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On August 30 2013 19:47 Dodgin wrote:
LOL WHAT HAPPENED
i stopped watching intently because it looked like supernova had it
TvP is to Terran what ZvT is to Zerg. It doesn't matter if you have a 30 supply lead because a few mistakes here and there and Widow Mines/Storm will tear your army apart in seconds.
On August 30 2013 19:50 Thrillz wrote:Since the Hellbat nerf (which something was needed because TvT was ridiculous) Hellbats are surprisingly barely ever used anymore.
Same with Infestors. People are way to quick to completely refuse to used a nerfed unit, even if it was borderline OP before nerf.
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On August 30 2013 19:49 Topdoller wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 19:47 Aquila- wrote:
Lol entire army perfectly EMPd, 2 bunkers, Protoss still a moved through everything. Seems legit. Yes it was legit, Dear had better upgrades
Thats the point ... He had the same supply, better upgrades and was 2bases vs 3 ......
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way too quick of a group ;_; jangbi 
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On August 30 2013 19:50 RiZu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 19:49 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 30 2013 19:48 Arceus wrote:
SuNo pays badly for all the scv pulls he did last season. Justice claims another victim after that zerg. Whos next? Hyvaa and Bbyong Two of our finalist this season <3.
It shall be a final the likes of which nobody cares about since Hyun vs Sniper
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On August 30 2013 19:49 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 19:48 Arceus wrote:
SuNo pays badly for all the scv pulls he did last season. Justice claims another victim after that zerg. Whos next? Hyvaa and Bbyong
hyvaa plays 200 macro games last OSL included a wtfawesome game against Rain
And we can all forgive terrans in the hellbat era. Bbyong did play a drawn-out game with Bomber though
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On August 30 2013 19:48 i.of.the.storm wrote:Yeah, though MSC was pretty lame saving nexuses multiple times for free, if he was not so far behind on upgrades he should have won some of those engagements. He even got off a lot of good EMPs off but without the upgrades you can't compete.
I think that is the problem with PvT now (ZvT has its own issues). The MSC is just allowing so much freedom for protoss. They can be aggressive with their army. They can also be defensive and just tech (fast upgrades AND AoE tech). This was very risky in WoL, but with MSC, they are safe from almost all pressure. The one thing that the pre-nerf hellbats did was that it forced stalkers out of the protoss. They could defend hellbats just with Nexus canon. The gas spent on stalkers slowed down the upgrades and the AoE tech.
I think SuperNova would have won that game if he pulled SCVs to attacked the natural.
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On August 30 2013 19:50 Sea_aeS wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 19:49 Topdoller wrote:On August 30 2013 19:47 Aquila- wrote:
Lol entire army perfectly EMPd, 2 bunkers, Protoss still a moved through everything. Seems legit. Yes it was legit, Dear had better upgrades Thats the point ... He had the same supply, better upgrades and was 2bases vs 3 ......
That game also showed what happens when Terran tries to get blueflame hellbats, he just dies because you cant afford medivacs and upgrades and ghosts and blueflame and a second factory...
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Bbyong is my pick for worst player in Code S but will somehow make it out of his groups this season
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On August 30 2013 19:53 lichter wrote:
Bbyong is my pick for worst player in Code S but will somehow make it out of his groups this season
Meh I think this season there are quite a few players that are "not code s calibur" (w/e that means) and/or are newish.
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On August 30 2013 19:51 Arceus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 19:49 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 30 2013 19:48 Arceus wrote:
SuNo pays badly for all the scv pulls he did last season. Justice claims another victim after that zerg. Whos next? Hyvaa and Bbyong hyvaa plays 200 macro games last OSL included a wtfawesome game against Rain And we can all forgive terrans in the hellbat era. Bbyong did play a drawn-out game with Bomber though
Hyvaa killed Leenock and also had that one series against Fantasy..he must pay for his sins.
Bbyong just for the hell of it. He's like Alive 2.0 without a big win.
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On August 30 2013 19:50 Prog455 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 19:47 Dodgin wrote:
LOL WHAT HAPPENED
i stopped watching intently because it looked like supernova had it TvP is to Terran what ZvT is to Zerg. It doesn't matter if you have a 30 supply lead because a few mistakes here and there and Widow Mines/Storm will tear your army apart in seconds. Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 19:50 Thrillz wrote:On August 30 2013 19:46 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Hellbats, too late. Since the Hellbat nerf (which something was needed because TvT was ridiculous) Hellbats are surprisingly barely ever used anymore. Same with Infestors. People are way to quick to completely refuse to used a nerfed unit, even if it was borderline OP before nerf.
