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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On May 29 2014 09:57 Waise wrote: getting a lot of second places is really good, i'm not even sure jaedong can do that right now in the shape he's in He got Semis at Bucharest and fell to an on fire Impact, so it doesn't really look like his form is terrible. Maybe he just does better in live settings. | ||
The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
On May 29 2014 09:54 The_Templar wrote:  Heart spawns in the top right Jim spawns in the bottom left2:00 Jim getting a gateway followed by an assimilator. Reaper opening from Heart. 3:00 Heart kills a probe and expands. Heart puts a reactor on his barracks after the first reaper. Jim expands. 4:00 Heart building an engineering bay. Heart hiding a reaper in Jim's main. +1 attack on the way for Heart. Twilight council for Jim. 5:00 Blink for Jim. Reaper gets in and sees the twilight council. Stim starts for Heart. Third barracks for Heart. | ||
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Waise
3165 Posts
On May 29 2014 09:58 Darkhorse wrote: Not really. They can hate JD because they are tired of him being so good because of how good he has been. People often hate the best. Whitera is just the nicest guy! the worst thing whitera ever did was cause rotti to tell the "zergling in my base" story 50 times in wcs casts | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On May 29 2014 09:58 Yiome wrote: lol what? never thougt there is Edison fan out there  All the stories that Bitter and Rotti had from Edison and the Chinese players were amazing, and he just seemed like a funny guy. also happy birthday! | ||
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Waise
3165 Posts
On May 29 2014 09:59 KingofdaHipHop wrote: He got Semis at Bucharest and fell to an on fire Impact, so it doesn't really look like his form is terrible. Maybe he just does better in live settings. i think he's always just good and practiced enough to do well, it's the inconsistency and fragility that bothers me, especially against protoss and sometimes midgame terran | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32761 Posts
On May 29 2014 09:59 baubo wrote: Not sure if I've ever seen Jim play something other than phoenix/colossi in non-cheese games. Need to change up his style. Also, apparently there was a huge spike in lag the moment of that final battle, which is why there were no force fields, according to the Chinese caster. Repeated what you said two minutes ago btw. | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On May 29 2014 09:47 Waise wrote: you don't have enough money to spend all the larvae on drones immediately though. protoss players act like 3hatch means you somehow instantly have 70 unpunishable drones. the thing that makes fast hatches scary is the midgame swell of units that comes if you don't do economic damage and yes, you should be able to do damage to greedy zerg if you play well, but saying "hard counter" makes it sound like you think jim 4gating jd there should be autowin for toss, which is goofy Under that particular situation, Jim having scouted Jaedong, Jaedong not scouted Jim, Jaedong playing that game as if Jim used a normal opening, yes that's a hard counter. | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On May 29 2014 10:00 KingofdaHipHop wrote: All the stories that Bitter and Rotti had from Edison and the Chinese players were amazing, and he just seemed like a funny guy. also happy birthday! Is Edison the mafia guy? | ||
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
On May 29 2014 09:56 TotalBiscuit wrote: Quit playing games with my Heart + Show Spoiler + http://giphy.com/gifs/2xIOiAPXonois User was warned for this post | ||
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Yiome
China1687 Posts
On May 29 2014 10:00 KingofdaHipHop wrote: All the stories that Bitter and Rotti had from Edison and the Chinese players were amazing, and he just seemed like a funny guy. also happy birthday! Thanks  Hope macsed or xigua can make it through | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On May 29 2014 10:00 Waise wrote: i think he's always just good and practiced enough to do well, it's the inconsistency and fragility that bothers me, especially against protoss and sometimes midgame terran True, results like that also show inconsistent he can be. | ||
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Rehio
United States1718 Posts
On May 29 2014 10:00 baubo wrote: Under that particular situation, Jim having scouted Jaedong, Jaedong not scouted Jim, Jaedong playing that game as if Jim used a normal opening, yes that's a hard counter. I don't think whether something is a Hard Counter or not can depend on scouting. If it depends on scouting, isn't it not a Hard Counter? O.o | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
On May 29 2014 09:59 The_Templar wrote: 2:00 Jim getting a gateway followed by an assimilator. Reaper opening from Heart. 3:00 Heart kills a probe and expands. Heart puts a reactor on his barracks after the first reaper. Jim expands. 4:00 Heart building an engineering bay. Heart hiding a reaper in Jim's main. +1 attack on the way for Heart. Twilight council for Jim. 5:00 Blink for Jim. Reaper gets in and sees the twilight council. Stim starts for Heart. Third barracks for Heart. 6:00 Heart is on 30 workers. Jim building 2 more gateways. Jim attempt a proxy pylon but it's denied immediately. Jim getting a robotics facility. Heart getting a bunker at his natural. 7:00  Heart 57 vs  Jim 54Jim pushing with 3 stalkers and a probe/mothership core. +1 armor for Heart. SCV sees stalkers being reinforced. 2 forges on the way for Jim. Heart scouts the main with a loose SCV and sees everything. 8:00 Heart 66 vs Jim 69Jim getting a robotics facility, dark shrine, +1/1, and a warp prism. Heart cleans up the proxies once Jim retreats. 9:00 Heart 79 vs Jim 74Heart going for an attack. Warp prism going for the natural of Heart. 10:00 Heart 87 vs Jim 85DTs being prepared but Heart has a missile turret in his natural already. Colossus and 3 more gateways for Jim. Jim's DTs do nearly nothing. 11:00 Heart 114 vs Jim 104+2/2 for Jim. Jim taking a third as Heart lands his. Extended thermal lance for Jim. | ||
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Deleted User 261926
960 Posts
On May 29 2014 09:59 KingofdaHipHop wrote: He got Semis at Bucharest and fell to an on fire Impact, so it doesn't really look like his form is terrible. Maybe he just does better in live settings. He has also won LSC pretty recently. The tournament was a IEM but it was quite stacked. | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On May 29 2014 10:03 Rehio wrote: I don't think whether something is a Hard Counter or not can depend on scouting. If it depends on scouting, isn't it not a Hard Counter? O.o You're thinking blind counter, when you do a hard counter without scouting. | ||
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Waise
3165 Posts
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On May 29 2014 10:03 Karpfen wrote: He has also won LSC pretty recently. The tournament was a IEM but it was quite stacked. Oh yeah I forgot about that, despite really enjoying myself during that one. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On May 29 2014 10:03 Rehio wrote: I don't think whether something is a Hard Counter or not can depend on scouting. If it depends on scouting, isn't it not a Hard Counter? O.o Well, if you three-hatch before pool on Akilon Wastes and then scout proxy gateways, i guess, it's hard counter still :Dp | ||
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Waise
3165 Posts
i mean i guess it's just "i don't want to deal with transfering and rallying these" but seems sloppy, i see koreans do this too | ||
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