★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
21%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
21%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend duckdeok vs. TLO Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend duckdeok vs. TLO Game 2?
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (4)
44%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
33%
★★★ - Good game (1)
11%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
11%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend duckdeok vs. TLO Game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend duckdeok vs. TLO Game 3?
★★★ - Good game (9)
50%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
33%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
11%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
6%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
18 total votes
Your vote: Recommend duckdeok vs. TLO Game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
6%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
2%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
47 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Happy vs. SaSe Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Happy vs. SaSe Game 2?
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (7)
29%
★★★ - Good game (6)
25%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (5)
21%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
13%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
13%
24 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Happy vs. SaSe Game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Happy vs. SaSe Game 3?
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (6)
43%
★★★ - Good game (4)
29%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (2)
14%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
7%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
7%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Happy vs. SaSe Game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
36%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (2)
14%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
14%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' match Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners' match Game 2?
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (7)
70%
★★★ - Good game (2)
20%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
10%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' match Game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners' match Game 3?
★★★ - Good game (3)
43%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
29%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
14%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
14%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' match Game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
40%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' match Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers' match Game 2?
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8)
57%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (5)
36%
★★★ - Good game (1)
7%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' match Game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers' match Game 3?
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (5)
42%
★★★ - Good game (4)
33%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
17%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
8%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' match Game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
36%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
9%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final match Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final match Game 2?
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (7)
50%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
29%
★★★ - Good game (2)
14%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
7%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final match Game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final match Game 3?
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
42%
★★★ - Good game (3)
25%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
17%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
8%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
8%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final match Game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
21%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
21%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend duckdeok vs. TLO Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On September 05 2013 01:30 Nebuchad wrote: Finale paid for his trip to Ro16 last season? That's the kind of things that should be known to adequately hype people :/
blizzard only pays the travel cost in europe. if you have to fligh from KR or somewhere else you have to pay for the flight. (no idea if blizzard gives them some money though)
On September 05 2013 01:30 Nebuchad wrote: Finale paid for his trip to Ro16 last season? That's the kind of things that should be known to adequately hype people :/
blizzard only pays the travel cost in europe. if you have to fligh from KR or somewhere else you have to pay for the flight. (no idea if blizzard gives them some money though)
Yeah but I had assumed (maybe foolishly?) that MVP paid for his travel.
Meh, macro game failed? Stick to the what you know best, a 2 base son! Soo boring and predictable, I was more surpised when I saw 3rd protoss base in game 1.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
33%
★★★ - Good game (1)
11%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
11%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend duckdeok vs. TLO Game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On September 05 2013 01:35 Roman666 wrote: Meh, macro game failed? Stick to the what you know best, a 2 base son! Soo boring and predictable, I was more surpised when I saw 3rd protoss base in game 1.
Good thing that you can keep the diversity going by making this unbelievably original TL post.
On September 05 2013 01:35 Vega62a wrote: TLO straight up dead after that. I don't think you can defend a 4-gate zealot without roaches being out when the first attack hits.
Standard 4gate pressure, in WoL a spine was always super helpful
On September 05 2013 01:35 Roman666 wrote: Meh, macro game failed? Stick to the what you know best, a 2 base son! Soo boring and predictable, I was more surpised when I saw 3rd protoss base in game 1.
Good thing that you can keep the diversity going by making this unbelievably original TL post.
On September 05 2013 01:35 Roman666 wrote: Meh, macro game failed? Stick to the what you know best, a 2 base son! Soo boring and predictable, I was more surpised when I saw 3rd protoss base in game 1.
Good thing that you can keep the diversity going by making this unbelievably original TL post.
Oh, did I hurt your feelings somehow by stating the truth?
On September 05 2013 01:35 Roman666 wrote: Meh, macro game failed? Stick to the what you know best, a 2 base son! Soo boring and predictable, I was more surpised when I saw 3rd protoss base in game 1.
Not his fault when TLO fails pretty hard against a very common and known pressure timing...
On September 05 2013 01:35 Roman666 wrote: Meh, macro game failed? Stick to the what you know best, a 2 base son! Soo boring and predictable, I was more surpised when I saw 3rd protoss base in game 1.
One statement here is correct:
1) Macro is the only skillful way to play 2) Your comment is stupid
On September 05 2013 01:35 Roman666 wrote: Meh, macro game failed? Stick to the what you know best, a 2 base son! Soo boring and predictable, I was more surpised when I saw 3rd protoss base in game 1.
Not his fault when TLO fails pretty hard against a very common and known pressure timing...
It's a complete dice roll, though. It's pretty hard to scout reliably, and if not scouted, it is pretty guaranteed to do critical damage.
On September 05 2013 01:35 Roman666 wrote: Meh, macro game failed? Stick to the what you know best, a 2 base son! Soo boring and predictable, I was more surpised when I saw 3rd protoss base in game 1.
Good thing that you can keep the diversity going by making this unbelievably original TL post.
Oh, did I hurt your feelings somehow by stating the truth?
No idea how you saw that as "hurting his feelings". He was also stating the truth, mind.
On September 05 2013 01:35 Roman666 wrote: Meh, macro game failed? Stick to the what you know best, a 2 base son! Soo boring and predictable, I was more surpised when I saw 3rd protoss base in game 1.
Good thing that you can keep the diversity going by making this unbelievably original TL post.
Oh, did I hurt your feelings somehow by stating the truth?
No idea how you saw that as "hurting his feelings". He was also stating the truth, mind.
Yeah by going personal. I think I am just damn frustrated at the current state of the game.
On September 05 2013 01:35 Roman666 wrote: Meh, macro game failed? Stick to the what you know best, a 2 base son! Soo boring and predictable, I was more surpised when I saw 3rd protoss base in game 1.
