EPT[Code S] Ro16 Group C WCS KR GSL Season 3 2013 - Page 46
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ineq
Sweden376 Posts
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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NovaMB
Germany9534 Posts
On September 27 2013 20:42 Salient wrote: Mvp's 4 GSL titles over 3 years covering many different balance patches > Innovation's 1 GSL title won largely because he was the best at abusing overpowered Hellbats. I'm not kidding, Innovation even said, "when Blizzard nerfed the Hellblat, they nerfed me." The guy is good, but he is not better than the other top pros now that overpowered hellbats are gone. He is not a new Flash. You were talking about best player in the world, and Mvp certainly isnt it, doesnt matter how much hes won in the past. Name me a more consistent player than Innovation right now? | ||
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rothsbury
Australia1654 Posts
On September 27 2013 20:39 JustPassingBy wrote: Ah, my mistake. Okay, there were talking about sc1, not bw. Nevertheless, they are not talking about sc2 as claimed by the commercial. Care to link a study to me? Because I really find none.  The study itself is sort of confusing. I think they mean SC1 since they refer to the publishing date, but then they refer to "SC-1" and "SC-2", though the context suggests that these are two different instances of the same Starcraft. | ||
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Pyloss
Germany1515 Posts
and now, Super, get out of that group! | ||
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robson1
3632 Posts
On September 27 2013 20:41 1Dhalism wrote: innovation last 3 month - 40% tvt winrate. How in the hell could he possibly be a favorite, especially big enough favorite to mention it in every other sentence? Well jjakji is not great at tvt as well. He won against Bbyong and Marinelord, but also lost to flash, DieStar(yup) and Sting Not exactly the best opponents. | ||
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jonich0n
United States1982 Posts
On September 27 2013 20:39 PerSe wrote: How can Inno TvT be so bad? I think his TvT is even worse than Flash's...and that's saying something. uhh Flash's TvT has always been solid and lately been his best matchup. jjakji better be hoping Flash doesn't finish 2nd in his group, which would pair them up in the ro8... | ||
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saddaromma
1129 Posts
On September 27 2013 20:44 NovaMB wrote: You were talking about best player in the world, and Mvp certainly isnt it, doesnt matter how much hes won in the past. Name me a more consistent player than Innovation right now? Taeja. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On September 27 2013 20:42 Salient wrote: Mvp's 4 GSL titles over 3 years covering many different balance patches > Innovation's 1 GSL title won largely because he was the best at abusing overpowered Hellbats. I'm not kidding, Innovation even said, "when Blizzard nerfed the Hellblat, they nerfed me." The guy is good, but he is not better than the other top pros now that overpowered hellbats are gone. He is overhyped. He is not a new Flash. Innovation has 0 gsl/osl titles. He won the season finals weekend tournament | ||
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negativedge
4279 Posts
On September 27 2013 20:38 robson1 wrote: he and sniper are both in challenger league no? So I'd say it's a toss up. sniper had team league success. seed not so much. | ||
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robson1
3632 Posts
On September 27 2013 20:44 NovaMB wrote: You were talking about best player in the world, and Mvp certainly isnt it, doesnt matter how much hes won in the past. Name me a more consistent player than Innovation right now? I'd say the only players who could claim a consistently comparable track record in the last 3-4 months are Taeja and maaaaaybe JD. | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On September 27 2013 20:43 Scarecrow wrote: No way was that the worst. Early seasons of WoL were atrocious at the time were they really though? everything was "bad" back then gameplay wise however i can confidently say at the time of roro's season it was the worst. | ||
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painkilla
United States695 Posts
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
Happy LR, nerds! ♥ | ||
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gobbledydook
Australia2605 Posts
On September 27 2013 20:45 painkilla wrote: I like how despite so much crying about terran imba, all the terran champions have proved that they all deserved it. For P and Z, not so much. SK MC? | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On September 27 2013 20:39 rothsbury wrote: Yup, he's just riding on his glory days / hanging on artosis' coattails at this point. It's actually been shocking for me how much the quality of his casting has deteriorated. I have nothing against him, he seems like a nice person, but lately I've been cringing more than once. Where once the filler jokes and banter were a pleasant interim between technical analysis, it seems like they have become tasteless' entire repertoire. All surface, no substance. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On September 27 2013 20:44 rothsbury wrote: The study itself is sort of confusing. I think they mean SC1 since they refer to the publishing date, but then they refer to "SC-1" and "SC-2", though the context suggests that these are two different instances of the same Starcraft. Yeah, I personally think they meant map 1 and map 2 both in sc1, but oh well... | ||
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robson1
3632 Posts
On September 27 2013 20:45 negativedge wrote: sniper had team league success. seed not so much. Yes he did. Just not GSTL. But IPTL... | ||
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Salient
United States876 Posts
On September 27 2013 20:44 NovaMB wrote: You were talking about best player in the world, and Mvp certainly isnt it, doesnt matter how much hes won in the past. Name me a more consistent player than Innovation right now? No one is consistently supreme now. But Bomber and Taeja are probably better. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
You have to look at the quality of the opposition he is playing and also you have to look at the games and what actually happened. So even though innovation's worst matchup is TvT statistically.part of that is because he is playing the best Koreans and part of it is that crazy series against Maru which I don't think was a fair indicator of the strength of his TvT. Also I think if you ask anyone about JJakji vs Innovation. They will pick innovation due to recent success and the fact that he has beaten people like Flash in TvT. So all of you insulting Tasteless are just being ignorant and down right rude to a great, entertaining caster. | ||
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