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* = ace. Last player on team can be chosen from the entire lineup, even if the player was eliminated before.
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Poll: Head: Who do you think will win?Axiom eSports (15) 52% mousesports (14) 48% 29 total votes Your vote: Head: Who do you think will win? (Vote): mousesports (Vote): Axiom eSports
Poll: Heart: Who do you want to win?mousesports (17) 59% Axiom eSports (12) 41% 29 total votes Your vote: Heart: Who do you want to win? (Vote): mousesports (Vote): Axiom eSports
How this match shifts playoff chances (without extreme cases):
mouz When they win here, they are through. Otherwise they still need to win one of their other two matches.
Team Acer would benefit if mouz wins but they have all chances to qualify by themselves and don't need to look at this match.
mYinsanity wants mouz to win, so they can afford to lose against Acer. They would still rely on that neither Millenium nor yoeFW winning all their matches. If they win against Acer, they are through no matter what.
Axiom needs to win here and in their other match against Empire-Fnatic and hope that either mYinsanity loses against Acer or that mousesports loses all of their remaining matches. They would still rely on neither Millenium nor yoeFW winning all their matches or do so with a poor mapscore.
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Let's go Axiom! Let's make this playoff race exciting!
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Go Axiom! Hoping Acer stomp mYi as well, so Axiom have a better qualification chance.
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This is this big match. Axiom can't afford to lose this and a convincing win to improve the map differential would be really really helpful.
I think Axiom will take it, but mousesports have the potential to pull off the upset.
I'm so nervous for this.
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Go mouz! I love mousesports and mYi, so a win here would benfit both teams.
If Vortix and Starbuck are having a good day i can see a 5-3 for mouz.
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If Axiom loses this they are most likely not in the top 4. But I dont like the team anyway even if its TB.
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Not long now and I am getting so tense. Axiom are on paper the better team but mouz are definitely capable of winning if their players are on form and Axiom players aren't. It all depends, we could have a fairly comfortable 5-3 victory like last season, a complete 5-0 thrashing like season one game two, or a mousesports victory like season one game one. Of course season one mouz didn't have VortiX.
I'm hoping for another Ryung all-kill.
But yeah, very nervous. This match is so crucial, more so for Axiom than mousesports. mouz can still beat Millenium or yoe Flash Wolves to qualify if they lose this, but if Axiom lose they are out - simple as that.
Come on Axiom!!! Only half an hour to go....
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I believe in Axiom, let's go!
(Ryung all-kill gogogo)
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Ryung versus Starbuck is the first match:
Another Ryung all-kill of mouz incoming? Boy do I hope so.
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Starbuck is a fucking genius.
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I assume these games are being played on the NA server?
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On May 29 2014 23:12 SuperHofmann wrote: Starbuck is a fucking genius.
its only genius if it wins.
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Gagh not a good start. 
Starbuck prepared a nice build there.
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On May 29 2014 23:17 stuchiu wrote:its only genius if it wins. confirmed
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On May 29 2014 23:12 SuperHofmann wrote: Starbuck is a fucking genius.
I wouldn't mistake genius for Ryung being a dumbass today.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Catz tuns in his sleep as he feels another pro player use his build.
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Now follow up with nydus,
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Wonder if Alicia ever won a game in ATC.
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On May 29 2014 23:29 SuperHofmann wrote: genius part #2 ? ok, confirmed again
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I don't know why Alicia didn't play straight up.
Come on Impact, you got to turn this around.
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On May 29 2014 23:33 MosART wrote: Wonder if Alicia ever won a game in ATC.
He has, and took 2 games against Acer. But he has severely underperformed this season
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Not noticing the creep when it was basically slithering up the side of his nexus was a little strange.
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starbuck is like a version of catz that wins games :o so good
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Impact is going to kill Mouz then just look at Ryung and Alicia judgingly as if to ask why his hyungs can't win.
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Now that is a good start for Mouz! The second game was so short that i missed it, but Starbuck clearly took care of Alicia.
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On May 29 2014 23:37 Pyloss wrote: Now that is a good start for Mouz! The second game was so short that i missed it, but Starbuck clearly took care of Alicia.
Unscouted proxy hatch in the main after Alicia cannon rushed. GG.
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What, I come back from tea time and Starbuck is already going ham again. He gets better and better.
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Lol throwing da game Starbuck
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Host time! Interesting to see how this works now with the patch.
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I wonder if Starbuck realizes what a dumb place that macro hatch is in?
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And this is how a Korean beats SH.
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YESSSSS get in Impact!
Axiom right back in this.
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On May 29 2014 23:50 stuchiu wrote: And this is how a Korean beats SH. He was fighting with a 3 upgrade advantage also, and a massive lead. The locusts just tickled the roaches.
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On May 29 2014 23:51 Squat wrote:He was fighting with a 3 upgrade advantage also, and a massive lead. The locusts just tickled the roaches.
exactly, thats how a korean beats SH!
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Right now Impact don't ruin everything and lose to HasuObs. Time to get some momentum!!!
