On January 22 2014 21:37 bo1b wrote:
Thats a mid 2013 jaedong vs protoss esque decision right there from stork
Thats a mid 2013 jaedong vs protoss esque decision right there from stork
it was more jd vT in mid 13 no ?
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On January 22 2014 21:37 bo1b wrote: Thats a mid 2013 jaedong vs protoss esque decision right there from stork it was more jd vT in mid 13 no ? | ||
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On January 22 2014 21:37 Wombat_NI wrote: Show nested quote + On January 22 2014 21:34 sAsImre wrote: On January 22 2014 21:34 bo1b wrote: On January 22 2014 21:30 Wombat_NI wrote: Zerg ZvP in latter day WoL was pretty horrific. Likely to have gone the same way if it had stayed with Swarmturtle being more figured out Thats pretty much because protoss is a fucking useless race. It doesn't really have options other then: gimmicky but 'balanced', op or weak. I think zvp will swing pretty hilariously in favor of zerg soon, and tvp will only get worse. Such a disgusting race. once Z will figured out SH builds it'll be really bad for P. I don't think it'll be any worse than WoL in terms of Protoss being able to win with timings, there are too many holes that need plugged with the SH style for it to be impregnable i don't know but if it's the case god it'll be ugly. and if ZvP become a timing fest again it won't be that good either. | ||
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On January 22 2014 21:36 sAsImre wrote: Show nested quote + On January 22 2014 21:35 AxionSteel wrote: On January 22 2014 21:33 sAsImre wrote: On January 22 2014 21:32 AxionSteel wrote: On January 22 2014 21:30 Fusilero wrote: On January 22 2014 21:29 Noonius wrote: pvp is so weird, 9 min in and both are still on 1 base with no intention of expanding and doing no damage to each other Welcome to PvP, where the builds are made up and the bases don't matter. Whose probe is it anyway On January 22 2014 21:30 Wombat_NI wrote: Zerg ZvP in latter day WoL was pretty horrific. Likely to have gone the same way if it had stayed with Swarmturtle being more figured out Daybreak + late WoL ZvP. Oh god Any map + late WoL ZvT. Oh god very late WoL ZvT post IT nerf was ok. I can't recall terran doing much better until HoTS... Even bomber was playing lategame at the end, you could take decent fights. Polt/Gumiho had some of the best TvZ games in late WoL Every Terran during the IPL5/LSC2 era that were competitive, had insane mechanics and used a specific unit or style to battle versus Zerg. Bomber used ravens, Polt had his 12 rine 3 tank production push or whatever... That was a funny period. | ||
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On January 22 2014 21:37 sAsImre wrote: Show nested quote + On January 22 2014 21:37 bo1b wrote: Thats a mid 2013 jaedong vs protoss esque decision right there from stork it was more jd vT in mid 13 no ? Nah, JvT had the excuse that pretty much no zerg was doing well vs terran, but JvP on the other hand... | ||
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On January 22 2014 21:38 Wintex wrote: Show nested quote + On January 22 2014 21:36 sAsImre wrote: On January 22 2014 21:35 AxionSteel wrote: On January 22 2014 21:33 sAsImre wrote: On January 22 2014 21:32 AxionSteel wrote: On January 22 2014 21:30 Fusilero wrote: On January 22 2014 21:29 Noonius wrote: pvp is so weird, 9 min in and both are still on 1 base with no intention of expanding and doing no damage to each other Welcome to PvP, where the builds are made up and the bases don't matter. Whose probe is it anyway On January 22 2014 21:30 Wombat_NI wrote: Zerg ZvP in latter day WoL was pretty horrific. Likely to have gone the same way if it had stayed with Swarmturtle being more figured out Daybreak + late WoL ZvP. Oh god Any map + late WoL ZvT. Oh god very late WoL ZvT post IT nerf was ok. I can't recall terran doing much better until HoTS... Even bomber was playing lategame at the end, you could take decent fights. Polt/Gumiho had some of the best TvZ games in late WoL Every Terran during the IPL5/LSC2 era that were competitive, had insane mechanics and used a specific unit or style to battle versus Zerg. Bomber used ravens, Polt had his 12 rine 3 tank production push or whatever... That was a funny period. the 15rines/2medivacs/2tanks push was bomber. Just hammer the Z face until you mine out :p | ||