It is a substantial nerf. From 30 -> 18 dmg to light.
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On August 30 2013 19:52 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 19:48 i.of.the.storm wrote:On August 30 2013 19:46 stuchiu wrote:
0-3 always beats 1-1. Yeah, though MSC was pretty lame saving nexuses multiple times for free, if he was not so far behind on upgrades he should have won some of those engagements. He even got off a lot of good EMPs off but without the upgrades you can't compete. I think that is the problem with PvT now (ZvT has its own issues). The MSC is just allowing so much freedom for protoss. They can be aggressive with their army. They can also be defensive and just tech (fast upgrades AND AoE tech). This was very risky in WoL, but with MSC, they are safe from almost all pressure. I think SuperNova would have won that game if he pulled SCVs to attacked the natural.
idk about PvT balance, if you saw Taeja vs Rain, dat stomping lol
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On August 30 2013 20:02 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 19:52 vthree wrote:On August 30 2013 19:48 i.of.the.storm wrote:On August 30 2013 19:46 stuchiu wrote:
0-3 always beats 1-1. Yeah, though MSC was pretty lame saving nexuses multiple times for free, if he was not so far behind on upgrades he should have won some of those engagements. He even got off a lot of good EMPs off but without the upgrades you can't compete. I think that is the problem with PvT now (ZvT has its own issues). The MSC is just allowing so much freedom for protoss. They can be aggressive with their army. They can also be defensive and just tech (fast upgrades AND AoE tech). This was very risky in WoL, but with MSC, they are safe from almost all pressure. I think SuperNova would have won that game if he pulled SCVs to attacked the natural. idk about PvT balance, if you saw Taeja vs Rain, dat stomping lol
And Scarlett beat Maru... So I guess TvZ is fine as well...
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Austria24420 Posts
On August 30 2013 20:03 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 20:02 Die4Ever wrote:On August 30 2013 19:52 vthree wrote:On August 30 2013 19:48 i.of.the.storm wrote:On August 30 2013 19:46 stuchiu wrote:
0-3 always beats 1-1. Yeah, though MSC was pretty lame saving nexuses multiple times for free, if he was not so far behind on upgrades he should have won some of those engagements. He even got off a lot of good EMPs off but without the upgrades you can't compete. I think that is the problem with PvT now (ZvT has its own issues). The MSC is just allowing so much freedom for protoss. They can be aggressive with their army. They can also be defensive and just tech (fast upgrades AND AoE tech). This was very risky in WoL, but with MSC, they are safe from almost all pressure. I think SuperNova would have won that game if he pulled SCVs to attacked the natural. idk about PvT balance, if you saw Taeja vs Rain, dat stomping lol And Scarlett beat Maru... So I guess TvZ is fine as well...
Maru's TvZ isn't what Rain's PvT is.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
One season he beats Soulkey, PartinG, Squirtle, Trap and Losira and now he goes 0 - 4
sigh SuNo
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On August 30 2013 20:00 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 19:53 lichter wrote:
Bbyong is my pick for worst player in Code S but will somehow make it out of his groups this season So hes the Supernova of last season? I can buy that even though Bbyong is better. User was banned for this post.
Why was he banned? xD
I mean he's really a pain in the ass tonight, but I don't see how this was ban worthy.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 30 2013 20:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 20:00 Emzeeshady wrote:On August 30 2013 19:53 lichter wrote:
Bbyong is my pick for worst player in Code S but will somehow make it out of his groups this season So hes the Supernova of last season? I can buy that even though Bbyong is better. User was banned for this post. Why was he banned? xD I mean he's really a pain in the ass tonight, but I don't see how this was ban worthy.
In beginning of thread there was a quote with explanation behind this ban.
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Austria24420 Posts
On August 30 2013 20:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 20:00 Emzeeshady wrote:On August 30 2013 19:53 lichter wrote:
Bbyong is my pick for worst player in Code S but will somehow make it out of his groups this season So hes the Supernova of last season? I can buy that even though Bbyong is better. User was banned for this post. Why was he banned? xD I mean he's really a pain in the ass tonight, but I don't see how this was ban worthy.
Posting history.
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