★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
71%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Zest vs Shine?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
25%
★★★- Good game (10)
63%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
6%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
6%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Action vs Dear?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
27%
★★★- Good game (8)
53%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
7%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
7%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Flash vs BrAvO?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (5)
12%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (17)
40%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (21)
49%
43 total votes
Your vote: Recommend TY vs Guilty?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
27%
★★★- Good game (8)
53%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Ace?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Just can't wrap my head around any other result than this. Only chance might be Shine pulling off some build too catch Zest of guard and send it to an ace match.
On January 13 2015 20:43 Big J wrote: too many puns in those line ups. I don't think I can resist when the Action starts.
Oh Dear, when the Action starts my boy Zest will Shine. The crowd will be so Flashed that they'll start chanting "Bravo!". He will then bow and laugh and admit "TY, I am Guilty of being awesome."
I'm Guilty of occasional wordplay myself, but when it comes time to take Action, my Zest for the beauty of it will Shine, and a Flash of brilliance will allow me to take my Dear, sweet time and craft a truly Bravo pun. TY for reading, and enjoy the matches.
On January 13 2015 21:07 Big J wrote: Meh, Zest you're not a pirate.
well at least hes mustacheprotoss and KTsucksballswithoutme
TY's there too.
And Flash and he's going to win because he's my fucking Captain and I cannot abandon his boat so he better get his shit together and do well in Proleague now
Zest spawns in the bottom right Shine spawns in the top left
1:00 Shine builds an overlord. Darn it.
2:00 Forge for Zest. Shine opening with a 15 hatchery, how evil. Spawning pool for Zest. Shine not reacting to the cannon rush. Zest sending another probe out.
3:00 Shine sees the cannon rush with a drone, which moves out. Zest expands. Shine takes the gold base.
4:00 Gateway for Zest. Baneling nest on the way for Shine. Shine has 8 zerglings. Two assimilators for Zest. Shine on 15 drones.
5:00 Zergling speed being researched by zest. Shine getting zerglings at the gold base as well. Shine moving out with lots of zerglings. Zest finds the gold base. Zest building a second cannon and a sentry. Zest building a gateway to block his mineral line. Banelings try to kill the gateway but they are blocked by force fields.
Zest spawns in the bottom right Shine spawns in the top left
1:00 Shine builds an overlord. Darn it.
2:00 Forge for Zest. Shine opening with a 15 hatchery, how evil. Spawning pool for Zest. Shine not reacting to the cannon rush. Zest sending another probe out.
3:00 Shine sees the cannon rush with a drone, which moves out. Zest expands. Shine takes the gold base.
4:00 Gateway for Zest. Baneling nest on the way for Shine. Shine has 8 zerglings. Two assimilators for Zest. Shine on 15 drones.
5:00 Zergling speed being researched by zest. Shine getting zerglings at the gold base as well. Shine moving out with lots of zerglings. Zest finds the gold base. Zest building a second cannon and a sentry. Zest building a gateway to block his mineral line. Banelings try to kill the gateway but they are blocked by force fields.
7:00 Zest 38 vs Shine36 Mothership core harassing the gold base of Shine but not killing any drones. +1 attack for Zest. Shine getting a lair and drones.
8:00 Zest 45 vs Shine 43 Roach warren for Shine. Zest warps in four zealots and goes straight for the main base. Shine making emergency zerglings. 6 drones fall. More zealots being warped in. Shine GG's! Zest takes the first map for KT!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
71%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Zest vs Shine?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
LOL Action looks so old these days :3 24 is same age as me and even with the odd grey hair (or several) coming through on me he would give me a run for my money xD
Action spawns in the bottom left Dear spawns in the top right
2:00 Dear sends out a very early probe scout. 14 pool for Action. Dear opening with a forge. Dear blocks the hatchery from Action for a while but loses the probe.
3:00 Both players expand. Two zerglings move across the map. Third base for Action. A probe is intercepted by the zerglings but it will scout the third.
4:00 Dear took both gasses. Gateway is finishing up for Dear. Action making drones. Cybernetics core for Dear.
5:00 Dear taking a third gas in his natural. Stalker for Dear. Action still making drones. Dear getting a stargate.
nearly every game I watch on the eng proleague stream its about "this guy" or "that guy" during intros whos about to play...this is ridiculous...like he's a total random noob
On January 13 2015 21:24 KingofdaHipHop wrote: what the fuck is rox and why are more and more people having it as a flair
Best team
I miss Titan He was so good, and then he just disappeared!
oh roxkis titan yeah i remember now
So many players who got trapped in the Challenger bubble at the end of 2013 just vanished. BabyKnight, TItan, Thorzain, Goswser, Demuslim to a certain extent. I'm gonna look up the full list of those players now.
Action spawns in the bottom left Dear spawns in the top right
2:00 Dear sends out a very early probe scout. 14 pool for Action. Dear opening with a forge. Dear blocks the hatchery from Action for a while but loses the probe.
3:00 Both players expand. Two zerglings move across the map. Third base for Action. A probe is intercepted by the zerglings but it will scout the third.
4:00 Dear took both gasses. Gateway is finishing up for Dear. Action making drones. Cybernetics core for Dear.
5:00 Dear taking a third gas in his natural. Stalker for Dear. Action still making drones. Dear getting a stargate.
6:00 +1 ground attack and a sentry from Dear. Dear getting a phoenix. Spore crawlers start for Action. Action getting a lair. The first phoenix finds an overlord. Robotics facility for Dear.
7:00 Action 68 vs Dear 58 Third spore crawler for Action. Roach warren and evolution chamber for Classic. Dear getting another phoenix.