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On January 22 2014 21:39 sAsImre wrote: Show nested quote + On January 22 2014 21:38 Wintex wrote: On January 22 2014 21:36 sAsImre wrote: On January 22 2014 21:35 AxionSteel wrote: On January 22 2014 21:33 sAsImre wrote: On January 22 2014 21:32 AxionSteel wrote: On January 22 2014 21:30 Fusilero wrote: On January 22 2014 21:29 Noonius wrote: pvp is so weird, 9 min in and both are still on 1 base with no intention of expanding and doing no damage to each other Welcome to PvP, where the builds are made up and the bases don't matter. Whose probe is it anyway On January 22 2014 21:30 Wombat_NI wrote: Zerg ZvP in latter day WoL was pretty horrific. Likely to have gone the same way if it had stayed with Swarmturtle being more figured out Daybreak + late WoL ZvP. Oh god Any map + late WoL ZvT. Oh god very late WoL ZvT post IT nerf was ok. I can't recall terran doing much better until HoTS... Even bomber was playing lategame at the end, you could take decent fights. Polt/Gumiho had some of the best TvZ games in late WoL Every Terran during the IPL5/LSC2 era that were competitive, had insane mechanics and used a specific unit or style to battle versus Zerg. Bomber used ravens, Polt had his 12 rine 3 tank production push or whatever... That was a funny period. the 15rines/2medivacs/2tanks push was bomber. Just hammer the Z face until you mine out :p Yeah, Polt used more tanks and less rines tho. | ||
imre
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On January 22 2014 21:40 Wintex wrote: Show nested quote + On January 22 2014 21:39 sAsImre wrote: On January 22 2014 21:38 Wintex wrote: On January 22 2014 21:36 sAsImre wrote: On January 22 2014 21:35 AxionSteel wrote: On January 22 2014 21:33 sAsImre wrote: On January 22 2014 21:32 AxionSteel wrote: On January 22 2014 21:30 Fusilero wrote: On January 22 2014 21:29 Noonius wrote: pvp is so weird, 9 min in and both are still on 1 base with no intention of expanding and doing no damage to each other Welcome to PvP, where the builds are made up and the bases don't matter. Whose probe is it anyway On January 22 2014 21:30 Wombat_NI wrote: Zerg ZvP in latter day WoL was pretty horrific. Likely to have gone the same way if it had stayed with Swarmturtle being more figured out Daybreak + late WoL ZvP. Oh god Any map + late WoL ZvT. Oh god very late WoL ZvT post IT nerf was ok. I can't recall terran doing much better until HoTS... Even bomber was playing lategame at the end, you could take decent fights. Polt/Gumiho had some of the best TvZ games in late WoL Every Terran during the IPL5/LSC2 era that were competitive, had insane mechanics and used a specific unit or style to battle versus Zerg. Bomber used ravens, Polt had his 12 rine 3 tank production push or whatever... That was a funny period. the 15rines/2medivacs/2tanks push was bomber. Just hammer the Z face until you mine out :p Yeah, Polt used more tanks and less rines tho. and took a 4th :p | ||
