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On September 25 2013 07:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 07:28 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:21 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:18 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:14 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:10 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:09 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:07 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:06 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:04 lolfail9001 wrote:
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He did in the end. And thats probably why he said 'today' and not 'in the end', right? And outplaying Happy? It was more Happy made a few critical mistakes with his bunkers, but I wouldn't call that outplaying from Stardust. Not to mention he came close enough to winning the tie. I'M PRETTY SURE if you won the game you outplayed your opponent pretty sure I mean I could be wrong Yeah better bet on that last one. With outplaying your opponent not the same as winning is meant. So yeah... But if you won the game you played better than your opponent did, isn't that what outplaying is? By outplaying generally it is meant that one player (generally the winner) showed clearly across the board better play. For example if you have a very close TvP, and the toss manages to sneak in two HTs with a flank and storms the entire Terran army, then that was clearly a good move by the protoss, but he didn't outplay the terran. Build order wins are also not outplaying. Outplaying is more like whatever you do, your opponent is doing it better. this is just semantics, because it's a video game and there are things that are strong and can quickly turn a game around you will have these moments where one player messes up and the other takes advantage like with the storm example. Even if It's just for a moment it is playing better than your opponent because if your opponent was playing better they wouldn't have let it happen. outplaying in your definition can't exist in this game unless two players of the same race do mirror builds ZvT example: You try to drop, he intercepts pretty much every drop. You attack, he flanks you. You try to deny one of his bases, you fail. Then you are being outplayed (assuming the zerg doesn't screw up his macro behind that). Really this isn't rocket science. And it is not my definition, it is the general definition used by everyone who doesn't randomly use the word... no It's just your subjective bias as to what constitutes as " outplaying " Objectively, you would agree that Stardust tied for worst player in the group in a bo3?
objectively I would say stardust was the player with the 2nd best win/loss record in the group so he advanced in second place.
targa 4-1
stardust 4-3
welmu 3-4
happy 1-4
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On September 25 2013 07:35 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 07:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:28 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:21 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:18 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:14 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:10 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:09 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:07 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:06 Sissors wrote:
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And thats probably why he said 'today' and not 'in the end', right?
And outplaying Happy? It was more Happy made a few critical mistakes with his bunkers, but I wouldn't call that outplaying from Stardust. Not to mention he came close enough to winning the tie. I'M PRETTY SURE if you won the game you outplayed your opponent pretty sure I mean I could be wrong Yeah better bet on that last one. With outplaying your opponent not the same as winning is meant. So yeah... But if you won the game you played better than your opponent did, isn't that what outplaying is? By outplaying generally it is meant that one player (generally the winner) showed clearly across the board better play. For example if you have a very close TvP, and the toss manages to sneak in two HTs with a flank and storms the entire Terran army, then that was clearly a good move by the protoss, but he didn't outplay the terran. Build order wins are also not outplaying. Outplaying is more like whatever you do, your opponent is doing it better. this is just semantics, because it's a video game and there are things that are strong and can quickly turn a game around you will have these moments where one player messes up and the other takes advantage like with the storm example. Even if It's just for a moment it is playing better than your opponent because if your opponent was playing better they wouldn't have let it happen. outplaying in your definition can't exist in this game unless two players of the same race do mirror builds ZvT example: You try to drop, he intercepts pretty much every drop. You attack, he flanks you. You try to deny one of his bases, you fail. Then you are being outplayed (assuming the zerg doesn't screw up his macro behind that). Really this isn't rocket science. And it is not my definition, it is the general definition used by everyone who doesn't randomly use the word... no It's just your subjective bias as to what constitutes as " outplaying " Objectively, you would agree that Stardust tied for worst player in the group in a bo3? objectively I would say stardust was the player with the 2nd best win/loss record in the group so he advanced in second place. targa 4-1 stardust 4-3 welmu 3-4 happy 1-4
Don't be blinded by his logic everyone, keep being upset for no reason.
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On September 25 2013 07:35 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 07:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:28 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:21 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:18 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:14 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:10 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:09 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:07 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:06 Sissors wrote:
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And thats probably why he said 'today' and not 'in the end', right?