8:00 Action 74 vs Dear 70 Action taking a fourth base while Dear takes a third. Phoenix lifts a queen in Action's main, and it dies. Hydralisks + range on the way. Dear getting a robotics bay.
9:00 Action 93 vs Dear 82 Dear getting a 7th phoenix. Action building a hive.
Action spawns in the bottom left Dear spawns in the top right
2:00 Dear sends out a very early probe scout. 14 pool for Action. Dear opening with a forge. Dear blocks the hatchery from Action for a while but loses the probe.
3:00 Both players expand. Two zerglings move across the map. Third base for Action. A probe is intercepted by the zerglings but it will scout the third.
4:00 Dear took both gasses. Gateway is finishing up for Dear. Action making drones. Cybernetics core for Dear.
5:00 Dear taking a third gas in his natural. Stalker for Dear. Action still making drones. Dear getting a stargate.
6:00 +1 ground attack and a sentry from Dear. Dear getting a phoenix. Spore crawlers start for Action. Action getting a lair. The first phoenix finds an overlord. Robotics facility for Dear.
7:00 Action 68 vs Dear 58 Third spore crawler for Action. Roach warren and evolution chamber for Classic. Dear getting another phoenix.
8:00 Action 74 vs Dear 70 Action taking a fourth base while Dear takes a third. Phoenix lifts a queen in Action's main, and it dies. Hydralisks + range on the way. Dear getting a robotics bay.
9:00 Action 93 vs Dear 82 Dear getting a 7th phoenix. Action building a hive.
10:00 Action pauses the game?
10:00 Action 103 vs Dear 102 Extended thermal lance for Dear. Dear finds a bunch of hydralisks in the center and kills them along with an overseer. 11 hydralisks and 22 roaches in productions. Action getting hydralisk speed. Dear picks up a few more hydralisks but loses phoenixes in return! DRONE RUSH from action, but he turns around in time.
12:00 Action169 vs Dear 13- Action attacking. Dear loses both colossi and retreats to his natural. An immortal finishes. Roaches being funneled in. Some probes are pulled.
14:00 Action 168 vs Dear 100 A colossus finishes and it has extended thermal lance. Dear is still on 61 probes. Action pressing on with roach/hydralisk only. Dear manages to hold the attack. Action was rallying overlords into battle.
Action spawns in the bottom left Dear spawns in the top right
2:00 Dear sends out a very early probe scout. 14 pool for Action. Dear opening with a forge. Dear blocks the hatchery from Action for a while but loses the probe.
3:00 Both players expand. Two zerglings move across the map. Third base for Action. A probe is intercepted by the zerglings but it will scout the third.
4:00 Dear took both gasses. Gateway is finishing up for Dear. Action making drones. Cybernetics core for Dear.
5:00 Dear taking a third gas in his natural. Stalker for Dear. Action still making drones. Dear getting a stargate.
6:00 +1 ground attack and a sentry from Dear. Dear getting a phoenix. Spore crawlers start for Action. Action getting a lair. The first phoenix finds an overlord. Robotics facility for Dear.
7:00 Action 68 vs Dear 58 Third spore crawler for Action. Roach warren and evolution chamber for Classic. Dear getting another phoenix.
8:00 Action 74 vs Dear 70 Action taking a fourth base while Dear takes a third. Phoenix lifts a queen in Action's main, and it dies. Hydralisks + range on the way. Dear getting a robotics bay.
9:00 Action 93 vs Dear 82 Dear getting a 7th phoenix. Action building a hive.
10:00 Action pauses the game?
10:00 Action 103 vs Dear 102 Extended thermal lance for Dear. Dear finds a bunch of hydralisks in the center and kills them along with an overseer. 11 hydralisks and 22 roaches in productions. Action getting hydralisk speed. Dear picks up a few more hydralisks but loses phoenixes in return! DRONE RUSH from action, but he turns around in time.
12:00 Action169 vs Dear 13- Action attacking. Dear loses both colossi and retreats to his natural. An immortal finishes. Roaches being funneled in. Some probes are pulled.
14:00 Action 168 vs Dear 100 A colossus finishes and it has extended thermal lance. Dear is still on 61 probes. Action pressing on with roach/hydralisk only. Dear manages to hold the attack. Action was rallying overlords into battle.
16:00 Action 159 vs Dear 120 Actually, Action cancelled his hive. Uh.. Spire on the way. Action going for another attack with roach/hydralisk. Action broke the rocks near the natural previously. Some roaches are making their way to the third base. Dear reacts with most of his forces and ends up leaving two exposed colossi in his natural area. An oracle finishes and is shredded.
18:00 Action 196 vs Dear 88 Action floods into the natural and kills the robotics facility. Dear has almost no units and he pulls probes. Action slowly cleaning up. Dear GG's! Action takes KT to a 2-0 lead!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
25%
★★★- Good game (10)
63%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
6%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
6%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Action vs Dear?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On January 13 2015 21:24 KingofdaHipHop wrote: what the fuck is rox and why are more and more people having it as a flair
Best team
I miss Titan He was so good, and then he just disappeared!
oh roxkis titan yeah i remember now
So many players who got trapped in the Challenger bubble at the end of 2013 just vanished. BabyKnight, TItan, Thorzain, Goswser, Demuslim to a certain extent. I'm gonna look up the full list of those players now.
I got the list.
