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trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
November 10 2013 03:59 GMT
#11201
dang I really wanted JD to break his curse, but at least sos got redemption from his 0:4 loss in the season 1 finals
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
November 10 2013 04:03 GMT
#11202
On November 10 2013 12:56 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 12:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:47 Shellshock wrote:
since they both lost in the semis, what do people think?
Poll: Who is the best Terran?

Maru (32)
 
57%

Other (explain) (16)
 
29%

Bomber (8)
 
14%

56 total votes

Your vote: Who is the best Terran?

(Vote): Maru
(Vote): Bomber
(Vote): Other (explain)



Recent months: Maru

Overall this year: Bogus


So very curious how his TvT is.


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" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
November 10 2013 04:04 GMT
#11203
I wonder if Jaedong is trying hard to not win, maybe he is actually really going for only 2nd places.
The true Kong!
The curse is real
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12680 Posts
November 10 2013 04:07 GMT
#11204
On November 10 2013 12:38 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 12:33 stuchiu wrote:
Protoss Pantheon:

Zealot is Reach.
DT is Inca
Stalker is Hongun
Void Ray is Genius
Warp Prism is Hero
HT is Rain
Immortal is Parting.
Sentry is MC
Forge is Creator
Cannon is sOs
Carrier is Stork.
Mothership is Kiwikaki
Probe is Naniwa
Warpgate is Huk

Zerg Pantheon:

Spawning Pool: ActionJesuz
Zergling: Life
Drone: Ret
Overlord: Vortix
Roach: Stephano
Hydra: Idra
Mutalisk: Jaedong
Baneling: Nestea
Infestor: Freaky
Corruptor: ????????
SH: Firecake
Ultralisk: Suppy
Brood Lord: Slivko
Viper: Hyun
Nydus: Symbol
Queen: Losira
Creep Tumor: Scarlett

Terran Pantheon:

SCV: BitByBit
Mule: Bomber
Marine: MKP
Marauder: Polt
Ghost: Taeja
Hellbat: Innovation
Hellion: Slayers
Widow Mine: Fantasy
Siege Tank: Goody
Thor: Thorzain
Medivac: MMA
Banshee: TheBest
Viking: Gumiho
Battlecruiser: Mvp
Raven: Rain


Pylon is Artosis ^_^

I think we should add Nuke for Jinro
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 10 2013 04:07 GMT
#11205
On November 10 2013 13:03 Steins;Gate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 12:56 stuchiu wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:47 Shellshock wrote:
since they both lost in the semis, what do people think?
Poll: Who is the best Terran?

Maru (32)
 
57%

Other (explain) (16)
 
29%

Bomber (8)
 
14%

56 total votes

Your vote: Who is the best Terran?

(Vote): Maru
(Vote): Bomber
(Vote): Other (explain)



Recent months: Maru

Overall this year: Bogus


So very curious how his TvT is.


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Uncontrollable tears at losing. Poor Inno.
Moderator
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
November 10 2013 04:10 GMT
#11206
On November 10 2013 13:07 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 12:38 liberate71 wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:33 stuchiu wrote:
Protoss Pantheon:

Zealot is Reach.
DT is Inca
Stalker is Hongun
Void Ray is Genius
Warp Prism is Hero
HT is Rain
Immortal is Parting.
Sentry is MC
Forge is Creator
Cannon is sOs
Carrier is Stork.
Mothership is Kiwikaki
Probe is Naniwa
Warpgate is Huk

Zerg Pantheon:

Spawning Pool: ActionJesuz
Zergling: Life
Drone: Ret
Overlord: Vortix
Roach: Stephano
Hydra: Idra
Mutalisk: Jaedong
Baneling: Nestea
Infestor: Freaky
Corruptor: ????????
SH: Firecake
Ultralisk: Suppy
Brood Lord: Slivko
Viper: Hyun
Nydus: Symbol
Queen: Losira
Creep Tumor: Scarlett

Terran Pantheon:

SCV: BitByBit
Mule: Bomber
Marine: MKP
Marauder: Polt
Ghost: Taeja
Hellbat: Innovation
Hellion: Slayers
Widow Mine: Fantasy
Siege Tank: Goody
Thor: Thorzain
Medivac: MMA
Banshee: TheBest
Viking: Gumiho
Battlecruiser: Mvp
Raven: Rain


Pylon is Artosis ^_^

I think we should add Nuke for Jinro

Why not Bomber?
I reckon we can find a more severe manner-MULEr.
kiss kiss fall in love
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
November 10 2013 04:10 GMT
#11207
Sos y u ruin epic storyline?!?!?!?!
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 10 2013 04:13 GMT
#11208
On November 10 2013 13:10 mikedebo wrote:
Sos y u ruin epic storyline?!?!?!?!


