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Elite_
United States4259 Posts
On January 23 2014 21:46 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Dream could do it if he's in prime form. Especially given how unimpressive Hydra's been in SPL. Ryung, I'm afraid, is a dead man Nope. Ryung will advance from his group in first place. | ||
Destructicon
4713 Posts
On January 23 2014 21:50 liberate71 wrote: Hang on - the GSL win is worth $65k now?? Yes it is, GOM decided to dump most of the money redistributed from seasonal finals right into the NR1 spot. | ||
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Panozen
248 Posts
On January 23 2014 21:49 sAsImre wrote: show me the 7% part that's going on in GSL atm. I agree with P being overpowered but the 7% isn't representative for the whole population lol. Just as if you could say P is UP since T is winning more vs P in proleague atm... That's just generalizing | ||
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Elite_
United States4259 Posts
On January 23 2014 21:51 Shellshock wrote: Yeah they upped it for 2014 but it's really top heavy It's so top heavy that if you place anywhere below first place you get more money in AM/EU for that placement. | ||
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On January 23 2014 21:51 Destructicon wrote: Yes it is, GOM decided to dump most of the money redistributed from seasonal finals right into the NR1 spot. On January 23 2014 21:51 Shellshock wrote: Yeah they upped it for 2014 but it's really top heavy Yeah holy crap, 2nd is half what it was :| | ||
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
On January 23 2014 21:51 Elite_ wrote: Nope. Ryung will advance from his group in first place. Yeah and I'm a blue eye white dragon. No terran will advance tomorrow  | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On January 23 2014 21:53 Tchado wrote: Yeah and I'm a blue eye white dragon. No terran will advance tomorrow Group seems fairly wide open to me imo. I think Ryung was struggling a little with zerg before but that was a few months ago so idk how he's doing now. Personally I went with TRUE and Dream because I think Dream has very good TvZ | ||
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Destructicon
4713 Posts
On January 23 2014 21:53 Tchado wrote: Yeah and I'm a blue eye white dragon. No terran will advance tomorrow Its a two terran and two zerg, group and Ryung + Dream are solid competitors, while their opposition isn't as strong, they dodged Life, Curious, DRG and Symbol. Both Ryung and Dream have a huge shot, if we are fortunate we might get both in GSL. | ||
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plogamer
Canada3132 Posts
On January 23 2014 21:42 shadymmj wrote: i try to refrain from making balance comments, but doesn't anyone notice that all sora does is defend with warp ins, POs and frankly uncallable mind games such as if and when he will all-in, and then takes just one engagement to win? all the drops were deflected with ease despite sora's army not being in a good position, nor did he really scout them. hack was undoubtedly the more active player there. So many of the Protoss TLers pan the games where Terrans lose as the Terran playing badly - without really explaining how. I think you raise some valid points - like sora's army positioning. For my part, I do focus on where the Terran Pros could have done better - like positioning vikings over dead-space, utilizing flanks instead of getting choked in with your whole army in an uncomfortable position,etc. | ||
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Creager
Germany1916 Posts
On January 23 2014 21:50 Destructicon wrote: Irrelevant, totally different games and times. Player base was smaller then it is now, information sharing wasn't as developed and the very way the game plays and functions is radically different. Yeah, couldn't agree more here, Macro mechanics in BW are also way more similar to each other without warp-in and inject... And with the frequent patching of SC2 in the past they already changed A LOT of things (quite a chunk of them unnecessary, I feel), so I think, there are certain aspects that need to be adressed and there's just no way of waiting until the game develops and players figure out stuff by themselves (I mean, look at TvP, what's left for Terran to check out?! Since 2010?!) | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On January 23 2014 21:45 NovaMB wrote: PvT 29–10 (74.36%) 1-14 in boX (7.14%) Just checked all the GSLs in all the matchups... If this stays that way, its going to be the most onesided matchup in the history of GSL. Worse than Z>P in GSL Open Season 2, T>P GSL Jan 2011, P>Z Jan 2011 (all breaking the 70%). And with only 3 Terrans in, I doubt that we will see so enough TvPs for those stats to change to less than 65%. | ||