America: Ryung (did nearly nothing in 2014), Demuslim (plays less, but still pops up every now and then), Vibe (went from one of NA's best to struggling for qualification), JonSnow (actually better), Goswser (lost to Incontrol before extended inactivity), Xigua (a little better than before), Petraeus (had a breakout year), SSanaEE (other than a few odd SEA online cups, completely retired)
Europe: BabyKnight (was still one of the best, but then went to Dota, had a team for about a month, hasn't had one since), Noname (I think he plays for RuW now? He's done nothing), JonnyREcco (and on the seventh day, he rested), Hasuobs (played a bit less, spending time polishing his SIX EPS TROPHIES), Elfi (bounced around, took a break, still mostly the same Elfi), Grubby (playing Heroes now), Thorzain (Twitch money paying for med school), and Mana (saved by the horse). I was wrong about Titan, he was actually eliminated proper.
So some highs, some lows, but a definite net downward trend.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
25%
★★★- Good game (10)
63%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
6%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
6%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Action vs Dear?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
The ideal would've been for Action to lose and then Flash and TY wins, but damn, that was a really nice win from Action. Such an underrated player (by me included).
On January 13 2015 21:44 Ctesias wrote: The ideal would've been for Action to lose and then Flash and TY wins, but damn, that was a really nice win from Action. Such an underrated player (by me included).
Action is like the clutchest player for KT in sc2 PL haha
There were three parts to the Flash slump. First, it was herO's Zealot-Stalker-MSC poke to death. Then, it was DRG busting him out of Code S. Finally, it was Parting's Blink of Doom.
On January 13 2015 21:51 Circumstance wrote: There were three parts to the Flash slump. First, it was herO's Zealot-Stalker-MSC poke to death. Then, it was DRG busting him out of Code S. Finally, it was Parting's Blink of Doom.
Can we add HerO's 4 oracles to this, just because it was amazing
On January 13 2015 21:51 Circumstance wrote: There were three parts to the Flash slump. First, it was herO's Zealot-Stalker-MSC poke to death. Then, it was DRG busting him out of Code S. Finally, it was Parting's Blink of Doom.
Can we add HerO's 4 oracles to this, just because it was amazing
Flash spawns in the bottom right BrAvO spawns in the top right
2:00 BrAvO goes gas first. Flash opens with a barracks followed by a gas.
3:00 Factory for BrAvO. Flash building a reaper. Second gas for BrAvO. Flash expands Flash nearly kills BrAvO's marine.
4:00 Reaper finishes for BrAvO. BrAvO getting a starport which Flash does not see. Factory for Flash.
5:00 BrAvO scouts the main but does not see the natural. Cloaked banshee and a widow mine for BrAvO. BrAvO expands. Flash gets the reaper with two hellions.
Someone please tell me why Flash was going to win this match?
Yay, I needed TY to win the next match since I traded Rogue for him!
Also, I cannot even believe how amazing Flash has been for anti team. After TY wins the next match, he'll just have 2 points, and he costed like, 9....
Flash spawns in the bottom right BrAvO spawns in the top right
2:00 BrAvO goes gas first. Flash opens with a barracks followed by a gas.
3:00 Factory for BrAvO. Flash building a reaper. Second gas for BrAvO. Flash expands Flash nearly kills BrAvO's marine.
4:00 Reaper finishes for BrAvO. BrAvO getting a starport which Flash does not see. Factory for Flash.
5:00 BrAvO scouts the main but does not see the natural. Cloaked banshee and a widow mine for BrAvO. BrAvO expands. Flash gets the reaper with two hellions.
6:00 Flash getting more hellions and a medivac. Banshee shows up in the main of Flash but Flash picks up his units and goes anyway. BrAvO repels the attack. BrAvO tries to kill a depot but fails to do so. Flash moving towards BrAvO's natural with hellions and the main with a drop.
8:00 Flash 60 vs BrAvO 59 BrAvO kills the medivac but it unloads first. Flash burrowed a mine on a dark spot of terrain and BrAvO didn't see it until too late. BrAvO going for a viking/banshee attack with an SCV pull?
10:00 Flash 68 vs BrAvO 75 Two tanks siege up at Flash's natural. Flash pulling SCVs and sending his units in but the SCVs were too early and he can't break through. BrAvO kills most of Flash's units and they have to retreat. BrAvO still has 2 banshee and four vikings which are pretty much uncontested.
Flash spawns in the bottom right BrAvO spawns in the top right
2:00 BrAvO goes gas first. Flash opens with a barracks followed by a gas.
3:00 Factory for BrAvO. Flash building a reaper. Second gas for BrAvO. Flash expands Flash nearly kills BrAvO's marine.
4:00 Reaper finishes for BrAvO. BrAvO getting a starport which Flash does not see. Factory for Flash.
5:00 BrAvO scouts the main but does not see the natural. Cloaked banshee and a widow mine for BrAvO. BrAvO expands. Flash gets the reaper with two hellions.
6:00 Flash getting more hellions and a medivac. Banshee shows up in the main of Flash but Flash picks up his units and goes anyway. BrAvO repels the attack. BrAvO tries to kill a depot but fails to do so. Flash moving towards BrAvO's natural with hellions and the main with a drop.
8:00 Flash 60 vs BrAvO 59 BrAvO kills the medivac but it unloads first. Flash burrowed a mine on a dark spot of terrain and BrAvO didn't see it until too late. BrAvO going for a viking/banshee attack with an SCV pull?
10:00 Flash 68 vs BrAvO 75 Two tanks siege up at Flash's natural. Flash pulling SCVs and sending his units in but the SCVs were too early and he can't break through. BrAvO kills most of Flash's units and they have to retreat. BrAvO still has 2 banshee and four vikings which are pretty much uncontested.
