★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
13%
★★★- Good game (8)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3)
19%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dark vs INnoVation Game 1?
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Poll: Recommend Dark vs INnoVation Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
15%
★★★- Good game (8)
62%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
15%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
8%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dark vs INnoVation Game 2?
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Poll: Recommend Dark vs INnoVation Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (4)
19%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
29%
★★★- Good game (1)
5%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
5%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (9)
43%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dark vs INnoVation Game 3?
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★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
67%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
11%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Sora vs Armani Game 1?
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Poll: Recommend Sora vs Armani Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
50%
★★★- Good game (2)
33%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Sora vs Armani Game 2?
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Poll: Recommend Sora vs Armani Game 3?
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0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
33%
★★★- Good game (1)
33%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
33%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
3 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Sora vs Armani Game 3?
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★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (3)
21%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (10)
71%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
7%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?
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Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?
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0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (4)
22%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (14)
78%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
18 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?
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Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
17%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (4)
67%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
17%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?
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★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
75%
★★★- Good game (1)
13%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
13%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1?
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Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?
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0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
86%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
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0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
14%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?
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Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?
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20%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
20%
★★★- Good game (2)
40%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
20%
5 total votes
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★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (4)
100%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1?
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Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?
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0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
25%
★★★- Good game (5)
63%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
13%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2?
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Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
33%
★★★- Good game (5)
56%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
11%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
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WCS Predictor 2014 Starts in - INnoVation is at ~ 10.93 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 65.01 % of the time INnoVation wins and their chances go up to ~ 15.44 %. ~ 34.99 % of the time INnoVation loses and their chances go down to ~ 2.56 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Dark is at ~ 0.67 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 42.20 % of the time Dark wins and their chances go up to ~ 1.38 %. ~ 57.80 % of the time Dark loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.16 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Sora is at ~ 2.94 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 54.17 % of the time Sora wins and their chances go up to ~ 4.88 %. ~ 45.83 % of the time Sora loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.65 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Armani is at ~ 0.34 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 38.62 % of the time Armani wins and their chances go up to ~ 0.76 %. ~ 61.38 % of the time Armani loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.07 %.
On April 09 2014 01:05 NovaMB wrote: Bogus and Sora.
No idea how good Sora is currently though
yeah he's kind of disappeared but I guess he did ok in the global championship qualifier. He 2-0d Dark in it as well as ByuL who has been playing well. then lost to Impact 1-2 so 5-2 PvZ seems alright and could probably be good enough form to get him through this group in 2nd
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
13%
★★★- Good game (8)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3)
19%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dark vs INnoVation Game 1?
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On April 09 2014 18:15 TheDwf wrote: This game is exactly the way I lose all the time with 4M.
yeah same for me here. It's exactly how my standard TvZ looks
Discover the power of mech.. I switched from bio recently and have great success with ForGGs 3 reaper-helion-banshee into hellbat-thor-viking-tank etc.
Dark beat the crap out of maru in the sao paulo qualifiers. Games were awesome sadly not enough Park "Dark" Ryung Woo has been cast. I have dark advancing tonight.
On April 09 2014 18:17 Rain.100 wrote: inno maybe a bit nervous? that didnt really look like him, no damage done at all with reapers and hellions or anything basically
He said in some acer interview that he didn't like how his TvZs are going atm so maybe it's part mental
On April 09 2014 18:18 Tminus____ wrote: Dark beat the crap out of maru in the sao paulo qualifiers. Games were awesome sadly not enough Park "Dark" Ryung Woo have been cast. I have dark advancing tonight.
On April 09 2014 18:18 Tminus____ wrote: Dark beat the crap out of maru in the sao paulo qualifiers. Games were awesome sadly not enough Park "Dark" Ryung Woo have been cast. I have dark advancing tonight.
On April 09 2014 18:18 Tminus____ wrote: Dark beat the crap out of maru in the sao paulo qualifiers. Games were awesome sadly not enough Park "Dark" Ryung Woo have been cast. I have dark advancing tonight.
On April 09 2014 18:25 SoulCapsule wrote: How come Inno has only 52scv at 10min with cc first and a very late lifted 3rd CC? I can reach 56 or even more by 10min.
On April 09 2014 18:25 SoulCapsule wrote: How come Inno has only 52scv at 10min with cc first and a very late lifted 3rd CC? I can reach 56 or even more by 10min.
It was a Reaper expand.
