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OK, now I want to mention that with ZerO having been the (took fucking long enough though) pioneer of using Queens in Brood War, both against Terran Mech and against Protoss (HT mainly, though some ensnare from time to time), it is a damn shame that he couldn't find a use for Vipers in his match against Trap, especially considering he went into Swarm Hosts and corruptors.
Pulling void rays and colossi would have better for him than getting Brood Lords, don't you think?
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ty all. cyaaaz. watch TI3
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Thank you SNM+whiplash for making it through the season with all the negative feedback too bad it's not gonna be the same duo next season. No more proleague and mind mind for a while -_- but it's been great!
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The downtime is gonna suck  . Proleague is way better than WCS.
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On August 03 2013 21:25 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 21:19 TT1 wrote:On August 03 2013 21:17 bertu wrote:On August 03 2013 21:02 Ammanas wrote:On August 03 2013 20:59 Marchinko wrote:
Would love to see the August power rank... Not hard to guess... 1. Inno 2. SK 3. Rain 4. Bomber 5. Maru + Show Spoiler +6. Hyun 7. Flash 8. sOs 9. and 10. not important, but I guess maybe Trap and First? 1 inno 2 rain 3 maru 4 bomber 5 soulkey 6 classic 7 flash 8 hyun 9 whoever wins asus rog10 revival agreed except for 8-10. add sos, jangbi and taeja (only if he wins asus) 9 whoever wins asus rog
Asus ROG and SPL finals not in July though ;-)
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Classic is golden, so clutch.
And a side note, SKT actually put up the best fight against STX, looks like Boxer won't be fired.
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On August 03 2013 21:20 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 21:17 KristofferAG wrote:On August 03 2013 21:14 StarStruck wrote:On August 03 2013 20:54 KristofferAG wrote:On August 03 2013 20:52 StarStruck wrote:On August 03 2013 20:48 Fragile51 wrote:On August 03 2013 20:47 StarStruck wrote:On August 03 2013 20:41 bo1b wrote:On August 03 2013 20:39 StarStruck wrote:On August 03 2013 20:37 Zealously wrote:
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I don't know about you but I always talk in terms of concurrents not periods of time and it was not even close to that. Mlg orlando had 180k+ with other games struggling to break 5k, before lol hit the mlg circuit. Sorry I was off by like 30k. Still ~10times higher then this. I certainly don't recall that and I have several hundred posts in that thread. Are you using this as your guiding principle? I've written MLG off several times when they posted their numbers and oh what do you know I actually did do my research on it and posted in that thread too. The real number I found was over 160k. That's great. Stop posting. Why should I? I called the guy out for over-exaggerating on concurrent viewers for an event I watched intently and did actual research on. lmao Doesn't hurt being right fellah. Glad my boys Trap, Mini and Classic pulled it off. Next time Stars! He actually said "over 8 hours". Completely fair to assume 200k different viewers tuned in over 8 hours. anyway, is this really worth popping a vein over. You're making this a much bigger deal than it is and you started it all out by acting all mean n shit. It's a bullshit statistic and I'll take Concurrent Viewers over Total Views any day of the week. Don't believe me? Ask the guys and ladies at Twitch what they value more. I find it very ironic that you say I'm overreacting when time and time again I see folks complain about the viewership, audience and other rubbish they have no control over. I find it very sad that the community resorts to that crap and it happens way too often. If I can cut that crap down to a smaller amount then I'll consider it a job well done. I don't care either way. Obsessing about viewer counts is dumb. Sure people whine about it, but why you've taken it upon yourself to "educate" everyone in what matters and what doesn't I don't get. You yelling at people on TL wont make less people whine about lack of viewers or inflated viewer numbers or "oh the good old days when we had 200k viewers". Considering I've already got a few people to stop doing it on these forums when I spoke with them? It's not much, but hey every little counts man. Not saying I'm going to change everyone's posting habits but if I can get through to a few people with my brash methods I'm going to do what I can to clean this place up a little.
If you are only calculating Twitch.Tv viewership you're plain wrong.
Firstly, there are youtube channels, both english and Korean one.
Secondly, there is the stream on the Korean website naver.com/daum.net, and bunch of people watching through gomtv player (direct url to stream) or VLC media player.
Lastly, this was broadcasted to the Korean people via TV, as ongamenet is an actually TV broadcaster unlike GomTV.