And outplaying Happy? It was more Happy made a few critical mistakes with his bunkers, but I wouldn't call that outplaying from Stardust. Not to mention he came close enough to winning the tie. I'M PRETTY SURE if you won the game you outplayed your opponent pretty sure I mean I could be wrong Yeah better bet on that last one. With outplaying your opponent not the same as winning is meant. So yeah... But if you won the game you played better than your opponent did, isn't that what outplaying is? By outplaying generally it is meant that one player (generally the winner) showed clearly across the board better play. For example if you have a very close TvP, and the toss manages to sneak in two HTs with a flank and storms the entire Terran army, then that was clearly a good move by the protoss, but he didn't outplay the terran. Build order wins are also not outplaying. Outplaying is more like whatever you do, your opponent is doing it better. this is just semantics, because it's a video game and there are things that are strong and can quickly turn a game around you will have these moments where one player messes up and the other takes advantage like with the storm example. Even if It's just for a moment it is playing better than your opponent because if your opponent was playing better they wouldn't have let it happen. outplaying in your definition can't exist in this game unless two players of the same race do mirror builds ZvT example: You try to drop, he intercepts pretty much every drop. You attack, he flanks you. You try to deny one of his bases, you fail. Then you are being outplayed (assuming the zerg doesn't screw up his macro behind that). Really this isn't rocket science. And it is not my definition, it is the general definition used by everyone who doesn't randomly use the word... no It's just your subjective bias as to what constitutes as " outplaying " Objectively, you would agree that Stardust tied for worst player in the group in a bo3? objectively I would say stardust was the player with the 2nd best win/loss record in the group so he advanced in second place. targa 4-1 stardust 4-3 welmu 3-4 happy 1-4
But that's not what I asked.
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On September 25 2013 07:36 Fanatic-Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 07:35 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:28 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:21 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:18 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:14 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:10 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:09 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:07 Dodgin wrote:
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I'M PRETTY SURE
if you won the game
you outplayed your opponent
pretty sure
I mean I could be wrong Yeah better bet on that last one. With outplaying your opponent not the same as winning is meant. So yeah... But if you won the game you played better than your opponent did, isn't that what outplaying is? By outplaying generally it is meant that one player (generally the winner) showed clearly across the board better play. For example if you have a very close TvP, and the toss manages to sneak in two HTs with a flank and storms the entire Terran army, then that was clearly a good move by the protoss, but he didn't outplay the terran. Build order wins are also not outplaying. Outplaying is more like whatever you do, your opponent is doing it better. this is just semantics, because it's a video game and there are things that are strong and can quickly turn a game around you will have these moments where one player messes up and the other takes advantage like with the storm example. Even if It's just for a moment it is playing better than your opponent because if your opponent was playing better they wouldn't have let it happen. outplaying in your definition can't exist in this game unless two players of the same race do mirror builds ZvT example: You try to drop, he intercepts pretty much every drop. You attack, he flanks you. You try to deny one of his bases, you fail. Then you are being outplayed (assuming the zerg doesn't screw up his macro behind that). Really this isn't rocket science. And it is not my definition, it is the general definition used by everyone who doesn't randomly use the word... no It's just your subjective bias as to what constitutes as " outplaying " Objectively, you would agree that Stardust tied for worst player in the group in a bo3? objectively I would say stardust was the player with the 2nd best win/loss record in the group so he advanced in second place. targa 4-1 stardust 4-3 welmu 3-4 happy 1-4 But that's not what I asked.
he tied with welmu in bo3 series', while he won his other bo3 series and welmu lost his other bo3 series.
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On September 25 2013 07:37 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 07:36 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:35 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:28 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:21 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:18 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:14 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:10 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:09 Sissors wrote:
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Yeah better bet on that last one. With outplaying your opponent not the same as winning is meant. So yeah... But if you won the game you played better than your opponent did, isn't that what outplaying is? By outplaying generally it is meant that one player (generally the winner) showed clearly across the board better play. For example if you have a very close TvP, and the toss manages to sneak in two HTs with a flank and storms the entire Terran army, then that was clearly a good move by the protoss, but he didn't outplay the terran. Build order wins are also not outplaying. Outplaying is more like whatever you do, your opponent is doing it better. this is just semantics, because it's a video game and there are things that are strong and can quickly turn a game around you will have these moments where one player messes up and the other takes advantage like with the storm example. Even if It's just for a moment it is playing better than your opponent because if your opponent was playing better they wouldn't have let it happen. outplaying in your definition can't exist in this game unless two players of the same race do mirror builds ZvT example: You try to drop, he intercepts pretty much every drop. You attack, he flanks you. You try to deny one of his bases, you fail. Then you are being outplayed (assuming the zerg doesn't screw up his macro behind that). Really this isn't rocket science. And it is not my definition, it is the general definition used by everyone who doesn't randomly use the word... no It's just your subjective bias as to what constitutes as " outplaying " Objectively, you would agree that Stardust tied for worst player in the group in a bo3? objectively I would say stardust was the player with the 2nd best win/loss record in the group so he advanced in second place. targa 4-1 stardust 4-3 welmu 3-4 happy 1-4 But that's not what I asked. he tied with welmu in bo3 series', while he won his other bo3 series and welmu lost his other bo3 series.