Ah my bad. But even, with perfect macro you can reach 56scv with a reaper expand. I do that when i don't fuck up things.
hm I think if Dark would have had creep-spread over there he would have held this without too much of a problem. The importance of creep-spread in this matchup has really risen a lot
On April 09 2014 18:25 SoulCapsule wrote: How come Inno has only 52scv at 10min with cc first and a very late lifted 3rd CC? I can reach 56 or even more by 10min.
It was a Reaper expand.
Ah my bad. But even, with perfect macro you can reach 56scv with a reaper expand. I do that when i don't fuck up things.
The build is tight, there are micro SCV cuts if you don't want to delay some things like Hellions + the flying time of the third CC results in some SCVs missing.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
15%
★★★- Good game (8)
62%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
15%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
8%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dark vs INnoVation Game 2?
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★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
15%
★★★- Good game (8)
62%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
15%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
8%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dark vs INnoVation Game 2?
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and with every new map ever in GSL the first thing we see is a bunch of proxy 2-rax until zergs know all the new scouting patterns for their overlords to deny this
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29%
★★★- Good game (1)
5%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
5%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (9)
43%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dark vs INnoVation Game 3?
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★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
29%
★★★- Good game (1)
5%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
5%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (9)
43%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dark vs INnoVation Game 3?
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I can't wrap my head around the fact, that even pro players STILL have such a hard time against 11/11 rax. I mean, i am a gold player, i lose to that shit because i am bad at the game, which is okay.
But on a pro level this should be figured out! It should be known, which is the exact best number of drones to pull, it should be known whether it is beneficial to build a spine or not, the number of lings etc etc.
Whenever i see pro Zergs face a 11/11 proxy rax, they still seem to be completely doing some panic impromptu stuff, though it should be autopilot-i-know-what-to-do mode.
On April 09 2014 18:41 reapsen wrote: I can't wrap my head around the fact, that even pro players STILL have such a hard time against 11/11 rax. I mean, i am a gold player, i lose to that shit because i am bad at the game, which is okay.
But on a pro level this should be figured out! It should be known, which is the exact best number of drones to pull, it should be known whether it is beneficial to build a spine or not, the number of lings etc etc.
Whenever i see pro Zergs face a 11/11 proxy rax, they still seem to be completely doing some panic impromptu stuff, though it should be autopilot-i-know-what-to-do mode.
If it means anything, I cannot think of the last time that curious lost to 11/11
On April 09 2014 18:41 reapsen wrote: I can't wrap my head around the fact, that even pro players STILL have such a hard time against 11/11 rax. I mean, i am a gold player, i lose to that shit because i am bad at the game, which is okay.
But on a pro level this should be figured out! It should be known, which is the exact best number of drones to pull, it should be known whether it is beneficial to build a spine or not, the number of lings etc etc.
Whenever i see pro Zergs face a 11/11 proxy rax, they still seem to be completely doing some panic impromptu stuff, though it should be autopilot-i-know-what-to-do mode.
As someone above mentioned, Innovation's bunker was placed so far away that pulling drones is always a big commitment. And in that situation you can't pull like 5-6, you need a lot more to stop that bunker from finishing.
It is very hard to hit that sweet spot to defend it. Also, that build existed since beginning of SC2 but it is not so common anymore and that is probably one more reason it works so good when you see it and when terran knows how to do it right.
On April 09 2014 18:41 reapsen wrote: I can't wrap my head around the fact, that even pro players STILL have such a hard time against 11/11 rax. I mean, i am a gold player, i lose to that shit because i am bad at the game, which is okay.
But on a pro level this should be figured out! It should be known, which is the exact best number of drones to pull, it should be known whether it is beneficial to build a spine or not, the number of lings etc etc.
Whenever i see pro Zergs face a 11/11 proxy rax, they still seem to be completely doing some panic impromptu stuff, though it should be autopilot-i-know-what-to-do mode.
it's up to on-the-fly decision making and micro as well (do you focus the bunker or chase the marines, do you build spines and stay back or try to chase him etc.) and even though it is a pro player Zerg trying to defend it is also a pro player Terran on the attacking side who also knows this stuff and has amazing micro and split-second decision making.
Come on Armani, we are ready to see 2 long Swarm Host games where you slowly chip away your opponent do death. And then 2 more Swarm Host games against Innovation's Mech. DO EEEEET!
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67%
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0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
11%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Sora vs Armani Game 1?
