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Poll: TaeJa vs MMATaeJa (14) 70% MMA (6) 30% 20 total votes Your vote: TaeJa vs MMA (Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): MMA
Poll: HerO vs SanHerO (12) 60% San (8) 40% 20 total votes Your vote: HerO vs San (Vote): HerO
(Vote): San
Poll: HyuN vs MCHyuN (11) 61% MC (7) 39% 18 total votes Your vote: HyuN vs MC (Vote): HyuN
(Vote): MC
Poll: INnoVation vs LifeLife (14) 64% INnoVation (8) 36% 22 total votes Your vote: INnoVation vs Life (Vote): INnoVation
(Vote): Life
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no sore muscles for Take and Naruto yet? :D
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Oh wow this is already starting
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Well Taeja... good opening haha
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hahahaha what the hell
IdrA gg timing
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On January 25 2014 22:18 Firestorm wrote:
What happened?
Taeja flew across the map with two banshees and MMA didn't build any marines.
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Life vs Innovation, god, GOD
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I don't know if I will be able to update the thread all day long. I made the thread because no one did it. :/
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Shitttt I didn't realize this was starting so early or I would've made the thread. If you message a mod I will take the thread if you want.
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MMA playing mech seems wrong to me.
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Taeja looks so much better than MMA.
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Holy crap MMA looks off today. I can't remember, is this live? Is MMA playing on Europe server from Korea since Taeja had the show-match?
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On January 25 2014 22:32 Gorlin wrote:
Holy crap MMA looks off today. I can't remember, is this live? Is MMA playing on Europe server from Korea since Taeja had the show-match?
It's casted from replays, and played on NA server if EU vs KR iirc.
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On January 25 2014 22:32 Gorlin wrote:
Holy crap MMA looks off today. I can't remember, is this live? Is MMA playing on Europe server from Korea since Taeja had the show-match?
It's casted from replays.
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On January 25 2014 22:32 ZenithM wrote:
Taeja looks so much better than MMA.
He's looked better for the past 2 years.
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On January 25 2014 22:32 ZenithM wrote:
Taeja looks so much better than MMA.
While I definitely would not argue that MMA is better, I do think MMA is playing very poorly rather than this being a result of a large skill gap. Their HotS record is 6-5 in favor of MMA before this match.
I also think Taeja is the pretty clear best in the world, so I don't think many players look as good as he does.
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Lol That Idra GG timing. WTF
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Taeja being nice to the viewers
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I think the only player so far not leaving early all the time was Dayshi. The Koreans seem to not take this tournament serious
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Uggg MMA leaving his tanks undefended just barely
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gg, losing those 2 tanks and failing the push costed MMM
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On January 25 2014 22:46 Yello wrote:
I think the only player so far not leaving early all the time was Dayshi. The Koreans seem to not take this tournament serious
Life stuck in there for a long while
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Pretty nice base trade, the high ground drop was cool by MMA, but not enough. Man, MMA really could have taken that game had he executed that push a bit better earlier. I'm also not sure his doom drop was the best idea, since I think he could have defended, and he probably should have known that he had the smaller army had it gone to a base trade.
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@Darkhoarse : Would you mind if I let you update the thread for the day ? I have to go. :/
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On January 25 2014 23:03 Aeromi wrote:
@Darkhoarse : Would you mind if I let you update the thread for the day ? I have to go. :/
For sure!
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On January 25 2014 23:04 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 23:03 Aeromi wrote:
@Darkhoarse : Would you mind if I let you update the thread for the day ? I have to go. :/ For sure!
Thanks ! 
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LR tag-teaming. You guys are alright.
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woah, sick Saturday morning tournament out of nowhere
hopefully HerO has fixed his PvP to be of more use to IM in SPL
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Geez, this 3gate pressure vs 3gate blink build order win has been happening so much recently
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TT HerO seems to lose to this a lot in PvP
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I really don't get why the korean protoss players keep doing this blink build, it's incredibly coinflippy
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Oboy, look at all them fireworks ^^
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This was a great PvP. I've been critical of HerO's PvP but he played this one amazingly
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On January 25 2014 23:51 Darkhoarse wrote:
All the lasers.
But there were a healthy amount of tempests there. One should bring tempest into a laser fight.
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On January 25 2014 22:10 Yello wrote:
no sore muscles for Take and Naruto yet? :D
fucking sore muscles! :D
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How's lag with you guys? I have to watch on low and it's still bad... 
