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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
Group A:   PartinG(Ecuador) Babysky   Sen  nicholashk LiveZerg Albion(Jordan) Zerth Group B:  Jim Dashiz Dayshi BRAT_OK desRow EnDerr BLord (Peru) (TBD, 2nd)Group C: Sora eNjiin MacSed Hendralisk (TBD, 1st) Cham (TBD)Group D: Soulkey(Jordan) Socke (Not Giacomo Thüs, the usual german Socke.)  HasuObs clannad BlinG (TBD) Capoch IanSource: http://www.wcg.com/6th/tournament/GF_Group Drawing_Result.pdf 
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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Rosettastoned
United States107 Posts
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JustPassingBy
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Nyarly
France1030 Posts
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On November 12 2013 01:32 Nyarly wrote: Finally a "world" championship. Sorry, but no world championship without Sweden and Ukraine. They are easily lacking 2 out of the top 5 countries in SC2. They are also lacking spain, ever heard of Lucifron and Vortix? :o | ||
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autechr3
United States58 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On November 12 2013 01:35 autechr3 wrote: BRAT_OK? Itsn't he retired? No, he still played for Empire a lot in the ATC recently. | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
The quality of WCG is unprecedentedly bad. | ||
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FatCat_13
Russian Federation117 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On November 12 2013 01:42 FatCat_13 wrote: How's that Soulkey coming from the 4th place? I don't recall Innovation (WCG Korea 3rd place) giving his slot to him... Innovation did it because DH:W on same weekend. So far looks like PartinG Sora Sora top 4. | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
I guess it will be in BO1 as usual ? | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44368 Posts
Oh well. Hopefully there will at least be some good games. No Combat-EX this time? XD | ||
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
On November 12 2013 01:33 justiceknight wrote: did Parting stop winning big events since he joined SKT? he doesnt look dominant after he joins kespa. He won Star Wars League one week ago. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44368 Posts
Cursed. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On November 12 2013 01:32 Rosettastoned wrote: Strange. Do Sweden or Netherlands even get to participate? Where is FINLAND? | ||
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
A zerg from China called clannad made it? :o Well, GL to him! Didn't Xenocider win WCG USA? Meaning, USA spots have been determined? | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On November 12 2013 01:51 lolfail9001 wrote: Innovation did it because DH:W on same weekend. So far looks like PartinG Sora Sora top 4. He'll prob be favoring gstl over dh | ||
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Oyman_tr
Turkey104 Posts
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On November 12 2013 03:16 slowbacontron wrote: Yeah, HONG KONG!! Go nicholashk!! :D A zerg from China called clannad made it? :o Well, GL to him! Didn't Xenocider win WCG USA? Meaning, USA spots have been determined? Yes, now, that you say it, I seem to remember that as well. However, the link does´nt announce them yet. | ||
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Prog455
Denmark970 Posts
On November 12 2013 01:32 Nyarly wrote: Finally a "world" championship. Yea - i heard Jordan and Costa Rica is THE place to be if you want to become a progamer. Nevermind Sweden and Germany. | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On November 12 2013 02:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: These groups are always so weird and ambiguous to me (after obviously the Koreans win and then the known progamers follow behind). Oh well. Hopefully there will at least be some good games.No Combat-EX this time? XD That's it, I'm emailing the fucking sponsors. Enough is enough. | ||
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ivancype
Brazil485 Posts
BTW, Dashiz is a terran player, (source http://copaamerica.starcraft2.com/pt/fixture-grande-final-61) | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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argonautdice
Canada2719 Posts
On November 12 2013 04:08 Xoronius wrote: Yes, now, that you say it, I seem to remember that as well. However, the link does´nt announce them yet. Yeah, Xenocider is 1st USA, followed by pucK 2nd, but I think they only give a paid trip to 1st place, so I'm not sure pucK will go. | ||
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argonautdice
Canada2719 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
They are on different week-ends. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On November 12 2013 01:32 Nyarly wrote: Finally a "world" championship. WCS was a world championship. Far more so than this because no one was hindered by finances/shit organisation from playing WCS. They were hindered only by skill. | ||
