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Canada8160 Posts
Dear don't let my liquibet down
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LOLOLOL Maru so gonna win that GSL. Sorry Protoss, David Kim says you're fucked ;D
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On March 06 2014 22:43 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:42 Shellshock wrote:On March 06 2014 22:40 Zealously wrote:On March 06 2014 22:37 boxerfred wrote:On March 06 2014 22:35 Zealously wrote:On March 06 2014 22:34 VisonKai wrote:
So wait, if Maru gets out first in his group he's against Life...
The match I was hoping for in the finals is in the ro8. :X
It's an easy pass to the Ro4 though My heart hurts while deciding for who it is an easy pass. I'd say for Life at first, but my sympathy goes with Maru as well. Without any disrespect to Maru I'd say that the match-up favors Life a lot. His ZvT is still really good whereas Maru's has been periodically lackluster recently. Probably Life 3-1 Maru Seems fair. ZvT is the one matchup that Life has kept really strong over a long period of time while it's the matchup I would most worry for Maru. I agree that Life should be favored Life lost to fucking fantasy
It was in Proleague. No correlation.
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On March 06 2014 22:43 VisonKai wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:39 Zealously wrote:On March 06 2014 22:36 VisonKai wrote:On March 06 2014 22:35 Zealously wrote:On March 06 2014 22:34 VisonKai wrote:
So wait, if Maru gets out first in his group he's against Life...
The match I was hoping for in the finals is in the ro8. :X
It's an easy pass to the Ro4 though Fair enough, but then he'll have to face a Protoss that's actually good in the ro4. LifevP.... soO, Bbyong, Squirtle are the three players we can hope for him to face when he gets past Maru, whereas the other players will prove tougher opponents. At least San isn't in GSL. If it's soO I will cry tears of joy. No way Life is going to lose in ZvZ to soO (or anyone, from how it looks right now).
That roro guy wasn't too good at sc2 anyways, so it wasn't hard for Life to 4-0 him.
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On March 06 2014 22:37 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:33 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:29 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:26 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:24 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:22 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:21 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:19 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:18 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:17 sharkie wrote:
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why not, Innovation started his career as a underrated ladder#1 too Innovation was basically the ace for STX Soul and a rising star when BW ended so I'm not sure what you are talking about lol. BW results or career don't matter a lot in SC2... Ask Stork, Bisu or Flash lol You realize Stork and Bisu and even Flash are old veterans whose primes were PAST in BW right? Stork fell out sharply by 2012, Bisu was slightly slower, Flash was falling off the best player chart at the end too. What dominates now are the up and comers (soulkey, dear, bogus, zest, etc). Just compare Zero with Soulkey, Zero was the Ace and slowly falling, Soulkey was the new and comer. Same with STX and Dear + Bogus. Same with SKT with Rain, etc. Ok, you are right. I forgot Jangbi and Fantasy are the big guns in SC2 Jangbi is same time period as Stork, and he RETIRED after getting a Code S spot. Both of them spent much more time on BW than the rest of the group because they were in the last BW OSL. Well... I said BW doesn't matter for SC2, I gave you examples. You told me those examples are wrong because they were of the PAST. Then I give you examples of the best BW players at the end of BW and now the problem is they were too RECENT? I am sorry, so maybe I am right and BW results dont matter in SC2?  Good job zero reading comprehension. I'm saying their careers translated to SC2. BW players who were up and comers generally did really well going into SC2, BW players who were already veterans and naturally were falling off didn't do so well or retired. Esports players have life spans, that's just the way of it. Boxer / July retired even earlier. You are full of contradictions thats what you are... Zest wasn't an up and comer. Neither was herO. Soulkey, Rain were as old of players as hydra. Sora left, Killer left. As many veterans as up and comers left SC2. BW != SC2 It's not a perfect algorithm but obviously players who were upcomers yet to reach their full potential either due to lack of a solid environment or age or experience would eventually over take the veterans who are getting older and mechanically less competitive. How is this difficult to understand. There are exceptions in some specific cases like Jaedong but they are few and far between.
Let's just agree we disagree ^^
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On March 06 2014 22:43 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:42 Shellshock wrote:On March 06 2014 22:40 Zealously wrote:On March 06 2014 22:37 boxerfred wrote:On March 06 2014 22:35 Zealously wrote:On March 06 2014 22:34 VisonKai wrote:
So wait, if Maru gets out first in his group he's against Life...