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On April 09 2014 18:41 reapsen wrote: I can't wrap my head around the fact, that even pro players STILL have such a hard time against 11/11 rax. I mean, i am a gold player, i lose to that shit because i am bad at the game, which is okay.
But on a pro level this should be figured out! It should be known, which is the exact best number of drones to pull, it should be known whether it is beneficial to build a spine or not, the number of lings etc etc.
Whenever i see pro Zergs face a 11/11 proxy rax, they still seem to be completely doing some panic impromptu stuff, though it should be autopilot-i-know-what-to-do mode.
As someone above mentioned, Innovation's bunker was placed so far away that pulling drones is always a big commitment. And in that situation you can't pull like 5-6, you need a lot more to stop that bunker from finishing.
It is very hard to hit that sweet spot to defend it. Also, that build existed since beginning of SC2 but it is not so common anymore and that is probably one more reason it works so good when you see it and when terran knows how to do it right.
As i recall those korean pro's practice machines... i am sure it would be no problem at all to ask a fellow terran teammate for 20 (hell why not 50) games in a row with proxy 11/11 rax with different variations (bunker very close to the hatch, then further away etc.)
Especially because 11/11 has been around since the beginning of sc2 it should not work as well as it still does. Especially that there is no "standard optimal response" boggles my mind.
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67%
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0%
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0%
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11%
9 total votes
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On April 09 2014 18:51 NovaMB wrote: I always feel sad that a building can stop an all-in, but they I realise that Protoss cant even get enough units out by that point, so they need it
On April 09 2014 18:51 Shellshock wrote: when was the last time this worked?
when 4gate was considered to be an awesome, in-depth thought-out strategy was funny to watch defenses develop though, cannon, sentry, msc, oracle - pretty lol, considering that this is pretty normal in protoss' arsenal vs. z
On April 09 2014 18:51 NovaMB wrote: I always feel sad that a building can stop an all-in, but they I realise that Protoss cant even get enough units out by that point, so they need it
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50%
★★★- Good game (2)
33%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
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Poll: Recommend Sora vs Armani Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
33%
★★★- Good game (1)
33%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
33%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
3 total votes
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On April 09 2014 19:22 GumBa wrote: Are gom recruiting casters again?
still not sure what is up with Khaldor. Is he still with Gom now or is he not?
Khaldor is going back to Europe
yeah but why? I thought he really loved living in Korea. I don't think there's any drama behind it, I'm just curious as I recall him saying the he likes living in Korea several times.
On April 09 2014 19:22 GumBa wrote: Are gom recruiting casters again?
still not sure what is up with Khaldor. Is he still with Gom now or is he not?
Khaldor is going back to Europe
yeah but why? I thought he really loved living in Korea. I don't think there's any drama behind it, I'm just curious as I recall him saying the he likes living in Korea several times.
He said he liked living there, but he wouldn't want to live there his entire life or something along those lines
somehow I really like the style of Merry go round. The middle has an interesting layout. The name of that map sucks though. Can we just call it 'Merry' for now?
On April 09 2014 19:33 BlackCompany wrote: Hey party-people, cant watch atm, but do code A vods go on Youtube? Or are they behind pay-wall just like Code S?
On April 09 2014 19:33 BlackCompany wrote: Hey party-people, cant watch atm, but do code A vods go on Youtube? Or are they behind pay-wall just like Code S?
paywall iirc
GOM uploads their vods for free 2 weeks after matches though. Paywall is only for watching videos before that.
On April 09 2014 19:34 Yello wrote: somehow I really like the style of Merry go round. The middle has an interesting layout. The name of that map sucks though. Can we just call it 'Merry' for now?
On April 09 2014 19:34 Yello wrote: somehow I really like the style of Merry go round. The middle has an interesting layout. The name of that map sucks though. Can we just call it 'Merry' for now?
On April 09 2014 19:34 Yello wrote: somehow I really like the style of Merry go round. The middle has an interesting layout. The name of that map sucks though. Can we just call it 'Merry' for now?
On April 09 2014 19:34 Yello wrote: somehow I really like the style of Merry go round. The middle has an interesting layout. The name of that map sucks though. Can we just call it 'Merry' for now?
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (3)
21%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (10)
71%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
7%
14 total votes
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★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (3)
21%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (10)
71%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
7%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?
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On April 09 2014 19:42 boxerfred wrote: No way for innovation to lose this match. Such a late scouted third.
