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No more balance whining please.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
November 28 2014 11:40 GMT
#121
On November 28 2014 20:39 KingAlphard wrote:
Shield upgrades?

Does this upgrade make the shield regen faster?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 11:40:46
November 28 2014 11:40 GMT
#122
Definitely shields > armor for blink stalkers but idk about shields > weapons
EDIT: No I don't think it changes the regeneration speed.
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 11:41:35
November 28 2014 11:40 GMT
#123
MMA is so dead.

Or not.
Hello
_Joker_
Profile Joined November 2014
Russian Federation1 Post
November 28 2014 11:41 GMT
#124
All matches are BO3 except final?
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 28 2014 11:41 GMT
#125
cool moves by patience but a lot of stalkers aren't doing anything.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
November 28 2014 11:41 GMT
#126
This game
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
November 28 2014 11:41 GMT
#127
On November 28 2014 20:41 _Joker_ wrote:
All matches are BO3 except final?

Bo5, final is Bo7
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Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
November 28 2014 11:42 GMT
#128
On November 28 2014 20:41 _Joker_ wrote:
All matches are BO3 except final?

All matches BO5 until the finals which is BO7
Hello
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
November 28 2014 11:42 GMT
#129
This is what happens everytime I do 2 base blink stalkers, except that I don't take any damage at the start.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 28 2014 11:42 GMT
#130
well nice try patience but it looks like MMA has this game in the bag.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
November 28 2014 11:43 GMT
#131
Can Nathanias just for one second not whine about balance.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
November 28 2014 11:44 GMT
#132
On November 28 2014 20:40 KingAlphard wrote:
Definitely shields > armor for blink stalkers but idk about shields > weapons
EDIT: No I don't think it changes the regeneration speed.


Shields aren't that much better than armor though. Keep in mind that it's only when the stalkers have taken enough damage that at least would've damaged the health without the +shields, regen and then taken damage like that again that shields are more effective than armor. Which isn't very often.

If you're adding zealots in the composition, armor gets a lot better already.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
November 28 2014 11:46 GMT
#133
Those Zealots got smashed
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
November 28 2014 11:47 GMT
#134
Poll: Recommend Patience vs MMA Game 3?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
20%

★★★- Good game (4)
 
80%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

5 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Patience vs MMA Game 3?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season

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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 28 2014 11:47 GMT
#135
Widow mine buff killed zealot archon.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
November 28 2014 11:47 GMT
#136
One more, MMA!
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
November 28 2014 11:48 GMT
#137
Leenock map? Hmm... I don't think so.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
November 28 2014 11:48 GMT
#138
On November 28 2014 20:42 Keeemy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 20:41 _Joker_ wrote:
All matches are BO3 except final?

All matches BO5 until the finals which is BO7


they finally changed this
my prayers have been answered \m/
Dating thread on TL LUL
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
November 28 2014 11:49 GMT
#139
On November 28 2014 20:47 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Widow mine buff killed zealot archon.


Yeah for sure. I'm not that sad about it, it's such an amove composition. But would be nice to see a protoss composition that aren't as reliant on the mass aoe. Feel it all comes down to forcefields being in the game so basic gateway units can't fight straight up vs basic terran units.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 11:52:37
November 28 2014 11:49 GMT
#140
On November 28 2014 20:44 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 20:40 KingAlphard wrote:
Definitely shields > armor for blink stalkers but idk about shields > weapons
EDIT: No I don't think it changes the regeneration speed.


Shields aren't that much better than armor though. Keep in mind that it's only when the stalkers have taken enough damage that at least would've damaged the health without the +shields, regen and then taken damage like that again that shields are more effective than armor. Which isn't very often.

If you're adding zealots in the composition, armor gets a lot better already.


It's not that simple. Stalkers have 80 hitpoints + 80 shields. Ignoring the fact that they already have +1 armor , which makes armor upgrades slightly better,statistically speaking (assuming units deal with a single hit a low amount of damage compared to the total amount of shields, and the type of damage dealt to shields is the same dealt to hitpoints) the damage reduction is proportional to the damage taken.
Stalkers have the same amount of hitpoints as shields, which means you'll never take more damage on armor (which is permanent) than on shield (can be regenerated), in particular well microed blink stalkers can absorbe much more damage on shields than on armor.
That being said this works only for stalkers, most protoss units have more hitpoints than shields, and there's always the fact that they have +1 base armor, which means that adding a further +1 will make more difference.
EDIT: and obviously EMP.
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