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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 10 2014 12:22 GMT
#2341
Poll: Recommend KHAN vs. SKT Game 3, Part 1?

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Your vote: Recommend KHAN vs. SKT Game 3, Part 1?

(Vote): If you have time



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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2014 12:22 GMT
#2342
On February 10 2014 21:16 Heartland wrote:
I wish Kaelaeris cast this so I could watch him break down mentally

rofl :D
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SunflowerSeeds
Profile Joined December 2013
90 Posts
February 10 2014 12:22 GMT
#2343
Kudos to both players for sticking for so long and still eager to win for their teams at the end. And disgusted by game designers.
YuiHirasawa
Profile Joined August 2012
Japan220 Posts
February 10 2014 12:22 GMT
#2344
Was I the only one to actually like the game?
Fun things are fun
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
February 10 2014 12:22 GMT
#2345
On February 10 2014 21:21 bo1b wrote:
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On February 10 2014 21:19 robson1 wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:17 bo1b wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:16 GTPGlitch wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:15 Evenshade wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:13 GTPGlitch wrote:
fucking a reality has this game won....

Soulkey pls gg


Even at a "won" game, Reality still the one who is turtling :/


He can't win without turtling against SH lol....

You don't make swarm hosts unless turtle mech goes out lol.


There is literally no argument about SH being a terrible unit. lol.

No shit, but there is literally no argument that zerg can win vs this shit on that sort of map with sh. Without it zerg will straight up never win vs turtle mech.


Not talking about balance though. Remove swarmhost, give Zerg something else (I'm no zerg obviously, but it looks to me like they just need a stronger AA unit, to contest Viking/Raven/Battelcruiser)
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 10 2014 12:22 GMT
#2346
On February 10 2014 21:22 TheDwf wrote:
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On February 10 2014 21:21 boxerfred wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:19 TheDwf wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:19 Spect8rCraft wrote:
This reminds me of that game Hyun and a Terran played not too long ago, where Hyun was able to abuse Frost's size to continuously plant hatcheries and maintain some level of economy, whereas the Terran was out of bases and could do little more than to chase down and find those hatcheries, with the Terran GG'ing out of frustration.

HyuN vs Happy at HSC8. T_T


Not OT, but Happy-related: wasn't happy the terran who forced the draw against a protoss (Stardust?) on Bel'shir, where he sniped a colossus and a archon with 3 marauders or so and flew his CC all around the map, but wasn't able to kill that last assimilator at the 3rd?

Yes. There was also a draw against ToD on the same map.


He's kind of the guy, isn't he. Hm, shall we just switch to Rotti streaming instead of watching proleague and comment him furiously?
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-10 12:23:10
February 10 2014 12:22 GMT
#2347
On February 10 2014 21:20 Kettchup wrote:
Would have been a great game if only zerg static defense didn't count toward surviving buildings. That push to the south winning it would have been amazing. Flying buildings shouldn't count either.



I like these ideas a lot. Would be nice if buildings moving weren't counted, but they are probably not intuitive enough for new players for Blizzard to implement something like this.

I hope LotV completely re-workes mech and SHs. These kinds of games just doesn't work, and are not fun to watch or play.
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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
February 10 2014 12:22 GMT
#2348
On February 10 2014 21:19 Pangpootata wrote:
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On February 10 2014 21:18 MWY wrote:
EOEOEOLALALALALALALA

OGN used to have that track after every commercial break quite a while in the past. So much nostalgia


is said track on YT?
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 10 2014 12:23 GMT
#2349
On February 10 2014 21:20 robson1 wrote:
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On February 10 2014 21:19 BongChambers wrote:
What pisses me off is that Terran could of won this and he simply gave up.

Energy/magic is the most powerful thing in SC2 and that BC/Raven composition could of won him the game, mind you it would of taken 10-30 more minutes. But a win is a win, you do it for your team.

Very disappointing.


If he tries it and fails (which would have been very much possible) he could even have lost the game by loosing most of his air stuff. So it was pretty risky.

It's far less risky to play a game with your two options being win/lose (with it pretty heavily favored in the former) then a fresh game where anything can happen.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
February 10 2014 12:23 GMT
#2350
What are they asking fanta?
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 10 2014 12:23 GMT
#2351
On February 10 2014 21:22 Scarecrow wrote:
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On February 10 2014 21:21 Destructicon wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:18 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:18 b0lt wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:17 ZAiNs wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:16 Elite_ wrote:
Reality had it won. Soulkey had no way to kill the BC...

Reality had no way to kill the Spores...

He just needed to save up 2 yamatos, and then either double yamato a spore, or yamato a queen if soulkey transfuses. It'd take like 3 hours to win the game, but he'd win eventually.

You can't save up 2 yamatos


Yes you can, Yamato is 100 energy each, you wait till BC is maxed on energy then shoot. However you first need to kill all the queens, so you spend 30 min killing those and another 30 waiting to get energy to yamato all the spores.

