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On September 05 2013 04:15 NoGasfOu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 03:53 buntuka wrote:
I am not a good player. At all. So this is a genuine question? Why do people not just play supersafe against deokduck? I mean you can be 95% certain that he will all in or attack very early. Especially in the online rounds, thats all he ever did in WCS EU. Are his all-ins so crisp that his opponents still just dont manage to defend? blah blah blah...he all ins, me better skill and me lose to all-ins. blah blah blah. Stop blaming all-ins. When you don't have the skill to win game, stop blaming others.
? Hes not complaing that Duckduck can only all-in and win, hes just asking why people dont play safe vs duckduck because he is known to all-in/pressure a lot..
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On September 05 2013 04:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 04:17 Dodgin wrote:On September 05 2013 04:15 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On September 05 2013 04:08 ptbl wrote:On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x) Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners. Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players. You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train next stop dota/league of legends Oh, hows that? There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea.
No, we all know the vocal minority wants to see foreign vs. korea
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On September 05 2013 04:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 04:17 Dodgin wrote:On September 05 2013 04:15 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On September 05 2013 04:08 ptbl wrote:On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x) Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners. Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players. You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train next stop dota/league of legends Oh, hows that? There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea.
I'm saying the korean dominance is never going to change so you might as well pack your bags and hop on the next train to anesportwhereforeignerswinalot town.
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Russian Federation40186 Posts
On September 05 2013 04:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 04:17 Dodgin wrote:On September 05 2013 04:15 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On September 05 2013 04:08 ptbl wrote:On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x) Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners. Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players. You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train next stop dota/league of legends Oh, hows that? There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea.
Cheer for likeable Koreans then, what is the problem?
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On September 05 2013 04:22 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 04:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On September 05 2013 04:17 Dodgin wrote:On September 05 2013 04:15 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On September 05 2013 04:08 ptbl wrote:On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x) Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners. Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players. You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train next stop dota/league of legends Oh, hows that? There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea. I'm saying the korean dominance is never going to change so you might as well pack your bags and hop on the next train to anesportwhereforeignerswinalot town.
As in all other esport games ever minus BW, SC2? ^^
You know the problem is that a large chunk of the community will and already have done exactly what you said in that post.
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On September 05 2013 04:23 4ZakeN87 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 04:22 Dodgin wrote:On September 05 2013 04:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On September 05 2013 04:17 Dodgin wrote:On September 05 2013 04:15 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On September 05 2013 04:08 ptbl wrote:On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x) Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners. Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players. You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train next stop dota/league of legends Oh, hows that? There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea. I'm saying the korean dominance is never going to change so you might as well pack your bags and hop on the next train to anesportwhereforeignerswinalot town. As in all other esport games ever minus BW, SC2? ^^ You know the problem is that a large chunk of the community will and already have done exactly what you said in that post.
I know they have, I just think It's useless to whine about it on the forums at this point.
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On September 05 2013 04:22 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 04:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On September 05 2013 04:17 Dodgin wrote:On September 05 2013 04:15 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On September 05 2013 04:08 ptbl wrote:On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x) Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners. Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players. You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train next stop dota/league of legends Oh, hows that? There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea. I'm saying the korean dominance is never going to change so you might as well pack your bags and hop on the next train to anesportwhereforeignerswinalot town.
Why foreigners need to win "alot"?
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On September 05 2013 04:23 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 04:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On September 05 2013 04:17 Dodgin wrote:On September 05 2013 04:15 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On September 05 2013 04:08 ptbl wrote:On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x) Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners. Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players. You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train next stop dota/league of legends Oh, hows that? There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea. Cheer for likeable Koreans then, what is the problem?
Who is?
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On September 05 2013 04:26 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 04:23 4ZakeN87 wrote:On September 05 2013 04:22 Dodgin wrote:On September 05 2013 04:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On September 05 2013 04:17 Dodgin wrote:On September 05 2013 04:15 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On September 05 2013 04:08 ptbl wrote:On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x) Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners. Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players. You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train next stop dota/league of legends Oh, hows that? There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea. I'm saying the korean dominance is never going to change so you might as well pack your bags and hop on the next train to anesportwhereforeignerswinalot town. As in all other esport games ever minus BW, SC2? ^^ You know the problem is that a large chunk of the community will and already have done exactly what you said in that post. I know they have, I just think It's useless to whine about it on the forums at this point.
Well you have a point there. Although if it would contribute to region lock it is not pointless, I guess it doesnt though, the decrease in viewer numbers are what is really speaking on this matter.
Anyway I think some residency based region lock is necessary if SC2 wants to continue to be among the big boys of esport.
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On September 05 2013 04:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 04:23 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 05 2013 04:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On September 05 2013 04:17 Dodgin wrote:On September 05 2013 04:15 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On September 05 2013 04:08 ptbl wrote:On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x) Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners. Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players. You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train next stop dota/league of legends Oh, hows that? There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea. Cheer for likeable Koreans then, what is the problem? Who is?