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Where are your units, hasuobs?! D:
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Reminds me of Sauron Zerg. Just trade and trade again
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Hasuobs is the protoss Goody
IT'S OK GUYS, THE 17TH REMAX SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT KILLS HIM!
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Impact is like a chef, serving one course after another to Hasuobs. Each course gets heavier in terms of Zerginess
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Bad map positions for hasu...
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Come on Impact, let's get the all kill
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Nice work Impact! Get in!!!
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That was old school July style, fucking awesome. That's how zerg is supposed to work.
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On May 30 2014 00:14 Squat wrote: That was old school July style, fucking awesome. That's how zerg is supposed to work. I hope you are joking. ~17th try to win the game with always >80supply advantage is not nice to watch. Very frustating with 20min death animation.
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On May 30 2014 00:14 Squat wrote: That was old school July style, fucking awesome. That's how zerg is supposed to work.
Exactly, none of that SH bullshit where you sit back and do nothing. That is quintessential Zerg play just then
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HeRoMaRinE took out Jaedong in ATC. He worries me. I hope Impact can make it three.
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On May 30 2014 00:17 Dingodile wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2014 00:14 Squat wrote: That was old school July style, fucking awesome. That's how zerg is supposed to work. I hope you are joking. ~17th try to win the game with always >80supply advantage is not nice to watch. Very frustating with 20min death animation.
Impact was trading to keep Hasuobs from building up a deathball, and forced Hasuobs to constantly defend and prevented him from becoming comfortable enough to expand further and move out. It wasn't necessarily a quick win, but it was a very systematic and strategic win.
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On May 30 2014 00:17 Dingodile wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2014 00:14 Squat wrote: That was old school July style, fucking awesome. That's how zerg is supposed to work. I hope you are joking. ~17th try to win the game with always >80supply advantage is not nice to watch. Very frustating with 20min death animation. Fun is subjective, who woulda thunk it. This is how zerg played in BW, this is what I identify zerg with.
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On May 30 2014 00:18 Crot4le wrote: HeRoMaRinE took out Jaedong in ATC. He worries me. I hope Impact can make it three.
Jaedong is very hit or miss. He's gone 2-8 so far in WCS events in 2014.
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2-2 is nerve wracking because a loss means that your opponent is one win away from being one win away from winning.
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JD has been a lot more miss than hit in 2014. I still cannot figure out his approach to ZvT.
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On May 30 2014 00:22 Squat wrote: JD has been a lot more miss than hit in 2014. I still cannot figure out his approach to ZvT.
I wonder if his team atmosphere is starting to affect his performance. It doesn't seem like EG cares too much about SC2 anymore, and JD doesn't have any specialized practice partners (maybe JYP). So I would guess that he primarily ladders for practice, and that could explain why he has done poorly in WCS (where the opponents are known beforehand and players have time to prepare), and weekend tournaments (where he has done better, and opponents aren't known beforehand).
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I'm fairly sure it has an effect. It's not unique to EG, but is probably symptomatic of many foreign teams in general. If JD was in a PL team I'm convinced he'd be a lot more consistent, and sharper strategically.
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On May 30 2014 00:25 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2014 00:22 Squat wrote: JD has been a lot more miss than hit in 2014. I still cannot figure out his approach to ZvT. I wonder if his team atmosphere is starting to affect his performance. It doesn't seem like EG cares too much about SC2 anymore, and JD doesn't have any specialized practice partners (maybe JYP). So I would guess that he primarily ladders for practice, and that could explain why he has done poorly in WCS (where the opponents are known beforehand and players have time to prepare), and weekend tournaments (where he has done better, and opponents aren't known beforehand).
Nah, most Koreans seem to have some kind of support network outside their teams (usually).
Taeja has San and friends. Team TSL has stuck together. And besides that Jaedong is in the unique position of being a great Zerg player that no PL/GSL player will almost ever have to play making him a good choice for zerg practice.
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On May 30 2014 00:27 Squat wrote: I'm fairly sure it has an effect. It's not unique to EG, but is probably symptomatic of many foreign teams in general. If JD was in a PL team I'm convinced he'd be a lot more consistent, and sharper strategically.
I dunno about that. The most PL has taught Flash is to cc first against Shine.
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On May 30 2014 00:21 Crot4le wrote: 2-2 is nerve wracking because a loss means that your opponent is one win away from being one win away from winning. I like this.
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YES IMPACT!!!
Axiom lead, this is great but not over yet...
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I don't think that build is very good tbh. You can't scan much since you need every mule, and Impact's creep spread meant the last battle was way into creep, no way to split there.
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Time for the mouz ace. Impact beat him to seal the victory last time the teams played.
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On May 30 2014 00:28 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2014 00:27 Squat wrote: I'm fairly sure it has an effect. It's not unique to EG, but is probably symptomatic of many foreign teams in general. If JD was in a PL team I'm convinced he'd be a lot more consistent, and sharper strategically. I dunno about that. The most PL has taught Flash is to cc first against Shine. Flash has been doing CC first since 2006, it's like forge FE or die trying. With a lot of dying.