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On August 03 2013 21:21 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 21:20 Dodgin wrote:On August 03 2013 21:19 TT1 wrote:On August 03 2013 21:17 bertu wrote:On August 03 2013 21:02 Ammanas wrote:On August 03 2013 20:59 Marchinko wrote:
Would love to see the August power rank... Not hard to guess... 1. Inno 2. SK 3. Rain 4. Bomber 5. Maru + Show Spoiler +6. Hyun 7. Flash 8. sOs 9. and 10. not important, but I guess maybe Trap and First? 1 inno 2 rain 3 maru 4 bomber 5 soulkey 6 classic 7 flash 8 hyun 9 whoever wins asus rog 10 revival agreed except for 8-10. add sos, jangbi and taeja (only if he wins asus) jangbi didnt play any games in july though doesnt matter if were basing this off of skill jangbi still deserves to be in the top 10
I just used TL's criteria (heavy weight in games played this month), which is why revival is there. I was trying to guess TL's list instead of making my own power ranking. : P
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btw that power rank requires stardust!
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Oh n.b. while my post abve talks above what might have been better/more fun for ZerO to go for in the late game, I was one of the few that picked that as the best match. 
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On August 03 2013 21:27 Ammanas wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 21:25 GolemMadness wrote:On August 03 2013 21:19 TT1 wrote:On August 03 2013 21:17 bertu wrote:On August 03 2013 21:02 Ammanas wrote:On August 03 2013 20:59 Marchinko wrote:
Would love to see the August power rank... Not hard to guess... 1. Inno 2. SK 3. Rain 4. Bomber 5. Maru + Show Spoiler +6. Hyun 7. Flash 8. sOs 9. and 10. not important, but I guess maybe Trap and First? 1 inno 2 rain 3 maru 4 bomber 5 soulkey 6 classic 7 flash 8 hyun 9 whoever wins asus rog10 revival agreed except for 8-10. add sos, jangbi and taeja (only if he wins asus) 9 whoever wins asus rog Asus ROG and SPL finals not in July though ;-)
Hahaha, true, I just assume they would include all games until the list game out.
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rain vs. bomber wasn't in july either lol
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On August 03 2013 21:29 Estancia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 21:20 StarStruck wrote:On August 03 2013 21:17 KristofferAG wrote:On August 03 2013 21:14 StarStruck wrote:On August 03 2013 20:54 KristofferAG wrote:On August 03 2013 20:52 StarStruck wrote:On August 03 2013 20:48 Fragile51 wrote:On August 03 2013 20:47 StarStruck wrote:On August 03 2013 20:41 bo1b wrote:On August 03 2013 20:39 StarStruck wrote:
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I don't know about you but I always talk in terms of concurrents not periods of time and it was not even close to that. Mlg orlando had 180k+ with other games struggling to break 5k, before lol hit the mlg circuit. Sorry I was off by like 30k. Still ~10times higher then this. I certainly don't recall that and I have several hundred posts in that thread. Are you using this as your guiding principle? I've written MLG off several times when they posted their numbers and oh what do you know I actually did do my research on it and posted in that thread too. The real number I found was over 160k. That's great. Stop posting. Why should I? I called the guy out for over-exaggerating on concurrent viewers for an event I watched intently and did actual research on. lmao Doesn't hurt being right fellah. Glad my boys Trap, Mini and Classic pulled it off. Next time Stars! He actually said "over 8 hours". Completely fair to assume 200k different viewers tuned in over 8 hours. anyway, is this really worth popping a vein over. You're making this a much bigger deal than it is and you started it all out by acting all mean n shit. It's a bullshit statistic and I'll take Concurrent Viewers over Total Views any day of the week. Don't believe me? Ask the guys and ladies at Twitch what they value more. I find it very ironic that you say I'm overreacting when time and time again I see folks complain about the viewership, audience and other rubbish they have no control over. I find it very sad that the community resorts to that crap and it happens way too often. If I can cut that crap down to a smaller amount then I'll consider it a job well done. I don't care either way. Obsessing about viewer counts is dumb. Sure people whine about it, but why you've taken it upon yourself to "educate" everyone in what matters and what doesn't I don't get. You yelling at people on TL wont make less people whine about lack of viewers or inflated viewer numbers or "oh the good old days when we had 200k viewers". Considering I've already got a few people to stop doing it on these forums when I spoke with them? It's not much, but hey every little counts man. Not saying I'm going to change everyone's posting habits but if I can get through to a few people with my brash methods I'm going to do what I can to clean this place up a little. If you are only calculating Twitch.Tv viewership you're plain wrong. Firstly, there are youtube channels, both english and Korean one. Secondly, there is the stream on the Korean website naver.com/daum.net, and bunch of people watching through gomtv player (direct url to stream) or VLC media player. Lastly, this was broadcasted to the Korean people via TV, as ongamenet is an actually TV broadcaster unlike GomTV.
