EPTOn February 14 2014 22:42 VmY wrote:
I woudn't count Jjakji, Innovation and Jaedong out like that
I woudn't count Jjakji, Innovation and Jaedong out like that
You mean you wouldn't count jaedong out ?
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goody153
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You mean you wouldn't count jaedong out ? | ||
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juvenal
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On February 14 2014 22:42 DarkLordOlli wrote: You're talking to another GM player btw Not saying I agree, I think ForGG would probably fall too far behind. protoss player that is. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On February 14 2014 22:38 KalWarkov wrote: want me to show u replays? lol. ive held 3 zealots at a time with probes only before, losing about 4 probes. and im no ForGG... My remark was aimed at the "it's not that hard" part. Of course it's possible to hold without even one SCV loss, but that's certainly not simple. | ||
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Fjodorov
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Qwerty85
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On February 14 2014 22:47 Fjodorov wrote: Are they playing one game at a time? Affirmative. | ||
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djraphi23
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TheDwf
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On February 14 2014 22:48 djraphi23 wrote: If we have only protoss in quarter-finals, the balance patch will come out very quickly ^^ Realistically I think we'll have only 5 or 6. | ||
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NovaMB
Germany9534 Posts
On February 14 2014 22:48 djraphi23 wrote: If we have only protoss in quarter-finals, the balance patch will come out very quickly ^^ Mana will not advance from his group, Patience neither | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On February 14 2014 22:39 Qwerty85 wrote: I would like for you to show me a game where such scenario unfolds. Besides, what is stopping HerO from chronoing a stalker after those 2 reapers? He already had a cyber core. ForGG was dead, it was just a build order loss that is it. Yes he could have put the supply depot at the ramp, he probably didn't because the ramp is so far away but I think it is a good trade-off to stop shit like in - base proxy gateway. So that was a mistake by ForGG. But after that there is not really much he could have done better. kill zealots with SCVs. send back reaper. build a bunker immediatly while building marines. probably try to kill pylon with scvs meanwhile, not sure how the pylon was positioned (how many scvs couldve attacked) to decide wheather its worth attacking it or not. with a bunker and constant 1 marine production, it is possible to hold. he would be behind from that point on obviously. if you put maru or innovation in that situation forgg was in, they probably hold. not sure if still watchable, but worker micro is acutally pretty easy http://drop.sc/366586 | ||
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
On February 14 2014 22:48 djraphi23 wrote: If we have only protoss in quarter-finals, the balance patch will come out very quickly ^^ I actually think Polt has best chances of all terrans (when looking at the groups) to get out of the group. But after that it will be very hard. | ||
opterown
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lichter
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On February 14 2014 22:52 opterown wrote: it's SKT T1 lol so many SKT fans are anal about that I'm not a T1 fan and I get kinda annoyed with "SKT1" too. Not to mention the variations of "iMMvP" | ||
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partydude89
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KalWarkov
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On February 14 2014 22:45 TheDwf wrote: My remark was aimed at the "it's not that hard" part. Of course it's possible to hold without even one SCV loss, but that's certainly not simple. we talk about ForGG. it doesnt have to be simple. | ||
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djraphi23
France2262 Posts
But 7 protoss is quite probable ... | ||
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
On February 14 2014 22:50 KalWarkov wrote: kill zealots with SCVs. send back reaper. build a bunker immediatly while building marines. probably try to kill pylon with scvs meanwhile, not sure how the pylon was positioned (how many scvs couldve attacked) to decide wheather its worth attacking it or not. with a bunker and constant 1 marine production, it is possible to hold. he would be behind from that point on obviously. if you put maru or innovation in that situation forgg was in, they probably hold. not sure if still watchable, but worker micro is acutally pretty easy http://drop.sc/366586 I will watch the replay later I guess (after IEM finishes) but I don't think Innovation or Maru would hold that (if the game looked the same until those 2 zealots came into the mineral line). As I said, best chances for ForGG would be if he simply put a depot close to the ramp to spot the probe. The game would look completely different in that case. Also, as far as I know, it is much more standard to check your whole base in PvP than in TvP,terrans just don't do that against protoss (not saying they shouldn't, but that is just the way it is). HerO probably knows that and that is why he went for such build. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
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SC2Toastie
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