One statement here is correct:
1) Macro is the only skillful way to play 2) Your comment is stupid
On September 05 2013 01:35 Roman666 wrote: Meh, macro game failed? Stick to the what you know best, a 2 base son! Soo boring and predictable, I was more surpised when I saw 3rd protoss base in game 1.
Good thing that you can keep the diversity going by making this unbelievably original TL post.
Oh, did I hurt your feelings somehow by stating the truth?
No idea how you saw that as "hurting his feelings". He was also stating the truth, mind.
Yeah by going personal. I think I am just damn frustrated at the current state of the game.
The state in which Zerg won the last 3 ZvP in WCS, and TLO could bring it to 4 in a row?
On September 05 2013 01:35 Roman666 wrote: Meh, macro game failed? Stick to the what you know best, a 2 base son! Soo boring and predictable, I was more surpised when I saw 3rd protoss base in game 1.
Not his fault when TLO fails pretty hard against a very common and known pressure timing...
It's a complete dice roll, though. It's pretty hard to scout reliably, and if not scouted, it is pretty guaranteed to do critical damage.
he was in duckducks base and saw the gateway expand, and even pressured the front pylon at the natural/saw gasses earlier - he had all the info.
On September 05 2013 01:35 Roman666 wrote: Meh, macro game failed? Stick to the what you know best, a 2 base son! Soo boring and predictable, I was more surpised when I saw 3rd protoss base in game 1.
Good thing that you can keep the diversity going by making this unbelievably original TL post.
Oh, did I hurt your feelings somehow by stating the truth?
No idea how you saw that as "hurting his feelings". He was also stating the truth, mind.
Yeah by going personal. I think I am just damn frustrated at the current state of the game.
The state in which Zerg won the last 3 ZvP in WCS, and TLO could bring it to 4 in a row?
Its really not about balance, its about how the game is played.
On September 05 2013 01:35 Roman666 wrote: Meh, macro game failed? Stick to the what you know best, a 2 base son! Soo boring and predictable, I was more surpised when I saw 3rd protoss base in game 1.
Good thing that you can keep the diversity going by making this unbelievably original TL post.
Oh, did I hurt your feelings somehow by stating the truth?
No idea how you saw that as "hurting his feelings". He was also stating the truth, mind.
Yeah by going personal. I think I am just damn frustrated at the current state of the game.
The state in which Zerg won the last 3 ZvP in WCS, and TLO could bring it to 4 in a row?
it is not about winning he complains, i guess i actually love PvZ but there are too many 2base allins in my opinion
Wow, this is very similar to the first game: TLO destroys the 3rd, Duckdeok goes for the counter allin and nearly breaks TLO, but TLO gets out a new tech just in time... But its far from over yet, now TLO needs to find an answer for the collosus
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
33%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
11%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
6%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
18 total votes
Your vote: Recommend duckdeok vs. TLO Game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On September 05 2013 01:47 Asterion wrote: Wow, this is very similar to the first game: TLO destroys the 3rd, Duckdeok goes for the counter allin and nearly breaks TLO, but TLO gets out a new tech just in time... But its far from over yet, now TLO needs to find an answer for the collosus
no it was not as similar as you make it out to be, duckduck went for the extremely fast and greedy 3rd here - though it got cancelled and not killed and in response he attacked while TLO pressured and droned behind.
On September 05 2013 01:50 Jampackedeon wrote: Ah god damn..... timing attacks like that make me want to vomit. One missed pylon and TLO gets obliterated.
Good luck to him in the losers bracket!
it was not just the one missed pylon... behind all the pressure he went for a greedy 4th and that's why he was also relatively low on units when duckducks first attack hit...
On September 05 2013 01:50 Maasked wrote: I wish that was duckdeok just did worked on ladder.. But it doesnt T_T
Actually it does at diamond, I do a variation of this about every game and it's reaaaaally easy (mostly because diamond zergs scout really poorly for some reason)
On September 05 2013 01:50 manniefresh wrote: need Happy to win so TLO won't have to play a terran in the loser's match...
Happy should take 1st place in group unless Artosis comes in or SaSe goes full duckdeok (as in takes really greedy 3rds, you are not going to kill Happy with all-in anytime soon :D).
On September 05 2013 01:50 Jampackedeon wrote: Ah god damn..... timing attacks like that make me want to vomit. One missed pylon and TLO gets obliterated.
Good luck to him in the losers bracket!
Ah, I can tell you whats happening from here: TLO wont make it out of this group, most Zergs will not make it out of their group, we will have a 4 Terran 4 Toss Ro8 and a full Korean Blizzcon with maybe 1 single Zerg in it.
On September 05 2013 01:50 Jampackedeon wrote: Ah god damn..... timing attacks like that make me want to vomit. One missed pylon and TLO gets obliterated.
Good luck to him in the losers bracket!
Ah, I can tell you whats happening from here: TLO wont make it out of this group, most Zergs will not make it out of their group, we will have a 4 Terran 4 Toss Ro8 and a full Korean Blizzcon with maybe 1 single Zerg in it.
On September 05 2013 01:50 Jampackedeon wrote: Ah god damn..... timing attacks like that make me want to vomit. One missed pylon and TLO gets obliterated.
Good luck to him in the losers bracket!
Ah, I can tell you whats happening from here: TLO wont make it out of this group, most Zergs will not make it out of their group, we will have a 4 Terran 4 Toss Ro8 and a full Korean Blizzcon with maybe 1 single Zerg in it.
On September 05 2013 01:50 Jampackedeon wrote: Ah god damn..... timing attacks like that make me want to vomit. One missed pylon and TLO gets obliterated.