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Yello
Germany7411 Posts
On January 23 2014 21:54 Shellshock wrote: Group seems fairly wide open to me imo. I think Ryung was struggling a little with zerg before but that was a few months ago so idk how he's doing now. Personally I went with TRUE and Dream because I think Dream has very good TvZ since almost every Terran has switched to mech TvZ now we really can't tell how good those Terrans will play. I think the results are really unpredictable for tomorrow since we have mostly seen bio from those guys and they have to play a completely different style now | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On January 23 2014 21:59 Yello wrote: since almost every Terran has switched to mech TvZ now we really can't tell how good those Terrans will play. I think the results are really unpredictable for tomorrow since we have mostly seen bio from those guys and they have to play a completely different style now That's true. I guess I didn't think about the changes in playstyle and some of these guys we haven't really seen too much since WCS ended last year | ||
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
On January 23 2014 21:58 Big J wrote: Just checked all the GSLs in all the matchups... If this stays that way, its going to be the most onesided matchup in the history of GSL. Worse than Z>P in GSL Open Season 2, T>P GSL Jan 2011, P>Z Jan 2011 (all breaking the 70%). And with only 3 Terrans in, I doubt that we will see so enough TvPs for those stats to change to less than 65%. Also Maru could end up vs a few Zs and one strong P | ||
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
On January 23 2014 21:54 Shellshock wrote: Group seems fairly wide open to me imo. I think Ryung was struggling a little with zerg before but that was a few months ago so idk how he's doing now. Personally I went with TRUE and Dream because I think Dream has very good TvZ Havnt seen a lot from Hydra, but i'd say Ryung only advances if he manages to somehow get Dream in a TvT for a spot. Otherwise True/Hack looks like a safe bet Edit: Dream not Hack | ||
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Destructicon
4713 Posts
On January 23 2014 21:59 Yello wrote: since almost every Terran has switched to mech TvZ now we really can't tell how good those Terrans will play. I think the results are really unpredictable for tomorrow since we have mostly seen bio from those guys and they have to play a completely different style now You forget Ryung had a really solid mech when he needed to pull it out, he is more then capable. | ||
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
On January 23 2014 22:00 BlackCompany wrote: Havnt seen a lot from Hydra, but i'd say Ryung only advances if he manages to somehow get Hack in a TvT for a spot. Otherwise True/Hack looks like a safe bet Wasnt Dream very hyped by all when the 4M movement began? I havent heard from him since then. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
And yet Terrans only complain about one of these. Bias much. | ||
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Deleted User 137586
7859 Posts
On January 23 2014 22:05 -Celestial- wrote: Zerg is currently at a 7/11 64% rate of qualifying to Code S. Roughly on par with the 11/16 69% qualification rate for Protoss. And yet Terrans only complain about one of these. Bias much. You're desperate, aren't you. TvZ is currently 10 v 11, so 48% with one game separating them. That's a bit different from the Furthermore, Supernova and Bbyong made it into Code S by beating zergs. While not a single terran who had to play against a P made it into Code S. While I don't think everything is alright in the TvZ MU after the WM nerf, this Code A does not show us that there's a problem. | ||
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
On January 23 2014 22:01 gingerfluffmuff wrote: Wasnt Dream very hyped by all when the 4M movement began? I havent heard from him since then. Dream is like a rollercoaster, he shows amazing games but then falls down again and stays basicly hidden for months. Then he is amazing again for a short period and falls down again.. I dont know what to expect from Dream, but i rememmber that he was pretty good at TvZ as you did aswell Oh and was it Dream or Hack that was so bad at TvT? One of them had like a 20% TvT winrate.. | ||
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