But that's not what I asked.
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On September 25 2013 07:38 Fanatic-Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 07:37 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:36 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:35 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:28 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:21 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:18 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:14 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:10 Dodgin wrote:
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But if you won the game you played better than your opponent did, isn't that what outplaying is? By outplaying generally it is meant that one player (generally the winner) showed clearly across the board better play. For example if you have a very close TvP, and the toss manages to sneak in two HTs with a flank and storms the entire Terran army, then that was clearly a good move by the protoss, but he didn't outplay the terran. Build order wins are also not outplaying. Outplaying is more like whatever you do, your opponent is doing it better. this is just semantics, because it's a video game and there are things that are strong and can quickly turn a game around you will have these moments where one player messes up and the other takes advantage like with the storm example. Even if It's just for a moment it is playing better than your opponent because if your opponent was playing better they wouldn't have let it happen. outplaying in your definition can't exist in this game unless two players of the same race do mirror builds ZvT example: You try to drop, he intercepts pretty much every drop. You attack, he flanks you. You try to deny one of his bases, you fail. Then you are being outplayed (assuming the zerg doesn't screw up his macro behind that). Really this isn't rocket science. And it is not my definition, it is the general definition used by everyone who doesn't randomly use the word... no It's just your subjective bias as to what constitutes as " outplaying " Objectively, you would agree that Stardust tied for worst player in the group in a bo3? objectively I would say stardust was the player with the 2nd best win/loss record in the group so he advanced in second place. targa 4-1 stardust 4-3 welmu 3-4 happy 1-4 But that's not what I asked. he tied with welmu in bo3 series', while he won his other bo3 series and welmu lost his other bo3 series. But that's not what I asked.
Can you clarify your question?
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On September 25 2013 07:35 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 07:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:28 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:21 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:18 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:14 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:10 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:09 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:07 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:06 Sissors wrote:
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And thats probably why he said 'today' and not 'in the end', right?
And outplaying Happy? It was more Happy made a few critical mistakes with his bunkers, but I wouldn't call that outplaying from Stardust. Not to mention he came close enough to winning the tie. I'M PRETTY SURE if you won the game you outplayed your opponent pretty sure I mean I could be wrong Yeah better bet on that last one. With outplaying your opponent not the same as winning is meant. So yeah... But if you won the game you played better than your opponent did, isn't that what outplaying is? By outplaying generally it is meant that one player (generally the winner) showed clearly across the board better play. For example if you have a very close TvP, and the toss manages to sneak in two HTs with a flank and storms the entire Terran army, then that was clearly a good move by the protoss, but he didn't outplay the terran. Build order wins are also not outplaying. Outplaying is more like whatever you do, your opponent is doing it better. this is just semantics, because it's a video game and there are things that are strong and can quickly turn a game around you will have these moments where one player messes up and the other takes advantage like with the storm example. Even if It's just for a moment it is playing better than your opponent because if your opponent was playing better they wouldn't have let it happen. outplaying in your definition can't exist in this game unless two players of the same race do mirror builds ZvT example: You try to drop, he intercepts pretty much every drop. You attack, he flanks you. You try to deny one of his bases, you fail. Then you are being outplayed (assuming the zerg doesn't screw up his macro behind that). Really this isn't rocket science. And it is not my definition, it is the general definition used by everyone who doesn't randomly use the word... no It's just your subjective bias as to what constitutes as " outplaying " Objectively, you would agree that Stardust tied for worst player in the group in a bo3? objectively I would say stardust was the player with the 2nd best win/loss record in the group so he advanced in second place. targa 4-1 stardust 4-3 welmu 3-4 happy 1-4
and if welmu had won one game it would have been...