Good luck to him in the losers bracket!
Ah, I can tell you whats happening from here: TLO wont make it out of this group, most Zergs will not make it out of their group, we will have a 4 Terran 4 Toss Ro8 and a full Korean Blizzcon with maybe 1 single Zerg in it.
/o\
Damn it must have been so tough for you zergs, having to sit through three consecutive groups of zergs not losing before you can start whining again Oo
On September 05 2013 01:50 Jampackedeon wrote: Ah god damn..... timing attacks like that make me want to vomit. One missed pylon and TLO gets obliterated.
Good luck to him in the losers bracket!
Ah, I can tell you whats happening from here: TLO wont make it out of this group, most Zergs will not make it out of their group, we will have a 4 Terran 4 Toss Ro8 and a full Korean Blizzcon with maybe 1 single Zerg in it.
On September 05 2013 01:50 Jampackedeon wrote: Ah god damn..... timing attacks like that make me want to vomit. One missed pylon and TLO gets obliterated.
Good luck to him in the losers bracket!
Ah, I can tell you whats happening from here: TLO wont make it out of this group, most Zergs will not make it out of their group, we will have a 4 Terran 4 Toss Ro8 and a full Korean Blizzcon with maybe 1 single Zerg in it.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
6%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
2%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
47 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Happy vs. SaSe Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On September 05 2013 01:56 ujonecro wrote: Protoss pro players...
No, Sase. This has shit to do with Rain, Hurricane or any other good Protoss - this was Sase's mistake, it has nothing to do with Protoss players in general ^^
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
6%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
2%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
47 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Happy vs. SaSe Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
6%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
2%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
47 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Happy vs. SaSe Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
6%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
2%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
47 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Happy vs. SaSe Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Legit poll
I hope TL.net staff will consider it for one of best games of 2013
On September 05 2013 01:56 ujonecro wrote: Protoss pro players...
No, Sase. This has shit to do with Rain, Hurricane or any other good Protoss - this was Sase's mistake, it has nothing to do with Protoss players in general ^^
To be fair a lot of Protoss rely on cheap blind gambles like this, but obviously not all of them, with Rain being the most legit player.
On September 05 2013 01:56 ujonecro wrote: Protoss pro players...
No, Sase. This has shit to do with Rain, Hurricane or any other good Protoss - this was Sase's mistake, it has nothing to do with Protoss players in general ^^
Well I just wanted to bring attention to what games we get from protoss players who really dictate their matchups. I am not saying we dont get crappy games from other races but this is too much. First duck now this. Also with all my hate against P I still cheer for Rain he is amazing.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
6%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
2%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
47 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Happy vs. SaSe Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Legit poll
I hope TL.net staff will consider it for one of best games of 2013
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
6%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
2%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
47 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Happy vs. SaSe Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Legit poll
I hope TL.net staff will consider it for one of best games of 2013
Pimpest play #1 2013: The Supply Depot
Okay, my bronze terran smurf is so stealing this supply depot placement /sarcasm
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
6%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
2%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
47 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Happy vs. SaSe Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Legit poll
I hope TL.net staff will consider it for one of best games of 2013
TL.net staff is´nt trustable anyway, they robbed mouz on best foreign team 2011 and they robbed MaNa on best foreign Protoss 2012.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
6%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
2%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
47 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Happy vs. SaSe Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Legit poll
I hope TL.net staff will consider it for one of best games of 2013
TL.net staff is´nt trustable anyway, they robded mouz on best foreign team 2011 and they robbed MaNa on best foreign Protoss 2012.
no foreign protoss in 2012 deserved best foreign protoss reward. In 2011 and 2013 too :D. mouz best foreign team 2011? mouz is kinda best foreign-only team 2011, not foreign team /sarcasm
On September 05 2013 01:56 ujonecro wrote: Protoss pro players...
No, Sase. This has shit to do with Rain, Hurricane or any other good Protoss - this was Sase's mistake, it has nothing to do with Protoss players in general ^^
Well I just wanted to bring attention to what games we get from protoss players who really dictate their matchups. I am not saying we dont get crappy games from other races but this is too much. First duck now this. Also with all my hate against P I still cheer for Rain he is amazing.
It's a bit harder for the protoss players to produce good games when the requirement for a good game played by protoss is: - no 2-base all-in, that's shitty. - no 3-base play, that's deathball boring. - no zealot warp-in, storm, voidrays or tempests, that's op. - no cheese, that's gay. - never attack, that's cheese.
On September 05 2013 01:56 ujonecro wrote: Protoss pro players...
No, Sase. This has shit to do with Rain, Hurricane or any other good Protoss - this was Sase's mistake, it has nothing to do with Protoss players in general ^^
Well I just wanted to bring attention to what games we get from protoss players who really dictate their matchups. I am not saying we dont get crappy games from other races but this is too much. First duck now this. Also with all my hate against P I still cheer for Rain he is amazing.
It's a bit harder for the protoss players to produce good games when the requirement for a good game played by protoss is: - no 2-base all-in, that's shitty. - no 3-base play, that's deathball boring. - no zealot warp-in, storm, voidrays or tempests, that's op. - no cheese, that's gay. - never attack, that's cheese.
On September 05 2013 01:58 ThomasjServo wrote: SaSe tweeted he was playing from Taiwan, is he still loosely contracted by Gamania or just playing independently in Taiwanese leagues?
I don't know about his competitive status there but I think that he is in Taiwan simply because he really likes to be there. Pretty cool of Fnatic to let him do his thing and support him like that (assuming that it would be more in their interest to have him located in Europe due to sponsors and stuff).
