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Cayetano
Profile Joined August 2013
United States79 Posts
August 02 2013 15:39 GMT
#621
As a spaniard, I'm always rooting for the duran brothers. Hope they both advance! Shame they always have to match up against each other haha. Group D is insane though!
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
August 02 2013 15:40 GMT
#622
On August 03 2013 00:25 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:23 Fusilero wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:22 Crownlol wrote:
Group D is bullshit, it's essentially every one I wanted to win the tournament in ONE group, except DRG and Taeja.

A tournament with los hermanos duran not killing eachother? Ahahahahahaha.


Think VortiX can finally stand up to Luci?

He has beaten his brother many times already and judging by this tournament he got his skill back up (after a period of little results because of his studies). That said I'd say Luci is the favorite at the moment.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
HappyZerGling
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Ukraine161 Posts
August 02 2013 15:40 GMT
#623
Duran curse ftw
happy me, happy skill, happy win :D twitch.tv/happyzerg https://twitter.com/HappyZerG1
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
August 02 2013 15:40 GMT
#624
Happy is just oozing quality and skill. I absolutely love watching him and Lucifron.

Also shoutout to TLO, talk about getting a ridiculous group with the two strongest players in the tournament in Taeja and Hyun.
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 02 2013 15:41 GMT
#625
Ah! Glad to see TaeJa and San made it! Would've rather see TLO through than HyuN though.
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Sevre
Profile Joined June 2013
Ireland619 Posts
August 02 2013 15:41 GMT
#626
On August 03 2013 00:33 TommyP wrote:
Hyvaa obvious best Zerg player. In all seriousness, I don't see how anybody can make an argument for Hyun being the best Z in the world


It's hard to compare him to Korean Zergs, but consider that Life and Symbol aren't in form right now, Jaedong's been beaten by HyuN, and Soulkey is out of the OSL and only concentrating on Proleague. If you consider Soulkey to be better than HyuN that's fair enough, but going by recent records HyuN is definitely a top 3 Zerg.
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
August 02 2013 15:43 GMT
#627
On August 03 2013 00:41 Sevre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:33 TommyP wrote:
Hyvaa obvious best Zerg player. In all seriousness, I don't see how anybody can make an argument for Hyun being the best Z in the world


It's hard to compare him to Korean Zergs, but consider that Life and Symbol aren't in form right now, Jaedong's been beaten by HyuN, and Soulkey is out of the OSL and only concentrating on Proleague. If you consider Soulkey to be better than HyuN that's fair enough, but going by recent records HyuN is definitely a top 3 Zerg.


recent results yes, but I wouldn't only put him in the top 5 at least

1. sk
2. life
3. symbol
4. hyun
5. jd
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 02 2013 15:44 GMT
#628
On August 03 2013 00:43 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:41 Sevre wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:33 TommyP wrote:
Hyvaa obvious best Zerg player. In all seriousness, I don't see how anybody can make an argument for Hyun being the best Z in the world


It's hard to compare him to Korean Zergs, but consider that Life and Symbol aren't in form right now, Jaedong's been beaten by HyuN, and Soulkey is out of the OSL and only concentrating on Proleague. If you consider Soulkey to be better than HyuN that's fair enough, but going by recent records HyuN is definitely a top 3 Zerg.


recent results yes, but I wouldn't only put him in the top 5 at least

1. sk
2. life
3. symbol
4. hyun
5. jd


Well, if we aren't going by recent results, might as well put Nestea and DRG up there.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 02 2013 15:45 GMT
#629
On August 03 2013 00:39 BigFan wrote:
I don't see Hyun as the best zerg in the world. Ya, his performance is really strong lately but I'd rather see him play against the likes of Soulkey etc... to verify it. Winning in mostly foreigner tournaments can be deceiving imo.
Hyun is one of the best zergs. Unlikely the single best, but one of them.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 02 2013 15:45 GMT
#630
On August 03 2013 00:43 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:41 Sevre wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:33 TommyP wrote:
Hyvaa obvious best Zerg player. In all seriousness, I don't see how anybody can make an argument for Hyun being the best Z in the world


It's hard to compare him to Korean Zergs, but consider that Life and Symbol aren't in form right now, Jaedong's been beaten by HyuN, and Soulkey is out of the OSL and only concentrating on Proleague. If you consider Soulkey to be better than HyuN that's fair enough, but going by recent records HyuN is definitely a top 3 Zerg.


recent results yes, but I wouldn't only put him in the top 5 at least

1. sk
2. life
3. symbol
4. hyun
5. jd


Would put Losira over Hyun/JD, Curious, soO, RorO, Leenock and even hyvaa are debatable as well.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 02 2013 15:47 GMT
#631
On August 03 2013 00:45 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:39 BigFan wrote:
I don't see Hyun as the best zerg in the world. Ya, his performance is really strong lately but I'd rather see him play against the likes of Soulkey etc... to verify it. Winning in mostly foreigner tournaments can be deceiving imo.
Hyun is one of the best zergs. Unlikely the single best, but one of them.

