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Who said PvP sniper lololol
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On March 06 2014 22:30 nimdil wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:20 Ragnarork wrote:On March 06 2014 22:19 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:18 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:17 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:16 Frex wrote:On March 06 2014 22:11 Qwerty85 wrote:
2014, the year of upsets.
Bbyong could actually be GSL champion. That would be the most absurd thing ever. The guy that most people did not even expect to make it out of Code A this season ends up being the champion. why not, Innovation started his career as a underrated ladder#1 too Innovation was basically the ace for STX Soul and a rising star when BW ended so I'm not sure what you are talking about lol. BW results or career don't matter a lot in SC2... Ask Stork, Bisu or Flash lol Flash ? What ? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012-2013_Proleague/Statistics#Player_Statistics Proleague is another matter completely. He is unable to deliver results when it matters most: GSL (although I guess his employer will disagree).
Considering the state of KT Rolster in individual leagues, I doubt the house practice time is devoted to anything except Proleague.
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opterown
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On March 06 2014 22:31 opterown wrote:Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (4) 31% ★★★ - Good game (6) 46% ★★ - Only if you have nothing better to do (3) 23% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Only if you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On March 06 2014 22:30 nimdil wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:20 Ragnarork wrote:On March 06 2014 22:19 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:18 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:17 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:16 Frex wrote:On March 06 2014 22:11 Qwerty85 wrote:
2014, the year of upsets.
Bbyong could actually be GSL champion. That would be the most absurd thing ever. The guy that most people did not even expect to make it out of Code A this season ends up being the champion. why not, Innovation started his career as a underrated ladder#1 too Innovation was basically the ace for STX Soul and a rising star when BW ended so I'm not sure what you are talking about lol. BW results or career don't matter a lot in SC2... Ask Stork, Bisu or Flash lol Flash ? What ? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012-2013_Proleague/Statistics#Player_Statistics Proleague is another matter completely. He is unable to deliver results when it matters most: GSL (although I guess his employer will disagree).
Then allow me to correct you:
He is unable to produce results where you think he should be producing results
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wow transitioned out of phoenix and made it work, true badass. Though Zest decided to not scout at all, probably because of the later nexus.
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On March 06 2014 22:29 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:26 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:24 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:22 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:21 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:19 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:18 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:17 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:16 Frex wrote:On March 06 2014 22:11 Qwerty85 wrote:
2014, the year of upsets.
Bbyong could actually be GSL champion. That would be the most absurd thing ever. The guy that most people did not even expect to make it out of Code A this season ends up being the champion. why not, Innovation started his career as a underrated ladder#1 too Innovation was basically the ace for STX Soul and a rising star when BW ended so I'm not sure what you are talking about lol. BW results or career don't matter a lot in SC2... Ask Stork, Bisu or Flash lol You realize Stork and Bisu and even Flash are old veterans whose primes were PAST in BW right? Stork fell out sharply by 2012, Bisu was slightly slower, Flash was falling off the best player chart at the end too. What dominates now are the up and comers (soulkey, dear, bogus, zest, etc). Just compare Zero with Soulkey, Zero was the Ace and slowly falling, Soulkey was the new and comer. Same with STX and Dear + Bogus. Same with SKT with Rain, etc. Ok, you are right. I forgot Jangbi and Fantasy are the big guns in SC2 Jangbi is same time period as Stork, and he RETIRED after getting a Code S spot. Both of them spent much more time on BW than the rest of the group because they were in the last BW OSL. Well... I said BW doesn't matter for SC2, I gave you examples. You told me those examples are wrong because they were of the PAST. Then I give you examples of the best BW players at the end of BW and now the problem is they were too RECENT? I am sorry, so maybe I am right and BW results dont matter in SC2?  Good job zero reading comprehension. I'm saying their careers translated to SC2. BW players who were up and comers generally did really well going into SC2, BW players who were already veterans and naturally were falling off didn't do so well or retired. Esports players have life spans, that's just the way of it. Boxer / July retired even earlier.
You are full of contradictions thats what you are...
Zest wasn't an up and comer. Neither was herO. Soulkey, Rain were as old of players as hydra.
Sora left, Killer left.
As many veterans as up and comers left SC2.
BW != SC2
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On March 06 2014 22:27 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:27 Pangpootata wrote:On March 06 2014 22:25 Nebuchad wrote:
Hey Wolf, it had been a while since I had heard the 'terrans are superior human beings' talk.
I did NOT miss it. Yeah. What sort of marines stand still when not being commanded and don't auto-split against banelings? Clearly mentally deficient human beings. what sort of army enters a war zone completely unprepared? All the races are pretty fail
They're not unprepared, they're happy little colonists. Somehow, they always get surprised when they find out that they are other colonists on the planet they try to exploit.
