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megapants
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1314 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 19:05:47
September 04 2013 19:05 GMT
#541
On September 05 2013 03:51 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 03:50 Keeemy wrote:
On September 05 2013 03:50 KaneZ wrote:
And there goes any interest in WCS and Blizzcon. See you next year.

People like you are so goddamn annoying.


I think it is a very common opinion. I actually think it is the most common opinion. Not that people write it but otherwise, especially if you look outside TL.

The Korean dominance is without parallel the biggest problem SC2 has.

if by "problem" you mean "the best part about it," then i agree
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
September 04 2013 19:05 GMT
#542
Hey guys, don't be sad about TLO. With his recent form, he would have done very badly at Blizzcon. Now he can take the time to practice and maybe go to Korea. Obviously, his time in Europe is not helping him at all.
Don't mind me
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
September 04 2013 19:05 GMT
#543
On September 05 2013 04:05 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 04:05 WigglingSquid wrote:
Shellshock's Banhammer: + 100 weapon speed.

It wasn't even me D:

then it is a teambuff
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 19:07:27
September 04 2013 19:07 GMT
#544
On September 05 2013 04:05 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 04:05 WigglingSquid wrote:
Shellshock's Banhammer: + 100 weapon speed.

It wasn't even me D:

Oh, sorry. I'll fix that.

Shellshock's Banhammer:
+ 100 weapon speed
+ 50 weapon speed aura (affects whole party)
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
September 04 2013 19:07 GMT
#545
Is it me or this group was unpopular ? Stream views seemed low and thread has only 28 pages.
Dunno why but it kinda felt like it.
RIP MKP
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 19:08:31
September 04 2013 19:07 GMT
#546
On September 05 2013 04:05 megapants wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 03:51 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On September 05 2013 03:50 Keeemy wrote:
On September 05 2013 03:50 KaneZ wrote:
And there goes any interest in WCS and Blizzcon. See you next year.

People like you are so goddamn annoying.


I think it is a very common opinion. I actually think it is the most common opinion. Not that people write it but otherwise, especially if you look outside TL.

The Korean dominance is without parallel the biggest problem SC2 has.

if by "problem" you mean "the best part about it," then i agree


That comment was pretty stupid. I dont even know where to start, so I actually just dont ^
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 04 2013 19:07 GMT
#547
On September 05 2013 04:05 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 04:05 WigglingSquid wrote:
Shellshock's Banhammer: + 100 weapon speed.

It wasn't even me D:

So bad at your job wow.
Glorious SEA doto
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
September 04 2013 19:08 GMT
#548
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...

I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)


Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.
Don't mind me
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 19:11:10
September 04 2013 19:09 GMT
#549
On September 05 2013 04:08 ptbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...

I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)


Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.


Yeah I known, but the problem is that they are crippling the scene in the process. It is not their fault, it just a consequence of their dominance + combined with their culture.

Amusingly it would probably benefit Korean pros to be less dominant x)
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
megapants
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1314 Posts
September 04 2013 19:10 GMT
#550
On September 05 2013 04:07 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 04:05 megapants wrote:
On September 05 2013 03:51 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On September 05 2013 03:50 Keeemy wrote:
On September 05 2013 03:50 KaneZ wrote:
And there goes any interest in WCS and Blizzcon. See you next year.

People like you are so goddamn annoying.


I think it is a very common opinion. I actually think it is the most common opinion. Not that people write it but otherwise, especially if you look outside TL.

The Korean dominance is without parallel the biggest problem SC2 has.

if by "problem" you mean "the best part about it," then i agree


That comment was pretty stupid. I dont even know where to start, so I actually just dont ^

guess its dumb to like watching ggs
lantz
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States762 Posts
September 04 2013 19:11 GMT
#551
On September 05 2013 04:05 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 04:05 WigglingSquid wrote:
Shellshock's Banhammer: + 100 weapon speed.

It wasn't even me D:


Don't be modest. We all know how fast you are
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
September 04 2013 19:12 GMT
#552
On September 05 2013 04:07 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 04:05 Shellshock wrote:
On September 05 2013 04:05 WigglingSquid wrote:
Shellshock's Banhammer: + 100 weapon speed.

It wasn't even me D:

So bad at your job wow.


