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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
January 22 2014 12:43 GMT
#1061
On January 22 2014 21:38 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 21:37 Wombat_NI wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:34 sAsImre wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:34 bo1b wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:30 Wombat_NI wrote:
Zerg ZvP in latter day WoL was pretty horrific. Likely to have gone the same way if it had stayed with Swarmturtle being more figured out

Thats pretty much because protoss is a fucking useless race. It doesn't really have options other then: gimmicky but 'balanced', op or weak. I think zvp will swing pretty hilariously in favor of zerg soon, and tvp will only get worse. Such a disgusting race.


once Z will figured out SH builds it'll be really bad for P.

I don't think it'll be any worse than WoL in terms of Protoss being able to win with timings, there are too many holes that need plugged with the SH style for it to be impregnable


i don't know but if it's the case god it'll be ugly. and if ZvP become a timing fest again it won't be that good either.

I honestly don't think theres another option. Maybe it's just me but whenever I play vs protoss on zerg it honestly feels like I have to run through a bunch of checklists and if I don't fuck up too badly there isn't really anything they can do. Granted I'm low masters so I'm sure there are some differences at the top end, and its possible my vP is just carrying me a bit but still.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
January 22 2014 12:44 GMT
#1062
On January 22 2014 21:42 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 21:41 AxionSteel wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:36 sAsImre wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:35 AxionSteel wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:33 sAsImre wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:32 AxionSteel wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:30 Fusilero wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:29 Noonius wrote:
pvp is so weird, 9 min in and both are still on 1 base with no intention of expanding and doing no damage to each other

Welcome to PvP, where the builds are made up and the bases don't matter. Whose probe is it anyway
On January 22 2014 21:30 Wombat_NI wrote:
Zerg ZvP in latter day WoL was pretty horrific. Likely to have gone the same way if it had stayed with Swarmturtle being more figured out

Daybreak + late WoL ZvP. Oh god


Any map + late WoL ZvT. Oh god


very late WoL ZvT post IT nerf was ok.


I can't recall terran doing much better until HoTS...



Even bomber was playing lategame at the end, you could take decent fights. Polt/Gumiho had some of the best TvZ games in late WoL


I agree to disagree! cbf looking for stats, but I would be pretty sure it was zerg favoured!


you're probably right but i think the worst part was before the IT/fungal nerf.

Of course, all it took to beat a full BC/raven army was infestors only (Bomber vs Freaky)
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
January 22 2014 12:46 GMT
#1063
On January 22 2014 21:41 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 21:36 sAsImre wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:35 AxionSteel wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:33 sAsImre wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:32 AxionSteel wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:30 Fusilero wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:29 Noonius wrote:
pvp is so weird, 9 min in and both are still on 1 base with no intention of expanding and doing no damage to each other

Welcome to PvP, where the builds are made up and the bases don't matter. Whose probe is it anyway
On January 22 2014 21:30 Wombat_NI wrote:
Zerg ZvP in latter day WoL was pretty horrific. Likely to have gone the same way if it had stayed with Swarmturtle being more figured out

Daybreak + late WoL ZvP. Oh god


Any map + late WoL ZvT. Oh god


very late WoL ZvT post IT nerf was ok.


I can't recall terran doing much better until HoTS...



Even bomber was playing lategame at the end, you could take decent fights. Polt/Gumiho had some of the best TvZ games in late WoL


I agree to disagree! cbf looking for stats, but I would be pretty sure it was zerg favoured!

http://aligulac.com/reports/

According to this it was down around 45% a bit before hots came out, and then actually went over 50% before hots came out. I'm pretty sure the latter was aligulac taking beta games into account though

sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18774 Posts
January 22 2014 12:46 GMT
#1064
On January 22 2014 19:23 imrusty269 wrote:
herO so overrated haha


herO in Code S haha
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
January 22 2014 12:47 GMT
#1065
On January 22 2014 21:44 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 21:42 sAsImre wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:41 AxionSteel wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:36 sAsImre wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:35 AxionSteel wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:33 sAsImre wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:32 AxionSteel wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:30 Fusilero wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:29 Noonius wrote:
pvp is so weird, 9 min in and both are still on 1 base with no intention of expanding and doing no damage to each other

Welcome to PvP, where the builds are made up and the bases don't matter. Whose probe is it anyway
On January 22 2014 21:30 Wombat_NI wrote:
Zerg ZvP in latter day WoL was pretty horrific. Likely to have gone the same way if it had stayed with Swarmturtle being more figured out

Daybreak + late WoL ZvP. Oh god


Any map + late WoL ZvT. Oh god


very late WoL ZvT post IT nerf was ok.


I can't recall terran doing much better until HoTS...



Even bomber was playing lategame at the end, you could take decent fights. Polt/Gumiho had some of the best TvZ games in late WoL


I agree to disagree! cbf looking for stats, but I would be pretty sure it was zerg favoured!


you're probably right but i think the worst part was before the IT/fungal nerf.