11:00 Flash 47 vs BrAvO 78 Flash loses his starport and GG's! BrAvO brings his team back to 1-2!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
27%
★★★- Good game (8)
53%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
7%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
7%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Flash vs BrAvO?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On January 13 2015 22:01 Pandemona wrote: Wow Flash da fucking fudge is that. Him and Marine King right now are SURELY practice partners? I also think Flash is refusing Ryu Won's input TT
BrAvO had already won him like that in the first 2014 season of Code A
On January 13 2015 22:01 Pandemona wrote: Wow Flash da fucking fudge is that. Him and Marine King right now are SURELY practice partners? I also think Flash is refusing Ryu Won's input TT
BrAvO had already won him like that in the first 2014 season of Code A
Lol nice Can you explain the builds from MK and Flash? Why are they going heavy hellion builds and not a single siege tank or banshee as more baulk to the army?
Seems like all Bravo and Bbyong did was exploit the fact they are on 10 hellions and like 4 vikings for 10 minutes and kill them.
wow Bravo was prepared for every angle flash tried to harass from. Didn't even amove the Vikings they were in range of the Medivacs but he chased it down to get the kill. Game felt like total preparation.
On January 13 2015 22:03 digmouse wrote: Flash is on a 11 game losing streak, this is unseen before in his career at all, he looks devastated.
Where does this 11 game come from? Because in that streak he won a game (but lost the match) against ByuL, which makes this a 8-9 games losing streak. Still terrible, but not AS terrible.
On January 13 2015 22:01 Pandemona wrote: Wow Flash da fucking fudge is that. Him and Marine King right now are SURELY practice partners? I also think Flash is refusing Ryu Won's input TT
BrAvO had already won him like that in the first 2014 season of Code A
Lol nice Can you explain the builds from MK and Flash? Why are they going heavy hellion builds and not a single siege tank or banshee as more baulk to the army?
Seems like all Bravo and Bbyong did was exploit the fact they are on 10 hellions and like 4 vikings for 10 minutes and kill them.
For MarineKing, having only Hellions at the time Bbyong hits is normal. 1b Marines/Tanks/Banshees pushes are commonly defended with SCVs/Hellions/Vikings alone.
For BrAvO, he retained his Banshees and added Reactor'ed Vikings, so Flash would need more Vikings and either a Tank or Hellbats (and preferably a Bunker to stall). Flash's plan to counter-attack with a Marines/Hellions elevator to damage his opponent failed because BrAvO saw the Medivac, blocked the aggression without any loss and rolled on with a critical mass hitting before Flash had enough stuff to defend.
On January 13 2015 22:01 Pandemona wrote: Wow Flash da fucking fudge is that. Him and Marine King right now are SURELY practice partners? I also think Flash is refusing Ryu Won's input TT
BrAvO had already won him like that in the first 2014 season of Code A
Lol nice Can you explain the builds from MK and Flash? Why are they going heavy hellion builds and not a single siege tank or banshee as more baulk to the army?
Seems like all Bravo and Bbyong did was exploit the fact they are on 10 hellions and like 4 vikings for 10 minutes and kill them.
Don't forget Flash got that drop denied and had his marines out of position due to that. I think it had a lot do with the actual exectuion/action in the match and not so much with the build orders. A few things went wrong and spiraled out of control fast, that's just how early TvT can be.
I guess Jaedong is favoured vs Flash now O_O a month ago people would say "that is a boring match Flash wins ez" That was not a face of somebody who is not trying, he looked devastated there.
It's pretty obvious. Flash's opponent can read him like a book now. He's eager to win hence his play looks very impatient (the early move out of the medivac seemed very hasty imo). Flash needs to take one step back, observe more, play more prudently.
On January 13 2015 22:12 plotspot wrote: It's pretty obvious. Flash's opponent can read him like a book now. He's eager to win hence his play looks very impatient (the early move out of the medivac seemed very hasty imo).
?? If you fast expand and build a Medivac as your first Starport unit against a Banshee opening, it's to counter-attack immediately. Otherwise you would build a Viking. The goal is to hit before the first Tank or when the first Tank just arrives.
TY spawns in the top left Guilty spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Both players going gas first followed by a barracks. Marine for both players. Factory for both players.
3:00 Reaper for both players. Second refinery for both players. Both getting a starport. Reapers moving out.
4:00 Tech labs being made by both players. Guilty making a hellion, TY another marine. Guilty's reaper makes it into TY's main base and kills two SCVs, but TY's reaper is deflected. Guilty loses his reaper. TY's starport is very delayed because of this reaper.
5:00 Raven for Guilty. TY also building a raven. Both players getting a widow mine.
TY spawns in the top left Guilty spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Both players going gas first followed by a barracks. Marine for both players. Factory for both players.
3:00 Reaper for both players. Second refinery for both players. Both getting a starport. Reapers moving out.
4:00 Tech labs being made by both players. Guilty making a hellion, TY another marine. Guilty's reaper makes it into TY's main base and kills two SCVs, but TY's reaper is deflected. Guilty loses his reaper. TY's starport is very delayed because of this reaper.
5:00 Raven for Guilty. TY also building a raven. Both players getting a widow mine.
6:00 Both players getting a second CC, TY's is on low ground. Guilty traps TY's reaper and kills it. Widow mine moving out for TY. Cloaked banshee for TY, regular one for Guilty. TY cancels cloak and the banshee.
7:00 TY 42 vs Guilty 46 Tank for TY. TY getting two vikings at a time. Guilty getting his own tank.
8:00 TY 51 vs Guilty 52 Guilty killing his backdoor rocks. Guilty's banshee is at the rocks instead of moving out. His CC is still in the main base and 4 SCVs are long distance mining from it.