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
13%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
13%
24 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Happy vs. SaSe Game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Happy vs. SaSe Game 3?
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (6)
43%
★★★ - Good game (4)
29%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (2)
14%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
7%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
7%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Happy vs. SaSe Game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
What the fuck was that? Force fielding the ramp at the third for no reason, instead of attacking the natural, stacking up 4 observers, not bringing a probe/MSC with recall etc...
On September 05 2013 02:12 Roman666 wrote: Come on, you don't go for a base trade with terran with zealot heavy army.
He wasn't trying to base trade... Happy just ran away because he knows he automatically wins a base trade. There's nothing Sase can do except have some kind of foresight and being probes with him.
On September 05 2013 02:12 Roman666 wrote: Come on, you don't go for a base trade with terran with zealot heavy army.
You NEVER go for a base trade with terran.
Macsed did it perfectly (yeah he had the stargate build so he was able to win, but even without that he had perfect coverage and decisions to secure the "at-least draw".)
On September 05 2013 02:12 Roman666 wrote: Come on, you don't go for a base trade with terran with zealot heavy army.
He wasn't trying to base trade... Happy just ran away because he knows he automatically wins a base trade. There's nothing Sase can do except have some kind of foresight and being probes with him.
Wut? This kind of situation is very tricky if Protoss has a Dark shrine or simply prepares the base trade by warping some Zealots/HTs in the back of his base. Just because Terran can lift buildings doesn't mean they auto-win base trades scenarii...
On September 05 2013 02:12 Roman666 wrote: Come on, you don't go for a base trade with terran with zealot heavy army.
He wasn't trying to base trade... Happy just ran away because he knows he automatically wins a base trade. There's nothing Sase can do except have some kind of foresight and being probes with him.
On September 05 2013 02:11 SayTT wrote: sase is a way better player than happy
Swedish bias never fails to deliver.
Hey don't judge all of us because of one dude!
Sase is a good player for sure but he played really really bad these two games. Can't even blame it all on the lag either, Happy just rolled right over him.
On September 05 2013 02:12 Roman666 wrote: Come on, you don't go for a base trade with terran with zealot heavy army.
You NEVER go for a base trade with terran.
Macsed did it perfectly (yeah he had the stargate build so he was able to win, but even without that he had perfect coverage and decisions to secure the "at-least draw".)
I did not see the whole game, but i am sure that TaeJa surely made some serious mistake before going for base trade. You know, like some zerg going to 73 drones against 2-2-2. Also, at-least-draw is what should have happened anyway.
On September 05 2013 02:11 SayTT wrote: sase is a way better player than happy
Swedish bias never fails to deliver.
Hey don't judge all of us because of one dude!
Sase is a good player for sure but he played really really bad these two games. Can't even blame it all on the lag either, Happy just rolled right over him.
I didn't mean that all Swedish people are biased towards Swedish players. (; But those who are can really write mind-boggling comments.
On September 05 2013 02:12 Roman666 wrote: Come on, you don't go for a base trade with terran with zealot heavy army.
He wasn't trying to base trade... Happy just ran away because he knows he automatically wins a base trade. There's nothing Sase can do except have some kind of foresight and being probes with him.
Really??? Sase could have brought his MSC...
But you can also leave it at home to defend against small counterattack drops without having to recall the army. It was a really nice move by Happy and Sase should have had at least one probe. Not a balance whine chill guys. But the original post made it look like Sase "chose to base trade", when it was clearly Happys choice
On September 05 2013 02:29 TheDwf wrote: Losing 17 Probes to a simple Marine poke on HotS. Duckdeok just extended the limits of the realm of possibilities.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
36%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (2)
14%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
14%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' match Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On September 05 2013 02:29 TheDwf wrote: Losing 17 Probes to a simple Marine poke on HotS. Duckdeok just extended the limits of the realm of possibilities.
On September 05 2013 02:29 TheDwf wrote: Losing 17 Probes to a simple Marine poke on HotS. Duckdeok just extended the limits of the realm of possibilities.
On September 05 2013 02:29 TheDwf wrote: Losing 17 Probes to a simple Marine poke on HotS. Duckdeok just extended the limits of the realm of possibilities.
Lets not give happy any credit here for drawing out the nexus cannon then trapping 2 stalkers to set it up perfectly?
On September 05 2013 02:29 TheDwf wrote: Losing 17 Probes to a simple Marine poke on HotS. Duckdeok just extended the limits of the realm of possibilities.
On September 05 2013 02:29 TheDwf wrote: Losing 17 Probes to a simple Marine poke on HotS. Duckdeok just extended the limits of the realm of possibilities.
Lets not give happy any credit here for drawing out the nexus cannon then trapping 2 stalkers to set it up perfectly?
Its not taking anything away from him but so far his opponents have just been terrible. Forcing out the nexus canon is standard and Apollo even predicted it minutes ahead of time.
On September 05 2013 02:29 TheDwf wrote: Losing 17 Probes to a simple Marine poke on HotS. Duckdeok just extended the limits of the realm of possibilities.
Lets not give happy any credit here for drawing out the nexus cannon then trapping 2 stalkers to set it up perfectly?
You gotta know, TheDwF is in love with protoss!
And Happy looking really good, like his smart play even though my BroToss loses here.
On September 05 2013 02:29 TheDwf wrote: Losing 17 Probes to a simple Marine poke on HotS. Duckdeok just extended the limits of the realm of possibilities.
KESPAAAAAAAAA
But yeah, that was pretty atrocious
Sorry, didn't get the joke?
MVP is KeSPA now bro
Are they yet? Did I miss anything?