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On January 22 2014 21:36 sAsImre wrote: Show nested quote + On January 22 2014 21:35 AxionSteel wrote: On January 22 2014 21:33 sAsImre wrote: On January 22 2014 21:32 AxionSteel wrote: On January 22 2014 21:30 Fusilero wrote: On January 22 2014 21:29 Noonius wrote: pvp is so weird, 9 min in and both are still on 1 base with no intention of expanding and doing no damage to each other Welcome to PvP, where the builds are made up and the bases don't matter. Whose probe is it anyway On January 22 2014 21:30 Wombat_NI wrote: Zerg ZvP in latter day WoL was pretty horrific. Likely to have gone the same way if it had stayed with Swarmturtle being more figured out Daybreak + late WoL ZvP. Oh god Any map + late WoL ZvT. Oh god very late WoL ZvT post IT nerf was ok. I can't recall terran doing much better until HoTS... Even bomber was playing lategame at the end, you could take decent fights. Polt/Gumiho had some of the best TvZ games in late WoL I agree to disagree! cbf looking for stats, but I would be pretty sure it was zerg favoured! | ||
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On January 22 2014 21:41 AxionSteel wrote: Show nested quote + On January 22 2014 21:36 sAsImre wrote: On January 22 2014 21:35 AxionSteel wrote: On January 22 2014 21:33 sAsImre wrote: On January 22 2014 21:32 AxionSteel wrote: On January 22 2014 21:30 Fusilero wrote: On January 22 2014 21:29 Noonius wrote: pvp is so weird, 9 min in and both are still on 1 base with no intention of expanding and doing no damage to each other Welcome to PvP, where the builds are made up and the bases don't matter. Whose probe is it anyway On January 22 2014 21:30 Wombat_NI wrote: Zerg ZvP in latter day WoL was pretty horrific. Likely to have gone the same way if it had stayed with Swarmturtle being more figured out Daybreak + late WoL ZvP. Oh god Any map + late WoL ZvT. Oh god very late WoL ZvT post IT nerf was ok. I can't recall terran doing much better until HoTS... Even bomber was playing lategame at the end, you could take decent fights. Polt/Gumiho had some of the best TvZ games in late WoL I agree to disagree! cbf looking for stats, but I would be pretty sure it was zerg favoured! you're probably right but i think the worst part was before the IT/fungal nerf. | ||
Wintex
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On January 22 2014 21:40 sAsImre wrote: Show nested quote + On January 22 2014 21:40 Wintex wrote: On January 22 2014 21:39 sAsImre wrote: On January 22 2014 21:38 Wintex wrote: On January 22 2014 21:36 sAsImre wrote: On January 22 2014 21:35 AxionSteel wrote: On January 22 2014 21:33 sAsImre wrote: On January 22 2014 21:32 AxionSteel wrote: On January 22 2014 21:30 Fusilero wrote: On January 22 2014 21:29 Noonius wrote: pvp is so weird, 9 min in and both are still on 1 base with no intention of expanding and doing no damage to each other Welcome to PvP, where the builds are made up and the bases don't matter. Whose probe is it anyway On January 22 2014 21:30 Wombat_NI wrote: Zerg ZvP in latter day WoL was pretty horrific. Likely to have gone the same way if it had stayed with Swarmturtle being more figured out Daybreak + late WoL ZvP. Oh god Any map + late WoL ZvT. Oh god very late WoL ZvT post IT nerf was ok. I can't recall terran doing much better until HoTS... Even bomber was playing lategame at the end, you could take decent fights. Polt/Gumiho had some of the best TvZ games in late WoL Every Terran during the IPL5/LSC2 era that were competitive, had insane mechanics and used a specific unit or style to battle versus Zerg. Bomber used ravens, Polt had his 12 rine 3 tank production push or whatever... That was a funny period. the 15rines/2medivacs/2tanks push was bomber. Just hammer the Z face until you mine out :p Yeah, Polt used more tanks and less rines tho. and took a 4th :p Yeah haha. Bomber's death marches cut expansions to end the game. He has builds where he actually goes for expoes. Clear gameplans are great to have. I remember a game on Newkirk vs a protoss where he had a deathmarch on 3 base with the middle base. That shit was weird, but he almost broke the opponent. | ||
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