It was actually way closer than it should have been. Without that great engage and snipe on the 4th Sora would start pumping tempests out as well and it would be anyone's game, despite Sora saturating his 3rd around 18 minutes in the game against a fast third for terran....
On April 09 2014 19:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Woot Bogus! \o/
Whenever I see someone use someone's handle that they've not used for years, I think "wow, this guy is so cool and retro, I wish I was like him"
Not passive aggressive or condescending at all.
I've always called him Bogus though so deal with it.
Bogus was a god tier handle, thats why its nice to use. Innovation sounds so silly and pretentious...
It was nice. Innovation's not exactly stupid either (like some of the other new ones... z_z) but eh, tryhard hipsters gotta have something to complain about I guess.
On April 09 2014 19:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Woot Bogus! \o/
Whenever I see someone use someone's handle that they've not used for years, I think "wow, this guy is so cool and retro, I wish I was like him"
Not passive aggressive or condescending at all.
I've always called him Bogus though so deal with it.
It's like me telling someone that my name is Andrew and they relentlessly call me Andy, despite me telling them I prefer Andrew.
I am dealing with it, I was merely expressing my admiration for you, no need to get upset.
Don't think any of these pros ever explicitly objected to being called their previous names. In fact they wouldn't because they don't give a shit about random internet forums. Maybe you should take a page out of their book, rather than being an edgy counter-culture hero.
On April 09 2014 19:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Woot Bogus! \o/
Whenever I see someone use someone's handle that they've not used for years, I think "wow, this guy is so cool and retro, I wish I was like him"
Not passive aggressive or condescending at all.
I've always called him Bogus though so deal with it.
I as ultimate bogus fan (yes I liked him in bw as well) decree Bogus and INnoVation to be used
I'm not cool or retro and I call him Bogus. It's just a way cooler and far more fitting ID.
Also he was Bogus for a very short period in sc2, so I just went with it.
Innovation is too tryhard, and he isn't very innovative.
yeah, Innovation is one of the most inappropriate handles in SC2. He's the opposite of innovative, he's probably the most standard terran player in SC2.
On April 09 2014 19:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Woot Bogus! \o/
Whenever I see someone use someone's handle that they've not used for years, I think "wow, this guy is so cool and retro, I wish I was like him"
Not passive aggressive or condescending at all.
I've always called him Bogus though so deal with it.
It's like me telling someone that my name is Andrew and they relentlessly call me Andy, despite me telling them I prefer Andrew.
I am dealing with it, I was merely expressing my admiration for you, no need to get upset.
Don't think any of these pros ever explicitly objected to being called their previous names. In fact they wouldn't because they don't give a shit about random internet forums. Maybe you should take a page out of their book, rather than being an edgy counter-culture hero.
I'm merely flattered that you'd think to describe me as an "edgy counter-culture hero", whatever that means. Thank you.
On April 09 2014 19:33 BlackCompany wrote: Hey party-people, cant watch atm, but do code A vods go on Youtube? Or are they behind pay-wall just like Code S?
paywall iirc
GOM uploads their vods for free 2 weeks after matches though. Paywall is only for watching videos before that.
On April 09 2014 19:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Woot Bogus! \o/
Whenever I see someone use someone's handle that they've not used for years, I think "wow, this guy is so cool and retro, I wish I was like him"
Not passive aggressive or condescending at all.
I've always called him Bogus though so deal with it.
I as ultimate bogus fan (yes I liked him in bw as well) decree Bogus and INnoVation to be used
I'm not cool or retro and I call him Bogus. It's just a way cooler and far more fitting ID.
Also he was Bogus for a very short period in sc2, so I just went with it.
Innovation is too tryhard, and he isn't very innovative.
yeah, Innovation is one of the most inappropriate handles in SC2. He's the opposite of innovative, he's probably the most standard terran player in SC2.
Well, he did change his ID. That´s gotta count for something.
On April 09 2014 19:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Woot Bogus! \o/
Whenever I see someone use someone's handle that they've not used for years, I think "wow, this guy is so cool and retro, I wish I was like him"
Not passive aggressive or condescending at all.
I've always called him Bogus though so deal with it.
It's like me telling someone that my name is Andrew and they relentlessly call me Andy, despite me telling them I prefer Andrew.
I am dealing with it, I was merely expressing my admiration for you, no need to get upset.