They're comparing viewers to LR thread posts/pages, though. Doesn't matter how many Korean viewers there are (via other methods) because their contributions to TL LR threads are negligible.
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On August 03 2013 21:34 Inflicted_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 21:29 Estancia wrote:On August 03 2013 21:20 StarStruck wrote:On August 03 2013 21:17 KristofferAG wrote:On August 03 2013 21:14 StarStruck wrote:On August 03 2013 20:54 KristofferAG wrote:On August 03 2013 20:52 StarStruck wrote:On August 03 2013 20:48 Fragile51 wrote:On August 03 2013 20:47 StarStruck wrote:On August 03 2013 20:41 bo1b wrote:
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Mlg orlando had 180k+ with other games struggling to break 5k, before lol hit the mlg circuit. Sorry I was off by like 30k. Still ~10times higher then this. I certainly don't recall that and I have several hundred posts in that thread. Are you using this as your guiding principle? I've written MLG off several times when they posted their numbers and oh what do you know I actually did do my research on it and posted in that thread too. The real number I found was over 160k. That's great. Stop posting. Why should I? I called the guy out for over-exaggerating on concurrent viewers for an event I watched intently and did actual research on. lmao Doesn't hurt being right fellah. Glad my boys Trap, Mini and Classic pulled it off. Next time Stars! He actually said "over 8 hours". Completely fair to assume 200k different viewers tuned in over 8 hours. anyway, is this really worth popping a vein over. You're making this a much bigger deal than it is and you started it all out by acting all mean n shit. It's a bullshit statistic and I'll take Concurrent Viewers over Total Views any day of the week. Don't believe me? Ask the guys and ladies at Twitch what they value more. I find it very ironic that you say I'm overreacting when time and time again I see folks complain about the viewership, audience and other rubbish they have no control over. I find it very sad that the community resorts to that crap and it happens way too often. If I can cut that crap down to a smaller amount then I'll consider it a job well done. I don't care either way. Obsessing about viewer counts is dumb. Sure people whine about it, but why you've taken it upon yourself to "educate" everyone in what matters and what doesn't I don't get. You yelling at people on TL wont make less people whine about lack of viewers or inflated viewer numbers or "oh the good old days when we had 200k viewers". Considering I've already got a few people to stop doing it on these forums when I spoke with them? It's not much, but hey every little counts man. Not saying I'm going to change everyone's posting habits but if I can get through to a few people with my brash methods I'm going to do what I can to clean this place up a little. If you are only calculating Twitch.Tv viewership you're plain wrong. Firstly, there are youtube channels, both english and Korean one. Secondly, there is the stream on the Korean website naver.com/daum.net, and bunch of people watching through gomtv player (direct url to stream) or VLC media player. Lastly, this was broadcasted to the Korean people via TV, as ongamenet is an actually TV broadcaster unlike GomTV. They're comparing viewers to LR thread posts/pages, though. Doesn't matter how many Korean viewers there are (via other methods) because their contributions to TL LR threads are negligible.
Oh lol. I thought it was some stupid argument saying something like Korean SCII scene is dying because SPL is getting lesser and lesser viewership.
