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walsh_walsh
Profile Joined November 2013
United States200 Posts
February 17 2014 22:44 GMT
#841
On February 18 2014 03:04 VmY wrote:
I missed the eveny, any games worth checking out? The polls aren't very helpfull these days.



I thought the two matches with Soulkey were pretty cool. They were kind of one-sided but Soulkey played super well. Amazing decision-making and crisp army control. I wish I can play zerg like that :D

Most of the others played somewhat sloppily imo, even Parting was a little sloppy.
sOs best protoss, Alliance dota fan forever
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37097 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-17 23:19:32
February 17 2014 23:13 GMT
#842
In Game Chat Translations:

(T)Flash vs (Z)Soulkey
Flash: lol
Soulkey: Noo



(T)Maru vs (P)Creator
Maru: (sweats)
Creator: What? lol
Maru: No scout?
Creator: You were also late
Maru: I said I was going 11/11
Creator: No rax dual CC hehe
Maru: I warned you about it too
Creator: Am I an idiot?
Maru: You're mean

Creator: Hey Maru
Creator: When you go no rax dual CC
Maru: What?
Creator: I'll show you what happens
Maru: Show me
Maru: I'm curious
Creator: Got it
Creator: Here I go
Maru: Okay
Creator: Here comes the oracle!!!!!!
Maru: (sweats)
Maru: (sweats x2)
Creator: (sweats x3)
Maru: I saw it well
Creator: Oracle
Creator: Is on the way
Maru: Hurry up
Creator: Got it
Creator: It's almost there

Creator: Hey
Creator: Maru
Maru: Where's this oracle?
Creator: Take it easy on me (sweats x2)
Maru: I lost that battle
Creator: Honestly
Creator: Then
Maru: ㅇ.ㅇ
Creator: ㅇ.ㅇ
Maru: Can't win
Creator: Maru so good
Creator: My probes
Maru: ㅠ
Creator: You're mean

Maru: Who is? (sweats)
Creator: You are
Maru: Why?
Creator: Take it easy

Maru: Hehe
Creator: Bye
Maru: Why?
Creator: PartinG's units
Creator: On the way

Maru: lol
Creator: OP (sweats)

Creator: Hey Maru (sweats x2)
Creator: You're mean
Maru: What?
Creator: You said you were doing a 11/11
Creator: Instead you do a gas build? (sweats x2)
Maru: Hehe (sweats)

Creator: Man..
Maru: lolol
Creator: GG
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 17 2014 23:31 GMT
#843
haha thanks seeker
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
February 17 2014 23:44 GMT
#844
Lol thanks Seeker funny stuff
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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
February 17 2014 23:48 GMT
#845
On February 18 2014 05:44 DiMano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2014 05:27 SC2Toastie wrote:
Just saying, there's a lot of comments over here that are way worse than mine, but because I used facts I apparantly get mass reported by a certain category of players??

With above, no, Maru v Creator was an abomination.

I saw enough of your stupid balance whine comments and after this:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 21:01 SC2Toastie wrote:
On February 17 2014 21:00 Wintex wrote:
On February 17 2014 20:57 imrusty269 wrote:
On February 17 2014 20:56 sharkie wrote:
meaningless match, but herO just outclassed TY in this game

Let's discuss after the nerf

LOL

do you even know who herO is?

A CJ Protoss player who has recently done really well, just like all Protoss players /troll.

Not to discard Hero, he is an amazingly crisp player. He was good before it was cool :D

I stop paying attention to any your comment.
I like how people are mad and paying attention to only the game not to the players and they even manage to whine during showmatches.

You stopped paying attention and proceed to still comment on it?

Also, I don't see what is wrong with those comments. It's so obviously clear that those aren't ment literally.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
February 18 2014 00:44 GMT
#846
On February 18 2014 03:48 TW wrote:
The problem is that P and Z can make some mistakes, once T makes mistake the game is over.


Dude don't even start

In starcraft all races are capable of BS, and as a Terran player I know for a fact the kind of bull a Terran can pull. i do it all the time.