Don't think any of these pros ever explicitly objected to being called their previous names. In fact they wouldn't because they don't give a shit about random internet forums. Maybe you should take a page out of their book, rather than being an edgy counter-culture hero.
I'm merely flattered that you'd think to describe me as an "edgy counter-culture hero", whatever that means. Thank you.
I'm new to the internet and never saw this attempt at trolling by politeness and sarcasm before.
Oh wait.
Give it a rest genius, find something better to do with your life than provoking random internet posters for no good reason other than them having a different opinion than you. Especially when this whole thing is based on an incorrect assumption of my reasoning by you.
On April 09 2014 19:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Woot Bogus! \o/
Whenever I see someone use someone's handle that they've not used for years, I think "wow, this guy is so cool and retro, I wish I was like him"
Not passive aggressive or condescending at all.
I've always called him Bogus though so deal with it.
It's like me telling someone that my name is Andrew and they relentlessly call me Andy, despite me telling them I prefer Andrew.
I am dealing with it, I was merely expressing my admiration for you, no need to get upset.
Don't think any of these pros ever explicitly objected to being called their previous names. In fact they wouldn't because they don't give a shit about random internet forums. Maybe you should take a page out of their book, rather than being an edgy counter-culture hero.
I'm merely flattered that you'd think to describe me as an "edgy counter-culture hero", whatever that means. Thank you.
Innovation's been too strong a player for too long. I think he has this second set. In the last game sora suffered from poor econ and Innovation's timings. It seems to be shaping up that way this game too, though at least Sora's third is significantly faster.
On April 09 2014 19:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Woot Bogus! \o/
Whenever I see someone use someone's handle that they've not used for years, I think "wow, this guy is so cool and retro, I wish I was like him"
Not passive aggressive or condescending at all.
I've always called him Bogus though so deal with it.
It's like me telling someone that my name is Andrew and they relentlessly call me Andy, despite me telling them I prefer Andrew.
I am dealing with it, I was merely expressing my admiration for you, no need to get upset.
Don't think any of these pros ever explicitly objected to being called their previous names. In fact they wouldn't because they don't give a shit about random internet forums. Maybe you should take a page out of their book, rather than being an edgy counter-culture hero.
I'm merely flattered that you'd think to describe me as an "edgy counter-culture hero", whatever that means. Thank you.
I'm new to the internet and never saw this attempt at trolling by politeness and sarcasm before.
Oh wait.
Give it a rest genius, find something better to do with your life than provoking random internet posters for no good reason other than them having a different opinion than you. Especially when this whole thing is based on an incorrect assumption of my reasoning by you.
I'll probably stop when you stop responding to me in such a fashion. Have you learnt nothing? I'm eating lunch at work watching Code A, I literally don't have anything better to do right now...
Although as I'm now a genius too, I may have to retire to pursue some intellectual pursuit or something
On April 09 2014 19:53 NovaMB wrote: I wish GOM would change their observer UI, or atleast remove the teamcoloured bars in the production tab, cant see shit
I wish I could see supply numbers better behind the stupid twitch logo :<
On April 09 2014 19:53 NovaMB wrote: I wish GOM would change their observer UI, or atleast remove the teamcoloured bars in the production tab, cant see shit
I wish I could see supply numbers better behind the stupid twitch logo :<
Thats only on the embedded stream. but twitch should change that
On April 09 2014 19:55 Yello wrote: wtf WOLF stop analyzing when a big, probably game-deciding fight is happening! They are casting this as if it was the most boring game ever
has such a fight happened yet? they're just sparring right now as I see it.
On April 09 2014 19:53 NovaMB wrote: I wish GOM would change their observer UI, or atleast remove the teamcoloured bars in the production tab, cant see shit
I wish I could see supply numbers better behind the stupid twitch logo :<
Thats only on the embedded stream. but twitch should change that
I never watch things on twitch directly, apparently, so I didn't know that. Thanks lol :d
On April 09 2014 19:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Woot Bogus! \o/
Whenever I see someone use someone's handle that they've not used for years, I think "wow, this guy is so cool and retro, I wish I was like him"
Not passive aggressive or condescending at all.
I've always called him Bogus though so deal with it.
It's like me telling someone that my name is Andrew and they relentlessly call me Andy, despite me telling them I prefer Andrew.
I am dealing with it, I was merely expressing my admiration for you, no need to get upset.
