EPT[WCS] Global Finals 2014 Day 3 - Page 418
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p14c
Vatican City State431 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 09 2014 22:37 p14c wrote: The game meta is too unstable to crown anyone as "The best player of 2014". Isn't Life in Code A?... Life is in Code B. | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On November 09 2014 22:07 chatuka wrote: so 1-4 in the finals doesn't count somehow?Bomber was the most feared player here. Their is a reason he is number and to say that he isn't a top 3 player at this moment is foolish to say. My point was that mma aced a tough draw as did life. Yet mma did Mich better . there was no doubt that mma proved he was better than bomber and classic. Life did not do that vs zest and taeja. Zest or taeja were one game away from defeating life. Therefore life was not demonstrating he was the better player due to the fact he played 3-2 twice already. And mma never did once. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
Don't use seeding as any kind of indicator of how good each player is. Freaking Hyun had the second overall seed and he was probably the weakest player at the tournament. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On November 09 2014 22:47 Vindicare605 wrote: Oh please people. Bomber only has the most WCS points because he played in freaking WCS America. Don't use seeding as any kind of indicator of how good each player is. Freaking Hyun had the second overall seed and he was probably the weakest player at the tournament. No, that was Jaedong #shotsfired | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Jjakji | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
Jaedong was why I said probably instead of definitely. It was definitely one of those two that were the weakest players in attendance. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8760 Posts
On November 09 2014 22:07 chatuka wrote: Bomber was the most feared player here. Their is a reason he is number and to say that he isn't a top 3 player at this moment is foolish to say. My point was that mma aced a tough draw as did life. Yet mma did Mich better . there was no doubt that mma proved he was better than bomber and classic. Life did not do that vs zest and taeja. Zest or taeja were one game away from defeating life. Therefore life was not demonstrating he was the better player due to the fact he played 3-2 twice already. And mma never did once. Some stellar reasoning right there. Beating the better players and winning in the finals 1:4 counts for nothing. Our Blizzcon Champion is MMA! | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 09 2014 22:47 Vindicare605 wrote: Oh please people. Bomber only has the most WCS points because he played in freaking WCS America. Don't use seeding as any kind of indicator of how good each player is. Freaking Hyun had the second overall seed and he was probably the weakest player at the tournament. I think it's definitely true that Bomber ranks among the stronger players that made it to Blizzcon, but comparing the beating of him, Classic and Stardust to Zest (triple champion in Korean tournaments this year), San (statistically the best vZ in the world) and Taeja (soO who?) seems like a stretch. Bomber is definitely among the best in the world in TvT, though, I won't deny that. | ||
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mikedebo
Canada4341 Posts
I thought the finals were going to be today, rip | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
On November 09 2014 22:52 Zealously wrote: I think it's definitely true that Bomber ranks among the stronger players that made it to Blizzcon, but comparing the beating of him, Classic and Stardust to Zest (triple champion in Korean tournaments this year), San (statistically the best vZ in the world) and Taeja (soO who?) seems like a stretch. Bomber is definitely among the best in the world in TvT, though, I won't deny that. Bomber was a strong player I'm not arguing that, but his seeding isn't relevant at all to how good he is. Saying MMA had a tougher path to the final because he upset the number one seed doesn't mean a damn thing. | ||
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Deleted User 329278
123 Posts
On November 09 2014 22:07 chatuka wrote: Outcome wasn't clear though from my viewpoint. Life did not demonstrate he was better by pulling 4 all inner baneling busts. Why did mma not adjust to this simple and underwhelming tactic by life. 1. Mma had not faced a zerg yet. And life already faced a top terrain. 2. Not preparation time for either side favored life since he got to taste the strength of a top skilled terrain player. At least this is what I believe. Bomber was the most feared player here. Their is a reason he is number and to say that he isn't a top 3 player at this moment is foolish to say. My point was that mma aced a tough draw as did life. Yet mma did Mich better . there was no doubt that mma proved he was better than bomber and classic. Life did not do that vs zest and taeja. Zest or taeja were one game away from defeating life. Therefore life was not demonstrating he was the better player due to the fact he played 3-2 twice already. And mma never did once. Gotta be kidding. Terrans got their patch. Zerg HAS to all in now. And when zerg wins despite last patch, basically against the odds, well...........then it's evil brackets and not having enough preparation time that made things imba. But it can't be more skill because terrans are better players. Lmfao | ||
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Winterhearted
Ukraine28 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12507 Posts
On November 09 2014 22:07 chatuka wrote: Outcome wasn't clear though from my viewpoint. Life did not demonstrate he was better by pulling 4 all inner baneling busts. We're not looking for which player is better, we're looking for who's going to win the tournament. Being better as a state of being is boring. You can't be challenged. Winning through small edges over people who are at about the same level as you are is what makes competition interesting. There's a reason why no one would want to watch Zest vs me. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8760 Posts
On November 09 2014 23:13 Nebuchad wrote: We're not looking for which player is better, we're looking for who's going to win the tournament. Being better as a state of being is boring. You can't be challenged. Winning through small edges over people who are at about the same level as you are is what makes competition interesting. There's a reason why no one would want to watch Zest vs me. I like watching Zest running circles around anybody! | ||
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Shrinkzxo
Dotoland672 Posts
Indeed. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10163 Posts
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chatuka
1351 Posts
On November 09 2014 22:47 Cheerio wrote: so 1-4 in the finals doesn't count somehow? Well sorry for the misunderstanding. We were discussing whi was playing demonstratively better leading to the finals. Mma was playing better than life at that point. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18732 Posts
everyone is in Code B now :D | ||
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