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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
October 17 2013 14:28 GMT
#81
On October 17 2013 23:27 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 22:50 Ghanburighan wrote:
On October 17 2013 22:49 ETisME wrote:
On October 17 2013 22:43 Ghanburighan wrote:
Innovation would be great at chess, Lucifron was trying to bait Inno into a widow mine with a banshee, but got trapped into losing both banshee and WM with a single scan.

nah this is like one of the easiest move in chess lol


I know you're trying to be facetious, but I'm genuinely curious as to which chess move you think this is. A fork would only get one, right.

the thing about chess is both players have perfect knowledge. your opponent knows your every move and vice versa.
you have to conseal your every move and make it hard to read for the opponent even when they can see what you are moving, deducing what your plan is and how you going to move.

Of cause, it might be different for western chess, but it is this case for chinese chess which i am pretty good at


Ah, I absolutely get that reference about chinese chess :D I'm really bad at it though
Year of MaxPax
XtreMe_au
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia412 Posts
October 17 2013 14:28 GMT
#82
On October 17 2013 23:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
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On October 17 2013 23:26 XtreMe_au wrote:
Terran learning new meta!

Just a combination of safety measure and lucky spawns. On cross spawns tanks would be a complete failure.

I meant the thors - terrans are starting to add them to biomine
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 17 2013 14:29 GMT
#83
On October 17 2013 23:28 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 23:26 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 17 2013 23:25 TheDwf wrote:
On October 17 2013 23:23 Ghanburighan wrote:
On October 17 2013 23:23 HugzForL wrote:
On October 17 2013 23:20 TheDwf wrote:
On October 17 2013 23:19 HugzForL wrote:
Does MMA put 4 scv in gas intentionally?

Fairly sure that no.


Ok. Also i don't quite understand what is up with building 3 tanks, for that cost a bunch of WM would be much better tbh.


Scared of a roach timing.

This. Vortix didn't react to the weaker agressive potential so it ended up being fine.

I would not say it is much weaker when distance between 4th of zerg and 3rd of terran is so much shorter than rush distance on steppes of war.

3 Tanks can still be overwhelmed quite easily if Terran tries to advance on creep.

True that, hence MMA kept the tanks and almost all the supporting cast outside of creep.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
October 17 2013 14:29 GMT
#84
Proxy oracle now maybe? :D
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 17 2013 14:29 GMT
#85
On October 17 2013 23:28 XtreMe_au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 23:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 17 2013 23:26 XtreMe_au wrote:
Terran learning new meta!

Just a combination of safety measure and lucky spawns. On cross spawns tanks would be a complete failure.

I meant the thors - terrans are starting to add them to biomine

MMA was adding thors to bio mine since pretty long time ago. They tank well for their cost and can hurt mutas more than mine shot.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
October 17 2013 14:32 GMT
#86
Whoa sick double probe harrass
Year of MaxPax
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
October 17 2013 14:32 GMT
#87
On October 17 2013 23:27 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 22:50 Ghanburighan wrote:
On October 17 2013 22:49 ETisME wrote:
On October 17 2013 22:43 Ghanburighan wrote:
Innovation would be great at chess, Lucifron was trying to bait Inno into a widow mine with a banshee, but got trapped into losing both banshee and WM with a single scan.

nah this is like one of the easiest move in chess lol


I know you're trying to be facetious, but I'm genuinely curious as to which chess move you think this is. A fork would only get one, right.

the thing about chess is both players have perfect knowledge. your opponent knows your every move and vice versa.
you have to conseal your every move and make it hard to read for the opponent even when they can see what you are moving, deducing what your plan is and how you going to move.

Of cause, it might be different for western chess, but it is this case for chinese chess which i am pretty good at


You mean Xiangqi, right? I'm afraid I don't know it. But there are definitely 'traps' in western chess, they merely require thinking ahead too many moves such that your optimal moves lure you in.

