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On August 30 2013 20:20 Ammanas wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 20:17 painkilla wrote:On August 30 2013 20:02 Die4Ever wrote:On August 30 2013 19:52 vthree wrote:On August 30 2013 19:48 i.of.the.storm wrote:On August 30 2013 19:46 stuchiu wrote:
0-3 always beats 1-1. Yeah, though MSC was pretty lame saving nexuses multiple times for free, if he was not so far behind on upgrades he should have won some of those engagements. He even got off a lot of good EMPs off but without the upgrades you can't compete. I think that is the problem with PvT now (ZvT has its own issues). The MSC is just allowing so much freedom for protoss. They can be aggressive with their army. They can also be defensive and just tech (fast upgrades AND AoE tech). This was very risky in WoL, but with MSC, they are safe from almost all pressure. I think SuperNova would have won that game if he pulled SCVs to attacked the natural. idk about PvT balance, if you saw Taeja vs Rain, dat stomping lol So Rain losing one series means PvT is fine ? It's funny though, I as a protoss player always thought PvT is actually T favourited and don't understand the complaining from the terran players. like if there was any, even the smallest, buff to bio units, T would just roll over the P...
I think any buff to bio units would be plain stupid, because they are already way to cost efficiant (for low tech units). Normally low tech units should be the meat of the army and the high tech units should provide cost efficiancy (this is how Zerg and Protoss work btw.). But Terran in that regard is a design blunder, because the high tech units are not cost efficiant at all against Zerg and Protoss (with the exception of ghosts against Protoss - and they are not even that high tech), even more they are pretty much useless. So we end up having those (too) strong low tier units with their massive single target dmg.
No sane person would advice blizzard to buff bio. I would love to see a small stimpack nerf in favor of making all the other units viable.
look at that list of useless units:
Hellbats - TvT only
Siege Tanks - very rarely used in TvZ, pretty much TvT only
Banshee - TvT only
Raven - TvT only
Battle Cruiser - TvT only
The only Zerg AND Protoss unit I can think of being only used in mirrors or not at all is the Carrier (and this only stayed in the game, because of the fluff)
The only deviation we see in terran play takes place in the first minutes of the game. once we reach midgame it allways ends up the exact same unit compositions, in both non mirror matchups. And this is not a balance issue, but a big design flaw.
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Austria24417 Posts
On August 30 2013 20:28 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 20:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 30 2013 20:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 30 2013 20:00 Emzeeshady wrote:On August 30 2013 19:53 lichter wrote:
Bbyong is my pick for worst player in Code S but will somehow make it out of his groups this season So hes the Supernova of last season? I can buy that even though Bbyong is better. User was banned for this post. Why was he banned? xD I mean he's really a pain in the ass tonight, but I don't see how this was ban worthy. Posting history. I've been through his recent history right now (about 20 last posts), I cannot see anything even temp ban worthy. I assume there is some older history with this guy or there is somthing I don't understand. I have been banned twice in the past and I know well why it happened but not in this guy's case.
He got banned for a few weeks for bashing Supernova last time which means he'd already gathered a bunch of previous bans, frequent warnings, etc. The ban note said he'd get one last chance. Now he came back and did the exact same thing again.
Previous bans and warnings include frequent balance whine and player bashing, at least that's what I remember from LRs. He didn't seem like a bad person or anything... just rather careless with his posts.
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Told you guys not to count out Dear.