Don't think any of these pros ever explicitly objected to being called their previous names. In fact they wouldn't because they don't give a shit about random internet forums. Maybe you should take a page out of their book, rather than being an edgy counter-culture hero.
I'm merely flattered that you'd think to describe me as an "edgy counter-culture hero", whatever that means. Thank you.
I'm new to the internet and never saw this attempt at trolling by politeness and sarcasm before.
Oh wait.
Give it a rest genius, find something better to do with your life than provoking random internet posters for no good reason other than them having a different opinion than you. Especially when this whole thing is based on an incorrect assumption of my reasoning by you.
I'll probably stop when you stop responding to me in such a fashion. Have you learnt nothing? I'm eating lunch at work watching Code A, I literally don't have anything better to do right now...
Although as I'm now a genius too, I may have to retire to pursue some intellectual pursuit or something
The fact that you started such a thing to begin with, over such an irrelevant detail and with the unwarranted air of being condescending as if you held some sort of perceived moral high ground says a lot about your personality.
But hey, it's easier to play the part of a pathetic troll fishing for responses than be a man and admit "you know what, this was dumb, I have no idea who you are and how you think, let's stop".
everytime i see a TvP that goes up to 3/4/5 bases the protoss spreads observers around the map and i always think "goddamn he sees the army all the time....
why do terranes not keep a raven with their main army? doesn't the economy allow for that at that stage? or is there no time to get one?
On April 09 2014 20:02 Disarmed wrote: (imagine Dwight's voice from The Office)
QUESTION!
everytime i see a TvP that goes up to 3/4/5 bases the protoss spreads observers around the map and i always think "goddamn he sees the army all the time....
why do terranes not keep a raven with their main army? doesn't the economy allow for that at that stage? or is there no time to get one?
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On April 09 2014 20:06 Incognoto wrote: By the way, getting out of the groups means you go to Code S, right?
Yeah, there is no longer that Code A format we used to watch back in the days. Now it is just a qualifier for Code S basically. First 2 of each group advance to Code S, other two fall to Code B hell.
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Very good engagement by Innovation. The 18 Ghosts were a very sick addition, and the Vikings absolutely pillaged everything in the air. Chicken tikka rekt. good game.
On April 09 2014 20:06 Incognoto wrote: By the way, getting out of the groups means you go to Code S, right?
Yeah, there is no longer that Code A format we used to watch back in the days. Now it is just a qualifier for Code S basically. First 2 of each group advance to Code S, other two fall to Code B hell.
Code B hell isn't as hard to get out of... its a few really good guys against a bunch of no namers usually.
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On April 09 2014 20:18 Lorning wrote: What a stomp
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On April 09 2014 20:18 Lorning wrote: What a stomp
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On April 09 2014 20:18 Lorning wrote: What a stomp
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1?
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Hurray the worst matchup in Sc2 is over. As the roaches a-moved into each other, Dark had a few more than Armani, and hence won the game. Oh what brilliance!
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On April 09 2014 20:36 Paljas wrote: mabye it was because he played vs Bravo and flash
I don't think, that is the reason. As much as I like trash talking Flash against annoying KT fans, he is still better than some of the people Armani lost to in online cups lately (Basior, EroSennin for example). I'd just assume Armani is heavily affected by his daily form.
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I don't mind dark bringing back a build that was figured out in early hots -- you never know when you can catch someone off guard and discover they've forgotten how to stop an old build (I still hope for the return of 1/1/1)
On April 09 2014 21:07 Waxangel wrote: I don't mind dark bringing back a build that was figured out in early hots -- you never know when you can catch someone off guard and discover they've forgotten how to stop an old build (I still hope for the return of 1/1/1)
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Why did Sora engage? He saw the army when it was killing his gateways. He was sure he could not engage then, why did he engage in a location which was marginally better.
On April 09 2014 21:45 bo1b wrote: Looks like rain was right, terrans are hitting infestor/broodlord levels of broken
Time to increase bunker build-time.
Unlikely, they never increase it past 40seconds: - Started with 40seconds in WoL beta. - Build time decreased from 40 seconds to 30 seconds. - Bunker build time increased from 30 to 40. - Bunker build time decreased from 40 seconds to 30 seconds. - Build time increased from 30 to 35. - Build time increased from 35 to 40.
Makes one wonder why they didn't decrease it to 30 with the last Terran buffs. So they could finally increase it again.
EPT
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GO INNOVATION!!!
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knew something could get you to come outü