9:00 TY 62 vs Guilty 60 Guilty getting more vikings, but this will only equalize the air unit count. Guilty getting caught out of position. Third CC for TY. Guilty backs off to his natural and holds TY's incoming push. Guilty getting more vikings and a tank. TY regrouping in the center of the map.
Guilty looks like he got this imo. Air and Tank lead. TY will need a great hold to even break even. I think an ace match is coming and Zest has to put in more work.
On January 13 2015 22:12 plotspot wrote: It's pretty obvious. Flash's opponent can read him like a book now. He's eager to win hence his play looks very impatient (the early move out of the medivac seemed very hasty imo).
?? If you fast expand and build a Medivac as your first Starport unit against a Banshee opening, it's to counter-attack immediately. Otherwise you would build a Viking. The goal is to hit before the first Tank or when the first Tank just arrives.
In your opinion, where was the point when he was doomed? What could he have done without the information we observer had to at least prolong the game and possibly slowly crawling back?
TY spawns in the top left Guilty spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Both players going gas first followed by a barracks. Marine for both players. Factory for both players.
3:00 Reaper for both players. Second refinery for both players. Both getting a starport. Reapers moving out.
4:00 Tech labs being made by both players. Guilty making a hellion, TY another marine. Guilty's reaper makes it into TY's main base and kills two SCVs, but TY's reaper is deflected. Guilty loses his reaper. TY's starport is very delayed because of this reaper.
5:00 Raven for Guilty. TY also building a raven. Both players getting a widow mine.
6:00 Both players getting a second CC, TY's is on low ground. Guilty traps TY's reaper and kills it. Widow mine moving out for TY. Cloaked banshee for TY, regular one for Guilty. TY cancels cloak and the banshee.
7:00 TY 42 vs Guilty 46 Tank for TY. TY getting two vikings at a time. Guilty getting his own tank.
8:00 TY 51 vs Guilty 52 Guilty killing his backdoor rocks. Guilty's banshee is at the rocks instead of moving out. His CC is still in the main base and 4 SCVs are long distance mining from it.
9:00 TY 62 vs Guilty 60 Guilty getting more vikings, but this will only equalize the air unit count. Guilty getting caught out of position. Third CC for TY. Guilty backs off to his natural and holds TY's incoming push. Guilty getting more vikings and a tank. TY regrouping in the center of the map.
11:00 TY 70 vs Guilty 70 Guilty queueing up 5 SCVs in his main CC. Guilty moving out and narrowly killing TY's army, trading tanks and marines while retaining air superiority. Guilty loses a widow mine while pushing towards TY's base.
12:00 TY 64 vs Guilty 67 Guilty moving forwards, denying mining. TY holds the attack of Guilty for the moment. Guilty still has the tank lead but has almost no marines. Guilty is up to 7 vikings against 3.
14:00 TY 81 vs Guilty 80 Guilty loses a tank but kills a tank in return with a single landed viking. Good viking micro from guilty. TY loses a tank.
15:00 TY 76 vs Guilty 70 TY slowly losing control of his natural. Guilty moving a tank right into the natural expansion. TY is still 6 workers ahead but is barely mining. TY loading all of his units into medivacs. Vikings killing medivacs. TY holds but loses 18 workers. Guilty has a third CC behind this.
On January 13 2015 22:12 plotspot wrote: It's pretty obvious. Flash's opponent can read him like a book now. He's eager to win hence his play looks very impatient (the early move out of the medivac seemed very hasty imo).
?? If you fast expand and build a Medivac as your first Starport unit against a Banshee opening, it's to counter-attack immediately. Otherwise you would build a Viking. The goal is to hit before the first Tank or when the first Tank just arrives.
In your opinion, where was the point when he was doomed? What could he have done without the information we observer had to at least prolong the game and possibly slowly crawling back?
Probably when he lost his Medivac, leaving his Marines out of position, or when his Hellions got isolated by BrAvO's Banshees. I think he should have played an earlier Armory and stalled for Hellbats / air dominance with Vikings, but not sure
TY spawns in the top left Guilty spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Both players going gas first followed by a barracks. Marine for both players. Factory for both players.
3:00 Reaper for both players. Second refinery for both players. Both getting a starport. Reapers moving out.
4:00 Tech labs being made by both players. Guilty making a hellion, TY another marine. Guilty's reaper makes it into TY's main base and kills two SCVs, but TY's reaper is deflected. Guilty loses his reaper. TY's starport is very delayed because of this reaper.
5:00 Raven for Guilty. TY also building a raven. Both players getting a widow mine.
6:00 Both players getting a second CC, TY's is on low ground. Guilty traps TY's reaper and kills it. Widow mine moving out for TY. Cloaked banshee for TY, regular one for Guilty. TY cancels cloak and the banshee.
7:00 TY 42 vs Guilty 46 Tank for TY. TY getting two vikings at a time. Guilty getting his own tank.
8:00 TY 51 vs Guilty 52 Guilty killing his backdoor rocks. Guilty's banshee is at the rocks instead of moving out. His CC is still in the main base and 4 SCVs are long distance mining from it.
9:00 TY 62 vs Guilty 60 Guilty getting more vikings, but this will only equalize the air unit count. Guilty getting caught out of position. Third CC for TY. Guilty backs off to his natural and holds TY's incoming push. Guilty getting more vikings and a tank. TY regrouping in the center of the map.
11:00 TY 70 vs Guilty 70 Guilty queueing up 5 SCVs in his main CC. Guilty moving out and narrowly killing TY's army, trading tanks and marines while retaining air superiority. Guilty loses a widow mine while pushing towards TY's base.