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if that would be a qualifier, san would have kept the oracle scouting around for probes wanting to put down Pylons, after he saw the twilight, to be save against Blink by building Immortals and against DTs.
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HerO won a PvP against someone good! yay
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I think Taeja vs HerO will be nice this time!
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Well I get back in time to see MC, the boss toss, I can live with that.
On another note, what's the music played on Take's stream? The epic one, not the modern thingy.
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On January 25 2014 23:58 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 22:10 Yello wrote:
no sore muscles for Take and Naruto yet? :D fucking sore muscles! :D
you are doing a great job! With the push-ups and with the casting :p
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What opening did MC do to force Hyun to mess up early?
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On January 26 2014 00:30 Zheryn wrote:
What opening did MC do to force Hyun to mess up early?
HyuN went pool 10.
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Who's casting with Rotti?
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Oh I think it's Babyknight.
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Funny how any of these quarterfinals could be a grand finals set of players at a WCS.
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On January 26 2014 00:50 IntoTheheart wrote:
Funny how any of these quarterfinals could be a grand finals set of players at a WCS.
Yeah the talent in this tournament is pretty crazy.
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Why do protoss players turn on the void ray charge for no reason :/
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Intimidation, Grubby's theory anyway!
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3are these live? Or still replays?
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MC is channeling his inner Genius.
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Oh god what terrible games I am witnessing...
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On January 26 2014 01:03 Amestir wrote:
3are these live? Or still replays?
Replays.
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On January 26 2014 01:03 Amestir wrote:
3are these live? Or still replays?
casted from replays
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On January 26 2014 01:08 AlternativeEgo wrote:
MC swept the HyuN?! :o
Yeah Hyun looked a little off and MC looked fairly sharp.
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Skytoss is just annoying to watch. Either Zerg gets rolled over or it turns into a Swarmhost + Viper + Spore bullshit. But I like MC, so I'm happy he won :-P
And now: LIFE VS INNOVATION!
Hell yeah!
Even though it should be rather one sided after the latest results (Life winning everything, Innovation losing everything), I still think Innovation is insanely strong in TvZ :-P
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Gogo Life 
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Life v Inno is just... the pinnacle of ZvT
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MC too good... let's see the Innovation vs. Life now :D
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Welp that's a strong timing.
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That looked so.....easy ?!
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Really solid timing by Innovation there.
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Lifuuuuu
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Innovations mechanics are just insanely good.
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On January 26 2014 01:28 NovaMB wrote:
That looked so.....easy ?!
It's always "easy" if you catch you're opponent completely off guard.
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I never understand why are Zerg players underestimating those Terran timings. None of the Pro Zerg players upgrade Bane speed ASAP after Lair, they would rather Drone to 100 Drones and get 4 bases and then they get Spire AND THEN they get Bane speed, and until then you die like 10 times to 30 Marine Push...
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Inno just caught Life completely off guard. Well done by innovation, but... wasn't too impressive imo, it's basically just that Life didn't see it coming and his Baneling Nest was pretty late.
On January 26 2014 01:30 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I never understand why are Zerg players underestimating those Terran timings. None of the Pro Zerg players upgrade Bane speed ASAP after Lair, they would rather Drone to 100 Drones and get 4 bases and then we got Spire AND THEN we got Bane speed, and until then you die like 10 times to 30 Marine Push...
I think he couldn't upgrade Baneling speed, because the baneling nest just finished right before Innovation attacked if I'm not mistaken.
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Yah he made a really late baneling nest. He was just too greedy and Inno took advantage of it.
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Thats the closest 2rax I have ever seen
wait fuck, should pay attention
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On January 26 2014 01:30 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I never understand why are Zerg players underestimating those Terran timings. None of the Pro Zerg players upgrade Bane speed ASAP after Lair, they would rather Drone to 100 Drones and get 4 bases and then they get Spire AND THEN they get Bane speed, and until then you die like 10 times to 30 Marine Push...
Its a meta thing, even the 3 CC super eco build has a couple of variations, there are some that can hit some timings sooner, and some later. Zergs adapt and learn how to hold the early pushes, terran stops doing them and starts going a bit greedier, zergs adapt by going a bit more greedy themselves, terran switch back to earlier timings, its just how the wheel rolls.
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On January 26 2014 01:30 Swisslink wrote:
I think he couldn't upgrade Baneling speed, because the baneling nest just finished right before Innovation attacked if I'm not mistaken.
I know, that is exactly my point. Wasting 50 gas on Baneling nest while you are upgrading Lair doesn't do anything to your build.
