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GodZo
Profile Joined November 2011
Italy224 Posts
September 05 2013 12:47 GMT
#1101
On September 05 2013 21:41 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 21:41 eGoRama wrote:
The SCV pulls are really starting to annoy me in this match up. Also one of the few things that makes me mad in my PvT on ladder


Then tell Blizzard to fix late game TvP.


We see SCV pull since 2010
Fix Mules, problem solved
프로토스, Yellow, GdZ
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
September 05 2013 12:47 GMT
#1102
These were the perfect results of the day.

Flash (<3) and Jjakji making it through, and First crashing down. Great day.
Flash | Mvp
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 05 2013 12:48 GMT
#1103
dont doubt the jjak
A backwards poet writes inverse.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 05 2013 12:48 GMT
#1104
On September 05 2013 21:47 GodZo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 21:41 vthree wrote:
On September 05 2013 21:41 eGoRama wrote:
The SCV pulls are really starting to annoy me in this match up. Also one of the few things that makes me mad in my PvT on ladder


Then tell Blizzard to fix late game TvP.


We see SCV pull since 2010
Fix Mules, problem solved

Fix TvP, scv pull reasons fixed too!
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
September 05 2013 12:48 GMT
#1105
On September 05 2013 21:41 eGoRama wrote:
The SCV pulls are really starting to annoy me in this match up. Also one of the few things that makes me mad in my PvT on ladder

It's not only starting to annoy me, it's just been disgusting me for a pretty long time.
JonIrenicus
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Italy602 Posts
September 05 2013 12:49 GMT
#1106
--- Nuked ---
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
September 05 2013 12:50 GMT
#1107
On September 05 2013 21:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 21:47 GodZo wrote:
On September 05 2013 21:41 vthree wrote:
On September 05 2013 21:41 eGoRama wrote:
The SCV pulls are really starting to annoy me in this match up. Also one of the few things that makes me mad in my PvT on ladder


Then tell Blizzard to fix late game TvP.


We see SCV pull since 2010
Fix Mules, problem solved

Fix TvP, scv pull reasons fixed too!

Fixing TvP is removing the possibility of doing such timing. This is not the late game TvP that's broken.
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
September 05 2013 12:52 GMT
#1108
On September 05 2013 21:45 Thrillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 21:43 Viserion wrote:
On September 05 2013 21:41 vthree wrote:
On September 05 2013 21:41 eGoRama wrote:
The SCV pulls are really starting to annoy me in this match up. Also one of the few things that makes me mad in my PvT on ladder


Then tell Blizzard to fix late game TvP.


This, there is not many terrans who are willing to fight against 200/200 max protoss army with double Time Warps on the ground.


"But asymmetric balance so it's all good herp derp" -Blizzard

Turns out that doesn't work.

It can work if done right. obviously there are some issues that discourage Terrans from entering the stage of the game where storm is available but they can't reduce their army yet through mules.
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
September 05 2013 12:53 GMT
#1109
On September 05 2013 21:52 Hryul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 21:45 Thrillz wrote:
On September 05 2013 21:43 Viserion wrote:
On September 05 2013 21:41 vthree wrote:
On September 05 2013 21:41 eGoRama wrote:
The SCV pulls are really starting to annoy me in this match up. Also one of the few things that makes me mad in my PvT on ladder


Then tell Blizzard to fix late game TvP.


This, there is not many terrans who are willing to fight against 200/200 max protoss army with double Time Warps on the ground.


"But asymmetric balance so it's all good herp derp" -Blizzard

Turns out that doesn't work.

It can work if done right. obviously there are some issues that discourage Terrans from entering the stage of the game where storm is available but they can't reduce their army yet through mules.

Not like terrans have ghosts. And even without them, lately a lot of terrans have shown how to crush a protoss with storm even without ghosts.
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
September 05 2013 12:53 GMT
#1110
On September 05 2013 21:50 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 21:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 05 2013 21:47 GodZo wrote:
On September 05 2013 21:41 vthree wrote:
On September 05 2013 21:41 eGoRama wrote:
The SCV pulls are really starting to annoy me in this match up. Also one of the few things that makes me mad in my PvT on ladder


Then tell Blizzard to fix late game TvP.


We see SCV pull since 2010
Fix Mules, problem solved

Fix TvP, scv pull reasons fixed too!

Fixing TvP is removing the possibility of doing such timing. This is not the late game TvP that's broken.


If you think that's the main problem that needs to be fixed in TvP I don't know what to say. TvP lategame has been an issue since WoL
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12275 Posts
September 05 2013 12:54 GMT
#1111
On September 05 2013 21:48 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 21:41 eGoRama wrote:
The SCV pulls are really starting to annoy me in this match up. Also one of the few things that makes me mad in my PvT on ladder

It's not only starting to annoy me, it's just been disgusting me for a pretty long time.