12:00 TY 64 vs Guilty 67 Guilty moving forwards, denying mining. TY holds the attack of Guilty for the moment. Guilty still has the tank lead but has almost no marines. Guilty is up to 7 vikings against 3.
14:00 TY 81 vs Guilty 80 Guilty loses a tank but kills a tank in return with a single landed viking. Good viking micro from guilty. TY loses a tank.
15:00 TY 76 vs Guilty 70 TY slowly losing control of his natural. Guilty moving a tank right into the natural expansion. TY is still 6 workers ahead but is barely mining. TY loading all of his units into medivacs. Vikings killing medivacs. TY holds but loses 18 workers. Guilty has a third CC behind this.
16:00 TY 72 vs Guilty 72 Stim finishing for TY. Both players even in workers. O.o Combat shields starting for Guilty, nearly finished for TY. Guilty producing medivacs and has +1 while TY does't. Guilty moving towards TY's back door.
17:00 TY 105 vs Guilty 105 Guilty sieges up the back of TY's natural and denies mining. Both players going for a drop. Guilty has stim as well and I didn't notice. TY takes air superiority. Guilty's drop kills 20 workers. TY cleans up the drop.
19:00 TY 110 vs Guilty 116 Guilty scrambling to defend the drop, eventually killing the medivac. +2 attack for Guilty. Guilty 7 workers ahead with a much higher gas income, but over saturating the minerals left in his main. TY is ahead 6-2 in tanks and vikings but has fewer marines.
20:00 TY 116 vs Guilty 136 Guilty going for a drop with four medivacs. TY has 6 vikings waiting but Guilty boosts out and doesn't go full Bomber.
TY spawns in the top left Guilty spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Both players going gas first followed by a barracks. Marine for both players. Factory for both players.
3:00 Reaper for both players. Second refinery for both players. Both getting a starport. Reapers moving out.
4:00 Tech labs being made by both players. Guilty making a hellion, TY another marine. Guilty's reaper makes it into TY's main base and kills two SCVs, but TY's reaper is deflected. Guilty loses his reaper. TY's starport is very delayed because of this reaper.
5:00 Raven for Guilty. TY also building a raven. Both players getting a widow mine.
6:00 Both players getting a second CC, TY's is on low ground. Guilty traps TY's reaper and kills it. Widow mine moving out for TY. Cloaked banshee for TY, regular one for Guilty. TY cancels cloak and the banshee.
7:00 TY 42 vs Guilty 46 Tank for TY. TY getting two vikings at a time. Guilty getting his own tank.
8:00 TY 51 vs Guilty 52 Guilty killing his backdoor rocks. Guilty's banshee is at the rocks instead of moving out. His CC is still in the main base and 4 SCVs are long distance mining from it.
9:00 TY 62 vs Guilty 60 Guilty getting more vikings, but this will only equalize the air unit count. Guilty getting caught out of position. Third CC for TY. Guilty backs off to his natural and holds TY's incoming push. Guilty getting more vikings and a tank. TY regrouping in the center of the map.
11:00 TY 70 vs Guilty 70 Guilty queueing up 5 SCVs in his main CC. Guilty moving out and narrowly killing TY's army, trading tanks and marines while retaining air superiority. Guilty loses a widow mine while pushing towards TY's base.
12:00 TY 64 vs Guilty 67 Guilty moving forwards, denying mining. TY holds the attack of Guilty for the moment. Guilty still has the tank lead but has almost no marines. Guilty is up to 7 vikings against 3.
14:00 TY 81 vs Guilty 80 Guilty loses a tank but kills a tank in return with a single landed viking. Good viking micro from guilty. TY loses a tank.
15:00 TY 76 vs Guilty 70 TY slowly losing control of his natural. Guilty moving a tank right into the natural expansion. TY is still 6 workers ahead but is barely mining. TY loading all of his units into medivacs. Vikings killing medivacs. TY holds but loses 18 workers. Guilty has a third CC behind this.
16:00 TY 72 vs Guilty 72 Stim finishing for TY. Both players even in workers. O.o Combat shields starting for Guilty, nearly finished for TY. Guilty producing medivacs and has +1 while TY does't. Guilty moving towards TY's back door.
17:00 TY 105 vs Guilty 105 Guilty sieges up the back of TY's natural and denies mining. Both players going for a drop. Guilty has stim as well and I didn't notice. TY takes air superiority. Guilty's drop kills 20 workers. TY cleans up the drop.
19:00 TY 110 vs Guilty 116 Guilty scrambling to defend the drop, eventually killing the medivac. +2 attack for Guilty. Guilty 7 workers ahead with a much higher gas income, but over saturating the minerals left in his main. TY is ahead 6-2 in tanks and vikings but has fewer marines.
20:00 TY 116 vs Guilty 136 Guilty going for a drop with four medivacs. TY has 6 vikings waiting but Guilty boosts out and doesn't go full Bomber.
21:00 TY 132 vs Guilty 160 Guilty gathering in the center. Both players trying to secure the upper center area safely, but both back off upon seeing the other as a threat. Guilty sending a large force of marines and tanks to the side. Guilty going for a huge concave. GUILTY LANDING MANNER MULES WTF GUILTY BREAKING THE THIRD TY losing everything. TY GG's! Guilty ties the series 2-2!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
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★★★- Good game (5)
12%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (17)
40%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (21)
49%
43 total votes
Your vote: Recommend TY vs Guilty?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
One thing I like about the Solar choice is that he didn't have any other map to practice. His GSL group is one of the later ones, he's not in SSL, and he wasn't in the main lineup. Whatever he does, he's been doing it all week.