Not yet, but we all know its happening in one way or the other (purchased by Samsung, or join on their own for LoL Proleague)
On September 05 2013 02:29 TheDwf wrote: Losing 17 Probes to a simple Marine poke on HotS. Duckdeok just extended the limits of the realm of possibilities.
KESPAAAAAAAAA
But yeah, that was pretty atrocious
Sorry, didn't get the joke?
MVP is KeSPA now bro
Are they yet? Did I miss anything?
Everyone can be kespa now, they opened all the doors
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
10%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' match Game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners' match Game 3?
★★★ - Good game (3)
43%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
29%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
14%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
14%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' match Game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Shouldn't finale attack from the third, when he sees that Happy is ready for him on that ramp? Stardust did that several times on his stream when I watched it like 3 weeks ago
On September 05 2013 02:42 SpecialistSc wrote: game like this make me wonder... do pros really stream cheat? this is very suspicious
Indeed. It can't possibly be legit that a non-Korean beats a Korean. Everyone knows that is flat out impossible. Well luckily I assume duckduck is in Korea so we can always blame lag. (Although there is no way lag was the issue here).
Oh and WCS stream is delayed to prevent streamcheating.
On September 05 2013 02:42 SpecialistSc wrote: game like this make me wonder... do pros really stream cheat? this is very suspicious
Indeed. It can't possibly be legit that a non-Korean beats a Korean. Everyone knows that is flat out impossible. Well luckily I assume duckduck is in Korea so we can always blame lag. (Although there is no way lag was the issue here).
Oh and WCS stream is delayed to prevent streamcheating.
On September 05 2013 02:43 Nebuchad wrote: Shouldn't finale attack from the third, when he sees that Happy is ready for him on that ramp? Stardust did that several times on his stream when I watched it like 3 weeks ago
Yes, or resume Probe production, take dual gas at natural and build a Forge + a Council.
On September 05 2013 02:42 SpecialistSc wrote: game like this make me wonder... do pros really stream cheat? this is very suspicious
Indeed. It can't possibly be legit that a non-Korean beats a Korean. Everyone knows that is flat out impossible. Well luckily I assume duckduck is in Korea so we can always blame lag. (Although there is no way lag was the issue here).
Oh and WCS stream is delayed to prevent streamcheating.
I found it ! It's the food !
Damn foreigners poisoning the Koreans!
Or it is Blizzard. That's their tactic to give Koreans more incentive to play in WCS Korea, by poisoning their food if they don't. We are onto them!
On September 05 2013 02:43 Nebuchad wrote: Shouldn't finale attack from the third, when he sees that Happy is ready for him on that ramp? Stardust did that several times on his stream when I watched it like 3 weeks ago
Yes, or resume Probe production, take dual gas at natural and build a Forge + a Council.
And then get steamrolled by the better terran army :D
On September 05 2013 02:43 Nebuchad wrote: Shouldn't finale attack from the third, when he sees that Happy is ready for him on that ramp? Stardust did that several times on his stream when I watched it like 3 weeks ago
Yes, or resume Probe production, take dual gas at natural and build a Forge + a Council.
And then get steamrolled by the better terran army :D
On September 05 2013 02:43 Nebuchad wrote: Shouldn't finale attack from the third, when he sees that Happy is ready for him on that ramp? Stardust did that several times on his stream when I watched it like 3 weeks ago
Yes, or resume Probe production, take dual gas at natural and build a Forge + a Council.
And then get steamrolled by the better terran army :D
On September 05 2013 02:49 samurai80 wrote: OMG nooooo Duckdeok and Sase lost to Happy
With SaSe it was kind of a coinflip as no one knows his shape or how he plays, but last WCS finals duckducks PvT seemed really off - and Happy as we have seen is on top of his game now.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
40%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' match Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On September 05 2013 03:05 Keeemy wrote: SaSe is getting demolished in every game.
Well he would have had a big advantage in this one if he hadn't wasted 6 shots from his cannons on the eggs instead of focusing the hatch. It would have fallen no question.
On September 05 2013 03:11 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: Anyone cares to explain me what happened in happy's games ? They seem highly rated, I wanna know why. Thx bunnies~
You have to watch SaSe vs Happy Game 1. Simply one of the best games 2013.
On September 05 2013 03:14 Facultyadjutant wrote: There just IS something about Sase that spells: I am really fucking good and go least to ro8 every tournament
The hype.
On September 05 2013 03:14 Facultyadjutant wrote: Yet
It really amazes me that sase continues to show up in tournaments. Dude's play is so underhwelming and he really only looks good when he plays a medicocre opponent. Prob one of the most overrated players of all time.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8)
57%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (5)
36%
★★★ - Good game (1)
7%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' match Game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers' match Game 3?
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (5)
42%
★★★ - Good game (4)
33%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
17%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
8%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' match Game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
I disagree with the caster's idea that TLO is gonna beat Finale now that he's "ready for his playstyle", I think Finale will win again, and perhaps more convincingly than the first time. Curious who's right about this.
On September 05 2013 03:20 stratmatt wrote: It really amazes me that sase continues to show up in tournaments. Dude's play is so underhwelming and he really only looks good when he plays a medicocre opponent. Prob one of the most overrated players of all time.
He is in Taiwan, look at timezone and latncy issues
Guys, Opterown Dundee feeds a kitten to the crocodiles everytime you don't vote for a poll.
On September 05 2013 03:23 Lorning wrote:
Poll: Recommend Losers' match Game 2?
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8)
57%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (5)
36%
★★★ - Good game (1)
7%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' match Game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers' match Game 3?
