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On March 06 2014 22:33 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:29 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:26 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:24 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:22 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:21 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:19 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:18 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:17 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:16 Frex wrote:
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That would be the most absurd thing ever. The guy that most people did not even expect to make it out of Code A this season ends up being the champion. why not, Innovation started his career as a underrated ladder#1 too Innovation was basically the ace for STX Soul and a rising star when BW ended so I'm not sure what you are talking about lol. BW results or career don't matter a lot in SC2... Ask Stork, Bisu or Flash lol You realize Stork and Bisu and even Flash are old veterans whose primes were PAST in BW right? Stork fell out sharply by 2012, Bisu was slightly slower, Flash was falling off the best player chart at the end too. What dominates now are the up and comers (soulkey, dear, bogus, zest, etc). Just compare Zero with Soulkey, Zero was the Ace and slowly falling, Soulkey was the new and comer. Same with STX and Dear + Bogus. Same with SKT with Rain, etc. Ok, you are right. I forgot Jangbi and Fantasy are the big guns in SC2 Jangbi is same time period as Stork, and he RETIRED after getting a Code S spot. Both of them spent much more time on BW than the rest of the group because they were in the last BW OSL. Well... I said BW doesn't matter for SC2, I gave you examples. You told me those examples are wrong because they were of the PAST. Then I give you examples of the best BW players at the end of BW and now the problem is they were too RECENT? I am sorry, so maybe I am right and BW results dont matter in SC2?  Good job zero reading comprehension. I'm saying their careers translated to SC2. BW players who were up and comers generally did really well going into SC2, BW players who were already veterans and naturally were falling off didn't do so well or retired. Esports players have life spans, that's just the way of it. Boxer / July retired even earlier. You are full of contradictions thats what you are... Zest wasn't an up and comer. Neither was herO. Soulkey, Rain were as old of players as hydra. Sora left, Killer left. As many veterans as up and comers left SC2. BW != SC2
It's not a perfect algorithm but obviously players who were upcomers yet to reach their full potential either due to lack of a solid environment or age or experience would eventually over take the veterans who are getting older and mechanically less competitive. How is this difficult to understand. There are exceptions in some specific cases like Jaedong but they are few and far between.
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Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (1) 6% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★ - Good game (2) 12% ★★ - Only if you have nothing better to do (7) 41% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (7) 41% 17 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year
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"That's the kind of epic build I love" hmm..
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France9034 Posts
On March 06 2014 22:35 Ragnarork wrote: GSL Code S Ro 16 Group A Final Match 0:00 - Zest spawns at the top right - Dear spawns at the bottom left - double gas for dear, one for zest - Gate, cycore, usual stuff
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- Zest adds two more gates and moves across the map
- Zest drops a pylon just outside Dear's main and tries to poke
- Dear MSC falls ! Probes pulled for dear !
- Too much stalkers, Dear loses his army and Ggs,  Zest takes game 2 !
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On March 06 2014 22:37 Disarmed wrote:
maru vs dear sounds awesome from what i read....couldnt watch it though..
anychance for vods without subscribing? sorry if it sounds dumb or if it was asked like a million times.....
Nah, sadly you can watch only first game of each series on their Youtube channel. But still, Maru vs. Dear and Maru vs. Zest, both first games were great so you should definitely watch them.
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On March 06 2014 22:37 Penev wrote:
"That's the kind of epic build I love" hmm..
Honestly, what do you expect from Wolf?
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10gate 3 gate most epic build ever, YEOP
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How PvP looks without nexus cannon. Well designed!
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On March 06 2014 22:37 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:33 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:29 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:26 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:24 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:22 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:21 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:19 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:18 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:17 sharkie wrote:
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why not, Innovation started his career as a underrated ladder#1 too Innovation was basically the ace for STX Soul and a rising star when BW ended so I'm not sure what you are talking about lol. BW results or career don't matter a lot in SC2... Ask Stork, Bisu or Flash lol You realize Stork and Bisu and even Flash are old veterans whose primes were PAST in BW right? Stork fell out sharply by 2012, Bisu was slightly slower, Flash was falling off the best player chart at the end too. What dominates now are the up and comers (soulkey, dear, bogus, zest, etc). Just compare Zero with Soulkey, Zero was the Ace and slowly falling, Soulkey was the new and comer. Same with STX and Dear + Bogus. Same with SKT with Rain, etc. Ok, you are right. I forgot Jangbi and Fantasy are the big guns in SC2 Jangbi is same time period as Stork, and he RETIRED after getting a Code S spot. Both of them spent much more time on BW than the rest of the group because they were in the last BW OSL. Well... I said BW doesn't matter for SC2, I gave you examples. You told me those examples are wrong because they were of the PAST. Then I give you examples of the best BW players at the end of BW and now the problem is they were too RECENT? I am sorry, so maybe I am right and BW results dont matter in SC2? Good job zero reading comprehension. I'm saying their careers translated to SC2. BW players who were up and comers generally did really well going into SC2, BW players who were already veterans and naturally were falling off didn't do so well or retired. Esports players have life spans, that's just the way of it. Boxer / July retired even earlier. You are full of contradictions thats what you are... Zest wasn't an up and comer. Neither was herO. Soulkey, Rain were as old of players as hydra. Sora left, Killer left. As many veterans as up and comers left SC2. BW != SC2 It's not a perfect algorithm but obviously players who were upcomers yet to reach their full potential either due to lack of a solid environment or age or experience would eventually over take the veterans who are getting older and mechanically less competitive. How is this difficult to understand. There are exceptions in some specific cases like Jaedong but they are few and far between.