Goddammit Solar, if you pull out a Catz build I will burn my Samsung banner and announce my new allegiance to SKT led by the younger and better looking Dark.
On January 13 2015 22:49 Motlu wrote: Goddammit Solar, if you pull out a Catz build I will burn my Samsung banner and announce my new allegiance to SKT led by the younger and better looking Dark.
SKT? You realize that Korea's most vocal believer in Catz builds is soO, right?
On January 13 2015 22:49 Motlu wrote: Goddammit Solar, if you pull out a Catz build I will burn my Samsung banner and announce my new allegiance to SKT led by the younger and better looking Dark.
"Wow, you can't be more unlucky to pick a team like that" :o Sure enough he's dead last. Poor Mafab. What were you thinking putting Inno and Life in anti...
On January 13 2015 22:49 Motlu wrote: Goddammit Solar, if you pull out a Catz build I will burn my Samsung banner and announce my new allegiance to SKT led by the younger and better looking Dark.
On January 13 2015 22:49 Motlu wrote: Goddammit Solar, if you pull out a Catz build I will burn my Samsung banner and announce my new allegiance to SKT led by the younger and better looking Dark.
SKT? You realize that Korea's most vocal believer in Catz builds is soO, right?
Besides, Solar's going for The Truth, anyway.
soO makes it work though ;_;
Edit: Thank Nestea a standard game. Solar has a solid chance now ;P
"Wow, you can't be more unlucky to pick a team like that" :o Sure enough he's dead last. Poor Mafab. What were you thinking putting Inno and Life in anti...
Nah man, that's deliberate. He's going for the Hipster Award, worst team trying to be bad. And now, funnily enough, Guilty might screw up his plan.
Zest spawns in the bottom right Solar spawns in the top right
1:00 Solar going 10 pool. Zest scouting after his first pylon. Double extractor tricks.
2:00 Zest getting a forge at his natural, followed by a cannon. Two zerglings on the way for Solar.
3:00 Solar expanding before Zest.
4:00 Zest getting a gateway and two assimilators. Solar taking his third. Cybernetics core from Zest.
5:00 Solar building more drones. Stargate on the way for Zest. Solar sees the cybernetics core. Sentry for Zest.
6:00 Solar barely sees Zest's stargate with another scouting overlord. Oracle on the way. Zest's only unit is a sentry. Oracle finishes.
7:00 Zest 52 vs Solar 61 Zergling speed on the way for Solar. Zest's oracle loses half of its health and kills just two drones. Third base for Zest.
8:00 Zest 57 vs Solar 74 Solar getting a roach warren. +1/1 melee for Solar. +1 is nearly finished for Zest. Zest adding on three gateways and a twilight council. Zergling speed finishing for Solar. Solar is at 71 drones.
9:00 Zest 68 vs Solar 91 Solar suicides an overlord to see the third base of Zest. +2 attack starts for Zest. 4 more gateways for Zest in his main base. Solar starting a fourth base. Infestation pit for Solar. Spire for Solar.
10:00 Zest 91 vs Solar 125 Solar peaked at 76 drones. +1 melee attack finished for Solar as well as +1 carapace. Roach speed is being researched. Solar runs into the third base of Zest and kills five probes.
Zest spawns in the bottom right Solar spawns in the top right
1:00 Solar going 10 pool. Zest scouting after his first pylon. Double extractor tricks.
2:00 Zest getting a forge at his natural, followed by a cannon. Two zerglings on the way for Solar.
3:00 Solar expanding before Zest.
4:00 Zest getting a gateway and two assimilators. Solar taking his third. Cybernetics core from Zest.
5:00 Solar building more drones. Stargate on the way for Zest. Solar sees the cybernetics core. Sentry for Zest.
6:00 Solar barely sees Zest's stargate with another scouting overlord. Oracle on the way. Zest's only unit is a sentry. Oracle finishes.
7:00 Zest 52 vs Solar 61 Zergling speed on the way for Solar. Zest's oracle loses half of its health and kills just two drones. Third base for Zest.
8:00 Zest 57 vs Solar 74 Solar getting a roach warren. +1/1 melee for Solar. +1 is nearly finished for Zest. Zest adding on three gateways and a twilight council. Zergling speed finishing for Solar. Solar is at 71 drones.
9:00 Zest 68 vs Solar 91 Solar suicides an overlord to see the third base of Zest. +2 attack starts for Zest. 4 more gateways for Zest in his main base. Solar starting a fourth base. Infestation pit for Solar. Spire for Solar.
10:00 Zest 91 vs Solar 125 Solar peaked at 76 drones. +1 melee attack finished for Solar as well as +1 carapace. Roach speed is being researched. Solar runs into the third base of Zest and kills five probes.
12:00 Zest 174 vs Solar 119 Zest making his way into the third base of Solar. Zest kills the hatchery and Solar tries to attack, while being assisted with a zergling flank. Zest is barely forced back, but he's floating 1400 minerals and 18 drones died. Solar still has his fourth base. Zest is chronoboosting his warp gates but is now supply blocked. Enduring locusts being researched. Solar's got two swarm hosts.
14:00 Zest 126 vs Solar 123 Zest crushes the army of Solar. Zest goes into the third and blinks on top of the army. Solar GG's! KT wins 3-2!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
27%
★★★- Good game (8)
53%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Ace?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On January 13 2015 23:00 coL.hendralisk wrote: irks me to see protoss can do fast 3rds with no risk (photon overcharge) and then attacks that have no risk (recall)
Don't forget if they are in a bad position they can use ffs to make it into a good choke point!