So, who's winning after the SCV war?
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 14:32:38
October 17 2013 14:32 GMT
#88
On October 17 2013 23:29 Niko_Thien wrote:
Proxy oracle now maybe? :D

This is not ATC season 1.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 17 2013 14:32 GMT
#89
In hots beta Polt was adding thorsinto his biomine comp.
Hipster terran is hipster
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12632 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 14:34:25
October 17 2013 14:32 GMT
#90
On October 17 2013 23:28 sudete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 23:27 ETisME wrote:
On October 17 2013 22:50 Ghanburighan wrote:
On October 17 2013 22:49 ETisME wrote:
On October 17 2013 22:43 Ghanburighan wrote:
Innovation would be great at chess, Lucifron was trying to bait Inno into a widow mine with a banshee, but got trapped into losing both banshee and WM with a single scan.

nah this is like one of the easiest move in chess lol


I know you're trying to be facetious, but I'm genuinely curious as to which chess move you think this is. A fork would only get one, right.

the thing about chess is both players have perfect knowledge. your opponent knows your every move and vice versa.
you have to conseal your every move and make it hard to read for the opponent even when they can see what you are moving, deducing what your plan is and how you going to move.

Of cause, it might be different for western chess, but it is this case for chinese chess which i am pretty good at


Ah, I absolutely get that reference about chinese chess :D I'm really bad at it though

my dad can pwn me even without three of the "aggressive" piece and he is my mentor XD

It's pretty insane how he can have total control of the game with equal moves as I do even if I have more pieces.
I can take away one of his pieces but suddenly my structure in the middle got weaken because of that and I have to take like 5 moves to win the middle back and then I realise I am losing out on somewhere else lol

it's more than just reading and predicting the moves, it's even moving the pieces beforehand to save the time to counter my moves.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 17 2013 14:33 GMT
#91
On October 17 2013 23:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 23:28 XtreMe_au wrote:
On October 17 2013 23:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 17 2013 23:26 XtreMe_au wrote:
Terran learning new meta!

Just a combination of safety measure and lucky spawns. On cross spawns tanks would be a complete failure.

I meant the thors - terrans are starting to add them to biomine

MMA was adding thors to bio mine since pretty long time ago. They tank well for their cost and can hurt mutas more than mine shot.

More often than not, I see them dying without doing much, for instance in Fantasy vs Sleep. With the way armies are generally positioned, mutas can magic box forward Thors without the 40+ Marines in the back being able to help.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 17 2013 14:34 GMT
#92
On October 17 2013 23:33 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 23:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 17 2013 23:28 XtreMe_au wrote:
On October 17 2013 23:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 17 2013 23:26 XtreMe_au wrote:
Terran learning new meta!

Just a combination of safety measure and lucky spawns. On cross spawns tanks would be a complete failure.

I meant the thors - terrans are starting to add them to biomine

MMA was adding thors to bio mine since pretty long time ago. They tank well for their cost and can hurt mutas more than mine shot.

More often than not, I see them dying without doing much, for instance in Fantasy vs Sleep. With the way armies are generally positioned, mutas can magic box forward Thors without the 40+ Marines in the back being able to help.

Well, he was generally having a supporting cast of those 20+ marines with 3-3. Especially in series against Life.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12632 Posts
October 17 2013 14:39 GMT
#93
mana turning that from horrible to amazing with that HT and sentries usage, pretty good FFs there
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
October 17 2013 14:40 GMT
#94
How the hell does one forget detection?! Come on... This looked like an interesting game for a moment.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
October 17 2013 14:41 GMT
#95
MMA probably scanned and couldn't believe there were no observers...
Year of MaxPax
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
October 17 2013 14:41 GMT
#96
Results as expected Korean Terran duo too strong. GG Acer!
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 14:42:12
October 17 2013 14:41 GMT
#97
Poor Mana, I'm sure he's seen terrans scan hundreds of times before trying to use cloaked ghosts. WP MMA
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 17 2013 14:43 GMT
#98
Just imagine Terran had cloaked flying units in these situations. Sadly they can't snipe observers.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 17 2013 14:44 GMT
#99
On October 17 2013 23:43 FeyFey wrote:
Just imagine Terran had cloaked flying units in these situations. Sadly they can't snipe observers.

Bring back the Wraith!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 17 2013 14:51 GMT
#100
Acer terran duo of doom strikes again!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
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