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Wow I learned a lesson today.
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On January 26 2014 01:30 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I never understand why are Zerg players underestimating those Terran timings. None of the Pro Zerg players upgrade Bane speed ASAP after Lair, they would rather Drone to 100 Drones and get 4 bases and then they get Spire AND THEN they get Bane speed, and until then you die like 10 times to 30 Marine Push...
Your baneling nest is not finished when the lair finishes for normal builds.
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Well this isn't going so well.
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innovation pulling full naama
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Dayummm Innovation.
On January 26 2014 01:40 Rescawen wrote:
innovation pulling full naama
What does this mean?
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Nicely done by Innovation, I love those small tank pushes on this map, one of the few ways I get to see marine tank again.
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Well Life just put himself way behind with the hatch in Inno's natural haha
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On January 26 2014 01:41 Topin wrote:
inno too good for lifu
Which is why Life has a winning record against him.
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On January 26 2014 01:38 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 01:30 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I never understand why are Zerg players underestimating those Terran timings. None of the Pro Zerg players upgrade Bane speed ASAP after Lair, they would rather Drone to 100 Drones and get 4 bases and then they get Spire AND THEN they get Bane speed, and until then you die like 10 times to 30 Marine Push... Your baneling nest is not finished when the lair finishes for normal builds.
My point exactly, because it is too costly to waste 50 more gas and play it a bit safer?
What a lackluster games we have today.
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Life is used to being 2 maps down :-P
Everything's still possible. But Innovation's style seems to counter Lifes style quite hard so far. :D
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On January 26 2014 01:30 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I never understand why are Zerg players underestimating those Terran timings. None of the Pro Zerg players upgrade Bane speed ASAP after Lair, they would rather Drone to 100 Drones and get 4 bases and then they get Spire AND THEN they get Bane speed, and until then you die like 10 times to 30 Marine Push...
I never understand why random forum posters are so confident in critiquing build orders that are very obviously meticulously planned according to cost/benefit analysis, but hey it happens all the time so...
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"2 is 50% more than 1". ~Rotterdam >.<
Anyways, one hell of a hold by Innovation!
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On January 26 2014 01:49 sparklyresidue wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 01:30 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I never understand why are Zerg players underestimating those Terran timings. None of the Pro Zerg players upgrade Bane speed ASAP after Lair, they would rather Drone to 100 Drones and get 4 bases and then they get Spire AND THEN they get Bane speed, and until then you die like 10 times to 30 Marine Push... I never understand why random forum posters are so confident in critiquing build orders that are very obviously meticulously planned according to cost/benefit analysis, but hey it happens all the time so...
I never understand why you think that pro players are gods among us mere mortals. I am critiquing them because I am pissed how something so small could change the game from loss to win and it wouldn't even fuck up his build order too much. And later I am seeing more and more these builds that just straight up die because they want to play as greedy as possible, and because they are assuming way too much instead of actually thinking.
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On January 26 2014 01:50 Ramiz1989 wrote:
What are these terrible games...
Seeing amazing holds isn't terrible
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On January 26 2014 01:42 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 01:38 Zheryn wrote:On January 26 2014 01:30 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I never understand why are Zerg players underestimating those Terran timings. None of the Pro Zerg players upgrade Bane speed ASAP after Lair, they would rather Drone to 100 Drones and get 4 bases and then they get Spire AND THEN they get Bane speed, and until then you die like 10 times to 30 Marine Push... Your baneling nest is not finished when the lair finishes for normal builds. My point exactly, because it is too costly to waste 50 more gas and play it a bit safer? What a lackluster games we have today.
You don't need a quick baneling nest vs a 3cc build and even if you would cut your econ to "play safe" you can't afford spire, +2/+2, baneling speed etc all at once anyway. It's all up to scouting, and usually when you scout 3cc you cut the early bane nest/speed and get more econ/other upgrades etc instead.
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Life looks really bad in these games O_O
I don't even feel like Innovation plays that INSANELY well, it's just that Life screws up quite hard...
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Damn, Innovation was on point with his micro there, when I saw the ling flood with banes I thought it was going to game 4 for sure.
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Haven't been able to watch Life's games in a long time due to military service and now that I finally get to see some, he gets completely destroyed. Meh.
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Great hold by Innovation in that last game.
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Hmm, Innovation isnt bad against units that don't have blink
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I'm disapointed in Life.
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WP by Inno but Life was quite disappointing today.