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (5)
42%
★★★ - Good game (4)
33%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
17%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
8%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' match Game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On September 05 2013 03:33 stuchiu wrote: So fun fact: If Naniwa wants to get to Worlds, the best result for him is to have duckdeok beat TLO. With that in mind, who are you rooting for?
On September 05 2013 03:33 stuchiu wrote: So fun fact: If Naniwa wants to get to Worlds, the best result for him is to have duckdeok beat TLO. With that in mind, who are you rooting for?
Okay, I'll bite: no? TLO beating duck is way better for Naniwa^^
On September 05 2013 03:33 stuchiu wrote: So fun fact: If Naniwa wants to get to Worlds, the best result for him is to have duckdeok beat TLO. With that in mind, who are you rooting for?
Okay, I'll bite: no? TLO beating duck is way better for Naniwa^^
yeah, they're both at lower rank thatn nani, but TLO is too far to be a threat, unlike finale
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
36%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
9%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final match Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On September 05 2013 03:33 stuchiu wrote: So fun fact: If Naniwa wants to get to Worlds, the best result for him is to have duckdeok beat TLO. With that in mind, who are you rooting for?
Is it only me or is TLO in kind of a "slump" atm? I mean, its no shame to loose vs the EU champion, but after a good HSC run and an awesome Top 5 finish in Season 1, i feel as if TLO hasnt had any good games since then...
Seriously, i want TLO to win so baldy, but this is his own god damn fault.
Hes playing a guy who is known for playing super aggressive/cheesy because of lag or because its his stlye or whatever, and what does TLo do? He goes fucking as greedy as possible and dies to any kind of pressure. Like really what the fuck
Edit: and so much about "foreigner hope", with that kind of play you dont win a god damn game at Blizzcon, rather get another korean then and get some good games
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
29%
★★★ - Good game (2)
14%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
7%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final match Game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final match Game 3?
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
42%
★★★ - Good game (3)
25%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
17%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
8%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
8%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final match Game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On September 05 2013 03:50 KaneZ wrote: And there goes any interest in WCS and Blizzcon. See you next year.
People like you are so goddamn annoying.
I think it is a very common opinion. I actually think it is the most common opinion. Not that people write it but otherwise, especially if you look outside TL.
The Korean dominance is without parallel the biggest problem SC2 has.
actually grubby could make it to blizzcon, he has not a very hard group at wcs eu and he will be also competing in dh bucharest, but his chances at bucharest are very small, but he could do it. i mean he beat mvp
I am not a good player. At all. So this is a genuine question? Why do people not just play supersafe against deokduck? I mean you can be 95% certain that he will all in or attack very early. Especially in the online rounds, thats all he ever did in WCS EU. Are his all-ins so crisp that his opponents still just dont manage to defend?
On September 05 2013 03:53 buntuka wrote: I am not a good player. At all. So this is a genuine question? Why do people not just play supersafe against deokduck? I mean you can be 95% certain that he will all in or attack very early. Especially in the online rounds, thats all he ever did in WCS EU. Are his all-ins so crisp that his opponents still just dont manage to defend?
Probably because they fear of falling behind when duckduck plays standard. I dont understand it aswell, people go so overly greedy and very rarely play safe. In a final game i rather end up behing a bit behind than fucking dead.
On September 05 2013 03:54 Zenbrez wrote: I went to cook chicken and cut a tomato, what the hell happened in g2?
TLO decided to play as greedy as humanly possible, duckduck went 1 gate expo and killed him with 4 gate pressure
On September 05 2013 03:50 KaneZ wrote: And there goes any interest in WCS and Blizzcon. See you next year.
People like you are so goddamn annoying.
I think it is a very common opinion. I actually think it is the most common opinion. Not that people write it but otherwise, especially if you look outside TL.
Yeah I know. It's just annoying when people go full emo after their (foreign) favorites drop out.
People should appreciate the skilled players (in this case: Koreans) more and support them.
On September 05 2013 03:53 Undead1993 wrote: actually grubby could make it to blizzcon, he has not a very hard group at wcs eu and he will be also competing in dh bucharest, but his chances at bucharest are very small, but he could do it. i mean he beat mvp
He would have to get 900-1000 points to actually surpass naniwa who is out (others are still gaining points with him) which is like 2nd place or get 5th and subsequently get to the Ro8 in WCS S3 Finals, both of which are quite impossible. Also, DH points are for like top 8?
On September 05 2013 03:50 KaneZ wrote: And there goes any interest in WCS and Blizzcon. See you next year.
People like you are so goddamn annoying.
I think it is a very common opinion. I actually think it is the most common opinion. Not that people write it but otherwise, especially if you look outside TL.
Yeah I know. It's just annoying when people go full emo after their (foreign) favorites drop out.
People should appreciate the skilled players (in this case: Koreans) more and support them.
On September 05 2013 03:54 Zenbrez wrote: I went to cook chicken and cut a tomato, what the hell happened in g2?
Same thing as the last time they met on that map. DuckdeOK went for 2base 4gate, TLO didn't know how to defend.
Two base 4 gate is one of the oldest builds in the game. Surprised TLO doesnt know how to play against it.
Even more surprising since he scouted the gates when they were close to finishing. I think he got supplyblocked at that moment but i dont know why he didnt drop 2 or 3 Spines instead of 1...
Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation wins just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)
On September 05 2013 03:50 KaneZ wrote: And there goes any interest in WCS and Blizzcon. See you next year.
People like you are so goddamn annoying.
I think it is a very common opinion. I actually think it is the most common opinion. Not that people write it but otherwise, especially if you look outside TL.
The Korean dominance is without parallel the biggest problem SC2 has.
if by "problem" you mean "the best part about it," then i agree
Hey guys, don't be sad about TLO. With his recent form, he would have done very badly at Blizzcon. Now he can take the time to practice and maybe go to Korea. Obviously, his time in Europe is not helping him at all.