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On August 30 2013 20:28 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 20:26 lichter wrote:On August 30 2013 20:24 opterown wrote:On August 30 2013 20:20 Ammanas wrote:On August 30 2013 20:17 painkilla wrote:On August 30 2013 20:02 Die4Ever wrote:On August 30 2013 19:52 vthree wrote:On August 30 2013 19:48 i.of.the.storm wrote:On August 30 2013 19:46 stuchiu wrote:
0-3 always beats 1-1. Yeah, though MSC was pretty lame saving nexuses multiple times for free, if he was not so far behind on upgrades he should have won some of those engagements. He even got off a lot of good EMPs off but without the upgrades you can't compete. I think that is the problem with PvT now (ZvT has its own issues). The MSC is just allowing so much freedom for protoss. They can be aggressive with their army. They can also be defensive and just tech (fast upgrades AND AoE tech). This was very risky in WoL, but with MSC, they are safe from almost all pressure. I think SuperNova would have won that game if he pulled SCVs to attacked the natural. idk about PvT balance, if you saw Taeja vs Rain, dat stomping lol So Rain losing one series means PvT is fine ? It's funny though, I as a protoss player always thought PvT is actually T favourited and don't understand the complaining from the terran players. like if there was any, even the smallest, buff to bio units, T would just roll over the P... honestly that explains a lot, people will be biased I haven't played SC2 much in almost 3 years so I am the most unbiased person on TL i haven't played sc2 ever hah (ladder) i've played a few games of like nexus wars + campaign but that's about it rofl Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 20:28 samurai80 wrote:On August 30 2013 20:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 30 2013 20:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 30 2013 20:00 Emzeeshady wrote:On August 30 2013 19:53 lichter wrote:
Bbyong is my pick for worst player in Code S but will somehow make it out of his groups this season So hes the Supernova of last season? I can buy that even though Bbyong is better. User was banned for this post. Why was he banned? xD I mean he's really a pain in the ass tonight, but I don't see how this was ban worthy. Posting history. I've been through his recent history right now (about 20 last posts), I cannot see anything even temp ban worthy. I assume there is some older history with this guy or there is somthing I don't understand. I have been banned twice in the past and I know well why it happened but not in this guy's case. Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 20:18 opterown wrote:On August 30 2013 20:14 GolemMadness wrote:On August 30 2013 20:08 sAsImre wrote:On August 30 2013 20:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 30 2013 20:00 Emzeeshady wrote:On August 30 2013 19:53 lichter wrote:
Bbyong is my pick for worst player in Code S but will somehow make it out of his groups this season So hes the Supernova of last season? I can buy that even though Bbyong is better. User was banned for this post. Why was he banned? xD I mean he's really a pain in the ass tonight, but I don't see how this was ban worthy. look at his post/mod history. You can't see someone's mod history, can you? here is a rough list of his moderations
Maybe it's my english skills but I don't understand most of the moderations. But I guess I shouldn't talk about that here anymore. TBH I'm getting frightened to post anything right now.
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On August 30 2013 20:36 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 20:28 samurai80 wrote:On August 30 2013 20:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 30 2013 20:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 30 2013 20:00 Emzeeshady wrote:On August 30 2013 19:53 lichter wrote:
Bbyong is my pick for worst player in Code S but will somehow make it out of his groups this season So hes the Supernova of last season? I can buy that even though Bbyong is better. User was banned for this post. Why was he banned? xD I mean he's really a pain in the ass tonight, but I don't see how this was ban worthy. Posting history. I've been through his recent history right now (about 20 last posts), I cannot see anything even temp ban worthy. I assume there is some older history with this guy or there is somthing I don't understand. I have been banned twice in the past and I know well why it happened but not in this guy's case. He got banned for a few weeks for bashing Supernova last time which means he'd already gathered a bunch of previous bans, frequent warnings, etc. The ban note said he'd get one last chance. Now he came back and did the exact same thing again. Previous bans and warnings include frequent balance whine and player bashing, at least that's what I remember from LRs. He didn't seem like a bad person or anything... just rather careless with his posts.
Yeah I felt that his average posts were slightly negative/bashing/criticizing, but they were not really like going over a certain limit of tolerance. Anyway, sorry for this, I was just wondering.
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On August 30 2013 20:40 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 20:28 opterown wrote:On August 30 2013 20:26 lichter wrote:On August 30 2013 20:24 opterown wrote:On August 30 2013 20:20 Ammanas wrote:On August 30 2013 20:17 painkilla wrote:On August 30 2013 20:02 Die4Ever wrote:On August 30 2013 19:52 vthree wrote:On August 30 2013 19:48 i.of.the.storm wrote:On August 30 2013 19:46 stuchiu wrote:
0-3 always beats 1-1. Yeah, though MSC was pretty lame saving nexuses multiple times for free, if he was not so far behind on upgrades he should have won some of those engagements. He even got off a lot of good EMPs off but without the upgrades you can't compete. I think that is the problem with PvT now (ZvT has its own issues). The MSC is just allowing so much freedom for protoss. They can be aggressive with their army. They can also be defensive and just tech (fast upgrades AND AoE tech). This was very risky in WoL, but with MSC, they are safe from almost all pressure. I think SuperNova would have won that game if he pulled SCVs to attacked the natural. idk about PvT balance, if you saw Taeja vs Rain, dat stomping lol So Rain losing one series means PvT is fine ? It's funny though, I as a protoss player always thought PvT is actually T favourited and don't understand the complaining from the terran players. like if there was any, even the smallest, buff to bio units, T would just roll over the P... honestly that explains a lot, people will be biased I haven't played SC2 much in almost 3 years so I am the most unbiased person on TL i haven't played sc2 ever hah (ladder) i've played a few games of like nexus wars + campaign but that's about it rofl On August 30 2013 20:28 samurai80 wrote:On August 30 2013 20:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 30 2013 20:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 30 2013 20:00 Emzeeshady wrote:On August 30 2013 19:53 lichter wrote:
Bbyong is my pick for worst player in Code S but will somehow make it out of his groups this season So hes the Supernova of last season? I can buy that even though Bbyong is better. User was banned for this post. Why was he banned? xD I mean he's really a pain in the ass tonight, but I don't see how this was ban worthy. Posting history. I've been through his recent history right now (about 20 last posts), I cannot see anything even temp ban worthy. I assume there is some older history with this guy or there is somthing I don't understand. I have been banned twice in the past and I know well why it happened but not in this guy's case. On August 30 2013 20:18 opterown wrote:On August 30 2013 20:14 GolemMadness wrote:On August 30 2013 20:08 sAsImre wrote:On August 30 2013 20:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 30 2013 20:00 Emzeeshady wrote:On August 30 2013 19:53 lichter wrote:
Bbyong is my pick for worst player in Code S but will somehow make it out of his groups this season So hes the Supernova of last season? I can buy that even though Bbyong is better. User was banned for this post. Why was he banned? xD I mean he's really a pain in the ass tonight, but I don't see how this was ban worthy. look at his post/mod history. You can't see someone's mod history, can you? here is a rough list of his moderations Maybe it's my english skills but I don't understand most of the moderations. But I guess I shouldn't talk about that here anymore. TBH I'm getting frightened to post anything right now.
You should be. 
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Are the AZUBU players in turmoil right now?
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
Did anyone catch me? 
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
Saddest GSL group ever: 1 player, who retired couple of days before group was planned to be played, and 3 players from 3 different teams, that are on the verge of disbanding citing serious sponsor issues.
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On August 30 2013 21:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Saddest GSL group ever: 1 player, who retired couple of days before group was planned to be played, and 3 players from 3 different teams, that are on the verge of disbanding citing serious sponsor issues.
AND the games were weak D:
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 30 2013 21:04 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 21:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Saddest GSL group ever: 1 player, who retired couple of days before group was planned to be played, and 3 players from 3 different teams, that are on the verge of disbanding citing serious sponsor issues. AND the games were weak D:
I personally will mentally connect it with disbanding part. Also, obviously they are all sad that JangBi retired and think of it themselves.
+ Show Spoiler +Damn, korean sc2 scene is in pretty poor place now, compared to.
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On August 30 2013 21:04 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 21:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Saddest GSL group ever: 1 player, who retired couple of days before group was planned to be played, and 3 players from 3 different teams, that are on the verge of disbanding citing serious sponsor issues. AND the games were weak D:
AND the usual casters weren't even there
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On August 30 2013 21:25 ramask2 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 21:04 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 30 2013 21:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Saddest GSL group ever: 1 player, who retired couple of days before group was planned to be played, and 3 players from 3 different teams, that are on the verge of disbanding citing serious sponsor issues. AND the games were weak D: AND the usual casters weren't even there
AND we still haven't seen a game on Frost xD
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On August 30 2013 21:28 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 21:25 ramask2 wrote:On August 30 2013 21:04 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 30 2013 21:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Saddest GSL group ever: 1 player, who retired couple of days before group was planned to be played, and 3 players from 3 different teams, that are on the verge of disbanding citing serious sponsor issues. AND the games were weak D: AND the usual casters weren't even there AND we still haven't seen a game on Frost xD
Your Frost fetish is weird
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what the flying fuck, supernova!!
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 30 2013 21:34 neoghaleon55 wrote:
what the flying fuck, supernova!!
Just like BagonJangbi, he was unable to fly out of this group 
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 30 2013 21:29 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 21:28 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 30 2013 21:25 ramask2 wrote:On August 30 2013 21:04 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 30 2013 21:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Saddest GSL group ever: 1 player, who retired couple of days before group was planned to be played, and 3 players from 3 different teams, that are on the verge of disbanding citing serious sponsor issues. AND the games were weak D: AND the usual casters weren't even there AND we still haven't seen a game on Frost xD Your Frost fetish is weird
Simply it is good map that never ever will be played on except that one Dream vs Bbyong game and semifinals-finals matches.
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Well that was a short one... o.O
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
Watched game 1 of sOs vs Dear@GSL's twitch. Damn, sOs must win this season only playing pvps :D
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
Seriously, I was there live, I'm pretty sure I appeared on camera with a sign, you're all making me feel invisible
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