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France9034 Posts
On March 06 2014 22:24 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:22 Ragnarork wrote: GSL Code S Ro 16 Group A Final Match 0:00 - Zest spawns at the top right - Dear spawns at the bottom right 2:00 - Gate for both players - Zest with a slightly earlier gas - 2 gases for Dear, some imba protoss tech coming up - Core for both - Stargate for Zest - Stargate for Dear
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- Phoenix production starting for Zest
- Dear taking his second nexus
- Robotic for Zest
- Zest phoenix scouts Dear's base
- Nexus for Zest
- Phoenixes poking each other
- A poor zealot lifted by zest phoenixes and mercilessly killed
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On March 06 2014 22:25 Nebuchad wrote:
Hey Wolf, it had been a while since I had heard the 'terrans are superior human beings' talk.
I did NOT miss it.
Yeah. What sort of marines stand still when not being commanded and don't auto-split against banelings? Clearly mentally deficient human beings.
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United States97277 Posts
On March 06 2014 22:26 Faruko wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:18 Shellshock wrote:
Bbyong vs Life finals with Bbyong reverse sweeping from the 0-3 deficit Some people just wanna watch the world burn
wouldn't be my ideal result for the season but it would be pretty funny to see
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United States97277 Posts
On March 06 2014 22:27 Pangpootata wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:25 Nebuchad wrote:
Hey Wolf, it had been a while since I had heard the 'terrans are superior human beings' talk.
I did NOT miss it. Yeah. What sort of marines stand still when not being commanded and don't auto-split against banelings? Clearly mentally deficient human beings.
what sort of army enters a war zone completely unprepared? All the races are pretty fail
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On March 06 2014 22:26 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:25 bo1b wrote:On March 06 2014 22:24 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:22 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:21 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:19 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:18 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:17 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:16 Frex wrote:On March 06 2014 22:11 Qwerty85 wrote:
2014, the year of upsets.
Bbyong could actually be GSL champion. That would be the most absurd thing ever. The guy that most people did not even expect to make it out of Code A this season ends up being the champion. why not, Innovation started his career as a underrated ladder#1 too Innovation was basically the ace for STX Soul and a rising star when BW ended so I'm not sure what you are talking about lol. BW results or career don't matter a lot in SC2... Ask Stork, Bisu or Flash lol You realize Stork and Bisu and even Flash are old veterans whose primes were PAST in BW right? Stork fell out sharply by 2012, Bisu was slightly slower, Flash was falling off the best player chart at the end too. What dominates now are the up and comers (soulkey, dear, bogus, zest, etc). Just compare Zero with Soulkey, Zero was the Ace and slowly falling, Soulkey was the new and comer. Same with STX and Dear + Bogus. Same with SKT with Rain, etc. Ok, you are right. I forgot Jangbi and Fantasy are the big guns in SC2 Jangbi is same time period as Stork, and he RETIRED after getting a Code S spot. Both of them spent much more time on BW than the rest of the group because they were in the last BW OSL. Jangbi won the last two osl's, you can't possibly imply that he was dropping off Can you read? He retired, he looked fucking great qualifying for Code S.
You straight up said he was from the same generation of stork, right after saying that generation of player was falling off. And looking anything less then almost unbeatable isn't good enough if you're making the comparison of best bw players = best sc2 players.
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On March 06 2014 22:27 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:26 Faruko wrote:On March 06 2014 22:18 Shellshock wrote:
Bbyong vs Life finals with Bbyong reverse sweeping from the 0-3 deficit Some people just wanna watch the world burn wouldn't be my ideal result for the season but it would be pretty funny to see
Well, a Terran IS needed to replace Jjakji in the league of irrelevant gsl champs along with Seed and Sniper.
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France9034 Posts
On March 06 2014 22:27 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:24 Ragnarork wrote:On March 06 2014 22:22 Ragnarork wrote: GSL Code S Ro 16 Group A Final Match 0:00 - Zest spawns at the top right - Dear spawns at the bottom right 2:00 - Gate for both players - Zest with a slightly earlier gas - 2 gases for Dear, some imba protoss tech coming up - Core for both - Stargate for Zest - Stargate for Dear 5:00 - Phoenix production starting for Zest - Dear taking his second nexus - Robotic for Zest - Zest phoenix scouts Dear's base - Nexus for Zest - Phoenixes poking each other - A poor zealot lifted by zest phoenixes and mercilessly killed
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- Fleet beacon for Zest ! Carriers maybe ?
