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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 25 2013 04:46 GMT
#1261
On September 25 2013 13:41 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 11:19 lichter wrote:
I hope they upload the VODs soon >.>

That's a good question,i wanna see Happy - Stardust game 3 again and again and again...


I need it to make the recap =/
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
September 25 2013 04:49 GMT
#1262
On September 25 2013 13:46 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 13:41 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
On September 25 2013 11:19 lichter wrote:
I hope they upload the VODs soon >.>

That's a good question,i wanna see Happy - Stardust game 3 again and again and again...


I need it to make the recap =/

they have two series up but not the one you want.
Moderatorlickypiddy
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 25 2013 04:52 GMT
#1263
On September 25 2013 13:49 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 13:46 lichter wrote:
On September 25 2013 13:41 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
On September 25 2013 11:19 lichter wrote:
I hope they upload the VODs soon >.>

That's a good question,i wanna see Happy - Stardust game 3 again and again and again...


I need it to make the recap =/

they have two series up but not the one you want.


Yeah already saw the initial matches. I wonder if they forgot it, since this is the first time it has taken this long
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
September 25 2013 06:59 GMT
#1264
fck yea Targa! I knew he will make it!
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
September 25 2013 07:41 GMT
#1265
Looks like Stardust has outclassed the group again as expected.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
September 25 2013 07:57 GMT
#1266
On September 25 2013 16:41 NoGasfOu wrote:
Looks like Stardust has outclassed the group again as expected.


Outclassed is quite a strong word, considering the fact that he went 0:2 in his first BO3 (yes PvP, but still).

However, I too think that he was one of the strongest players in this group and in hindsight and light of how dramatic the PvT between him and happy was WE should be happy it went that way
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Sissors
Profile Joined March 2012
1395 Posts
September 25 2013 07:58 GMT
#1267
On September 25 2013 16:41 NoGasfOu wrote:
Looks like Stardust has outclassed the group again as expected.

With the smallest differences he barely managed to get second place.

Conclusion: he outclassed the group...
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
September 25 2013 08:18 GMT
#1268
On September 25 2013 16:41 NoGasfOu wrote:
Looks like Stardust has outclassed the group again as expected.

StarDust got destroyed so badly in first set that nobody can belive you..
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
September 25 2013 08:21 GMT
#1269
On September 25 2013 07:39 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 07:35 Dodgin wrote:
On September 25 2013 07:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On September 25 2013 07:28 Dodgin wrote:
On September 25 2013 07:21 Sissors wrote:
On September 25 2013 07:18 Dodgin wrote:
On September 25 2013 07:14 Sissors wrote:
On September 25 2013 07:10 Dodgin wrote:
On September 25 2013 07:09 Sissors wrote:
On September 25 2013 07:07 Dodgin wrote:
[quote]

I'M PRETTY SURE

if you won the game

you outplayed your opponent

pretty sure

I mean I could be wrong

Yeah better bet on that last one. With outplaying your opponent not the same as winning is meant. So yeah...


But if you won the game you played better than your opponent did, isn't that what outplaying is?

By outplaying generally it is meant that one player (generally the winner) showed clearly across the board better play.

For example if you have a very close TvP, and the toss manages to sneak in two HTs with a flank and storms the entire Terran army, then that was clearly a good move by the protoss, but he didn't outplay the terran. Build order wins are also not outplaying. Outplaying is more like whatever you do, your opponent is doing it better.


this is just semantics, because it's a video game and there are things that are strong and can quickly turn a game around you will have these moments where one player messes up and the other takes advantage like with the storm example. Even if It's just for a moment it is playing better than your opponent because if your opponent was playing better they wouldn't have let it happen.

outplaying in your definition can't exist in this game unless two players of the same race do mirror builds

ZvT example:
You try to drop, he intercepts pretty much every drop. You attack, he flanks you. You try to deny one of his bases, you fail. Then you are being outplayed (assuming the zerg doesn't screw up his macro behind that). Really this isn't rocket science. And it is not my definition, it is the general definition used by everyone who doesn't randomly use the word...


no It's just your subjective bias as to what constitutes as " outplaying "


Objectively, you would agree that Stardust tied for worst player in the group in a bo3?


objectively I would say stardust was the player with the 2nd best win/loss record in the group so he advanced in second place.

targa 4-1
stardust 4-3
welmu 3-4
happy 1-4


and if welmu had won one game it would have been...

Stardust 4-4
welmu 4-4

If welmu would had won one more map he would have been 4 - 0 :D
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
September 25 2013 09:00 GMT
#1270
how did happy manage to lose on belshir? he had some flying buildings and stardust had nothing but a ground army when I turned off yesterday.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
September 25 2013 09:28 GMT
#1271
On September 25 2013 18:00 virpi wrote:
how did happy manage to lose on belshir? he had some flying buildings and stardust had nothing but a ground army when I turned off yesterday.


It was a draw and he lost the rematch
Undrass
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway381 Posts
September 25 2013 09:42 GMT
#1272
where is the VoD? Can't find it on twitch
Denar
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1633 Posts
September 25 2013 10:31 GMT
#1273
On September 25 2013 18:42 Undrass wrote:
where is the VoD? Can't find it on twitch


esl upload them on Youtube, but they only have the first 2 games up right now
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