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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 17 2014 12:40 GMT
#681
On February 17 2014 21:39 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 21:37 juvenal wrote:
On February 17 2014 21:35 Disarmed wrote:
zealots feel just soooo scary in large numbers
gg

hots introduced the solution! Silly terrans don't understand.


Terrans got fungal growth and banelings? D:


Colossi counter zealots as well
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
February 17 2014 12:40 GMT
#682
I just realised there were 3 matches between ex-teammates today:

TY vs RorO (both ex-WMF)
TY vs herO (both ex-WMF)
Creator vs Maru (ex-Prime)
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
February 17 2014 12:40 GMT
#683
Do it Maru , PLEASE !!!!!
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
February 17 2014 12:40 GMT
#684
On February 17 2014 21:39 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 21:37 Fjodorov wrote:
Getting a bit tired of watching mass storms blanketing the bio army. A storm or two and you can split if you are good enough but just watching bio die to so many storms at once isnt fun because its there is no way you can micro against it. Ghost should help but im not seeing ghost being used successfully


When you get behind in TvP its hard to come back.

Hard too? I don't recall the last time that happened.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
February 17 2014 12:40 GMT
#685
On February 17 2014 21:38 TheFlexN wrote:
I am looking forward seeing MKP back in action, at the moment he is an analytic, right?

Yeah he's casting with two other korean casters and Stork atm.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 17 2014 12:41 GMT
#686
On February 17 2014 21:40 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 21:39 Tobblish wrote:
On February 17 2014 21:37 Fjodorov wrote:
Getting a bit tired of watching mass storms blanketing the bio army. A storm or two and you can split if you are good enough but just watching bio die to so many storms at once isnt fun because its there is no way you can micro against it. Ghost should help but im not seeing ghost being used successfully


When you get behind in TvP its hard to come back.

Hard too? I don't recall the last time that happened.

just at IEM a few hours ago
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Jmanthedragonguy
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada1202 Posts
February 17 2014 12:41 GMT
#687
I'm torn between hero and maru, i like them both >.<
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
February 17 2014 12:41 GMT
#688
On February 17 2014 21:41 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 21:40 SC2Toastie wrote:
On February 17 2014 21:39 Tobblish wrote:
On February 17 2014 21:37 Fjodorov wrote:
Getting a bit tired of watching mass storms blanketing the bio army. A storm or two and you can split if you are good enough but just watching bio die to so many storms at once isnt fun because its there is no way you can micro against it. Ghost should help but im not seeing ghost being used successfully


When you get behind in TvP its hard to come back.

Hard too? I don't recall the last time that happened.

just at IEM a few hours ago

Before that, haven't caught up with IEM yet.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
February 17 2014 12:41 GMT
#689
That matchup clearly showed whats wrong with TvP. Gas first oracle against a 15CC, even if defended and Flash has the eco lead survives the timing window to punish the greedy protoss TY PO, and then the ensuring HT vs bio army.. Once your behind as T, its going to be hard to win compared to Protoss.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 17 2014 12:42 GMT
#690
herO is quite good looking.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 17 2014 12:42 GMT
#691
On February 17 2014 21:37 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 21:35 Disarmed wrote:
zealots feel just soooo scary in large numbers
gg

hots introduced the solution! Silly terrans don't understand.


No it is Blizzard who doesn't understand that you can't go for bio, medivacs, ghosts, vikings and hellbats, upgrade all those units etc. + hellbats have bio tag so they would get destroyed by archons and they can't be microed out of storm.

Terran has a counter to mass chargelot only in theory but it is not really possible to use them in actual scenarios.

You can go for hellbats like ForGG does but then you must skip ghosts. Or go for ghosts but then you can't get hellbats as well. And ghosts are still much more important to have.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
February 17 2014 12:42 GMT
#692
On February 17 2014 21:36 SC2Toastie wrote:
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On February 17 2014 21:34 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
Flash likes to throw TvPs

-throw-?