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Jeger1
Norway1 Post
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Slakkoo
Sweden1119 Posts
On November 12 2013 05:38 Jeger1 wrote: What happend to scandinavia? TargA Snute Naniwa etc.? DH:W I believe? Also, the separate countries need to host qualifers and etc. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
1 Xiang Huang TH000 China (1st) 2 Hyo-Seop Eom FoCuS Korea (1st) 3 JingYang Ren EleGaNt China (2nd) 4 Jae-Wook Roh Lucifer Korea (2nd) 5 Xixi Zhou xixi China (3rd) 6 Jae-Ho Jang Moon Korea (3rd) Warcraft 3 is basically China vs Korea lol | ||
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Maegi
Finland174 Posts
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EnderSword
Canada669 Posts
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On November 12 2013 04:10 Prog455 wrote: Yea - i heard Jordan and Costa Rica is THE place to be if you want to become a progamer. Nevermind Sweden and Germany. lol. Not like a Korean isn't going to win it anyway. :V | ||
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nZ.INFESTED
Costa Rica57 Posts
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PeterDLai
United States924 Posts
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On November 12 2013 04:15 Darkhoarse wrote: This is the first of many tournaments Sora is going to win, nerds. What if PartinG or Sou-a-la-key stop him? o-O  On November 12 2013 08:29 NB wrote: looks like a disaster to me... rumor said its on the same date with DH. Just look at how many people actually tune in to the qualifiers and last finals lol. The exposure is meh and they haven't really tried to get anyone on board. | ||
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Lumi
United States1612 Posts
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On November 12 2013 08:29 NB wrote: looks like a disaster to me... rumor said its on the same date with DH. And IEM Singapore, which is way worse because the times are the same. | ||
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Grampz
United States2147 Posts
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
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arctics86
Germany797 Posts
Curious who the casters will be | ||
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ke_ivan
Singapore374 Posts
On November 12 2013 02:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: These groups are always so weird and ambiguous to me (after obviously the Koreans win and then the known progamers follow behind). Oh well. Hopefully there will at least be some good games. No Combat-EX this time? XD COMBAT EX! My favourite cannon rush hero! | ||
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kawoq
Guatemala357 Posts
EDIT: On November 12 2013 06:57 nZ.INFESTED wrote: Dashiz is not going to attempt WCG, the organization in Costa Rica is not paying for his trip. Instead they pay for the FIFA 2014 player :S. Sad thing =(.... didn't knew FIFA was bigger than SC2 in Costa Rica... | ||
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On November 12 2013 10:08 arctics86 wrote: There is not one player from Spain, Poland, Ukraine, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Netherlands or Belgium, but 6 players who don't even have a Liquipedia entry Curious who the casters will be Have you asked those countries if they wanted to participate? It's their responsibility to send forth competitors. It's not like WCG invites them, the countries are supposed to host qualifiers and send them. Why are people asking "why is my country not participating"? It's because your country decided not to participate.... | ||
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LockeTazeline
2390 Posts
On November 12 2013 01:33 justiceknight wrote: did Parting stop winning big events since he joined SKT? he doesnt look dominant after he joins kespa. Yeah, but I'd say he's playing better now than when he soul trained BWC to victory. He probably needs Sora to knock out Soulkey again to win though. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25448 Posts
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Gromrojas
Costa Rica30 Posts
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LockeTazeline
2390 Posts
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iMrising
United States1099 Posts
On November 12 2013 05:50 Maegi wrote: For some reason I have a really strong feeling that Parting, Sora, Soulkey and Jim are gonna make it through their groups what a surprise edit: i sure hope that was sarcasm help | ||
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thezanursic
5484 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On November 12 2013 13:57 LockeTazeline wrote: WCG isn't exactly the most amazing tourny ever, but I don't understand why people are upset it exists? Because it used to mean a lot more, and now is just a shadow of its former self. It's like if the GSL were to continue 10 years from now, but in a very very shitty state. | ||