Want to move out of your base? Doom drop.

Want to comeback to defend? Booster.

Want to base trade? Lift all da buildings.
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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 01:14:31
February 18 2014 01:14 GMT
#847
Terran right now is statistically speaking the weakest any race has been in SC2 history. No race has had a 2-3 month stretch this bad results wise. Could just be variance but I doubt it.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 18 2014 02:26 GMT
#848
On February 18 2014 10:14 JJH777 wrote:
Terran right now is statistically speaking the weakest any race has been in SC2 history. No race has had a 2-3 month stretch this bad results wise. Could just be variance but I doubt it.


loooooool. Toss and zerg had their horrible statistics as well back in the day. Terran is now just having a tough time, but trust me terran's isn't the worst. If anything it would be protoss (other then the past 6 months). Look at all of WoL and look at protoss results and you'll realize how bad they had it compared to terran especially now.
When I think of something else, something will go here
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 18 2014 02:45 GMT
#849
this isn't even terran's worst time, i think they had a rougher time mid-late 2012 than now
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Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
February 18 2014 05:12 GMT
#850
On February 18 2014 11:26 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2014 10:14 JJH777 wrote:
Terran right now is statistically speaking the weakest any race has been in SC2 history. No race has had a 2-3 month stretch this bad results wise. Could just be variance but I doubt it.


loooooool. Toss and zerg had their horrible statistics as well back in the day. Terran is now just having a tough time, but trust me terran's isn't the worst. If anything it would be protoss (other then the past 6 months). Look at all of WoL and look at protoss results and you'll realize how bad they had it compared to terran especially now.


Exactly. in Wings of Liberty, this slightly less than two month period was more like a year and a half, only it was Protoss getting slaughtered instead. Think of it like this, in Wings of Liberty one player won more GSLs than an entire race of players.

This of course doesn't mean that this is ok, the balance needs to be fixed. But this isnt Broodlord/Infestor level bad or 2011 GomTvT bad.
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 18 2014 07:35 GMT
#851
On February 18 2014 14:12 Wingblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2014 11:26 blade55555 wrote:
On February 18 2014 10:14 JJH777 wrote:
Terran right now is statistically speaking the weakest any race has been in SC2 history. No race has had a 2-3 month stretch this bad results wise. Could just be variance but I doubt it.


loooooool. Toss and zerg had their horrible statistics as well back in the day. Terran is now just having a tough time, but trust me terran's isn't the worst. If anything it would be protoss (other then the past 6 months). Look at all of WoL and look at protoss results and you'll realize how bad they had it compared to terran especially now.


Exactly. in Wings of Liberty, this slightly less than two month period was more like a year and a half, only it was Protoss getting slaughtered instead. Think of it like this, in Wings of Liberty one player won more GSLs than an entire race of players.

This of course doesn't mean that this is ok, the balance needs to be fixed. But this isnt Broodlord/Infestor level bad or 2011 GomTvT bad.


Oh comon, it has been more than 2 months (it is just gotten worse due to map pool) and protoss was never UP for an entire 1.5 years. Again, not saying protoss didn't have it bad for a while, but the 2 months vs 1.5 years is just silly.

And if you want to talk about GSLs, yes, Mvp did win more than the entire protoss race. But he also won more than the rest of the terrans combine... And since MC is the #1 prize earner (yes, he did have advantage of winning foreign tournaments early on), it is hard to say protoss was UP for that long.
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
February 18 2014 13:11 GMT
#852
On February 18 2014 11:26 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2014 10:14 JJH777 wrote:
Terran right now is statistically speaking the weakest any race has been in SC2 history. No race has had a 2-3 month stretch this bad results wise. Could just be variance but I doubt it.


loooooool. Toss and zerg had their horrible statistics as well back in the day. Terran is now just having a tough time, but trust me terran's isn't the worst. If anything it would be protoss (other then the past 6 months). Look at all of WoL and look at protoss results and you'll realize how bad they had it compared to terran especially now.