- Little phoenixes skirmish at zest natural, nexus cannon repels Dear
- Phoenix range for Zest
- Twilight + forge for Dear, + 1 attack and blink immediately started
- Dear still doesn't know for the beacon
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On March 06 2014 22:26 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:24 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:22 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:21 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:19 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:18 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:17 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:16 Frex wrote:On March 06 2014 22:11 Qwerty85 wrote:
2014, the year of upsets.
Bbyong could actually be GSL champion. That would be the most absurd thing ever. The guy that most people did not even expect to make it out of Code A this season ends up being the champion. why not, Innovation started his career as a underrated ladder#1 too Innovation was basically the ace for STX Soul and a rising star when BW ended so I'm not sure what you are talking about lol. BW results or career don't matter a lot in SC2... Ask Stork, Bisu or Flash lol You realize Stork and Bisu and even Flash are old veterans whose primes were PAST in BW right? Stork fell out sharply by 2012, Bisu was slightly slower, Flash was falling off the best player chart at the end too. What dominates now are the up and comers (soulkey, dear, bogus, zest, etc). Just compare Zero with Soulkey, Zero was the Ace and slowly falling, Soulkey was the new and comer. Same with STX and Dear + Bogus. Same with SKT with Rain, etc. Ok, you are right. I forgot Jangbi and Fantasy are the big guns in SC2 Jangbi is same time period as Stork, and he RETIRED after getting a Code S spot. Both of them spent much more time on BW than the rest of the group because they were in the last BW OSL. Well... I said BW doesn't matter for SC2, I gave you examples. You told me those examples are wrong because they were of the PAST. Then I give you examples of the best BW players at the end of BW and now the problem is they were too RECENT? I am sorry, so maybe I am right and BW results dont matter in SC2? 
Good job zero reading comprehension. I'm saying their careers translated to SC2. BW players who were up and comers generally did really well going into SC2, BW players who were already veterans and naturally were falling off didn't do so well or retired. Esports players have life spans, that's just the way of it. Boxer / July retired even earlier.
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On March 06 2014 22:28 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:26 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:25 bo1b wrote:On March 06 2014 22:24 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:22 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:21 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:19 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:18 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:17 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:16 Frex wrote:
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That would be the most absurd thing ever. The guy that most people did not even expect to make it out of Code A this season ends up being the champion. why not, Innovation started his career as a underrated ladder#1 too Innovation was basically the ace for STX Soul and a rising star when BW ended so I'm not sure what you are talking about lol. BW results or career don't matter a lot in SC2... Ask Stork, Bisu or Flash lol You realize Stork and Bisu and even Flash are old veterans whose primes were PAST in BW right? Stork fell out sharply by 2012, Bisu was slightly slower, Flash was falling off the best player chart at the end too. (soulkey, dear, bogus, zest, etc). Just compare Zero with Soulkey, Zero was the Ace and slowly falling, Soulkey was the new and comer. Same with STX and Dear + Bogus. Same with SKT with Rain, etc. Ok, you are right. I forgot Jangbi and Fantasy are the big guns in SC2 Jangbi is same time period as Stork, and he RETIRED after getting a Code S spot. Both of them spent much more time on BW than the rest of the group because they were in the last BW OSL. Jangbi won the last two osl's, you can't possibly imply that he was dropping off Can you read? He retired, he looked fucking great qualifying for Code S. You straight up said he was from the same generation of stork, right after saying that generation of player was falling off. And looking anything less then almost unbeatable isn't good enough if you're making the comparison of best bw players = best sc2 players.
Yea, you can't read.