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BEARDiaguz
Australia2362 Posts
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4010 Posts
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GhoSt[shield]
Canada2131 Posts
On November 12 2013 03:16 slowbacontron wrote: Yeah, HONG KONG!! Go nicholashk!! :D A zerg from China called clannad made it? :o Well, GL to him! Didn't Xenocider win WCG USA? Meaning, USA spots have been determined? Xenocider is probably in group B or C as the TBD American player. He won WCG USA, so probably Group C | ||
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argonautdice
Canada2719 Posts
On November 12 2013 15:28 iaguz wrote: Where mah aussies at? IEM Singapore? | ||
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ke_ivan
Singapore374 Posts
On November 12 2013 15:28 iaguz wrote: Where mah aussies at? Mate, where are u? I'm sure Nirvana or one of us cld put u up... if actually came down! Stop being lazy and qualify goddammit! | ||
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Cinim
Denmark866 Posts
Just look at how many countries are boycotting this, which are usually in every single WCG. Finland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Ukraine, Netherlands and I could keep on going. Guys, just face it, WCG is dead.... | ||
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Raigeki
Hong Kong207 Posts
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simmeh
Canada2511 Posts
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Deleted User 137586
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v0rtex
123 Posts
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tl2212
Belize731 Posts
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nZ.INFESTED
Costa Rica57 Posts
On November 12 2013 10:25 kawoq wrote: Dashiz is a terran player =) EDIT: Sad thing =(.... didn't knew FIFA was bigger than SC2 in Costa Rica... Is not, but the GAME ON (TicoGamers) organization which have the WCG rights doesnt have a clear vision of what SC2 is worldwide, and they focus market is consoles not PC even so SC2 community had been the biggest in Costa Rica for so many years. This year they promised a ticket for the winners on Street Figther, SC2, FIFA14 and even the LOL Team they charge a fee of inscription in all of this tourneys but the winners dont receive a single thing at the end ;(. Here in Costa Rica WCG is one of the few big tourneys (this year COPA AMERICA appears) a player could have the opportunity to compete, and this organization is killing the E-Sports scene here with their falses promises, sadly  . | ||
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
I was the judge and organizer for sc2 in our local wcg tournament.......hmmm....come to think of it at least SK will have an easier group now @OP : He plays protoss if you want to update , and this is our flag ffs  Zerth ???? WHO THE FUCK IS THAT ? I didnt have a single player with that name , and the guy who came in 2nd was a protoss named Kenshin......who the fuck is that guy ? OMG ! I just read the pdf.......now I remember him XD | ||
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quannguyen
Vietnam1390 Posts
Well at least I know who to root for. Clannad FTW (best anime ever ) | ||
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Dalnore
Russian Federation66 Posts
On November 12 2013 16:55 Raigeki wrote: whats the prizepool for this years wcg 1st $30,000 2nd $15,000 3rd $7,500 Source: http://www.wcg.com/renew/fun/news/news_view.asp?keyno=C13111110000 | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3380 Posts
As for this year, the SC2 tournament is SUPPOSED to be BO3 in the round robin (I added supposed). Will try to confirm it ASAP. It s nice that players from smaller (esport wise) countries get to participate. It highlights that particular scene and perhaps will help it grow. It s sad that other countries choose to boycott it. WCG is and always has been criticized for his format (OMG only 3 Koreans? was a common critic in 2004!, so stop pretending like it s changed! It s just that there wasn't many big worldwide tournaments back then). Now I agree the coverage is pretty bad (euphemism) and has to be improved, but honestly I really hope it does, because it s a nice tournament! On a side note: Go Sora!! do it for CJ! EDIT: it wasn't clear in my post: I dont think WCG is THE big tournament of the year, but it still nice that it exists | ||
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
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Dalnore
Russian Federation66 Posts
On November 13 2013 01:10 WGT-Baal wrote: As for this year, the SC2 tournament is SUPPOSED to be BO3 in the round robin (I added supposed). Will try to confirm it ASAP. From SC2 Tournament Rules: Group stage: a round-robin consisting of one match against each group opponent; (Best 2 out of 3 games) Source: http://www.wcg.com/renew/wcg2013/files/WCG_2013_GF_SC2_Rules_ver_1.1.pdf | ||
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jackslater