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On January 26 2014 01:50 Ramiz1989 wrote:What are these terrible games... Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 01:49 sparklyresidue wrote:On January 26 2014 01:30 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I never understand why are Zerg players underestimating those Terran timings. None of the Pro Zerg players upgrade Bane speed ASAP after Lair, they would rather Drone to 100 Drones and get 4 bases and then they get Spire AND THEN they get Bane speed, and until then you die like 10 times to 30 Marine Push... I never understand why random forum posters are so confident in critiquing build orders that are very obviously meticulously planned according to cost/benefit analysis, but hey it happens all the time so... I never understand why you think that pro players are gods among us mere mortals. I am critiquing them because I am pissed how something so small could change the game from loss to win and it wouldn't even fuck up his build order too much. And later I am seeing more and more these builds that just straight up die because they want to play as greedy as possible, and because they are assuming way too much instead of actually thinking.
Plz go be Code S progamer
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On January 26 2014 01:55 Keeemy wrote:
Haven't been able to watch Life's games in a long time due to military service and now that I finally get to see some, he gets completely destroyed. Meh.
Looked way better in every other tournament lately. I think he just had a bad day when these games were played. His play just wasn't on point today...
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On January 26 2014 01:53 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 01:42 Ramiz1989 wrote:On January 26 2014 01:38 Zheryn wrote:On January 26 2014 01:30 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I never understand why are Zerg players underestimating those Terran timings. None of the Pro Zerg players upgrade Bane speed ASAP after Lair, they would rather Drone to 100 Drones and get 4 bases and then they get Spire AND THEN they get Bane speed, and until then you die like 10 times to 30 Marine Push... Your baneling nest is not finished when the lair finishes for normal builds. My point exactly, because it is too costly to waste 50 more gas and play it a bit safer? What a lackluster games we have today. You don't need a quick baneling nest vs a 3cc build and even if you would cut your econ to "play safe" you can't afford spire, +2/+2, baneling speed etc all at once anyway. It's all up to scouting, and usually when you scout 3cc you cut the early bane nest/speed and get more econ/other upgrades etc instead.
I know that you can't get all, but you could at least get Baneling nest. Life's Baneling nest was way too late in that first game.
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On January 26 2014 01:57 Darkhoarse wrote:Kind of a shitty showing by Life. Oh well. Decent games today! The classic Liquid teamkill  TaeJa vs.  HerO for the first semifinal, and MC vs INnoVation for the second!
Don't TaeJa and HerO play against each other all the time in tournaments? :S
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On January 26 2014 01:57 Bagration wrote:
I'll be quite upset if MC beats Innovation.
Gumba level upset? 
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On January 26 2014 01:58 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 01:57 Darkhoarse wrote:Kind of a shitty showing by Life. Oh well. Decent games today! The classic Liquid teamkill TaeJa vs. HerO for the first semifinal, and MC vs INnoVation for the second! Don't TaeJa and HerO play against each other all the time in tournaments? :S
They've met 8 times in matches, and they are 4-4. HerO is 14-11 in games!
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On January 26 2014 01:59 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 01:58 IntoTheheart wrote:On January 26 2014 01:57 Darkhoarse wrote:Kind of a shitty showing by Life. Oh well. Decent games today! The classic Liquid teamkill TaeJa vs. HerO for the first semifinal, and MC vs INnoVation for the second! Don't TaeJa and HerO play against each other all the time in tournaments? :S They've met 8 times in matches, and they are 4-4. HerO is 14-11 in games!
Just 8 matches? Feels like a lot more than that.
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On January 26 2014 01:56 sparklyresidue wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 01:50 Ramiz1989 wrote:What are these terrible games... On January 26 2014 01:49 sparklyresidue wrote:On January 26 2014 01:30 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I never understand why are Zerg players underestimating those Terran timings. None of the Pro Zerg players upgrade Bane speed ASAP after Lair, they would rather Drone to 100 Drones and get 4 bases and then they get Spire AND THEN they get Bane speed, and until then you die like 10 times to 30 Marine Push... I never understand why random forum posters are so confident in critiquing build orders that are very obviously meticulously planned according to cost/benefit analysis, but hey it happens all the time so... I never understand why you think that pro players are gods among us mere mortals. I am critiquing them because I am pissed how something so small could change the game from loss to win and it wouldn't even fuck up his build order too much. And later I am seeing more and more these builds that just straight up die because they want to play as greedy as possible, and because they are assuming way too much instead of actually thinking. Plz go be Code S progamer
Funny thing is how you think that someone who doesn't have mechanical skill or time to be a progamer can't understand things that progamers are doing.