Stardust 4-4
welmu 4-4
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On September 25 2013 07:38 Fanatic-Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 07:37 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:36 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:35 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:28 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:21 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:18 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:14 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:10 Dodgin wrote:
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But if you won the game you played better than your opponent did, isn't that what outplaying is? By outplaying generally it is meant that one player (generally the winner) showed clearly across the board better play. For example if you have a very close TvP, and the toss manages to sneak in two HTs with a flank and storms the entire Terran army, then that was clearly a good move by the protoss, but he didn't outplay the terran. Build order wins are also not outplaying. Outplaying is more like whatever you do, your opponent is doing it better. this is just semantics, because it's a video game and there are things that are strong and can quickly turn a game around you will have these moments where one player messes up and the other takes advantage like with the storm example. Even if It's just for a moment it is playing better than your opponent because if your opponent was playing better they wouldn't have let it happen. outplaying in your definition can't exist in this game unless two players of the same race do mirror builds ZvT example: You try to drop, he intercepts pretty much every drop. You attack, he flanks you. You try to deny one of his bases, you fail. Then you are being outplayed (assuming the zerg doesn't screw up his macro behind that). Really this isn't rocket science. And it is not my definition, it is the general definition used by everyone who doesn't randomly use the word... no It's just your subjective bias as to what constitutes as " outplaying " Objectively, you would agree that Stardust tied for worst player in the group in a bo3? objectively I would say stardust was the player with the 2nd best win/loss record in the group so he advanced in second place. targa 4-1 stardust 4-3 welmu 3-4 happy 1-4 But that's not what I asked. he tied with welmu in bo3 series', while he won his other bo3 series and welmu lost his other bo3 series. But that's not what I asked.
I'm not taking your question at face value because it makes absolutely no sense. Happy was the worst player " in a bo3 " in this group because he went 0-2 in bo3's while the other players didn't go 0-2.
On September 25 2013 07:39 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 07:35 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:28 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:21 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:18 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:14 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:10 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:09 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:07 Dodgin wrote:
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I'M PRETTY SURE
if you won the game
you outplayed your opponent
pretty sure
I mean I could be wrong Yeah better bet on that last one. With outplaying your opponent not the same as winning is meant. So yeah... But if you won the game you played better than your opponent did, isn't that what outplaying is? By outplaying generally it is meant that one player (generally the winner) showed clearly across the board better play. For example if you have a very close TvP, and the toss manages to sneak in two HTs with a flank and storms the entire Terran army, then that was clearly a good move by the protoss, but he didn't outplay the terran. Build order wins are also not outplaying. Outplaying is more like whatever you do, your opponent is doing it better. this is just semantics, because it's a video game and there are things that are strong and can quickly turn a game around you will have these moments where one player messes up and the other takes advantage like with the storm example. Even if It's just for a moment it is playing better than your opponent because if your opponent was playing better they wouldn't have let it happen. outplaying in your definition can't exist in this game unless two players of the same race do mirror builds ZvT example: You try to drop, he intercepts pretty much every drop. You attack, he flanks you. You try to deny one of his bases, you fail. Then you are being outplayed (assuming the zerg doesn't screw up his macro behind that). Really this isn't rocket science. And it is not my definition, it is the general definition used by everyone who doesn't randomly use the word... no It's just your subjective bias as to what constitutes as " outplaying " Objectively, you would agree that Stardust tied for worst player in the group in a bo3? objectively I would say stardust was the player with the 2nd best win/loss record in the group so he advanced in second place. targa 4-1 stardust 4-3 welmu 3-4 happy 1-4 and if welmu had won one game it would have been... Stardust 4-4 welmu 4-4
then I would say stardust went 2-1 in bo3 series' while welmu went 1-2 in bo3 series'.
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On September 25 2013 07:39 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 07:38 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:37 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:36 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:35 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:28 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:21 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:18 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:14 Sissors wrote:
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By outplaying generally it is meant that one player (generally the winner) showed clearly across the board better play.