I remember that guy who was saying Zest was overrated and was a patchtoss and would only perform like shit in PL this year. I guess he's not around anymore?
On January 13 2015 23:00 coL.hendralisk wrote: irks me to see protoss can do fast 3rds with no risk (photon overcharge) and then attacks that have no risk (recall)
On January 13 2015 23:04 OtherWorld wrote: I remember that guy who was saying Zest was overrated and was a patchtoss and would only perform like shit in PL this year. I guess he's not around anymore?
haah yeah what happened to that guy? Maybe he had to eat his own words and can't talk anymore :/
On January 13 2015 23:04 Daswollvieh wrote: KT coach: "Okay guys, you know the drill. Try to somehow make it to ace, so Zest can bring it home."
"We just need Zest and one other person to win so we can get to the Ace. Action, this week it's your turn." Flash: "Coach, when do I get to win?" Coach: "Don't be silly."
On January 13 2015 23:04 OtherWorld wrote: I remember that guy who was saying Zest was overrated and was a patchtoss and would only perform like shit in PL this year. I guess he's not around anymore?
swag_bro ? haha
anyway ZEST the best my captain delivers perfect day for my fpl
On January 13 2015 23:04 OtherWorld wrote: I remember that guy who was saying Zest was overrated and was a patchtoss and would only perform like shit in PL this year. I guess he's not around anymore?
swag_bro ? haha
anyway ZEST the best my captain delivers perfect day for my fpl
I think swag_bro said Zest was the best player in the world.
On January 13 2015 23:04 OtherWorld wrote: I remember that guy who was saying Zest was overrated and was a patchtoss and would only perform like shit in PL this year. I guess he's not around anymore?
swag_bro ? haha
anyway ZEST the best my captain delivers perfect day for my fpl
Nah swag_bro considers Zest to be the best Protoss on earth sometimes. It was... SackOfWetMice iirc?
On January 13 2015 23:04 Daswollvieh wrote: KT coach: "Okay guys, you know the drill. Try to somehow make it to ace, so Zest can bring it home."
"We just need Zest and one other person to win so we can get to the Ace. Action, this week it's your turn." Flash: "Coach, when do I get to win?" Coach: "Don't be silly."
Coach (whispering to TY): "Make sure you lose too, so Flash doesn't feel bad".
On January 13 2015 23:04 OtherWorld wrote: I remember that guy who was saying Zest was overrated and was a patchtoss and would only perform like shit in PL this year. I guess he's not around anymore?
swag_bro ? haha
anyway ZEST the best my captain delivers perfect day for my fpl
Nah swag_bro considers Zest to be the best Protoss on earth sometimes. It was... SackOfWetMice iirc?
On January 13 2015 23:04 OtherWorld wrote: I remember that guy who was saying Zest was overrated and was a patchtoss and would only perform like shit in PL this year. I guess he's not around anymore?
swag_bro ? haha
anyway ZEST the best my captain delivers perfect day for my fpl
Nah swag_bro considers Zest to be the best Protoss on earth sometimes. It was... SackOfWetMice iirc?
On January 13 2015 23:04 OtherWorld wrote: I remember that guy who was saying Zest was overrated and was a patchtoss and would only perform like shit in PL this year. I guess he's not around anymore?
swag_bro ? haha
anyway ZEST the best my captain delivers perfect day for my fpl
Nah swag_bro considers Zest to be the best Protoss on earth sometimes. It was... SackOfWetMice iirc?
I am happy for Zest (i mean he starts building confidence again after the tough qualifier losses), but TY cmon man... How can you lose to that guilty guy -.-
On January 13 2015 23:18 The_Red_Viper wrote: I am happy for Zest (i mean he starts building confidence again after the tough qualifier losses), but TY cmon man... How can you lose to that guilty guy -.-
On January 13 2015 23:18 The_Red_Viper wrote: I am happy for Zest (i mean he starts building confidence again after the tough qualifier losses), but TY cmon man... How can you lose to that guilty guy -.-
Guilty was a pleasant surprise, honestly. Where most players look very nervous when they play in the booth for the first time, Guilty looked like a seasoned veteran. His demeanor reminded me a lot of soO's. His first game was also very important, win or his team gets eliminated. From what I could tell by watching this morning, all that he needs to improve on is his multitasking and macro. He has good army control and positioning. I hope to see more of him in the future, as he is a very hopeful prospect.
Since i couldnt watch live, i just read a little bit of the LR and started watching the vods. Did KT get a warning or something because of that pause by Action?
On January 14 2015 05:41 BlackCompany wrote: Since i couldnt watch live, i just read a little bit of the LR and started watching the vods. Did KT get a warning or something because of that pause by Action?
No idea. Liquipedia doesn't say anything so I would guess not?
On January 14 2015 05:41 BlackCompany wrote: Since i couldnt watch live, i just read a little bit of the LR and started watching the vods. Did KT get a warning or something because of that pause by Action?
No idea. Liquipedia doesn't say anything so I would guess not?
I'll trust liquipedia then . Surprising though, i really thought Kespa would give a warning/penalty for that. But glad to see they didnt, maybe there really was an issue so it was ok. Thanks!
On January 13 2015 23:04 OtherWorld wrote: I remember that guy who was saying Zest was overrated and was a patchtoss and would only perform like shit in PL this year. I guess he's not around anymore?
swag_bro ? haha
anyway ZEST the best my captain delivers perfect day for my fpl
Nah swag_bro considers Zest to be the best Protoss on earth sometimes. It was... SackOfWetMice iirc?
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