Russian Federation604 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9021 Posts
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umade
Sweden172 Posts
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Juicy Orange
Canada133 Posts
I can't believe he made it! | ||
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ThePlagueJG
Sweden1010 Posts
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Nomzter
Sweden2802 Posts
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
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10bulgares
352 Posts
On November 13 2013 01:10 WGT-Baal wrote: The WCG are organized locally, if a country does not send players, WCG can't do anything about it, blame your own country! Yeah but who decides to give two slots to Jordan? Maybe it was two slots for the whole middle east or something like this. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On November 13 2013 02:03 10bulgares wrote: Yeah but who decides to give two slots to Jordan? Maybe it was two slots for the whole middle east or something like this. Doesn't matter. I thought more people would be appraising the country's move to not participate in such events anymore until the WCG is brought up to speed. | ||
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VArsovskiSC
Macedonia563 Posts
Surprised d.Killer didn't make it in his region (SA), and EU - it's represented by Daishy, Hasu, LiveZerg and Brat_OK ?? And how the hell did Bling make it anyway :o, was UK a separate region or sth (the guy's even not in Premier, or at least I don't think he'll hold onto) ?? Also - where's Australia (or at least NZ) ?? The qualifiers must've been lacking a lot of good players.. rofl.. , though --> wish them some good luck =============================================== Think PartinG's got this though.. (I think..) | ||
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Nuclease
United States1049 Posts
That's a good question, where IS Finland? Never heard of it, sounds quaint, though. I have to say, WCG is always quite underwhelming in my opinion. | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
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nZ.INFESTED
Costa Rica57 Posts
On November 13 2013 02:03 10bulgares wrote: Yeah but who decides to give two slots to Jordan? Maybe it was two slots for the whole middle east or something like this. For what I know each local organization pays for the slots they want with a maximum of 3. | ||
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orvinreyes
577 Posts
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On November 13 2013 01:02 Tchado wrote: @OP : He plays protoss if you want to update , and this is our flag ffs I did´nt post flags in the first place, I just TLPD´ed the whole post and have no idea, how to post flags/races. Everything wrong regarding flags got filled in by the TL mods, when they put this into news, so I take no responsibility for that. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
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Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
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Serinox
Germany5224 Posts
On November 13 2013 02:37 VArsovskiSC wrote: Surprised how some veeeeery good players didn't make it: Surprised d.Killer didn't make it in his region (SA), and EU - it's represented by Daishy, Hasu, LiveZerg and Brat_OK ?? And how the hell did Bling make it anyway :o, was UK a separate region or sth (the guy's even not in Premier, or at least I don't think he'll hold onto) ?? Also - where's Australia (or at least NZ) ?? The qualifiers must've been lacking a lot of good players.. rofl.. , though --> wish them some good luck =============================================== Think PartinG's got this though.. (I think..) BlinG actually won his Challenger Group, so if the system would remain unchanged, he would be in Premier League. | ||
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On November 12 2013 15:20 Bagration wrote: Because it used to mean a lot more, and now is just a shadow of its former self. It's like if the GSL were to continue 10 years from now, but in a very very shitty state. That's only true because people stopped supporting it. If everyone were to stop supporting GSL but they still hosted tournaments because they love eSports, then it would be the same as WCG. | ||
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zimms
Austria561 Posts