The match I was hoping for in the finals is in the ro8. :X
It's an easy pass to the Ro4 though My heart hurts while deciding for who it is an easy pass. I'd say for Life at first, but my sympathy goes with Maru as well. Without any disrespect to Maru I'd say that the match-up favors Life a lot. His ZvT is still really good whereas Maru's has been periodically lackluster recently. Probably Life 3-1 Maru Seems fair. ZvT is the one matchup that Life has kept really strong over a long period of time while it's the matchup I would most worry for Maru. I agree that Life should be favored Life lost to fucking fantasy
In a Bo1
Ro8 is not a Bo1 (and don't dare say it's a few Bo1's in a row)
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your Country52798 Posts
On March 06 2014 22:43 NeThZOR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:41 liberate71 wrote:On March 06 2014 22:39 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:38 bo1b wrote:On March 06 2014 22:37 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:33 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:29 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:26 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:24 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:22 sharkie wrote:
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Ok, you are right.
I forgot Jangbi and Fantasy are the big guns in SC2 Jangbi is same time period as Stork, and he RETIRED after getting a Code S spot. Both of them spent much more time on BW than the rest of the group because they were in the last BW OSL. Well... I said BW doesn't matter for SC2, I gave you examples. You told me those examples are wrong because they were of the PAST. Then I give you examples of the best BW players at the end of BW and now the problem is they were too RECENT? I am sorry, so maybe I am right and BW results dont matter in SC2? Good job zero reading comprehension. I'm saying their careers translated to SC2. BW players who were up and comers generally did really well going into SC2, BW players who were already veterans and naturally were falling off didn't do so well or retired. Esports players have life spans, that's just the way of it. Boxer / July retired even earlier. You are full of contradictions thats what you are... Zest wasn't an up and comer. Neither was herO. Soulkey, Rain were as old of players as hydra. Sora left, Killer left. As many veterans as up and comers left SC2. BW != SC2 It's not a perfect algorithm but obviously players who were upcomers yet to reach their full potential either due to lack of a solid environment or age or experience would eventually over take the veterans who are getting older and mechanically less competitive. How is this difficult to understand. There are exceptions in some specific cases like Jaedong but they are few and far between. Is it that hard to admit that the link between the two games is not as strong as you imply? Is it that hard to admit that there is some correlation of PLAYER CAREER that isn't based on whether or not one game is better than the other? From what I gather, He's not saying one game is better than the other. He's saying that the 'crossover' was not as seamless as people assumed. The way the game works is different, as such, the people who did well are different. Nothing to do with age/era etc. We're close to proving Godwin's law here
....what?
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On March 06 2014 22:43 NeThZOR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:41 liberate71 wrote:On March 06 2014 22:39 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:38 bo1b wrote:On March 06 2014 22:37 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:33 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:29 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:26 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:24 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:22 sharkie wrote:
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Ok, you are right.
I forgot Jangbi and Fantasy are the big guns in SC2 Jangbi is same time period as Stork, and he RETIRED after getting a Code S spot. Both of them spent much more time on BW than the rest of the group because they were in the last BW OSL. Well... I said BW doesn't matter for SC2, I gave you examples. You told me those examples are wrong because they were of the PAST. Then I give you examples of the best BW players at the end of BW and now the problem is they were too RECENT? I am sorry, so maybe I am right and BW results dont matter in SC2? Good job zero reading comprehension. I'm saying their careers translated to SC2. BW players who were up and comers generally did really well going into SC2, BW players who were already veterans and naturally were falling off didn't do so well or retired. Esports players have life spans, that's just the way of it. Boxer / July retired even earlier. You are full of contradictions thats what you are... Zest wasn't an up and comer. Neither was herO. Soulkey, Rain were as old of players as hydra. Sora left, Killer left. As many veterans as up and comers left SC2. BW != SC2 It's not a perfect algorithm but obviously players who were upcomers yet to reach their full potential either due to lack of a solid environment or age or experience would eventually over take the veterans who are getting older and mechanically less competitive. How is this difficult to understand. There are exceptions in some specific cases like Jaedong but they are few and far between. Is it that hard to admit that the link between the two games is not as strong as you imply? Is it that hard to admit that there is some correlation of PLAYER CAREER that isn't based on whether or not one game is better than the other? From what I gather, He's not saying one game is better than the other. He's saying that the 'crossover' was not as seamless as people assumed. The way the game works is different, as such, the people who did well are different. Nothing to do with age/era etc. We're close to proving Godwin's law here
What's hitler got to do with anything?
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United States97277 Posts
On March 06 2014 22:43 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:42 Shellshock wrote:On March 06 2014 22:40 Zealously wrote:On March 06 2014 22:37 boxerfred wrote:On March 06 2014 22:35 Zealously wrote:On March 06 2014 22:34 VisonKai wrote:
So wait, if Maru gets out first in his group he's against Life...