Think of it as redemption for when he lost to his teammate. sHy was just as due.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
November 10 2013 04:14 GMT
#11209
On November 10 2013 12:47 Shellshock wrote:
since they both lost in the semis, what do people think?
Poll: Who is the best Terran?

Maru (32)
 
57%

Other (explain) (16)
 
29%

Bomber (8)
 
14%

56 total votes

Your vote: Who is the best Terran?

(Vote): Maru
(Vote): Bomber
(Vote): Other (explain)



Polt. Has some of the best TvT currently out there, and is more consistent than the other two in the other matchups.
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 04:15:33
November 10 2013 04:15 GMT
#11210
On November 10 2013 13:10 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 13:07 ETisME wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:38 liberate71 wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:33 stuchiu wrote:
Protoss Pantheon:

Zealot is Reach.
DT is Inca
Stalker is Hongun
Void Ray is Genius
Warp Prism is Hero
HT is Rain
Immortal is Parting.
Sentry is MC
Forge is Creator
Cannon is sOs
Carrier is Stork.
Mothership is Kiwikaki
Probe is Naniwa
Warpgate is Huk

Zerg Pantheon:

Spawning Pool: ActionJesuz
Zergling: Life
Drone: Ret
Overlord: Vortix
Roach: Stephano
Hydra: Idra
Mutalisk: Jaedong
Baneling: Nestea
Infestor: Freaky
Corruptor: ????????
SH: Firecake
Ultralisk: Suppy
Brood Lord: Slivko
Viper: Hyun
Nydus: Symbol
Queen: Losira
Creep Tumor: Scarlett

Terran Pantheon:

SCV: BitByBit
Mule: Bomber
Marine: MKP
Marauder: Polt
Ghost: Taeja
Hellbat: Innovation
Hellion: Slayers
Widow Mine: Fantasy
Siege Tank: Goody
Thor: Thorzain
Medivac: MMA
Banshee: TheBest
Viking: Gumiho
Battlecruiser: Mvp
Raven: Rain


Pylon is Artosis ^_^

I think we should add Nuke for Jinro

Why not Bomber?
I reckon we can find a more severe manner-MULEr.

Shellshock for manner mules
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

he wouldnt leave
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
November 10 2013 04:18 GMT
#11211
On November 10 2013 13:15 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 13:10 IntoTheheart wrote:
On November 10 2013 13:07 ETisME wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:38 liberate71 wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:33 stuchiu wrote:
Protoss Pantheon:

Zealot is Reach.
DT is Inca
Stalker is Hongun
Void Ray is Genius
Warp Prism is Hero
HT is Rain
Immortal is Parting.
Sentry is MC
Forge is Creator
Cannon is sOs
Carrier is Stork.
Mothership is Kiwikaki
Probe is Naniwa
Warpgate is Huk

Zerg Pantheon:

Spawning Pool: ActionJesuz
Zergling: Life
Drone: Ret
Overlord: Vortix
Roach: Stephano
Hydra: Idra
Mutalisk: Jaedong
Baneling: Nestea
Infestor: Freaky
Corruptor: ????????
SH: Firecake
Ultralisk: Suppy
Brood Lord: Slivko
Viper: Hyun
Nydus: Symbol
Queen: Losira
Creep Tumor: Scarlett

Terran Pantheon:

SCV: BitByBit
Mule: Bomber
Marine: MKP
Marauder: Polt
Ghost: Taeja
Hellbat: Innovation
Hellion: Slayers
Widow Mine: Fantasy
Siege Tank: Goody
Thor: Thorzain
Medivac: MMA
Banshee: TheBest
Viking: Gumiho
Battlecruiser: Mvp
Raven: Rain


Pylon is Artosis ^_^

I think we should add Nuke for Jinro

Why not Bomber?
I reckon we can find a more severe manner-MULEr.