They had huge potential but simply blew it. Maybe some of us will shed a single tear when it finally dies, but overall most of us agree that it has to die eventually. tldr: WCG = Anakin Skywalker | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On November 13 2013 03:27 Shinta) wrote: That's only true because people stopped supporting it. If everyone were to stop supporting GSL but they still hosted tournaments because they love eSports, then it would be the same as WCG. There are many reasons as to why people stopped supporting it. The only reason it meant something to some people is because it was the only place players from outside of Korea could really convene for PC games, but because of poor administration, game selection, and slow progress (it's like being stuck in 2006-08). It's always lackluster. Reason it got hyped? Because it's one of the oldest tournaments, but the industry has moved far above it. On November 13 2013 03:37 zimms wrote: No, WCG screwed up themselves. That's why people stopped supporting them. They had huge potential but simply blew it. Maybe some of us will shed a single tear when it finally dies, but overall most of us agree that it has to die eventually. tldr: WCG = Anakin Skywalker Exactly. They have only themselves to blame when it comes to lack of progress and at the end of the day they're the decision makers. | ||
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
Edit : He'll be there for Samsung, the main sponsor. | ||
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never_Nal
Costa Rica676 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On November 13 2013 01:56 Nomzter wrote: I hope Soulkey crushes this So do i. Only real problem for him is Sora. | ||
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TaishiCi
Korea (South)211 Posts
It is going to be the 3 Koreans trying to get top place. | ||
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havok55
United States276 Posts
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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LockeTazeline
2390 Posts
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argonautdice
Canada2719 Posts
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
On November 13 2013 02:03 10bulgares wrote: Yeah but who decides to give two slots to Jordan? Maybe it was two slots for the whole middle east or something like this. I know why we have 2 slots.....and it aint a good reason aside from what I have in my mind , each country can send up to 3 | ||
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goody153
44132 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On November 13 2013 01:09 Dalnore wrote: 1st $30,000 2nd $15,000 3rd $7,500 Source: http://www.wcg.com/renew/fun/news/news_view.asp?keyno=C13111110000 I can't believe this is actually going up each year. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On November 13 2013 05:50 lolfail9001 wrote: So do i. Only real problem for him is Sora. PartinG has beat him several times too. | ||
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On November 13 2013 07:44 havok55 wrote: See guys this is what WCS could have been with region lock! Every bracket: 1 Korean vs 1 decent player vs some mid-tier randoms vs players that arent even on liquidpedia >_> Yeah right, because that is exactly how WCS EU looks like: Infested by players without liquipedia entries just behind the handful of invading Koreans. | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On November 13 2013 12:59 goody153 wrote: its odd to see a tournament player list that is not infested with only koreans .. not that i hate them .. its just odd ..fresh for a new perspective I agree! It's going to be nice to get to know a bunch of new players from all over the world. | ||
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Seph02
Netherlands221 Posts
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herMan
Japan2053 Posts
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jarod
Romania766 Posts
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alexanderzero
United States659 Posts
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
On November 13 2013 17:31 alexanderzero wrote: How did they choose which players are representing Korea? It seems like a really random selection... http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2013/Qualifiers/Korea | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On November 13 2013 16:57 herMan wrote: Why are there three south koreans participating? It would be tough for anybody else to win even if there was just one. They need 3, to make sure, to win this thing. 2011 Titan knocked out Supernova early and MKP fell to Kas in the quarterfinals, 2012 Lowely knocked out Yonghwa and MKP. Same thing in ESWC and Iesf, where there were foreign world champions in both years. 3 Koreans seems to be the magic number, to make sure, the tournament gets won. | ||
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dampv
Sweden83 Posts