yep, exactly what I meant lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Sevre
Profile Joined June 2013
Ireland619 Posts
August 02 2013 15:50 GMT
#632
On August 03 2013 00:43 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:41 Sevre wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:33 TommyP wrote:
Hyvaa obvious best Zerg player. In all seriousness, I don't see how anybody can make an argument for Hyun being the best Z in the world


It's hard to compare him to Korean Zergs, but consider that Life and Symbol aren't in form right now, Jaedong's been beaten by HyuN, and Soulkey is out of the OSL and only concentrating on Proleague. If you consider Soulkey to be better than HyuN that's fair enough, but going by recent records HyuN is definitely a top 3 Zerg.


recent results yes, but I wouldn't only put him in the top 5 at least

1. sk
2. life
3. symbol
4. hyun
5. jd


No way do (Z)Life and (Z)Symbol warrant such high placements with their recent records. I know Life beat Bomber at RSL but you can only give that so much weight when JD and HyuN are getting consistent podium finishes.
zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
August 02 2013 15:51 GMT
#633
On August 03 2013 00:39 WigglingSquid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:36 zeratul_jf wrote:
Why does Lucifron and Vortix always beating each other up. This reminds me of Day[9] vs Tasteless, its like even when you arent going alphabetically you still have to play your brother and its not in the finals.

They'll both get through anyway.


I am hoping for this too, but stardust seems like he could be a problem if Lucifron wins vs his brother.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 02 2013 15:52 GMT
#634
On August 03 2013 00:51 zeratul_jf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:39 WigglingSquid wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:36 zeratul_jf wrote:
Why does Lucifron and Vortix always beating each other up. This reminds me of Day[9] vs Tasteless, its like even when you arent going alphabetically you still have to play your brother and its not in the finals.

They'll both get through anyway.


I am hoping for this too, but stardust seems like he could be a problem if Lucifron wins vs his brother.

It boils down to how much PvZ StarDust ends up playing, I'd reckon.
kiss kiss fall in love
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 02 2013 15:52 GMT
#635
On August 03 2013 00:50 Sevre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:43 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:41 Sevre wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:33 TommyP wrote:
Hyvaa obvious best Zerg player. In all seriousness, I don't see how anybody can make an argument for Hyun being the best Z in the world


It's hard to compare him to Korean Zergs, but consider that Life and Symbol aren't in form right now, Jaedong's been beaten by HyuN, and Soulkey is out of the OSL and only concentrating on Proleague. If you consider Soulkey to be better than HyuN that's fair enough, but going by recent records HyuN is definitely a top 3 Zerg.


recent results yes, but I wouldn't only put him in the top 5 at least

1. sk
2. life
3. symbol
4. hyun
5. jd


No way do (Z)Life and (Z)Symbol warrant such high placements with their recent records. I know Life beat Bomber at RSL but you can only give that so much weight when JD and HyuN are getting consistent podium finishes.


Hard to gauge since they are playing in different tournament vs different players.
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
August 02 2013 15:54 GMT
#636
On August 03 2013 00:50 Sevre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:43 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:41 Sevre wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:33 TommyP wrote:
Hyvaa obvious best Zerg player. In all seriousness, I don't see how anybody can make an argument for Hyun being the best Z in the world


It's hard to compare him to Korean Zergs, but consider that Life and Symbol aren't in form right now, Jaedong's been beaten by HyuN, and Soulkey is out of the OSL and only concentrating on Proleague. If you consider Soulkey to be better than HyuN that's fair enough, but going by recent records HyuN is definitely a top 3 Zerg.


recent results yes, but I wouldn't only put him in the top 5 at least

1. sk
2. life
3. symbol
4. hyun
5. jd


No way do (Z)Life and (Z)Symbol warrant such high placements with their recent records. I know Life beat Bomber at RSL but you can only give that so much weight when JD and HyuN are getting consistent podium finishes.

Life is arguable, but Symbol got Ro8 Code S, which is arguably way better than the second places at mediocre foreigner tournaments that Jaedong has.
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 15:56:10
August 02 2013 15:54 GMT
#637
On August 03 2013 00:52 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:50 Sevre wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:43 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:41 Sevre wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:33 TommyP wrote:
Hyvaa obvious best Zerg player. In all seriousness, I don't see how anybody can make an argument for Hyun being the best Z in the world


It's hard to compare him to Korean Zergs, but consider that Life and Symbol aren't in form right now, Jaedong's been beaten by HyuN, and Soulkey is out of the OSL and only concentrating on Proleague. If you consider Soulkey to be better than HyuN that's fair enough, but going by recent records HyuN is definitely a top 3 Zerg.


recent results yes, but I wouldn't only put him in the top 5 at least

1. sk
2. life
3. symbol
4. hyun
5. jd


No way do (Z)Life and (Z)Symbol warrant such high placements with their recent records. I know Life beat Bomber at RSL but you can only give that so much weight when JD and HyuN are getting consistent podium finishes.