The match I was hoping for in the finals is in the ro8. :X
It's an easy pass to the Ro4 though My heart hurts while deciding for who it is an easy pass. I'd say for Life at first, but my sympathy goes with Maru as well. Without any disrespect to Maru I'd say that the match-up favors Life a lot. His ZvT is still really good whereas Maru's has been periodically lackluster recently. Probably Life 3-1 Maru Seems fair. ZvT is the one matchup that Life has kept really strong over a long period of time while it's the matchup I would most worry for Maru. I agree that Life should be favored Life lost to fucking fantasy
you're right. he lost a bo1 to a weird build where he made some mistakes. he must be shit
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On March 06 2014 22:43 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:42 Shellshock wrote:On March 06 2014 22:40 Zealously wrote:On March 06 2014 22:37 boxerfred wrote:On March 06 2014 22:35 Zealously wrote:On March 06 2014 22:34 VisonKai wrote:
So wait, if Maru gets out first in his group he's against Life...
The match I was hoping for in the finals is in the ro8. :X
It's an easy pass to the Ro4 though My heart hurts while deciding for who it is an easy pass. I'd say for Life at first, but my sympathy goes with Maru as well. Without any disrespect to Maru I'd say that the match-up favors Life a lot. His ZvT is still really good whereas Maru's has been periodically lackluster recently. Probably Life 3-1 Maru Seems fair. ZvT is the one matchup that Life has kept really strong over a long period of time while it's the matchup I would most worry for Maru. I agree that Life should be favored Life lost to fucking fantasy
Fantasy was an up and comer at one point, it's ok.
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France9034 Posts
On March 06 2014 22:42 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:41 Ragnarork wrote: GSL Code S Ro 16 Group A Final Match 0:00 - Dear spawns at the top - Zest spawns at the bottom 2:00 - gate for both - dual gases for both - core for both (what will they do next ... both ?) - one more gate for Zest
4:30
- Twilight council for Zest
- Stargate for Dear
- Zest's zealot and stalker wandering on the map
- Blink started for Zest
- Dear adding two more gates
- Zest MSC spots the stargate, oh and a recall saves the MSC
- Phoenix out for Dear
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Greenei
Germany1754 Posts
dat mothershipcore vision range LOL
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On March 06 2014 22:43 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:42 Shellshock wrote:On March 06 2014 22:40 Zealously wrote:On March 06 2014 22:37 boxerfred wrote:On March 06 2014 22:35 Zealously wrote:On March 06 2014 22:34 VisonKai wrote:
So wait, if Maru gets out first in his group he's against Life...
The match I was hoping for in the finals is in the ro8. :X
It's an easy pass to the Ro4 though My heart hurts while deciding for who it is an easy pass. I'd say for Life at first, but my sympathy goes with Maru as well. Without any disrespect to Maru I'd say that the match-up favors Life a lot. His ZvT is still really good whereas Maru's has been periodically lackluster recently. Probably Life 3-1 Maru Seems fair. ZvT is the one matchup that Life has kept really strong over a long period of time while it's the matchup I would most worry for Maru. I agree that Life should be favored Life lost to fucking fantasy
Fantasy played beyond exceptional in that game. That kind of terran never happens.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On March 06 2014 22:43 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:42 Shellshock wrote:On March 06 2014 22:40 Zealously wrote:On March 06 2014 22:37 boxerfred wrote:On March 06 2014 22:35 Zealously wrote:On March 06 2014 22:34 VisonKai wrote:
So wait, if Maru gets out first in his group he's against Life...
The match I was hoping for in the finals is in the ro8. :X
It's an easy pass to the Ro4 though My heart hurts while deciding for who it is an easy pass. I'd say for Life at first, but my sympathy goes with Maru as well. Without any disrespect to Maru I'd say that the match-up favors Life a lot. His ZvT is still really good whereas Maru's has been periodically lackluster recently. Probably Life 3-1 Maru Seems fair. ZvT is the one matchup that Life has kept really strong over a long period of time while it's the matchup I would most worry for Maru. I agree that Life should be favored Life lost to fucking fantasy
One game versus a prepared build. Life may not be invincible in elimination rounds any more, but you're making a fool of yourself if you think one loss to Fantasy means Maru will wreck him or some shit
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On March 06 2014 22:44 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:43 Paljas wrote:On March 06 2014 22:42 Shellshock wrote:On March 06 2014 22:40 Zealously wrote:On March 06 2014 22:37 boxerfred wrote:On March 06 2014 22:35 Zealously wrote:On March 06 2014 22:34 VisonKai wrote:
So wait, if Maru gets out first in his group he's against Life...