First of all, WCG obviously tries to be "the olympics of esports", this means that the only paid finishes are the top 3 in each tournament and that there is a cap on how many players every country can send in each game. For single player games this has almost always been capped at three players per country. In 2002 boxer was qualified automatically as the reigning champion which meant South Korea had 4 representatives in brood war, boxer went on to defend his title. Second, the WCG do NOT organize their own qualifiers and do NOT pay for travel or accomodation for the players, this means that if there is a lack of local/national sponsors, there will not be a qualifier. Almost all qualifiers have been always been national, with participation limited to citizens of the country hosting the qualifier, there have been a few instances of regional qualifiers iirc, for instance the nordic region had a single qualifier where all five countries competed for a single spot in the Counter-Strike tournament a few years back. So, the reason that some really obscure countries are represented in SC2 and brood war is that there is at least one person with more money than sense who is ready to fork out a few grand for the plane ticket and hotel room. Historically, this has always been the case in brood war and SC2, for instance in 2006 the following countries sent players in brood war: Colombia, Uzbekistan (he made it out of the group), Vietnam, Philipines, Kazakhstan, Mexico, Slovakia, Moldova, Ireland, Serbia, Hungary and Croatia. How many decent SC2 players from these countries can you name ? No players from the nordic region or benelux was there to compete. Organizing the qualifiers in this fashion may have made some sense +10 years ago when there where very few players with sponsors willing to send them halfway around the world, today it makes very little sense. A way to solve this would be to have a qualifier without paid accomodation, so that players with sponsors or who are willing to pay for their own tickets still can participate if there is a lack of local sponsors. WCG also needs to get with the times and have smaller groups with BO3 instead of BO1 and change to a flatter payout structure, if there is a $50k prize pool there really is no reason to only have three paid places. | ||
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xtruder
Afghanistan135 Posts
Skillwise, it's not WCS. But the importance of having this worldwide esports cultural event is undeniable. tl;dr: it's not about taking a list of the best players in the world and having them compete, it's about a cultural exchange of the best players from as many countries as possible. | ||
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craz3d
Bulgaria856 Posts
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never_Nal
Costa Rica676 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On November 15 2013 01:35 craz3d wrote: The WCG has gone downhill over the years, judging by the game selection and the number of countries represented. It's a damn shame, really. this. will be easy for soulkey, parting, sora and jim to reach top4 unless they run into each other early on. and even then i'd expect the top3 to be out of those 4 .... | ||
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publicenemies
458 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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PandaTank
South Africa255 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On November 19 2013 21:17 PandaTank wrote: Sad South Africa never got to participate What is the scariest? A CobraTank or a PandaTank? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25448 Posts
A hyped WCG tournament, without overlap to other tournaments would be fantastic if it was done well. | ||
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HsDLTitich
Italy830 Posts
On November 12 2013 11:55 Shinta) wrote: Have you asked those countries if they wanted to participate? It's their responsibility to send forth competitors. It's not like WCG invites them, the countries are supposed to host qualifiers and send them. Why are people asking "why is my country not participating"? It's because your country decided not to participate.... Do you know how much it costs to buy a WCG license to host a qualifier? Without WCG direct support (aka: Samsung willing to sponsor a certain national qualifier) it's pretty impossible to run a qualifier, unless you're full of money ofc | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25448 Posts
Me and some of the boys wanted to try to host a WCG Ireland comp. The idea was to have an all-Ireland contest, and even of we had no chance in hell of sending people over to the finals, we'd at least have settled the best Irish player. No however, you can't even do that with an army of people working on it for free (as we would have) because the license is pricey. Can't hope to recoup that for a tournament featuring only Irish players | ||
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dampv
Sweden83 Posts
On November 20 2013 04:14 Wombat_NI wrote: Yeah, it's a bit of a pain. Me and some of the boys wanted to try to host a WCG Ireland comp. The idea was to have an all-Ireland contest, and even of we had no chance in hell of sending people over to the finals, we'd at least have settled the best Irish player. No however, you can't even do that with an army of people working on it for free (as we would have) because the license is pricey. Can't hope to recoup that for a tournament featuring only Irish players Wow, WCG are even dumber than I thought, they spend all this money to host a big event and then they not only pay don't for qualifiers but actually demand the organizers of said qualifiers to pay for the privilege of hosting them? Mental. | ||
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