For example if you have a very close TvP, and the toss manages to sneak in two HTs with a flank and storms the entire Terran army, then that was clearly a good move by the protoss, but he didn't outplay the terran. Build order wins are also not outplaying. Outplaying is more like whatever you do, your opponent is doing it better. this is just semantics, because it's a video game and there are things that are strong and can quickly turn a game around you will have these moments where one player messes up and the other takes advantage like with the storm example. Even if It's just for a moment it is playing better than your opponent because if your opponent was playing better they wouldn't have let it happen. outplaying in your definition can't exist in this game unless two players of the same race do mirror builds ZvT example: You try to drop, he intercepts pretty much every drop. You attack, he flanks you. You try to deny one of his bases, you fail. Then you are being outplayed (assuming the zerg doesn't screw up his macro behind that). Really this isn't rocket science. And it is not my definition, it is the general definition used by everyone who doesn't randomly use the word... no It's just your subjective bias as to what constitutes as " outplaying " Objectively, you would agree that Stardust tied for worst player in the group in a bo3? objectively I would say stardust was the player with the 2nd best win/loss record in the group so he advanced in second place. targa 4-1 stardust 4-3 welmu 3-4 happy 1-4 But that's not what I asked. he tied with welmu in bo3 series', while he won his other bo3 series and welmu lost his other bo3 series. But that's not what I asked. Can you clarify your question?
Given that outplaying is here being defined objectively as synonymous with winning the game, I am asking if he would agree that in best of three game series, Stardust tied with the worst player in the group since they both went 1-1-1.
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On September 25 2013 07:42 Fanatic-Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 07:39 Darkhoarse wrote:On September 25 2013 07:38 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:37 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:36 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:35 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:28 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:21 Sissors wrote:On September 25 2013 07:18 Dodgin wrote:
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this is just semantics, because it's a video game and there are things that are strong and can quickly turn a game around you will have these moments where one player messes up and the other takes advantage like with the storm example. Even if It's just for a moment it is playing better than your opponent because if your opponent was playing better they wouldn't have let it happen.
outplaying in your definition can't exist in this game unless two players of the same race do mirror builds
ZvT example: You try to drop, he intercepts pretty much every drop. You attack, he flanks you. You try to deny one of his bases, you fail. Then you are being outplayed (assuming the zerg doesn't screw up his macro behind that). Really this isn't rocket science. And it is not my definition, it is the general definition used by everyone who doesn't randomly use the word... no It's just your subjective bias as to what constitutes as " outplaying " Objectively, you would agree that Stardust tied for worst player in the group in a bo3? objectively I would say stardust was the player with the 2nd best win/loss record in the group so he advanced in second place. targa 4-1 stardust 4-3 welmu 3-4 happy 1-4 But that's not what I asked. he tied with welmu in bo3 series', while he won his other bo3 series and welmu lost his other bo3 series. But that's not what I asked. Can you clarify your question? Given that outplaying is here being defined objectively as synonymous with winning the game, I am asking if he would agree that in best of three game series, Stardust tied with the worst player in the group since they both went 1-1-1.
I'm sorry assume I'm an idiot. By what logic did Happy and Stardust both go 1-1-1?
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On September 25 2013 07:47 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 07:42 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:39 Darkhoarse wrote:On September 25 2013 07:38 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:37 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:36 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:35 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:28 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:21 Sissors wrote:
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ZvT example:
You try to drop, he intercepts pretty much every drop. You attack, he flanks you. You try to deny one of his bases, you fail. Then you are being outplayed (assuming the zerg doesn't screw up his macro behind that). Really this isn't rocket science. And it is not my definition, it is the general definition used by everyone who doesn't randomly use the word... no It's just your subjective bias as to what constitutes as " outplaying " Objectively, you would agree that Stardust tied for worst player in the group in a bo3? objectively I would say stardust was the player with the 2nd best win/loss record in the group so he advanced in second place. targa 4-1 stardust 4-3 welmu 3-4 happy 1-4 But that's not what I asked. he tied with welmu in bo3 series', while he won his other bo3 series and welmu lost his other bo3 series. But that's not what I asked. Can you clarify your question? Given that outplaying is here being defined objectively as synonymous with winning the game, I am asking if he would agree that in best of three game series, Stardust tied with the worst player in the group since they both went 1-1-1. I'm sorry assume I'm an idiot. By what logic did Happy and Stardust both go 1-1-1?
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to spoil the games for you.
+ Show Spoiler +Stardust and Happy ended game 3 of their series in a draw. They had to play a fourth game to determine who would move to the final series.
