GMT
#980
On March 18 2015 20:57 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 20:52 LordYama wrote:
For those asking why hero attacked, wasn't he under a bit of a timer since Life's burrow roach timing looked strong, like maybe he could break the third and prevent protoss ever getting colo/storm?


Nah. As long as herO doesn't get surrounded in the open, his composition crushes Life. If he just keeps posturing and make units, eventually Life will max out with a worse composition and crap economy. You just can't beat that army with pure roach/hydra due to forcefields.

So if herO just postures and maxes out Life has to start drone up/tech, at which point herO just will attack and things get ugly for Life.

Life didn't have the economy early enough to defeat herO unless he caught him out of position like this. A big mistake from herO imo. My guess is that he got baited when Life went to attack the oracle.

herO had only 45workery though and wasnt producing anymore. I think hr had planned to commit anyways, that oracle snipe was just the trigger to move in.

The decisionmaking of those two was pretty bad overall imo but that's what they are known for. Otherwise there wouldnt be anyone stopping them, imagine Mvp's mind in Life's body. :O
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