What dominates now are the up and comers
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On March 06 2014 22:28 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:26 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:25 bo1b wrote:On March 06 2014 22:24 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:22 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:21 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:19 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:18 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:17 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:16 Frex wrote:
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That would be the most absurd thing ever. The guy that most people did not even expect to make it out of Code A this season ends up being the champion. why not, Innovation started his career as a underrated ladder#1 too Innovation was basically the ace for STX Soul and a rising star when BW ended so I'm not sure what you are talking about lol. BW results or career don't matter a lot in SC2... Ask Stork, Bisu or Flash lol You realize Stork and Bisu and even Flash are old veterans whose primes were PAST in BW right? Stork fell out sharply by 2012, Bisu was slightly slower, Flash was falling off the best player chart at the end too. What dominates now are the up and comers (soulkey, dear, bogus, zest, etc). Just compare Zero with Soulkey, Zero was the Ace and slowly falling, Soulkey was the new and comer. Same with STX and Dear + Bogus. Same with SKT with Rain, etc. Ok, you are right. I forgot Jangbi and Fantasy are the big guns in SC2 Jangbi is same time period as Stork, and he RETIRED after getting a Code S spot. Both of them spent much more time on BW than the rest of the group because they were in the last BW OSL. Jangbi won the last two osl's, you can't possibly imply that he was dropping off Can you read? He retired, he looked fucking great qualifying for Code S. You straight up said he was from the same generation of stork, right after saying that generation of player was falling off. And looking anything less then almost unbeatable isn't good enough if you're making the comparison of best bw players = best sc2 players.
Jangbi was on the rise. And in judging his already good performances, you need to account for the fact that he was one of the last players to switch to SC2 due to preparing a DT build to end BW with.
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On March 06 2014 22:28 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:27 Shellshock wrote:On March 06 2014 22:26 Faruko wrote:On March 06 2014 22:18 Shellshock wrote:
Bbyong vs Life finals with Bbyong reverse sweeping from the 0-3 deficit Some people just wanna watch the world burn wouldn't be my ideal result for the season but it would be pretty funny to see Well, a Terran IS needed to replace Jjakji in the league of irrelevant gsl champs along with Seed and Sniper.
3 base collosus pushes into a gsl win fuck yeh
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On March 06 2014 22:29 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:28 bo1b wrote:On March 06 2014 22:26 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:25 bo1b wrote:On March 06 2014 22:24 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:22 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:21 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:19 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:18 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:17 sharkie wrote:
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why not, Innovation started his career as a underrated ladder#1 too Innovation was basically the ace for STX Soul and a rising star when BW ended so I'm not sure what you are talking about lol. BW results or career don't matter a lot in SC2... Ask Stork, Bisu or Flash lol You realize Stork and Bisu and even Flash are old veterans whose primes were PAST in BW right? Stork fell out sharply by 2012, Bisu was slightly slower, Flash was falling off the best player chart at the end too. (soulkey, dear, bogus, zest, etc). Just compare Zero with Soulkey, Zero was the Ace and slowly falling, Soulkey was the new and comer. Same with STX and Dear + Bogus. Same with SKT with Rain, etc. Ok, you are right. I forgot Jangbi and Fantasy are the big guns in SC2 Jangbi is same time period as Stork, and he RETIRED after getting a Code S spot. Both of them spent much more time on BW than the rest of the group because they were in the last BW OSL. Jangbi won the last two osl's, you can't possibly imply that he was dropping off Can you read? He retired, he looked fucking great qualifying for Code S. You straight up said he was from the same generation of stork, right after saying that generation of player was falling off. And looking anything less then almost unbeatable isn't good enough if you're making the comparison of best bw players = best sc2 players. Yea, you can't read. What dominates now are the up and comers
You cannot say the players of storks generation are dropping off, and then say that one of those players is an up and comer, it makes 0 sense
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Missed like the entire night. How was Maru v Dear?
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Poland3775 Posts
On March 06 2014 22:20 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:19 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:18 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:17 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:16 Frex wrote:On March 06 2014 22:11 Qwerty85 wrote:
2014, the year of upsets.
Bbyong could actually be GSL champion. That would be the most absurd thing ever. The guy that most people did not even expect to make it out of Code A this season ends up being the champion. why not, Innovation started his career as a underrated ladder#1 too Innovation was basically the ace for STX Soul and a rising star when BW ended so I'm not sure what you are talking about lol. BW results or career don't matter a lot in SC2... Ask Stork, Bisu or Flash lol Flash ? What ? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012-2013_Proleague/Statistics#Player_Statistics
Proleague is another matter completely. He is unable to deliver results when it matters most: GSL (although I guess his employer will disagree).
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On March 06 2014 22:30 VisonKai wrote:
Missed like the entire night. How was Maru v Dear?
Close series
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Very impressive game by Dear.
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Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (4) 31% ★★★ - Good game (6) 46% ★★ - Only if you have nothing better to do (3) 23% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Only if you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
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Dear's face looks significantly less shiny now that he's on mouse
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