He lost when he lost 50 supply to 6+Overcharge while sniping a nexus and Parting didn't even have defense in his base -.-.


Well that exacly was a throw right there , he also donated some units on his first push on the natural ...
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 17 2014 12:42 GMT
#693
On February 17 2014 21:41 YyapSsap wrote:
That matchup clearly showed whats wrong with TvP. Gas first oracle against a 15CC, even if defended and Flash has the eco lead survives the timing window to punish the greedy protoss TY PO, and then the ensuring HT vs bio army.. Once your behind as T, its going to be hard to win compared to Protoss.

flash should have had that except that he threw 4 medivacs and didn't even get the nexus until he threw two more at it
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 17 2014 12:42 GMT
#694
On February 17 2014 21:40 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 21:39 Tobblish wrote:
On February 17 2014 21:37 Fjodorov wrote:
Getting a bit tired of watching mass storms blanketing the bio army. A storm or two and you can split if you are good enough but just watching bio die to so many storms at once isnt fun because its there is no way you can micro against it. Ghost should help but im not seeing ghost being used successfully


When you get behind in TvP its hard to come back.

Hard too? I don't recall the last time that happened.

yesterday
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 17 2014 12:43 GMT
#695
On February 17 2014 21:41 YyapSsap wrote:
That matchup clearly showed whats wrong with TvP. Gas first oracle against a 15CC, even if defended and Flash has the eco lead survives the timing window to punish the greedy protoss TY PO, and then the ensuring HT vs bio army.. Once your behind as T, its going to be hard to win compared to Protoss.

Don't get banned man! We need you to translate the chat
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 17 2014 12:43 GMT
#696
On February 17 2014 21:42 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 21:36 SC2Toastie wrote:
On February 17 2014 21:34 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
Flash likes to throw TvPs

-throw-?

He lost when he lost 50 supply to 6+Overcharge while sniping a nexus and Parting didn't even have defense in his base -.-.


Well that exacly was a throw right there , he also donated some units on his first push on the natural ...

Donated? He tried to attack, that's all. Nothing was "donated".
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 17 2014 12:44 GMT
#697
On February 17 2014 21:43 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 21:42 raga4ka wrote:
On February 17 2014 21:36 SC2Toastie wrote:
On February 17 2014 21:34 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
Flash likes to throw TvPs

-throw-?

He lost when he lost 50 supply to 6+Overcharge while sniping a nexus and Parting didn't even have defense in his base -.-.


Well that exacly was a throw right there , he also donated some units on his first push on the natural ...

Donated? He tried to attack, that's all. Nothing was "donated".

it was a very poor attack
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
February 17 2014 12:44 GMT
#698
On February 17 2014 21:42 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 21:37 juvenal wrote:
On February 17 2014 21:35 Disarmed wrote:
zealots feel just soooo scary in large numbers
gg

hots introduced the solution! Silly terrans don't understand.


No it is Blizzard who doesn't understand that you can't go for bio, medivacs, ghosts, vikings and hellbats, upgrade all those units etc. + hellbats have bio tag so they would get destroyed by archons and they can't be microed out of storm.

Terran has a counter to mass chargelot only in theory but it is not really possible to use them in actual scenarios.

You can go for hellbats like ForGG does but then you must skip ghosts. Or go for ghosts but then you can't get hellbats as well. And ghosts are still much more important to have.

That is the reason they are trying out Widow Mine buff.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
February 17 2014 12:44 GMT
#699
On February 17 2014 21:42 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 21:36 SC2Toastie wrote:
On February 17 2014 21:34 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
Flash likes to throw TvPs

-throw-?

He lost when he lost 50 supply to 6+Overcharge while sniping a nexus and Parting didn't even have defense in his base -.-.


Well that exacly was a throw right there , he also donated some units on his first push on the natural ...

You do realise how ridiculous that sounds...
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
February 17 2014 12:44 GMT
#700
THE TREE BOSS HAS BEEN DEFEATED!!!
The curse is real
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