Shellshock for manner mules
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

he wouldnt leave

You don't have your army on a hotkey? 0o
The curse is real
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 10 2013 04:18 GMT
#11212
On November 10 2013 13:18 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 13:15 Shellshock wrote:
On November 10 2013 13:10 IntoTheheart wrote:
On November 10 2013 13:07 ETisME wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:38 liberate71 wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:33 stuchiu wrote:
Protoss Pantheon:

Zealot is Reach.
DT is Inca
Stalker is Hongun
Void Ray is Genius
Warp Prism is Hero
HT is Rain
Immortal is Parting.
Sentry is MC
Forge is Creator
Cannon is sOs
Carrier is Stork.
Mothership is Kiwikaki
Probe is Naniwa
Warpgate is Huk

Zerg Pantheon:

Spawning Pool: ActionJesuz
Zergling: Life
Drone: Ret
Overlord: Vortix
Roach: Stephano
Hydra: Idra
Mutalisk: Jaedong
Baneling: Nestea
Infestor: Freaky
Corruptor: ????????
SH: Firecake
Ultralisk: Suppy
Brood Lord: Slivko
Viper: Hyun
Nydus: Symbol
Queen: Losira
Creep Tumor: Scarlett

Terran Pantheon:

SCV: BitByBit
Mule: Bomber
Marine: MKP
Marauder: Polt
Ghost: Taeja
Hellbat: Innovation
Hellion: Slayers
Widow Mine: Fantasy
Siege Tank: Goody
Thor: Thorzain
Medivac: MMA
Banshee: TheBest
Viking: Gumiho
Battlecruiser: Mvp
Raven: Rain


Pylon is Artosis ^_^

I think we should add Nuke for Jinro

Why not Bomber?
I reckon we can find a more severe manner-MULEr.

Shellshock for manner mules
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

he wouldnt leave

You don't have your army on a hotkey? 0o

I don't like to hotkey army besides spell casters usually. bad habit
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
November 10 2013 04:26 GMT
#11213
On November 10 2013 13:18 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 13:18 Tobblish wrote:
On November 10 2013 13:15 Shellshock wrote:
On November 10 2013 13:10 IntoTheheart wrote:
On November 10 2013 13:07 ETisME wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:38 liberate71 wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:33 stuchiu wrote:
Protoss Pantheon:

Zealot is Reach.
DT is Inca
Stalker is Hongun
Void Ray is Genius
Warp Prism is Hero
HT is Rain
Immortal is Parting.
Sentry is MC
Forge is Creator
Cannon is sOs
Carrier is Stork.
Mothership is Kiwikaki
Probe is Naniwa
Warpgate is Huk

Zerg Pantheon:

Spawning Pool: ActionJesuz
Zergling: Life
Drone: Ret
Overlord: Vortix
Roach: Stephano
Hydra: Idra
Mutalisk: Jaedong
Baneling: Nestea
Infestor: Freaky
Corruptor: ????????
SH: Firecake
Ultralisk: Suppy
Brood Lord: Slivko
Viper: Hyun
Nydus: Symbol
Queen: Losira
Creep Tumor: Scarlett

Terran Pantheon:

SCV: BitByBit
Mule: Bomber
Marine: MKP
Marauder: Polt
Ghost: Taeja
Hellbat: Innovation
Hellion: Slayers
Widow Mine: Fantasy
Siege Tank: Goody
Thor: Thorzain
Medivac: MMA
Banshee: TheBest
Viking: Gumiho
Battlecruiser: Mvp
Raven: Rain


Pylon is Artosis ^_^

I think we should add Nuke for Jinro

Why not Bomber?
I reckon we can find a more severe manner-MULEr.

Shellshock for manner mules
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

he wouldnt leave

You don't have your army on a hotkey? 0o

I don't like to hotkey army besides spell casters usually. bad habit


Insufficient manner CCs.
kiss kiss fall in love
sur_reaL
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada278 Posts
November 10 2013 04:28 GMT
#11214
If only JD won that first game....

CONGRATS SOS!!!!! DAMN how he prepared for vZ, soooo well deserved!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH3hrtp1T84
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
November 10 2013 04:31 GMT
#11215
On November 10 2013 13:28 sur_reaL wrote:
If only JD won that first game....

CONGRATS SOS!!!!! DAMN how he prepared for vZ, soooo well deserved!!!!



If only sOs 8 gated in that third game...



MC for president
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
November 10 2013 04:34 GMT
#11216
On November 10 2013 13:14 TheFish7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 12:47 Shellshock wrote:
since they both lost in the semis, what do people think?
Poll: Who is the best Terran?

Maru (32)
 
57%

Other (explain) (16)
 
29%

Bomber (8)
 
14%

56 total votes

Your vote: Who is the best Terran?

(Vote): Maru
(Vote): Bomber
(Vote): Other (explain)



Polt. Has some of the best TvT currently out there, and is more consistent than the other two in the other matchups.