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Why are there no Twitch vods? Can someone link me to the vods?
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On September 25 2013 07:50 Fanatic-Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 07:47 Darkhoarse wrote:On September 25 2013 07:42 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:39 Darkhoarse wrote:On September 25 2013 07:38 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:37 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:36 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:35 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:28 Dodgin wrote:
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no It's just your subjective bias as to what constitutes as " outplaying " Objectively, you would agree that Stardust tied for worst player in the group in a bo3? objectively I would say stardust was the player with the 2nd best win/loss record in the group so he advanced in second place. targa 4-1 stardust 4-3 welmu 3-4 happy 1-4 But that's not what I asked. he tied with welmu in bo3 series', while he won his other bo3 series and welmu lost his other bo3 series. But that's not what I asked. Can you clarify your question? Given that outplaying is here being defined objectively as synonymous with winning the game, I am asking if he would agree that in best of three game series, Stardust tied with the worst player in the group since they both went 1-1-1. I'm sorry assume I'm an idiot. By what logic did Happy and Stardust both go 1-1-1? Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to spoil the games for you. + Show Spoiler +Stardust and Happy ended game 3 of their series in a draw. They had to play a fourth game to determine who would move to the final series.
Oh that explains why I didn't get what the hell you were talking about haha. I didn't see Happy vs. Stardust. My bad!
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On September 25 2013 07:51 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 07:50 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:47 Darkhoarse wrote:On September 25 2013 07:42 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:39 Darkhoarse wrote:On September 25 2013 07:38 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:37 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:36 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:35 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
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Objectively, you would agree that Stardust tied for worst player in the group in a bo3? objectively I would say stardust was the player with the 2nd best win/loss record in the group so he advanced in second place. targa 4-1 stardust 4-3 welmu 3-4 happy 1-4 But that's not what I asked. he tied with welmu in bo3 series', while he won his other bo3 series and welmu lost his other bo3 series. But that's not what I asked. Can you clarify your question? Given that outplaying is here being defined objectively as synonymous with winning the game, I am asking if he would agree that in best of three game series, Stardust tied with the worst player in the group since they both went 1-1-1. I'm sorry assume I'm an idiot. By what logic did Happy and Stardust both go 1-1-1? Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to spoil the games for you. + Show Spoiler +Stardust and Happy ended game 3 of their series in a draw. They had to play a fourth game to determine who would move to the final series. Oh that explains why I didn't get what the hell you were talking about haha. I didn't see Happy vs. Stardust. My bad!
You might want to watch it anyway. That game was pretty amazing  .
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On September 25 2013 07:52 Fanatic-Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 07:51 Darkhoarse wrote:On September 25 2013 07:50 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:47 Darkhoarse wrote:On September 25 2013 07:42 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:39 Darkhoarse wrote:On September 25 2013 07:38 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:37 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 07:36 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On September 25 2013 07:35 Dodgin wrote:
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objectively I would say stardust was the player with the 2nd best win/loss record in the group so he advanced in second place.
targa 4-1
stardust 4-3
welmu 3-4
happy 1-4 But that's not what I asked. he tied with welmu in bo3 series', while he won his other bo3 series and welmu lost his other bo3 series. But that's not what I asked. Can you clarify your question? Given that outplaying is here being defined objectively as synonymous with winning the game, I am asking if he would agree that in best of three game series, Stardust tied with the worst player in the group since they both went 1-1-1. I'm sorry assume I'm an idiot. By what logic did Happy and Stardust both go 1-1-1? Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to spoil the games for you. + Show Spoiler +Stardust and Happy ended game 3 of their series in a draw. They had to play a fourth game to determine who would move to the final series. Oh that explains why I didn't get what the hell you were talking about haha. I didn't see Happy vs. Stardust. My bad! You might want to watch it anyway. That game was pretty amazing .
I bet! Been awhile since I've seen a draw.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
I hope they upload the VODs soon >.>
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On September 25 2013 11:19 lichter wrote:
I hope they upload the VODs soon >.>
I don't get why it isn't available on twitch like every other time. Wanted to watch while i worked today T__T
edit: need to sub to view vods from ro16 on i guess
edit2: i subbed and they still aren't there lol
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On September 25 2013 11:19 lichter wrote:
I hope they upload the VODs soon >.>
That's a good question,i wanna see Happy - Stardust game 3 again and again and again...
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