The match I was hoping for in the finals is in the ro8. :X
It's an easy pass to the Ro4 though My heart hurts while deciding for who it is an easy pass. I'd say for Life at first, but my sympathy goes with Maru as well. Without any disrespect to Maru I'd say that the match-up favors Life a lot. His ZvT is still really good whereas Maru's has been periodically lackluster recently. Probably Life 3-1 Maru Seems fair. ZvT is the one matchup that Life has kept really strong over a long period of time while it's the matchup I would most worry for Maru. I agree that Life should be favored Life lost to fucking fantasy It was in Proleague. No correlation.
He also lost to fantasy in gsl pre hellbat nerfs
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On March 06 2014 22:43 NeThZOR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:41 liberate71 wrote:On March 06 2014 22:39 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:38 bo1b wrote:On March 06 2014 22:37 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:33 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:29 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:26 sharkie wrote:On March 06 2014 22:24 Caihead wrote:On March 06 2014 22:22 sharkie wrote:
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Ok, you are right.
I forgot Jangbi and Fantasy are the big guns in SC2 Jangbi is same time period as Stork, and he RETIRED after getting a Code S spot. Both of them spent much more time on BW than the rest of the group because they were in the last BW OSL. Well... I said BW doesn't matter for SC2, I gave you examples. You told me those examples are wrong because they were of the PAST. Then I give you examples of the best BW players at the end of BW and now the problem is they were too RECENT? I am sorry, so maybe I am right and BW results dont matter in SC2? Good job zero reading comprehension. I'm saying their careers translated to SC2. BW players who were up and comers generally did really well going into SC2, BW players who were already veterans and naturally were falling off didn't do so well or retired. Esports players have life spans, that's just the way of it. Boxer / July retired even earlier. You are full of contradictions thats what you are... Zest wasn't an up and comer. Neither was herO. Soulkey, Rain were as old of players as hydra. Sora left, Killer left. As many veterans as up and comers left SC2. BW != SC2 It's not a perfect algorithm but obviously players who were upcomers yet to reach their full potential either due to lack of a solid environment or age or experience would eventually over take the veterans who are getting older and mechanically less competitive. How is this difficult to understand. There are exceptions in some specific cases like Jaedong but they are few and far between. Is it that hard to admit that the link between the two games is not as strong as you imply? Is it that hard to admit that there is some correlation of PLAYER CAREER that isn't based on whether or not one game is better than the other? From what I gather, He's not saying one game is better than the other. He's saying that the 'crossover' was not as seamless as people assumed. The way the game works is different, as such, the people who did well are different. Nothing to do with age/era etc. We're close to proving Godwin's law here
I thank you for making me aware of such things, holy shit that's awesome.
P.S - you are the opposite to Hitler.
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On March 06 2014 22:44 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:43 Paljas wrote:On March 06 2014 22:42 Shellshock wrote:On March 06 2014 22:40 Zealously wrote:On March 06 2014 22:37 boxerfred wrote:On March 06 2014 22:35 Zealously wrote:On March 06 2014 22:34 VisonKai wrote:
So wait, if Maru gets out first in his group he's against Life...
The match I was hoping for in the finals is in the ro8. :X
It's an easy pass to the Ro4 though My heart hurts while deciding for who it is an easy pass. I'd say for Life at first, but my sympathy goes with Maru as well. Without any disrespect to Maru I'd say that the match-up favors Life a lot. His ZvT is still really good whereas Maru's has been periodically lackluster recently. Probably Life 3-1 Maru Seems fair. ZvT is the one matchup that Life has kept really strong over a long period of time while it's the matchup I would most worry for Maru. I agree that Life should be favored Life lost to fucking fantasy In a Bo1 Ro8 is not a Bo1 (and don't dare say it's a few Bo1's in a row)
It becomes a bo1 if it goes to the final game. GG LIFE!
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On March 06 2014 22:44 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:43 Paljas wrote:On March 06 2014 22:42 Shellshock wrote:On March 06 2014 22:40 Zealously wrote:On March 06 2014 22:37 boxerfred wrote:On March 06 2014 22:35 Zealously wrote:On March 06 2014 22:34 VisonKai wrote:
So wait, if Maru gets out first in his group he's against Life...
The match I was hoping for in the finals is in the ro8. :X
It's an easy pass to the Ro4 though My heart hurts while deciding for who it is an easy pass. I'd say for Life at first, but my sympathy goes with Maru as well. Without any disrespect to Maru I'd say that the match-up favors Life a lot. His ZvT is still really good whereas Maru's has been periodically lackluster recently. Probably Life 3-1 Maru Seems fair. ZvT is the one matchup that Life has kept really strong over a long period of time while it's the matchup I would most worry for Maru. I agree that Life should be favored Life lost to fucking fantasy you're right. he lost a bo1 to a weird build where he made some mistakes. he must be shit
Flash lost to Stork he's so washed up
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Greenei
Germany1754 Posts
Life should actually be favored against Maru. Maru seemed quite weak to strong zerg like SK.
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