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France9034 Posts
On March 06 2014 22:28 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:27 Ragnarork wrote:On March 06 2014 22:24 Ragnarork wrote:On March 06 2014 22:22 Ragnarork wrote: GSL Code S Ro 16 Group A Final Match 0:00 - Zest spawns at the top right - Dear spawns at the bottom right 2:00 - Gate for both players - Zest with a slightly earlier gas - 2 gases for Dear, some imba protoss tech coming up - Core for both - Stargate for Zest - Stargate for Dear 5:00 - Phoenix production starting for Zest - Dear taking his second nexus - Robotic for Zest - Zest phoenix scouts Dear's base - Nexus for Zest - Phoenixes poking each other - A poor zealot lifted by zest phoenixes and mercilessly killed 8:00 - Fleet beacon for Zest ! Carriers maybe ? - Little phoenixes skirmish at zest natural, nexus cannon repels Dear - Phoenix range for Zest - Twilight + forge for Dear, + 1 attack and blink immediately started - Dear still doesn't know for the beacon
10:00
- 3 more gates for Zest, continues to make phoenixes
- Dear moving across the maps with ~15 stalkers
- Phoenixes wrecking Dear's natural probes
- Dear at Zest natural, sieging with stalkers and phoenixes
Internet dropped, sorry guys 
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On March 06 2014 22:32 VisonKai wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:30 nimdil wrote:On March 06 2014 22:20 Ragnarork wrote:On March 06 2014 22:19 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:18 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:17 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:16 Frex wrote:On March 06 2014 22:11 Qwerty85 wrote:
2014, the year of upsets.
Bbyong could actually be GSL champion. That would be the most absurd thing ever. The guy that most people did not even expect to make it out of Code A this season ends up being the champion. why not, Innovation started his career as a underrated ladder#1 too Innovation was basically the ace for STX Soul and a rising star when BW ended so I'm not sure what you are talking about lol. BW results or career don't matter a lot in SC2... Ask Stork, Bisu or Flash lol Flash ? What ? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012-2013_Proleague/Statistics#Player_Statistics Proleague is another matter completely. He is unable to deliver results when it matters most: GSL (although I guess his employer will disagree). Considering the state of KT Rolster in individual leagues, I doubt the house practice time is devoted to anything except Proleague.
The two teams which disdanded last year came first and second in proleague, there were an absolute ton of wcs finalists in those teams (not even sure if there were any discounting rain from the other teams), that excuse doesn't hold much water.
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On March 06 2014 22:33 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:29 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:26 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:24 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:22 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:21 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:19 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:18 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:17 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:16 Frex wrote:
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That would be the most absurd thing ever. The guy that most people did not even expect to make it out of Code A this season ends up being the champion. why not, Innovation started his career as a underrated ladder#1 too Innovation was basically the ace for STX Soul and a rising star when BW ended so I'm not sure what you are talking about lol. BW results or career don't matter a lot in SC2... Ask Stork, Bisu or Flash lol You realize Stork and Bisu and even Flash are old veterans whose primes were PAST in BW right? Stork fell out sharply by 2012, Bisu was slightly slower, Flash was falling off the best player chart at the end too. What dominates now are the up and comers (soulkey, dear, bogus, zest, etc). Just compare Zero with Soulkey, Zero was the Ace and slowly falling, Soulkey was the new and comer. Same with STX and Dear + Bogus. Same with SKT with Rain, etc. Ok, you are right. I forgot Jangbi and Fantasy are the big guns in SC2 Jangbi is same time period as Stork, and he RETIRED after getting a Code S spot. Both of them spent much more time on BW than the rest of the group because they were in the last BW OSL. Well... I said BW doesn't matter for SC2, I gave you examples. You told me those examples are wrong because they were of the PAST. Then I give you examples of the best BW players at the end of BW and now the problem is they were too RECENT? I am sorry, so maybe I am right and BW results dont matter in SC2? Good job zero reading comprehension. I'm saying their careers translated to SC2. BW players who were up and comers generally did really well going into SC2, BW players who were already veterans and naturally were falling off didn't do so well or retired. Esports players have life spans, that's just the way of it. Boxer / July retired even earlier. You are full of contradictions thats what you are... Zest wasn't an up and comer. Neither was herO. Soulkey, Rain were as old of players as hydra. Sora left, Killer left. As many veterans as up and comers left SC2. BW != SC2
Zest went from being a rookie on WeMadeFox absorbed by KT to subsequently being played in all their playoff games. Of course he was an up and comer
herO had terrible results being a zerg in bw, but he was consistently seeing more playing time.
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So wait, if Maru gets out first in his group he's against Life...
The match I was hoping for in the finals is in the ro8. :X
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On March 06 2014 22:34 VisonKai wrote:
So wait, if Maru gets out first in his group he's against Life...