Of course, all it took to beat a full BC/raven army was infestors only (Bomber vs Freaky)

rofl that game, and the game he played against the mass carriers

Still, he did give us that game vs life which was fucking amazing.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 22 2014 12:49 GMT
#1066
On January 22 2014 21:43 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 21:38 sAsImre wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:37 Wombat_NI wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:34 sAsImre wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:34 bo1b wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:30 Wombat_NI wrote:
Zerg ZvP in latter day WoL was pretty horrific. Likely to have gone the same way if it had stayed with Swarmturtle being more figured out

Thats pretty much because protoss is a fucking useless race. It doesn't really have options other then: gimmicky but 'balanced', op or weak. I think zvp will swing pretty hilariously in favor of zerg soon, and tvp will only get worse. Such a disgusting race.


once Z will figured out SH builds it'll be really bad for P.

I don't think it'll be any worse than WoL in terms of Protoss being able to win with timings, there are too many holes that need plugged with the SH style for it to be impregnable


i don't know but if it's the case god it'll be ugly. and if ZvP become a timing fest again it won't be that good either.

I honestly don't think theres another option. Maybe it's just me but whenever I play vs protoss on zerg it honestly feels like I have to run through a bunch of checklists and if I don't fuck up too badly there isn't really anything they can do. Granted I'm low masters so I'm sure there are some differences at the top end, and its possible my vP is just carrying me a bit but still.


you gotta what to do in order to win. Both the Z/P gm that i know and eu are respectively playing sh/doing timings atm so ...
Zest fanboy.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
January 22 2014 12:50 GMT
#1067
On January 22 2014 21:46 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 19:23 imrusty269 wrote:
herO so overrated haha


herO in Code S haha

Arguably the best player of CJ who won 2012 Proleague season 2, he may not be in shape in PL this season, but it's not really a surprise he was able to make it to code S imho.
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
January 22 2014 12:50 GMT
#1068
sigh i want TBLS in code S
hey man just curious
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 22 2014 12:51 GMT
#1069
I need to stop liquibetting on Terrans.
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
January 22 2014 12:52 GMT
#1070
This is so sad All the ZvP and PvP we will see this season :'(
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 22 2014 12:52 GMT
#1071
On January 22 2014 21:51 NovaMB wrote:
I need to stop liquibetting on Terrans.


Maru vT/vP will be a safe pick, nobody gonna practice vT anyway.
Zest fanboy.
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
January 22 2014 12:53 GMT
#1072
Just think...we might have a GSL Code S without a single TvT game... Holy shit...
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
January 22 2014 12:54 GMT
#1073
On January 22 2014 21:52 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 21:51 NovaMB wrote:
I need to stop liquibetting on Terrans.


Maru vT/vP will be a safe pick, nobody gonna practice vT anyway.

Just imagine 2-3 Terrans qualifying and all being in the same group.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8203 Posts
January 22 2014 12:54 GMT
#1074
I know everyone is disappointed Stork fumbled that last game (all credit to hero, he still could have won if Stork was playing his A game on that last map) but his improvement is definitely visible. Compared to where he was even a month or two ago he's looking great.

That last game looked like all nerves to me. He had a solid advantage with the earlier expo but I think the oracle really threw him off and it was downhill from there.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 22 2014 12:54 GMT
#1075
On January 22 2014 21:53 Dinotramp wrote:
Just think...we might have a GSL Code S without a single TvT game... Holy shit...

Bbyong vs. Maru grand finals. Believe!
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8203 Posts
January 22 2014 12:56 GMT
#1076
Also congratulations to CJ fans out there, keep your heads up! The bad times are getting better
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
January 22 2014 12:57 GMT
#1077
On January 22 2014 21:54 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 21:53 Dinotramp wrote:
Just think...we might have a GSL Code S without a single TvT game... Holy shit...

Bbyong vs. Maru grand finals. Believe!


That's so upsetting though. Look at Proleague recently, TvT and TvZ are so exciting and strategic right now. More so than ever in HotS I think yet we will not see any of that in Code S of the biggest league in the world. WTF?
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 22 2014 13:00 GMT
#1078
On January 22 2014 21:57 Dinotramp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 21:54 NovaMB wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:53 Dinotramp wrote:
Just think...we might have a GSL Code S without a single TvT game... Holy shit...

Bbyong vs. Maru grand finals. Believe!


That's so upsetting though. Look at Proleague recently, TvT and TvZ are so exciting and strategic right now. More so than ever in HotS I think yet we will not see any of that in Code S of the biggest league in the world. WTF?

Its going to be horrible. ZvP galore. And if the trend continues everything will be Swarm Hosts. But hey, the ladder is 50% so all is fine and dandy
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
January 22 2014 13:03 GMT
#1079
Stork fought well despite losing, congrats to herO!
Moderatorlickypiddy
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
January 22 2014 13:03 GMT
#1080
On January 22 2014 22:00 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 21:57 Dinotramp wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:54 NovaMB wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:53 Dinotramp wrote:
Just think...we might have a GSL Code S without a single TvT game... Holy shit...

Bbyong vs. Maru grand finals. Believe!


That's so upsetting though. Look at Proleague recently, TvT and TvZ are so exciting and strategic right now. More so than ever in HotS I think yet we will not see any of that in Code S of the biggest league in the world. WTF?

Its going to be horrible. ZvP galore. And if the trend continues everything will be Swarm Hosts. But hey, the ladder is 50% so all is fine and dandy

They can't surely. Even Blizzard who are famously bad at sorting things out, surely they must see this and think about changing the balance. Uugh. I cannot express how little interest I have in GSL now, I'll watch the groups with Terran's in but when it's just ZvP left, I'm out of there.
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
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