Heyheyhey, it's his first day at the job. Give the guy some slack, will you.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
kimchikid
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden162 Posts
September 04 2013 19:12 GMT
#553
On September 05 2013 00:51 KaneZ wrote:
Still celebrating NaNiwa losing.

Gogogo TLO. I don't care at all about any other group or any other player besides TLO now. Just go and make Blizzcon happen!


You got this because of what you wrote about Naniwa. Karma!
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
September 04 2013 19:12 GMT
#554
On September 05 2013 03:51 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 03:50 Keeemy wrote:
On September 05 2013 03:50 KaneZ wrote:
And there goes any interest in WCS and Blizzcon. See you next year.

People like you are so goddamn annoying.


I think it is a very common opinion. I actually think it is the most common opinion. Not that people write it but otherwise, especially if you look outside TL.

The Korean dominance is without parallel the biggest problem SC2 has.


Yup, I've also lost interest now even with the many great players (skill wise) that remain. I'll still watch but I feel like there has to be a better system for not watching the top 16 of EU be so scatterbrained.

Good luck to the remaining foreigners in EU/NA.
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
September 04 2013 19:13 GMT
#555
On September 05 2013 04:10 megapants wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 04:07 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On September 05 2013 04:05 megapants wrote:
On September 05 2013 03:51 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On September 05 2013 03:50 Keeemy wrote:
On September 05 2013 03:50 KaneZ wrote:
And there goes any interest in WCS and Blizzcon. See you next year.

People like you are so goddamn annoying.


I think it is a very common opinion. I actually think it is the most common opinion. Not that people write it but otherwise, especially if you look outside TL.

The Korean dominance is without parallel the biggest problem SC2 has.

if by "problem" you mean "the best part about it," then i agree


That comment was pretty stupid. I dont even know where to start, so I actually just dont ^

guess its dumb to like watching ggs


My comment means, that it is bad for any sport to be severely dominated by one country. Good games and Korea are irrelevant to that comment. Although I would say that Korean culture add a certain layer to the issue, we can talk about that if you want to ^.^
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 04 2013 19:14 GMT
#556
god damn it sase
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 19:17:44
September 04 2013 19:15 GMT
#557
On September 05 2013 04:08 ptbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...

I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)


Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.

Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players.
Korean training havent helped Sortof at all. Not that much that we could see difference. He was doing best when he was still living in sweden. Same for Snute. And Naniwa has been always naniwa, sometimes good, sometimes awful.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
September 04 2013 19:15 GMT
#558
On September 05 2013 03:53 buntuka wrote:
I am not a good player. At all. So this is a genuine question? Why do people not just play supersafe against deokduck? I mean you can be 95% certain that he will all in or attack very early. Especially in the online rounds, thats all he ever did in WCS EU. Are his all-ins so crisp that his opponents still just dont manage to defend?

blah blah blah...he all ins, me better skill and me lose to all-ins. blah blah blah. Stop blaming all-ins. When you don't have the skill to win game, stop blaming others.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 04 2013 19:17 GMT
#559
On September 05 2013 04:15 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 04:08 ptbl wrote:
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...

I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)


Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.

Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players.


You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train

next stop dota/league of legends
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 19:20:09
September 04 2013 19:18 GMT
#560
On September 05 2013 04:17 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 04:15 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On September 05 2013 04:08 ptbl wrote:
On September 05 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ah well this was really boring. 16 Koreans at Blizzcon...

I will probably watch it if I just sit at home, but if my gf wants to do something or whatever it wont bother me much to miss it. I almost hope Innovation win just so I can watch him go complete cyborg mode in the winning ceremony x)


Just goes to show the foreigners lack of training. Out of all the foreigners we only have 4 in Korea atm: Naniwa, Snute, Sortof, and Scarlett. Just goes to show foreigners lack of dedication of becoming the best in the game. The WCS point board reflects reality. Koreans train harder than foreigners.

Even tho there is nothing to see for me if there isn't foreign players.


You're like 3 years late to board the " wahhh foreigners can't win I'm out " train

next stop dota/league of legends

Oh, hows that?

There is nothing to cheer for if there arent who to cheer for. Simply. And we all know most of people want to see foreign vs korea (or foreignvsforeign) instead of koreavskorea.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
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