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Ling runbys are like a stab in the back. If you try to pull it out, you can get stabbed in the front. If you don't, you don't pull it out, you pass out from the pain.
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Impact performing absolutely brilliant when it matters.
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oh god that was the highest coinflip zvz i have ever seen. both dont deserve to win/lose.
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Last time Axiom were 4-2 up they lost 5-4. But that was to INnoVation, I don't want to talk too soon but I don't think that mouz have a player than can take three wins in a row. It would be nice if Impact can just see out the all-kill though and calm my nerves once and for all (until Empire-Fnatic that is).
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On May 30 2014 00:46 Yhamm wrote: Starbuck is the ace
Well he got two kills in a row last time, can he go one more this time?
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On May 30 2014 01:00 sashkata wrote: "phone" srsly? In WoL-time, there were a ton breaks due to "phone", "door" etc :D
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On May 30 2014 00:57 Bagration wrote: It's evened out roughly
Impact is massively behind though
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On May 30 2014 01:02 Crot4le wrote:Impact is massively behind though 
Yeah, that wasn't a good roach bane attack. Impact's attacks were well defended
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On May 30 2014 01:01 Dingodile wrote:In WoL-time, there were a ton breaks due to "phone", "door" etc :D I can sort of understanding pausing if there's someone banging at your door, but a phone call is sort of silly to pause for in most situations.
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Axiom needs to grab a win here, and crush Empire Fnatic. Got to maximize that map score
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Starbuck what a funny guy
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Eh, slow roaches to waddle across the map with banshees already out, not feeling this for starbucket.
Edit: oh nydus, that makes more sense.
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On May 30 2014 01:13 Bagration wrote: NYDUS!
CANCELLED!
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Impact is only logical ace choice
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Please please please CranK, win this game.
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It would have been cool to have Impact play in the ace. Then the winner gets an all kill
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Starbuck does what Jaedong couldn't do yesterday. Plus, he moves past him in ATC individual stats.
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Well, San just all killed iG. That is bad news for all playoff teams, because that means YoeFW could still make the 7-4 match score, and they'll have a sick map score (+12 already).
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This is the first clan war this season where a team hasn't used the revive I believe.
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Interesting choice to pick a protoss on this map, we will see how it goes
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The third is very susceptible to a gateway attack, that might be the reasoning. Late game it's a very strong swarm host map.
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On May 30 2014 01:26 Bagration wrote: Well, San just all killed iG. That is bad news for all playoff teams, because that means YoeFW could still make the 7-4 match score, and they'll have a sick map score (+12 already).
That will only be an issue if mousesports beat Millenium because mouz and yoeFW have yet to play and only one can win.
But it will all be academic if CranK loses this map anyway. Come on CranK!
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On May 29 2014 23:20 stuchiu wrote: pretty genius what did he do?
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This is super all-in god I hope it works.
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Jeez Starbuck emerging as mouz's strong player in ATC?
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Holy shit that micro was god-like from CranK....c'mon c'mon c'mon
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On May 30 2014 01:32 Shellshock wrote:what did he do?
Opened with a 1 base roach burrow rush into triple hatch normal game. Though it wouldn't have worked if Ryung played the mid game right. Or sacced his reaper to scout.
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This game is something between "obviously totally over" and "weirder shit has happened before".
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On May 30 2014 01:39 SinCitta wrote: This game is something between "obviously totally over" and "weirder shit has happened before".
It's somewhere between "You're dead" and "Oh Swarmhosts"
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Woooooohoooooooo!!!!!
Yes Captain CranK!
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What a relief, Axiom still in this.
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Good showings by Starbuck and Impact, too bad mouz couldn't close it out.
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I think mouz is pretty much qualified. Acer has to play vs Liquid and mYi.
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It's not all good news though as San all-killing iG really improves their map score.
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good job, crank. that was some awesome micro
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On May 30 2014 01:47 Dingodile wrote: I think mouz is pretty much qualified. Acer has to play vs Liquid and mYi.
edit: mouz is qualified. 5th has definitely 4 losses, mouz can only have 3.
Mouz still has to play Mill and YoeFW. If they lose both, they will be at 7-4, and could be knocked out in tiebreaks if their mapscore is bad.
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On May 30 2014 01:47 Dingodile wrote: I think mouz is pretty much qualified. Acer has to play vs Liquid and mYi.
Not by a long shot. They still have to play Millenium and yoe Flash Wolves which are two really tough games still. Lose them both and they probably won't qualify.
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Big day tomorrow. Acer goes up against Liquid and mYi as well. I really hope Acer has a good day, and not a fucking disaster like the last time they scheduled two matches on the same day.
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On May 30 2014 01:55 Bagration wrote:Big day tomorrow. Acer goes up against Liquid and mYi as well. I really hope Acer has a good day, and not a fucking disaster like the last time they scheduled two matches on the same day.
Axiom really need to hope that Acer defeat mYi.
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