Too many to count, if you had been watching the GSL for the past 3 years like a lot of us you would be able to identify with the old legends easily. I'll cheer for Mvp over anyone else including all foreigners and I'm not Korean.
On September 05 2013 04:30 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 04:22 Dodgin wrote:On September 05 2013 04:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On September 05 2013 04:17 Dodgin wrote:On September 05 2013 04:15 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On September 05 2013 04:08 ptbl wrote:On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x) Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners. Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players. You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train next stop dota/league of legends Oh, hows that? There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea. I'm saying the korean dominance is never going to change so you might as well pack your bags and hop on the next train to anesportwhereforeignerswinalot town. Why foreigners need to win "alot"?
Not sure why the " alot " when I was using the sentence as one word because It's supposed to be the name of the town, It's part of the joke!
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On September 05 2013 04:09 4ZakeN87 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 04:08 ptbl wrote:On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x) Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners. Yeah I known, but the problem is that they are crippling the scene in the process. It is not their fault, it just a consequence of their dominance + combined with their culture. Amusingly it would probably benefit Korean pros to be less dominant x)
What an amusing way of wording this. I like how foreigners losing and "crippling the scene" is the fault of everyone but foreigners. You say it's not their fault but you say it's because of Korean dominance and culture (aka..it's their fault), instead of the fault of the lack of dominance and culture of the foreigners.
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On September 05 2013 04:34 Heavenlee wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 04:09 4ZakeN87 wrote:On September 05 2013 04:08 ptbl wrote:On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x) Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners. Yeah I known, but the problem is that they are crippling the scene in the process. It is not their fault, it just a consequence of their dominance + combined with their culture. Amusingly it would probably benefit Korean pros to be less dominant x) What an amusing way of wording this. I like how foreigners losing and "crippling the scene" is the fault of everyone but foreigners. You say it's not their fault but you say it's because of Korean dominance and culture (aka..it's their fault), instead of the fault of the lack of dominance and culture of the foreigners.
I said it is a consequence of their dominance. Why it occurs is irrelevant for the effect it causes.
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On September 05 2013 03:53 Undead1993 wrote:
actually grubby could make it to blizzcon, he has not a very hard group at wcs eu
I voted it the group of death and I remember many people agreeing^^
Still I agree with Lucifron's current TvP Grubby has a good shot
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On September 05 2013 04:23 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 04:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On September 05 2013 04:17 Dodgin wrote:On September 05 2013 04:15 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On September 05 2013 04:08 ptbl wrote:On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x) Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners. Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players. You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train next stop dota/league of legends Oh, hows that? There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea. Cheer for likeable Koreans then, what is the problem?
Stardust has taken the foreign world by storm
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On September 05 2013 04:52 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 03:53 Undead1993 wrote:
actually grubby could make it to blizzcon, he has not a very hard group at wcs eu I voted it the group of death and I remember many people agreeing^^ Still I agree with Lucifron's current TvP Grubby has a good shot
well genius plays from kr and it's pvp and starbuck is not a hard opponent either, i think grubby might have it and i don't think taht's the group of death lol
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Not surprised by SaSe's play today, would have hoped for a little more, but his confidence when he plays with lag doesn't really help him. We will probably not see him in WCS Europe next season anyway. I think he will try in NA or do Code A qualifier the whole next year because he then knew he had a shot to play his a game while being in Taiwan. Btw congrats to Happy and the duck.
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Loving these results so far 
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On September 05 2013 04:56 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 04:52 Nebuchad wrote:On September 05 2013 03:53 Undead1993 wrote:
actually grubby could make it to blizzcon, he has not a very hard group at wcs eu I voted it the group of death and I remember many people agreeing^^ Still I agree with Lucifron's current TvP Grubby has a good shot well genius plays from kr and it's pvp and starbuck is not a hard opponent either, i think grubby might have it and i don't think taht's the group of death lol
Either you're underestimating Starbuck or I'm overestimating him. He has impressed me the last few games I've seen.
Ofc I'm not trying to say it's like Flash Inno Life Parting or something, I just thought it was the hardest group in the Ro32. Although I will admit the reason I didn't think group A was the group of death was because I didn't think Targa was much of a threat, so I should probably reconsider =)
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noooo sase!!!!
i guess happy is a boss tho . gl to him
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On September 05 2013 04:15 NoGasfOu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 03:53 buntuka wrote:
I am not a good player. At all. So this is a genuine question? Why do people not just play supersafe against deokduck? I mean you can be 95% certain that he will all in or attack very early. Especially in the online rounds, thats all he ever did in WCS EU. Are his all-ins so crisp that his opponents still just dont manage to defend? blah blah blah...he all ins, me better skill and me lose to all-ins. blah blah blah. Stop blaming all-ins. When you don't have the skill to win game, stop blaming others.
I'm not judging the duck here and I don't dislike all ins either. The game would be boring without them. I just fail to understand why so many pro aren't able to defend against them, given that they should be able to predict them coming with extreme certainty. So blah blah yourself.
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