Yamato's 125 -.-

Yamato is 100 energy in HotS. Blizzard's conception of mech was to strengthen Terran's air spellcasters.
Green_25
Profile Joined June 2013
Great Britain696 Posts
February 10 2014 12:23 GMT
#2352
On February 10 2014 21:21 Destructicon wrote:
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On February 10 2014 21:18 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:18 b0lt wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:17 ZAiNs wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:16 Elite_ wrote:
Reality had it won. Soulkey had no way to kill the BC...

Reality had no way to kill the Spores...

He just needed to save up 2 yamatos, and then either double yamato a spore, or yamato a queen if soulkey transfuses. It'd take like 3 hours to win the game, but he'd win eventually.

You can't save up 2 yamatos


Yes you can, Yamato is 100 energy each, you wait till BC is maxed on energy then shoot. However you first need to kill all the queens, so you spend 30 min killing those and another 30 waiting to get energy to yamato all the spores.

Its just too risky/dangerous.

Going for the draw was the right scenario. He's probably mentally exhausted as well, I think the only reason SK wanted to stay in the game was because of this, SK was hoping for reality to go for risky plays and make micro mistakes. Its a lot less mentally draining on the zerg player due to the free unit aspect
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 10 2014 12:23 GMT
#2353
On February 10 2014 21:22 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 21:21 Destructicon wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:18 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:18 b0lt wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:17 ZAiNs wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:16 Elite_ wrote:
Reality had it won. Soulkey had no way to kill the BC...

Reality had no way to kill the Spores...

He just needed to save up 2 yamatos, and then either double yamato a spore, or yamato a queen if soulkey transfuses. It'd take like 3 hours to win the game, but he'd win eventually.

You can't save up 2 yamatos


Yes you can, Yamato is 100 energy each, you wait till BC is maxed on energy then shoot. However you first need to kill all the queens, so you spend 30 min killing those and another 30 waiting to get energy to yamato all the spores.

Yamato's 125 -.-


no it's 100, it got buffed in HotS.
SamuelGreen
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden292 Posts
February 10 2014 12:23 GMT
#2354
On February 10 2014 21:20 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 21:19 Megapenthes wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:18 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:18 b0lt wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:17 ZAiNs wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:16 Elite_ wrote:
Reality had it won. Soulkey had no way to kill the BC...

Reality had no way to kill the Spores...

He just needed to save up 2 yamatos, and then either double yamato a spore, or yamato a queen if soulkey transfuses. It'd take like 3 hours to win the game, but he'd win eventually.

You can't save up 2 yamatos

You can and he did multiple times during that game.

200 energy max, 2 yamatos cost 250... unless the wiki is wrong


Wiki is wrong, did you even watch the game?
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
February 10 2014 12:23 GMT
#2355
On February 10 2014 21:21 Qikz wrote:
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On February 10 2014 21:19 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:18 ReMinD_ wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:12 Qikz wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:09 pmp10 wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:08 TheDwf wrote:
I don't get why you're all mad about this game, by the way. This kind of absurdity is exactly the needed data so that Blizzard cannot avoid the issue anymore. We need more of those games.

Who wants to bet that Blizzard intervention will make things better?


Blizzard intervention will say mech is at fault here and they'l revert the tank semi buff rather than nerf the swarmhost :\


Let's be honest here. Reality did nothing for first 40 minutes except build Planetaries and Missile Turrets. How do you suppose Zerg should break through that wall?

What should terran do? Move out and get backstabbed by mutas? Use Bio with the awesome new tanks on this map?


How about we force Soulkey to use proper units to break the turtle and not just run around with 21 swarmhosts making it impossible for reality to win.

We could force Blizz to create proper units. The players are not to blame imo. You play to win, how doesnt count.
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robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
February 10 2014 12:23 GMT
#2356
Lol Wolf.
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
February 10 2014 12:23 GMT
#2357
On February 10 2014 21:22 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 21:21 Destructicon wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:18 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:18 b0lt wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:17 ZAiNs wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:16 Elite_ wrote:
Reality had it won. Soulkey had no way to kill the BC...

Reality had no way to kill the Spores...

He just needed to save up 2 yamatos, and then either double yamato a spore, or yamato a queen if soulkey transfuses. It'd take like 3 hours to win the game, but he'd win eventually.

You can't save up 2 yamatos


Yes you can, Yamato is 100 energy each, you wait till BC is maxed on energy then shoot. However you first need to kill all the queens, so you spend 30 min killing those and another 30 waiting to get energy to yamato all the spores.

Yamato's 125 -.-


No it isn't, not any more, otherwise how do you explain Reality using 2 yamatos 1 after another on the same spore with less then 1 second between each other?
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
February 10 2014 12:23 GMT
#2358
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FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
February 10 2014 12:23 GMT
#2359
I admit I didn't watch most of the last hour or so, was only flicking back and forth between tabs, but why couldn't Reality just Yamato one unit every 90 seconds and win? Start with the Queens, then the Mutas etc...
Don't hate the player, hate the game
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-10 12:24:15
February 10 2014 12:23 GMT
#2360
DK obviously needs to lower yamato cost so you can drop 2 yamatos with 1 BC.
Oh it is actually 100 energy.. I never use BCs
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