Oh my god, he's using his race's advantages, that's disgusting!
No will to live, no wish to die
RifleCow
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada637 Posts
September 05 2013 12:55 GMT
#1112
If your toss is playing greedy, then an SCV pull is the right choice. People should really look into the games instead of blaming balance all the time. Aggressive cheeses and all-ins happened all the time in BW.
hohoho
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 05 2013 12:55 GMT
#1113
On September 05 2013 21:50 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 21:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 05 2013 21:47 GodZo wrote:
On September 05 2013 21:41 vthree wrote:
On September 05 2013 21:41 eGoRama wrote:
The SCV pulls are really starting to annoy me in this match up. Also one of the few things that makes me mad in my PvT on ladder


Then tell Blizzard to fix late game TvP.


We see SCV pull since 2010
Fix Mules, problem solved

Fix TvP, scv pull reasons fixed too!

Fixing TvP is removing the possibility of doing such timing. This is not the late game TvP that's broken.

Good thing that Protoss can remove the possibility himself by opening Templar then?
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
September 05 2013 12:55 GMT
#1114
Awesome that jjakji advanced! Happy for him :D
Moderatorlickypiddy
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 12:57:37
September 05 2013 12:56 GMT
#1115
On September 05 2013 21:54 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 21:48 samurai80 wrote:
On September 05 2013 21:41 eGoRama wrote:
The SCV pulls are really starting to annoy me in this match up. Also one of the few things that makes me mad in my PvT on ladder

It's not only starting to annoy me, it's just been disgusting me for a pretty long time.


Oh my god, he's using his race's advantages, that's disgusting!

Sorry but SCVs are not supposed to be used in fights everytime. That just doesn't sound right. For me it looks almost as stupid as Naniwa's probe rush a long time ago.
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
September 05 2013 12:57 GMT
#1116
I dont understand why tossers think they can just invest in both coll and HT despite the 3rd barly being up for any sunstantial amount of time. Toss players tech so hard in two seperate directions and skip tons of gateway units. Then they lose to an scv pull and are like "waaaah"
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 05 2013 12:58 GMT
#1117
On September 05 2013 21:50 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 21:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 05 2013 21:47 GodZo wrote:
On September 05 2013 21:41 vthree wrote:
On September 05 2013 21:41 eGoRama wrote:
The SCV pulls are really starting to annoy me in this match up. Also one of the few things that makes me mad in my PvT on ladder


Then tell Blizzard to fix late game TvP.


We see SCV pull since 2010
Fix Mules, problem solved

Fix TvP, scv pull reasons fixed too!

Fixing TvP is removing the possibility of doing such timing. This is not the late game TvP that's broken.


But you still have to agree that this has become a LOT more popular since the hellbats nerfs. The reason? If you let Ps gets that double AoE 3-3 chargelots comp., the Terran is in a much tougher spot. Is it unwinnable? No. But as a pro gamer, do d you do something that has 50% success rate? Or something with 25% success rate?

And the reason the SCV pull works is that Protoss are building less army/sentries to get that AoE out. So if you can hit before AoE, they have invested resources into things they can't use it. It is like Ps hitting a gateway attack before stim/medivacs.
GodZo
Profile Joined November 2011
Italy224 Posts
September 05 2013 12:58 GMT
#1118
On September 05 2013 21:54 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 21:48 samurai80 wrote:
On September 05 2013 21:41 eGoRama wrote:
The SCV pulls are really starting to annoy me in this match up. Also one of the few things that makes me mad in my PvT on ladder

It's not only starting to annoy me, it's just been disgusting me for a pretty long time.


Oh my god, he's using his race's advantages, that's disgusting!


it's not only an advantage, it's a broken mechanic,

but David Kim and Dustin Browdler and Blizzard only think to "money", and now when a lot of players are going to LoL they are paying their greed.
프로토스, Yellow, GdZ
eGoRama
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria1542 Posts
September 05 2013 12:58 GMT
#1119
On September 05 2013 21:55 RifleCow wrote:
If your toss is playing greedy, then an SCV pull is the right choice. People should really look into the games instead of blaming balance all the time. Aggressive cheeses and all-ins happened all the time in BW.


Nah I dont blame balance and I acknowledge that this is good strategy, it just annoys me
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12275 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 13:00:05
September 05 2013 12:59 GMT
#1120
On September 05 2013 21:56 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 21:54 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 05 2013 21:48 samurai80 wrote:
On September 05 2013 21:41 eGoRama wrote:
The SCV pulls are really starting to annoy me in this match up. Also one of the few things that makes me mad in my PvT on ladder

It's not only starting to annoy me, it's just been disgusting me for a pretty long time.


Oh my god, he's using his race's advantages, that's disgusting!

Sorry but using SCVs are not supposed to be used in fights everytime. That just doesn't sound right. For me it looks almost as stupid as Naniwa's probe rush a long time ago.


Strats aren't there to sound right, strats are there to work. Seems this one works. As a protoss you should be as experienced as I am in getting shat on whenever you win a game. That's not a good experience. Don't replicate it for the other races please.
No will to live, no wish to die
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