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On January 26 2014 01:55 Keeemy wrote:
Haven't been able to watch Life's games in a long time due to military service and now that I finally get to see some, he gets completely destroyed. Meh.
i wanted to write mean things about fanboyism and life and you, but you're in the army now, you're a man. Respect > forum trolling
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On January 26 2014 01:58 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 01:57 Darkhoarse wrote:Kind of a shitty showing by Life. Oh well. Decent games today! The classic Liquid teamkill TaeJa vs. HerO for the first semifinal, and MC vs INnoVation for the second! Don't TaeJa and HerO play against each other all the time in tournaments? :S
Its one of those timeless rivalries, and its probably the longest lasting one in SC2 so far.
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On January 26 2014 02:00 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 01:59 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 26 2014 01:58 IntoTheheart wrote:On January 26 2014 01:57 Darkhoarse wrote:Kind of a shitty showing by Life. Oh well. Decent games today! The classic Liquid teamkill TaeJa vs. HerO for the first semifinal, and MC vs INnoVation for the second! Don't TaeJa and HerO play against each other all the time in tournaments? :S They've met 8 times in matches, and they are 4-4. HerO is 14-11 in games! Just 8 matches? Feels like a lot more than that.
8 matches is a lot can you remind me other series with 8 matches?
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On January 26 2014 01:33 Destructicon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 01:30 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I never understand why are Zerg players underestimating those Terran timings. None of the Pro Zerg players upgrade Bane speed ASAP after Lair, they would rather Drone to 100 Drones and get 4 bases and then they get Spire AND THEN they get Bane speed, and until then you die like 10 times to 30 Marine Push... Its a meta thing, even the 3 CC super eco build has a couple of variations, there are some that can hit some timings sooner, and some later. Zergs adapt and learn how to hold the early pushes, terran stops doing them and starts going a bit greedier, zergs adapt by going a bit more greedy themselves, terran switch back to earlier timings, its just how the wheel rolls.
I don't get it. I mean I get the concept of "meta" but after a while they have covered most bases and it comes full circle. After that they seem like a bunch of goldfish sheep (have answer, forget answer, do what others do). They can still scout. They have the same tools. They can no longer excuse it on the "meta". This is the point when I could go on questioning their intelligence, but this post is already feeling way harsher than I meant it to be. Now I'm pretty dumb but I hope that I made a fairly reasonable point somehow. It's Saturday. And I'm on my way to the pub. 
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On January 26 2014 02:03 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 01:33 Destructicon wrote:On January 26 2014 01:30 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I never understand why are Zerg players underestimating those Terran timings. None of the Pro Zerg players upgrade Bane speed ASAP after Lair, they would rather Drone to 100 Drones and get 4 bases and then they get Spire AND THEN they get Bane speed, and until then you die like 10 times to 30 Marine Push... Its a meta thing, even the 3 CC super eco build has a couple of variations, there are some that can hit some timings sooner, and some later. Zergs adapt and learn how to hold the early pushes, terran stops doing them and starts going a bit greedier, zergs adapt by going a bit more greedy themselves, terran switch back to earlier timings, its just how the wheel rolls. I don't get it. I mean I get the concept of "meta" but after a while they have covered most bases and it comes full circle. After that they seem like a bunch of goldfish sheep (have answer, forget answer, do what others do). They can still scout. They have the same tools. They can no longer excuse it on the "meta". This is the point when I could go on questioning their intelligence, but this post is already feeling way harsher than I meant it to be. Now I'm pretty dumb but I hope that I made a fairly reasonable point somehow. It's Saturday. And I'm on my way to the pub.
Someone is on the same page as me.
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On January 26 2014 02:00 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 01:59 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 26 2014 01:58 IntoTheheart wrote:On January 26 2014 01:57 Darkhoarse wrote:Kind of a shitty showing by Life. Oh well. Decent games today! The classic Liquid teamkill TaeJa vs. HerO for the first semifinal, and MC vs INnoVation for the second! Don't TaeJa and HerO play against each other all the time in tournaments? :S They've met 8 times in matches, and they are 4-4. HerO is 14-11 in games! Just 8 matches? Feels like a lot more than that.
The thing is though they meet in a lot of big tournaments in quarterfinals, semis, finals, etc. So they are usually memorable matchups!