Hard to gauge since they are playing in different tournament vs different players.


took the words right out of my mouth

and:

On August 03 2013 00:54 krutopatkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:50 Sevre wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:43 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:41 Sevre wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:33 TommyP wrote:
Hyvaa obvious best Zerg player. In all seriousness, I don't see how anybody can make an argument for Hyun being the best Z in the world


It's hard to compare him to Korean Zergs, but consider that Life and Symbol aren't in form right now, Jaedong's been beaten by HyuN, and Soulkey is out of the OSL and only concentrating on Proleague. If you consider Soulkey to be better than HyuN that's fair enough, but going by recent records HyuN is definitely a top 3 Zerg.


recent results yes, but I wouldn't only put him in the top 5 at least

1. sk
2. life
3. symbol
4. hyun
5. jd


No way do (Z)Life and (Z)Symbol warrant such high placements with their recent records. I know Life beat Bomber at RSL but you can only give that so much weight when JD and HyuN are getting consistent podium finishes.

Life is arguable, but Symbol got Ro8 Code S, which is arguably way better than the second places at mediocre foreigner tournaments that Jaedong has.

On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
Sevre
Profile Joined June 2013
Ireland619 Posts
August 02 2013 15:55 GMT
#638
On August 03 2013 00:52 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:50 Sevre wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:43 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:41 Sevre wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:33 TommyP wrote:
Hyvaa obvious best Zerg player. In all seriousness, I don't see how anybody can make an argument for Hyun being the best Z in the world


It's hard to compare him to Korean Zergs, but consider that Life and Symbol aren't in form right now, Jaedong's been beaten by HyuN, and Soulkey is out of the OSL and only concentrating on Proleague. If you consider Soulkey to be better than HyuN that's fair enough, but going by recent records HyuN is definitely a top 3 Zerg.


recent results yes, but I wouldn't only put him in the top 5 at least

1. sk
2. life
3. symbol
4. hyun
5. jd


No way do (Z)Life and (Z)Symbol warrant such high placements with their recent records. I know Life beat Bomber at RSL but you can only give that so much weight when JD and HyuN are getting consistent podium finishes.


Hard to gauge since they are playing in different tournament vs different players.


Yeah which makes this quite arbitrary but regardless of who his opponents are, it's hard to call Symbol top 3 when he has a win rate of 53% and recently got destroyed by Yoda and Maru.
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
August 02 2013 15:56 GMT
#639
On August 03 2013 00:55 Sevre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:52 vthree wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:50 Sevre wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:43 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:41 Sevre wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:33 TommyP wrote:
Hyvaa obvious best Zerg player. In all seriousness, I don't see how anybody can make an argument for Hyun being the best Z in the world


It's hard to compare him to Korean Zergs, but consider that Life and Symbol aren't in form right now, Jaedong's been beaten by HyuN, and Soulkey is out of the OSL and only concentrating on Proleague. If you consider Soulkey to be better than HyuN that's fair enough, but going by recent records HyuN is definitely a top 3 Zerg.


recent results yes, but I wouldn't only put him in the top 5 at least

1. sk
2. life
3. symbol
4. hyun
5. jd


No way do (Z)Life and (Z)Symbol warrant such high placements with their recent records. I know Life beat Bomber at RSL but you can only give that so much weight when JD and HyuN are getting consistent podium finishes.


Hard to gauge since they are playing in different tournament vs different players.


Yeah which makes this quite arbitrary but regardless of who his opponents are, it's hard to call Symbol top 3 when he has a win rate of 53% and recently got destroyed by Yoda and Maru.

Well Yoda and Maru are probably better than theognis
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 02 2013 15:57 GMT
#640
On August 03 2013 00:50 Sevre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:43 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:41 Sevre wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:33 TommyP wrote:
Hyvaa obvious best Zerg player. In all seriousness, I don't see how anybody can make an argument for Hyun being the best Z in the world


It's hard to compare him to Korean Zergs, but consider that Life and Symbol aren't in form right now, Jaedong's been beaten by HyuN, and Soulkey is out of the OSL and only concentrating on Proleague. If you consider Soulkey to be better than HyuN that's fair enough, but going by recent records HyuN is definitely a top 3 Zerg.


recent results yes, but I wouldn't only put him in the top 5 at least

1. sk
2. life
3. symbol
4. hyun
5. jd


No way do (Z)Life and (Z)Symbol warrant such high placements with their recent records. I know Life beat Bomber at RSL but you can only give that so much weight when JD and HyuN are getting consistent podium finishes.


But I would call neither of them the favorite against a player like Bomber. Jaedong and Hayun are attending about every event, which is´nt the case for most zergs. At the latest tournament (IEM) Jaedong got knocked out in the group stages, while Revival won (and placed 2nd at WCS before that). Revival does´nt attend that much stuff, but in his latest two tournaments, he reached the finals both times.
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