The match I was hoping for in the finals is in the ro8. :X
It's an easy pass to the Ro4 though
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On March 06 2014 22:30 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:29 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:28 bo1b wrote:On March 06 2014 22:26 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:25 bo1b wrote:On March 06 2014 22:24 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:22 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:21 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:19 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:18 Caihead wrote:
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Innovation was basically the ace for STX Soul and a rising star when BW ended so I'm not sure what you are talking about lol. BW results or career don't matter a lot in SC2... Ask Stork, Bisu or Flash lol You realize Stork and Bisu and even Flash are old veterans whose primes were PAST in BW right? Stork fell out sharply by 2012, Bisu was slightly slower, Flash was falling off the best player chart at the end too. (soulkey, dear, bogus, zest, etc). Just compare Zero with Soulkey, Zero was the Ace and slowly falling, Soulkey was the new and comer. Same with STX and Dear + Bogus. Same with SKT with Rain, etc. Ok, you are right. I forgot Jangbi and Fantasy are the big guns in SC2 Jangbi is same time period as Stork, and he RETIRED after getting a Code S spot. Both of them spent much more time on BW than the rest of the group because they were in the last BW OSL. Jangbi won the last two osl's, you can't possibly imply that he was dropping off Can you read? He retired, he looked fucking great qualifying for Code S. You straight up said he was from the same generation of stork, right after saying that generation of player was falling off. And looking anything less then almost unbeatable isn't good enough if you're making the comparison of best bw players = best sc2 players. Yea, you can't read. What dominates now are the up and comers You cannot say the players of storks generation are dropping off, and then say that one of those players is an up and comer, it makes 0 sense
Really?
Ace - Upcomer
Zero/Light - Soulkey
Bisu /Best/Fantasy - Rain
Flash/Stats - Zest / Myunsik
Calm/Kal - Dear (best Rookie) / Bogus
Leta/Effort - herO
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On March 06 2014 22:33 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:29 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:26 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:24 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:22 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:21 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:19 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:18 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:17 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:16 Frex wrote:
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That would be the most absurd thing ever. The guy that most people did not even expect to make it out of Code A this season ends up being the champion. why not, Innovation started his career as a underrated ladder#1 too Innovation was basically the ace for STX Soul and a rising star when BW ended so I'm not sure what you are talking about lol. BW results or career don't matter a lot in SC2... Ask Stork, Bisu or Flash lol You realize Stork and Bisu and even Flash are old veterans whose primes were PAST in BW right? Stork fell out sharply by 2012, Bisu was slightly slower, Flash was falling off the best player chart at the end too. What dominates now are the up and comers (soulkey, dear, bogus, zest, etc). Just compare Zero with Soulkey, Zero was the Ace and slowly falling, Soulkey was the new and comer. Same with STX and Dear + Bogus. Same with SKT with Rain, etc. Ok, you are right. I forgot Jangbi and Fantasy are the big guns in SC2 Jangbi is same time period as Stork, and he RETIRED after getting a Code S spot. Both of them spent much more time on BW than the rest of the group because they were in the last BW OSL. Well... I said BW doesn't matter for SC2, I gave you examples. You told me those examples are wrong because they were of the PAST. Then I give you examples of the best BW players at the end of BW and now the problem is they were too RECENT? I am sorry, so maybe I am right and BW results dont matter in SC2? Good job zero reading comprehension. I'm saying their careers translated to SC2. BW players who were up and comers generally did really well going into SC2, BW players who were already veterans and naturally were falling off didn't do so well or retired. Esports players have life spans, that's just the way of it. Boxer / July retired even earlier. You are full of contradictions thats what you are... Zest wasn't an up and comer. Neither was herO. Soulkey, Rain were as old of players as hydra. Sora left, Killer left. As many veterans as up and comers left SC2. BW != SC2
confirmed for 0 reading comprehension
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One more map Dear. Please please please don't go down after winning the first map again! So close to the Ro8.
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France9034 Posts
GSL Code S Ro 16 Group A
Final Match
0:00
- Zest spawns at the top right
- Dear spawns at the bottom left
- double gas for dear, one for zest
- Gate, cycore, usual stuff
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On March 06 2014 22:35 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:34 VisonKai wrote:
So wait, if Maru gets out first in his group he's against Life...
The match I was hoping for in the finals is in the ro8. :X
It's an easy pass to the Ro4 though
Fair enough, but then he'll have to face a Protoss that's actually good in the ro4.
LifevP....
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On March 06 2014 22:35 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:34 VisonKai wrote:
So wait, if Maru gets out first in his group he's against Life...
The match I was hoping for in the finals is in the ro8. :X
It's an easy pass to the Ro4 though
My heart hurts while deciding for who it is an easy pass. I'd say for Life at first, but my sympathy goes with Maru as well.
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On March 06 2014 22:35 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:34 VisonKai wrote:
So wait, if Maru gets out first in his group he's against Life...
The match I was hoping for in the finals is in the ro8. :X
It's an easy pass to the Ro4 though
No kidding, and the smile on Life's face will be glorious!
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maru vs dear sounds awesome from what i read....couldnt watch it though..
anychance for vods without subscribing? sorry if it sounds dumb or if it was asked like a million times.....
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