On September 05 2013 03:50 KaneZ wrote: And there goes any interest in WCS and Blizzcon. See you next year.
People like you are so goddamn annoying.
I think it is a very common opinion. I actually think it is the most common opinion. Not that people write it but otherwise, especially if you look outside TL.
The Korean dominance is without parallel the biggest problem SC2 has.
if by "problem" you mean "the best part about it," then i agree
That comment was pretty stupid. I dont even know where to start, so I actually just dont ^
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote: Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)
Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote: Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)
Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.
Yeah I known, but the problem is that they are crippling the scene in the process. It is not their fault, it just a consequence of their dominance + combined with their culture.
Amusingly it would probably benefit Korean pros to be less dominant x)
On September 05 2013 03:50 KaneZ wrote: And there goes any interest in WCS and Blizzcon. See you next year.
People like you are so goddamn annoying.
I think it is a very common opinion. I actually think it is the most common opinion. Not that people write it but otherwise, especially if you look outside TL.
The Korean dominance is without parallel the biggest problem SC2 has.
if by "problem" you mean "the best part about it," then i agree
That comment was pretty stupid. I dont even know where to start, so I actually just dont ^
On September 05 2013 03:50 KaneZ wrote: And there goes any interest in WCS and Blizzcon. See you next year.
People like you are so goddamn annoying.
I think it is a very common opinion. I actually think it is the most common opinion. Not that people write it but otherwise, especially if you look outside TL.
The Korean dominance is without parallel the biggest problem SC2 has.
Yup, I've also lost interest now even with the many great players (skill wise) that remain. I'll still watch but I feel like there has to be a better system for not watching the top 16 of EU be so scatterbrained.
On September 05 2013 03:50 KaneZ wrote: And there goes any interest in WCS and Blizzcon. See you next year.
People like you are so goddamn annoying.
I think it is a very common opinion. I actually think it is the most common opinion. Not that people write it but otherwise, especially if you look outside TL.
The Korean dominance is without parallel the biggest problem SC2 has.
if by "problem" you mean "the best part about it," then i agree
That comment was pretty stupid. I dont even know where to start, so I actually just dont ^
guess its dumb to like watching ggs
My comment means, that it is bad for any sport to be severely dominated by one country. Good games and Korea are irrelevant to that comment. Although I would say that Korean culture add a certain layer to the issue, we can talk about that if you want to ^.^
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote: Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)
Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.
Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players. Korean training havent helped Sortof at all. Not that much that we could see difference. He was doing best when he was still living in sweden. Same for Snute. And Naniwa has been always naniwa, sometimes good, sometimes awful.
On September 05 2013 03:53 buntuka wrote: I am not a good player. At all. So this is a genuine question? Why do people not just play supersafe against deokduck? I mean you can be 95% certain that he will all in or attack very early. Especially in the online rounds, thats all he ever did in WCS EU. Are his all-ins so crisp that his opponents still just dont manage to defend?
blah blah blah...he all ins, me better skill and me lose to all-ins. blah blah blah. Stop blaming all-ins. When you don't have the skill to win game, stop blaming others.
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote: Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)
Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.
Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players.
You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote: Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)
Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.
Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players.
You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train
next stop dota/league of legends
Oh, hows that?
There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea.
On September 05 2013 03:53 buntuka wrote: I am not a good player. At all. So this is a genuine question? Why do people not just play supersafe against deokduck? I mean you can be 95% certain that he will all in or attack very early. Especially in the online rounds, thats all he ever did in WCS EU. Are his all-ins so crisp that his opponents still just dont manage to defend?
blah blah blah...he all ins, me better skill and me lose to all-ins. blah blah blah. Stop blaming all-ins. When you don't have the skill to win game, stop blaming others.
? Hes not complaing that Duckduck can only all-in and win, hes just asking why people dont play safe vs duckduck because he is known to all-in/pressure a lot..
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote: Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)
Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.
Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players.
You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train
next stop dota/league of legends
Oh, hows that?
There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea.
No, we all know the vocal minority wants to see foreign vs. korea
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote: Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)
Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.
Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players.
You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train
next stop dota/league of legends
Oh, hows that?
There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea.
I'm saying the korean dominance is never going to change so you might as well pack your bags and hop on the next train to anesportwhereforeignerswinalot town.
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote: Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)
Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.
Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players.
You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train
next stop dota/league of legends
Oh, hows that?
There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea.
Cheer for likeable Koreans then, what is the problem?
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote: Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)
Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.
Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players.
You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train
next stop dota/league of legends
Oh, hows that?
There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea.
I'm saying the korean dominance is never going to change so you might as well pack your bags and hop on the next train to anesportwhereforeignerswinalot town.
As in all other esport games ever minus BW, SC2? ^^
You know the problem is that a large chunk of the community will and already have done exactly what you said in that post.
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote: Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)
Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.
Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players.
You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train
next stop dota/league of legends
Oh, hows that?
There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea.
I'm saying the korean dominance is never going to change so you might as well pack your bags and hop on the next train to anesportwhereforeignerswinalot town.
As in all other esport games ever minus BW, SC2? ^^
You know the problem is that a large chunk of the community will and already have done exactly what you said in that post.
I know they have, I just think It's useless to whine about it on the forums at this point.
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote: Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)
Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.
Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players.
You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train
next stop dota/league of legends
Oh, hows that?
There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea.
I'm saying the korean dominance is never going to change so you might as well pack your bags and hop on the next train to anesportwhereforeignerswinalot town.
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote: Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)
Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.
Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players.