What JJH777 said is true.
Terran is statistically speaking the weakest any race has been in SC2 history.
Zerg in early WoL, Protoss in mid WoL, Terran in late WoL, were also underperforming, but not THAT badly, which is the point here.

Terran characteristics:
- 10% of players in code S (could be 0% in RO16).
- Top T winning against code A Protoss is considered epic.
- Top T getting dismantled against other top Z and P.

These 3 characteristics combined at the same time are unmatched in Sc2 history.
Our envy always last longer than the happiness of those we envy
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 13:38:51
February 18 2014 13:37 GMT
#853
On February 18 2014 22:11 SiroKO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2014 11:26 blade55555 wrote:
On February 18 2014 10:14 JJH777 wrote:
Terran right now is statistically speaking the weakest any race has been in SC2 history. No race has had a 2-3 month stretch this bad results wise. Could just be variance but I doubt it.


loooooool. Toss and zerg had their horrible statistics as well back in the day. Terran is now just having a tough time, but trust me terran's isn't the worst. If anything it would be protoss (other then the past 6 months). Look at all of WoL and look at protoss results and you'll realize how bad they had it compared to terran especially now.


What JJH777 said is true.
Terran is statistically speaking the weakest any race has been in SC2 history.
Zerg in early WoL, Protoss in mid WoL, Terran in late WoL, were also underperforming, but not THAT badly, which is the point here.

Terran characteristics:
- 10% of players in code S (could be 0% in RO16).
- Top T winning against code A Protoss is considered epic.
- Top T getting dismantled against other top Z and P.

These 3 characteristics combined at the same time are unmatched in Sc2 history.

You can't say that:
Because Terran 'ruled' in early WOL we don't have a comparison for "top" player.
Also, all races have had bad times in RO16, Protoss went there with 1/2 players too.
Top T can still hold their own against TopZ/P, maybe not 50/50, but they aren't getting "dismantled". (See: Maru, Innovation, Polt, TY, Flash regularly win games)

You are gravely exaggerating.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
ArTiFaKs
Profile Joined September 2013
United States1229 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 20:01:43
February 18 2014 19:59 GMT
#854
On February 18 2014 22:11 SiroKO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2014 11:26 blade55555 wrote:
On February 18 2014 10:14 JJH777 wrote:
Terran right now is statistically speaking the weakest any race has been in SC2 history. No race has had a 2-3 month stretch this bad results wise. Could just be variance but I doubt it.


loooooool. Toss and zerg had their horrible statistics as well back in the day. Terran is now just having a tough time, but trust me terran's isn't the worst. If anything it would be protoss (other then the past 6 months). Look at all of WoL and look at protoss results and you'll realize how bad they had it compared to terran especially now.


What JJH777 said is true.
Terran is statistically speaking the weakest any race has been in SC2 history.
Zerg in early WoL, Protoss in mid WoL, Terran in late WoL, were also underperforming, but not THAT badly, which is the point here.

Terran characteristics:
- 10% of players in code S (could be 0% in RO16).
- Top T winning against code A Protoss is considered epic.
- Top T getting dismantled against other top Z and P.

These 3 characteristics combined at the same time are unmatched in Sc2 history.


Lol is that why Polt made it through to the finals of IEM beating some of the top Protoss in the world? get that shit out of here, Terran has 1 GSL with low numbers (mostly because of the map pool is just ridiculous for PvT right now) and all of a sudden they are the worst race in history of sc2? First of all, it's been 2 month since the start of the new season, so the "offseason" months don't really count because the whole player pool wasn't really competing.

Pretty much since the start of HotS until about December or November of 2013 Protoss wasn't even reaching the ro8 in most tournaments. I don't think we had any Protoss in the final of a major tournament until Dear made it to the GSL championship and beat soO.
There are things known, and things unknown, and in-between are the doors.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37097 Posts
February 20 2014 02:18 GMT
#855
It's up! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444081

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