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RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
August 25 2013 14:27 GMT
#4161
LWWWW Standard JD.
yOngKIN
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (North)656 Posts
August 25 2013 14:27 GMT
#4162
On August 25 2013 23:26 ShroudeD wrote:
DID ARTOSIS JUST CURSE JD?NUUU

Did he make a prediction?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 25 2013 14:28 GMT
#4163
On August 25 2013 23:25 The_Templar wrote:
(Z)Jaedong vs (T)Bomber
0-1
Map: Star Station


Jaedong spawns in the top right
Bomber spawns in the bottom left


2:00
Jaedong going hatchery first.
Bomber making a CC before barracks.
Bomber making a barracks.

3:00
Neither player has gas.
My internet cuts out randomly so I miss a bunch.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
JP Dayne
Profile Joined June 2013
538 Posts
August 25 2013 14:28 GMT
#4164
On August 25 2013 23:26 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 23:25 JP Dayne wrote:
who knocked innovation out?


Naniwa and Taeja as expected


oh i'll definetly look for the vods
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 14:29:57
August 25 2013 14:28 GMT
#4165
On August 25 2013 23:27 Netto. wrote:
that sick twitch lag is killing me - . -


Look at the bright side, while the stream is freezed you can go on twitter and facebook like Artosis told you to
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 14:28:32
August 25 2013 14:28 GMT
#4166
Roach bust his ass
Edit:nvm
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
Orangered
Profile Joined June 2013
289 Posts
August 25 2013 14:28 GMT
#4167
nice build order
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44275 Posts
August 25 2013 14:28 GMT
#4168
On August 25 2013 23:27 Cereb wrote:
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On August 25 2013 23:24 DucK- wrote:
I'm not familiar with how SC2 works. Never quite liked SC2 as compared to BW. What was the reason JD loss? It looked even early on with both of them at similar armies. JD 4 bases vs Bomber 3 bases. Sounds like normal.


The engagement was crucial. Bomber got a great position because JD couldn't attack him sooner without speed for the banes. At the same time when the engagement happened a lot of those banes hit Bomber's tank and he didn't avoid the terran splash damage well enough. Also the early lings that didnt do too much could have been drones.

late baneling speed + no damage of early lings
this is a quote
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 25 2013 14:28 GMT
#4169
On August 25 2013 23:27 TheDwf wrote:
Oh no, again CC rax CC with rax wall and defensive Tanks. ;(

But this time JD decided to pretend he will try to punish this :D
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
August 25 2013 14:28 GMT
#4170
Lol thats a solid wall there.
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
August 25 2013 14:28 GMT
#4171
I want to see a bomber medibomb

Suicide Terran at his best.
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 25 2013 14:28 GMT
#4172
WoL TvZ again!
Moderator
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
August 25 2013 14:28 GMT
#4173
On August 25 2013 23:27 TheDwf wrote:
Oh no, again CC rax CC with rax wall and defensive Tanks. ;(


JD has been showing really agressive play on maps where defending the 3rd is hard, may work out for bomber (I still dislike the build though)
yOngKIN
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (North)656 Posts
August 25 2013 14:29 GMT
#4174
roach bust like a madman
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 25 2013 14:29 GMT
#4175
Yeah, I hope we see medibombs!
The Bomber boy
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 25 2013 14:29 GMT
#4176
On August 25 2013 23:24 Zarahtra wrote:
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On August 25 2013 23:23 KaneZ wrote:
ZvT just not at all as forgiving as TvP or PvZ. Single mistake, Terran gets supplylead, it's basically over.

Yeah and that's not the case in TvP...


ZvT has now Banelings on both side, aka mess up and one Baneling can reset your mess up. In short I feel like each engagement gains the winner a bit of ground only. Sounds quiet forgiving to me when the game is not over after one fight no matter what.
I wonder how Zergs would fair if they use Burrow, so far only the Terran does. If Zerg still is worse with constant burrowed Baneling use or Terran finds out about the Raven, then I would say Terran has a slight cost bonus.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 14:30:36
August 25 2013 14:29 GMT
#4177
On August 25 2013 23:26 biteMe wrote:
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On August 25 2013 23:24 scypio wrote:
On August 25 2013 23:23 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
I don't see how muta ling bane is ever suppose to win vs macro like that Bomber can literally throw away his army over and over it's so cheap vs the mutas Lings are pretty cheap but you need 4 lings to every marine pretty much


1. Do not make 16 lings that do nothing super early game
2. Do not forget baneling speed crucial for hodling this.
3. Watch Scarlett vs Bomber games where she rolls him with mula-ling-bling.

save your breath every single highlvl zvt looks like this on that map


The 16 lings weren't wasted they were used against the Hellions.

It was a calculated risk as well, if JD hadn't made those he wouldn't have been able to have the possibility to exploit the fact that Bomber might not have finished the wall. Just because they weren't used immediately doesn't put Zerg behind immediately, those units still have their use and honestly 16 lings isn't that heavy an investment even if it's early game.



Game 2: Bomber going quick 3 cc, JD is probably going to all-in from here as an all-in is the only proper answer to a quick 3 cc, you can't out-greed it as 4 hellions (400 mineral investment in units) can completely shut down a Zerg base.

Edit: Come to think of it I could be wrong because Siege Tanks help quite a lot vs all-ins so the attack could fail, but really if JD doesn't punish Bomber very soon he's going to lose.
maru lover forever
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 25 2013 14:29 GMT
#4178
On August 25 2013 23:28 Doko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 23:27 TheDwf wrote:
Oh no, again CC rax CC with rax wall and defensive Tanks. ;(


JD has been showing really agressive play on maps where defending the 3rd is hard, may work out for bomber (I still dislike the build though)

Yeah, it's so passive.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
August 25 2013 14:29 GMT
#4179
"Is this a sign of aggression from JD?"

No, its a standard double gas timing
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 25 2013 14:29 GMT
#4180
On August 25 2013 23:29 Wintex wrote:
Yeah, I hope we see medibombs!

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