Is it that hard to admit that the link between the two games is not as strong as you imply?
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On March 06 2014 22:35 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:33 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:29 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:26 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:24 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:22 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:21 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:19 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:18 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:17 sharkie wrote:
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why not, Innovation started his career as a underrated ladder#1 too Innovation was basically the ace for STX Soul and a rising star when BW ended so I'm not sure what you are talking about lol. BW results or career don't matter a lot in SC2... Ask Stork, Bisu or Flash lol You realize Stork and Bisu and even Flash are old veterans whose primes were PAST in BW right? Stork fell out sharply by 2012, Bisu was slightly slower, Flash was falling off the best player chart at the end too. What dominates now are the up and comers (soulkey, dear, bogus, zest, etc). Just compare Zero with Soulkey, Zero was the Ace and slowly falling, Soulkey was the new and comer. Same with STX and Dear + Bogus. Same with SKT with Rain, etc. Ok, you are right. I forgot Jangbi and Fantasy are the big guns in SC2 Jangbi is same time period as Stork, and he RETIRED after getting a Code S spot. Both of them spent much more time on BW than the rest of the group because they were in the last BW OSL. Well... I said BW doesn't matter for SC2, I gave you examples. You told me those examples are wrong because they were of the PAST. Then I give you examples of the best BW players at the end of BW and now the problem is they were too RECENT? I am sorry, so maybe I am right and BW results dont matter in SC2? Good job zero reading comprehension. I'm saying their careers translated to SC2. BW players who were up and comers generally did really well going into SC2, BW players who were already veterans and naturally were falling off didn't do so well or retired. Esports players have life spans, that's just the way of it. Boxer / July retired even earlier. You are full of contradictions thats what you are... Zest wasn't an up and comer. Neither was herO. Soulkey, Rain were as old of players as hydra. Sora left, Killer left. As many veterans as up and comers left SC2. BW != SC2 confirmed for 0 reading comprehension
why?
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On March 06 2014 22:38 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:37 Penev wrote:
"That's the kind of epic build I love" hmm.. Honestly, what do you expect from Wolf?
"41 probes vs 31 drones, thats over double" was my favourite quote from tonight! hahaha
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On March 06 2014 22:36 VisonKai wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:35 Zealously wrote:On March 06 2014 22:34 VisonKai wrote:
So wait, if Maru gets out first in his group he's against Life...
The match I was hoping for in the finals is in the ro8. :X
It's an easy pass to the Ro4 though Fair enough, but then he'll have to face a Protoss that's actually good in the ro4. LifevP....
soO, Bbyong, Squirtle are the three players we can hope for him to face when he gets past Maru, whereas the other players will prove tougher opponents. At least San isn't in GSL.
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On March 06 2014 22:38 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:37 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:33 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:29 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:26 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:24 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:22 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:21 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:19 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:18 Caihead wrote:
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Innovation was basically the ace for STX Soul and a rising star when BW ended so I'm not sure what you are talking about lol. BW results or career don't matter a lot in SC2... Ask Stork, Bisu or Flash lol You realize Stork and Bisu and even Flash are old veterans whose primes were PAST in BW right? Stork fell out sharply by 2012, Bisu was slightly slower, Flash was falling off the best player chart at the end too. What dominates now are the up and comers (soulkey, dear, bogus, zest, etc). Just compare Zero with Soulkey, Zero was the Ace and slowly falling, Soulkey was the new and comer. Same with STX and Dear + Bogus. Same with SKT with Rain, etc. Ok, you are right. I forgot Jangbi and Fantasy are the big guns in SC2 Jangbi is same time period as Stork, and he RETIRED after getting a Code S spot. Both of them spent much more time on BW than the rest of the group because they were in the last BW OSL. Well... I said BW doesn't matter for SC2, I gave you examples. You told me those examples are wrong because they were of the PAST. Then I give you examples of the best BW players at the end of BW and now the problem is they were too RECENT? I am sorry, so maybe I am right and BW results dont matter in SC2? Good job zero reading comprehension. I'm saying their careers translated to SC2. BW players who were up and comers generally did really well going into SC2, BW players who were already veterans and naturally were falling off didn't do so well or retired. Esports players have life spans, that's just the way of it. Boxer / July retired even earlier. You are full of contradictions thats what you are... Zest wasn't an up and comer. Neither was herO. Soulkey, Rain were as old of players as hydra. Sora left, Killer left. As many veterans as up and comers left SC2. BW != SC2 It's not a perfect algorithm but obviously players who were upcomers yet to reach their full potential either due to lack of a solid environment or age or experience would eventually over take the veterans who are getting older and mechanically less competitive. How is this difficult to understand. There are exceptions in some specific cases like Jaedong but they are few and far between. Is it that hard to admit that the link between the two games is not as strong as you imply?
Is it that hard to admit that there is some correlation of PLAYER CAREER that isn't based on whether or not one game is better than the other?
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