But he has shown nothing against non WCS america competition.
QO Feasting
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
November 10 2013 04:34 GMT
#11217
On November 10 2013 12:38 bourne117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 12:32 vthree wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:22 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 12:10 bourne117 wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:59 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:52 gobbledydook wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:50 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:47 bourne117 wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:44 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:40 bourne117 wrote:
[quote]
What the fuck is your problem dude. He just won 100k dollars and the biggest tournament of the year. It wasn't like cheering for someone being injured at all. It was like cheering for winning the superbowl. It doesn't matter how you did it. You won and deserve to celebrate.

if you win after scoring on a hail mary, you are going to react differently after winning 70-0. It a compeltely different feeling and emotional reaction. That is the point i am making. this series was one-sided and very disappointing from game one. it was like a football game like 50-7 or something like that. I would not cheer crazily after winning that easily.

It is very different in SC2 though. A football game is a singular game that can be obviously over for a long time. SC2 is a box format and each game is always close because the player ends it as soon as it is over. The game never turns into a 70-0 mess (unless its like fantasy gg timings). A better comparison would be winning the NBA title 4-1 after 4 really close games. And you better believe those players are celebrating. (And they would be celebrating the 70-0 if it meant winning the title like this game meant for sOs.

well said. It's how you celebrate which is what we're discussing. jumping up and down like a little child is not approved, but it is a free world i guess. If sOs won in a game 7 or game 6 in intense matches, i would be very happy for him and expect him to go nuts. but you make good points.

what do you mean jumping up and down is not approved. This man just won the most important tournament of his life.
you're just sore that JD lost and everyone has to sulk like you.

go to my previous posts. winning ugly or hard fought yields different emotions than winning easily and completely demoralizing the opponent. Soccer teams beating clubs 5-0 4-1 will yield different celebrations than winning a close won. that is the point. And yes i am upset JD lost, but that is the game, someone must win someone must lose. I am not sore that sOs won. I just heard he was jumping up and down a bit crazily, i was a bit disappointed in the reaction. that's all.

Using a score is a bad way to compare it to SC though. Each game is close until the end because unlike a sports game with a timer on it the game ends as soon as you get that decisive lead. Which means that when he wins its more like winning 5-4 than 5-0.

this is a good discussion to view SC2 in what manner or fashion series should be judge i guess. If you kill an opponent 4-0 or are up 3-0, is it the same feeling as to being up 3-0 in soccer or 21-0 in football, or 3-0 in hockey. How I feel, being up 3-0 or 3-1 and beating an opponent 4-1, i would feel different than being in a 6 or seven game tough series.

perhaps the comparisons aren't apple to apples as you guys say. don't know, i am not a pro SC2 player, so it would be hard i guess to determine the leverage or dominance you have reached over your opponent after being up 3-1 and killin gyour opponent 4-1. It seems like 4-1 is a one sided victory. But I don't know the competive psychology of being in an intense 7 game series in a final. So you guys are probably right overall. I should not get too upset about sOs celebrating heartily after winning 4-1. I will observe future reactions of players that dominate their opponent from now on. I really never noticed behavior like this until sOs won. So perhaps, i am just a JD fanboy that got upset. I see things a little bit more clearly now.


It isn't that hard to imagine the difference. Using your own reactions as an example. When did you get 'upset' that JD lost, was it when he was down 3-1 and you already 'accepted' that he lost. Or was it when he lost/was clearly losing the fifth game?

If you felt JD hadn't 'lost' at 3-1, you sure as hell can be sure the sOs didn't think he had the series already wrapped up. If your soccer team was up 3-0 in a game, you would already be celebrating before the final whistle. That is the difference.

Thank you for explaining that better than I was able to. This is exactly what I met but you worded it much better.


These responses really fuck with my mind. Like if someone wins the Super Bowl 28-7 pretty straightforwardly the winning team is still going to go apeshit. Like why would you make all those sports analogies and omit the part where this is closer to the Super Bowl/World Cup/etc.?
sur_reaL
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada278 Posts
November 10 2013 04:40 GMT
#11218
On November 10 2013 13:31 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 13:28 sur_reaL wrote:
If only JD won that first game....

CONGRATS SOS!!!!! DAMN how he prepared for vZ, soooo well deserved!!!!



If only sOs 8 gated in that third game...





Haha, I think that would be too much for JD to handle...

But alas, the JD curse still lives on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH3hrtp1T84
Jnai
Profile Joined September 2010
United States442 Posts
November 10 2013 04:45 GMT
#11219
Pretty stellar finals played by SoS. Sharp builds, good decision making, and the game he lost was the game he should have won easily - where he had an unscouted hidden third the entire game.
sur_reaL
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada278 Posts
November 10 2013 04:48 GMT
#11220
I think he just wanted to give a game for free you know? Since JD keeps losing 0-4 at the finals

Just think about it, when JD wins a final, it'll be that much more epic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH3hrtp1T84
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