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On January 26 2014 02:00 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 01:56 sparklyresidue wrote:On January 26 2014 01:50 Ramiz1989 wrote:What are these terrible games... On January 26 2014 01:49 sparklyresidue wrote:On January 26 2014 01:30 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I never understand why are Zerg players underestimating those Terran timings. None of the Pro Zerg players upgrade Bane speed ASAP after Lair, they would rather Drone to 100 Drones and get 4 bases and then they get Spire AND THEN they get Bane speed, and until then you die like 10 times to 30 Marine Push... I never understand why random forum posters are so confident in critiquing build orders that are very obviously meticulously planned according to cost/benefit analysis, but hey it happens all the time so... I never understand why you think that pro players are gods among us mere mortals. I am critiquing them because I am pissed how something so small could change the game from loss to win and it wouldn't even fuck up his build order too much. And later I am seeing more and more these builds that just straight up die because they want to play as greedy as possible, and because they are assuming way too much instead of actually thinking. Plz go be Code S progamer Funny thing is how you think that someone who doesn't have mechanical skill or time to be a progamer can't understand things that progamers are doing.
I don't totally disagree that Life's build was super greedy, so I'm not implying he's above all criticism, but I also don't think your quick analysis of the situation means you understand the risks and benefits of Life's build as well as he does. You also see the game from the obs viewpoint and not whatever Life has or hasn't noticed. Just an irritant of mine.
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On January 26 2014 01:57 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 01:53 Zheryn wrote:On January 26 2014 01:42 Ramiz1989 wrote:On January 26 2014 01:38 Zheryn wrote:On January 26 2014 01:30 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I never understand why are Zerg players underestimating those Terran timings. None of the Pro Zerg players upgrade Bane speed ASAP after Lair, they would rather Drone to 100 Drones and get 4 bases and then they get Spire AND THEN they get Bane speed, and until then you die like 10 times to 30 Marine Push... Your baneling nest is not finished when the lair finishes for normal builds. My point exactly, because it is too costly to waste 50 more gas and play it a bit safer? What a lackluster games we have today. You don't need a quick baneling nest vs a 3cc build and even if you would cut your econ to "play safe" you can't afford spire, +2/+2, baneling speed etc all at once anyway. It's all up to scouting, and usually when you scout 3cc you cut the early bane nest/speed and get more econ/other upgrades etc instead. I know that you can't get all, but you could at least get Baneling nest. Life's Baneling nest was way too late in that first game.
Might have been, might have been intentional, we'll never know. It's hard to criticize progamers BOs when we don't know all of their thoughts behind them, what they believe about the other player, what the scouted etc. You will always try to cut as many corners to get small leads since the level of play is so high. You can say "play safe" about anything; "why didn't he just build a robo to be safe, why didn't he get a turret for DTs instead of losing 15 workers" etc, but if you always want to play safe against everything, you'll end up behind.
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On January 26 2014 01:58 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 01:57 Bagration wrote:
I'll be quite upset if MC beats Innovation. Gumba level upset?
Never gonna happen.
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On January 26 2014 02:32 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 01:58 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 26 2014 01:57 Bagration wrote:
I'll be quite upset if MC beats Innovation. Gumba level upset? Never gonna happen. Inoooooo
You are unbanned ? :O
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On January 26 2014 03:07 ReMinD_ wrote:
How did Life lose?
game 1 was pretty standard 3 cc stuff by innovation. Life didn't prepare properly for innovations first push and got rolled. Was kind sloppy from Life.
Game 2 was weird. Life went proxy nat hatch and expand to gold, innovation made 2 rax to kill it then a bunch of weird stuff happened. WAtch it for weird novelty value
game 3 Life tried to ling bane innovation on 20 drones. Innovation barely held but he had 3 OC's so when his macro kicked in life got rolled.
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Another Liquid teamkill between HerO and Taeja. Why am I not surprised?
Rooting for the Liquid boys as always (leaning more towards HerO, since Taeja just had his 4000$ from Dreamhack)
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If Taeja beats Hero and innovation beats MC, i can totally imagine what will happen next haha
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On January 26 2014 04:14 mongmong wrote:
If Taeja beats Hero and innovation beats MC, i can totally imagine what will happen next haha
TaeJa 4-0 Innovation?
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innovation looking like his terminator self in those games.
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Inno gonna crush MC so badly lol
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On January 26 2014 10:04 GumBa wrote:
Inno gonna crush MC so badly lol
MC might go Duckdeok style.
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On January 26 2014 10:08 Darkhoarse wrote:MC might go Duckdeok style.
No.
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