You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train
next stop dota/league of legends
Oh, hows that?
There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea.
Cheer for likeable Koreans then, what is the problem?
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote: Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)
Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.
Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players.
You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train
next stop dota/league of legends
Oh, hows that?
There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea.
I'm saying the korean dominance is never going to change so you might as well pack your bags and hop on the next train to anesportwhereforeignerswinalot town.
As in all other esport games ever minus BW, SC2? ^^
You know the problem is that a large chunk of the community will and already have done exactly what you said in that post.
I know they have, I just think It's useless to whine about it on the forums at this point.
Well you have a point there. Although if it would contribute to region lock it is not pointless, I guess it doesnt though, the decrease in viewer numbers are what is really speaking on this matter.
Anyway I think some residency based region lock is necessary if SC2 wants to continue to be among the big boys of esport.
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote: Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)
Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.
Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players.
You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train
next stop dota/league of legends
Oh, hows that?
There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea.
Cheer for likeable Koreans then, what is the problem?
Who is?
Too many to count, if you had been watching the GSL for the past 3 years like a lot of us you would be able to identify with the old legends easily. I'll cheer for Mvp over anyone else including all foreigners and I'm not Korean.
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote: Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)
Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.
Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players.
You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train
next stop dota/league of legends
Oh, hows that?
There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea.
I'm saying the korean dominance is never going to change so you might as well pack your bags and hop on the next train to anesportwhereforeignerswinalot town.
Why foreigners need to win "alot"?
Not sure why the " alot " when I was using the sentence as one word because It's supposed to be the name of the town, It's part of the joke!
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote: Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)
Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.
Yeah I known, but the problem is that they are crippling the scene in the process. It is not their fault, it just a consequence of their dominance + combined with their culture.
Amusingly it would probably benefit Korean pros to be less dominant x)
What an amusing way of wording this. I like how foreigners losing and "crippling the scene" is the fault of everyone but foreigners. You say it's not their fault but you say it's because of Korean dominance and culture (aka..it's their fault), instead of the fault of the lack of dominance and culture of the foreigners.
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote: Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)
Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.
Yeah I known, but the problem is that they are crippling the scene in the process. It is not their fault, it just a consequence of their dominance + combined with their culture.
Amusingly it would probably benefit Korean pros to be less dominant x)
What an amusing way of wording this. I like how foreigners losing and "crippling the scene" is the fault of everyone but foreigners. You say it's not their fault but you say it's because of Korean dominance and culture (aka..it's their fault), instead of the fault of the lack of dominance and culture of the foreigners.
I said it is a consequence of their dominance. Why it occurs is irrelevant for the effect it causes.
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote: Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...
I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)
Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.
Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players.
You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train
next stop dota/league of legends
Oh, hows that?
There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea.
Cheer for likeable Koreans then, what is the problem?
On September 05 2013 03:53 Undead1993 wrote: actually grubby could make it to blizzcon, he has not a very hard group at wcs eu
I voted it the group of death and I remember many people agreeing^^
Still I agree with Lucifron's current TvP Grubby has a good shot
well genius plays from kr and it's pvp and starbuck is not a hard opponent either, i think grubby might have it and i don't think taht's the group of death lol
Not surprised by SaSe's play today, would have hoped for a little more, but his confidence when he plays with lag doesn't really help him. We will probably not see him in WCS Europe next season anyway. I think he will try in NA or do Code A qualifier the whole next year because he then knew he had a shot to play his a game while being in Taiwan. Btw congrats to Happy and the duck.
On September 05 2013 03:53 Undead1993 wrote: actually grubby could make it to blizzcon, he has not a very hard group at wcs eu
I voted it the group of death and I remember many people agreeing^^
Still I agree with Lucifron's current TvP Grubby has a good shot
well genius plays from kr and it's pvp and starbuck is not a hard opponent either, i think grubby might have it and i don't think taht's the group of death lol
Either you're underestimating Starbuck or I'm overestimating him. He has impressed me the last few games I've seen.
Ofc I'm not trying to say it's like Flash Inno Life Parting or something, I just thought it was the hardest group in the Ro32. Although I will admit the reason I didn't think group A was the group of death was because I didn't think Targa was much of a threat, so I should probably reconsider =)
On September 05 2013 03:53 buntuka wrote: I am not a good player. At all. So this is a genuine question? Why do people not just play supersafe against deokduck? I mean you can be 95% certain that he will all in or attack very early. Especially in the online rounds, thats all he ever did in WCS EU. Are his all-ins so crisp that his opponents still just dont manage to defend?
blah blah blah...he all ins, me better skill and me lose to all-ins. blah blah blah. Stop blaming all-ins. When you don't have the skill to win game, stop blaming others.
I'm not judging the duck here and I don't dislike all ins either. The game would be boring without them. I just fail to understand why so many pro aren't able to defend against them, given that they should be able to predict them coming with extreme certainty. So blah blah yourself.
On September 05 2013 03:53 buntuka wrote: I am not a good player. At all. So this is a genuine question? Why do people not just play supersafe against deokduck? I mean you can be 95% certain that he will all in or attack very early. Especially in the online rounds, thats all he ever did in WCS EU. Are his all-ins so crisp that his opponents still just dont manage to defend?
blah blah blah...he all ins, me better skill and me lose to all-ins. blah blah blah. Stop blaming all-ins. When you don't have the skill to win game, stop blaming others.
I'm not judging the duck here and I don't dislike all ins either. The game would be boring without them. I just fail to understand why so many pro aren't able to defend against them, given that they should be able to predict them coming with extreme certainty. So blah blah yourself.
Just like Happy did when he predicted an all-in, bunkered up, and won. It's like magic!
EPT
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