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On August 03 2013 21:34 opterown wrote:
rain vs. bomber wasn't in july either lol
I think somewhere on the planet it was heh. And imo it being 1st of August and being the 2nd game of Ro4 (while 1st game was played in July), I think it should be taken into consideration ^^
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On August 03 2013 21:29 Estancia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 21:20 StarStruck wrote:On August 03 2013 21:17 KristofferAG wrote:On August 03 2013 21:14 StarStruck wrote:On August 03 2013 20:54 KristofferAG wrote:On August 03 2013 20:52 StarStruck wrote:On August 03 2013 20:48 Fragile51 wrote:On August 03 2013 20:47 StarStruck wrote:On August 03 2013 20:41 bo1b wrote:On August 03 2013 20:39 StarStruck wrote:
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I don't know about you but I always talk in terms of concurrents not periods of time and it was not even close to that. Mlg orlando had 180k+ with other games struggling to break 5k, before lol hit the mlg circuit. Sorry I was off by like 30k. Still ~10times higher then this. I certainly don't recall that and I have several hundred posts in that thread. Are you using this as your guiding principle? I've written MLG off several times when they posted their numbers and oh what do you know I actually did do my research on it and posted in that thread too. The real number I found was over 160k. That's great. Stop posting. Why should I? I called the guy out for over-exaggerating on concurrent viewers for an event I watched intently and did actual research on. lmao Doesn't hurt being right fellah. Glad my boys Trap, Mini and Classic pulled it off. Next time Stars! He actually said "over 8 hours". Completely fair to assume 200k different viewers tuned in over 8 hours. anyway, is this really worth popping a vein over. You're making this a much bigger deal than it is and you started it all out by acting all mean n shit. It's a bullshit statistic and I'll take Concurrent Viewers over Total Views any day of the week. Don't believe me? Ask the guys and ladies at Twitch what they value more. I find it very ironic that you say I'm overreacting when time and time again I see folks complain about the viewership, audience and other rubbish they have no control over. I find it very sad that the community resorts to that crap and it happens way too often. If I can cut that crap down to a smaller amount then I'll consider it a job well done. I don't care either way. Obsessing about viewer counts is dumb. Sure people whine about it, but why you've taken it upon yourself to "educate" everyone in what matters and what doesn't I don't get. You yelling at people on TL wont make less people whine about lack of viewers or inflated viewer numbers or "oh the good old days when we had 200k viewers". Considering I've already got a few people to stop doing it on these forums when I spoke with them? It's not much, but hey every little counts man. Not saying I'm going to change everyone's posting habits but if I can get through to a few people with my brash methods I'm going to do what I can to clean this place up a little. If you are only calculating Twitch.Tv viewership you're plain wrong. Firstly, there are youtube channels, both english and Korean one. Secondly, there is the stream on the Korean website naver.com/daum.net, and bunch of people watching through gomtv player (direct url to stream) or VLC media player. Lastly, this was broadcasted to the Korean people via TV, as ongamenet is an actually TV broadcaster unlike GomTV.
Um, we were talking about a previous MLG event man. The Aussie mentioned the 20k viewers he saw for the PL Finals and showed his displeasure. That wasn't me and I'm well aware of the other channels the PL is streamed on. I was poking at him for all the reasons I described previously.
On August 03 2013 21:37 Estancia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 21:34 Inflicted_ wrote:On August 03 2013 21:29 Estancia wrote:On August 03 2013 21:20 StarStruck wrote:On August 03 2013 21:17 KristofferAG wrote:On August 03 2013 21:14 StarStruck wrote:On August 03 2013 20:54 KristofferAG wrote:On August 03 2013 20:52 StarStruck wrote:On August 03 2013 20:48 Fragile51 wrote:On August 03 2013 20:47 StarStruck wrote:[quote] I certainly don't recall that and I have several hundred posts in that thread. Are you using this as your guiding principle? I've written MLG off several times when they posted their numbers and oh what do you know I actually did do my research on it and posted in that thread too. The real number I found was over 160k. That's great. Stop posting. Why should I? I called the guy out for over-exaggerating on concurrent viewers for an event I watched intently and did actual research on. lmao Doesn't hurt being right fellah. Glad my boys Trap, Mini and Classic pulled it off. Next time Stars! He actually said "over 8 hours". Completely fair to assume 200k different viewers tuned in over 8 hours. anyway, is this really worth popping a vein over. You're making this a much bigger deal than it is and you started it all out by acting all mean n shit. It's a bullshit statistic and I'll take Concurrent Viewers over Total Views any day of the week. Don't believe me? Ask the guys and ladies at Twitch what they value more. I find it very ironic that you say I'm overreacting when time and time again I see folks complain about the viewership, audience and other rubbish they have no control over. I find it very sad that the community resorts to that crap and it happens way too often. If I can cut that crap down to a smaller amount then I'll consider it a job well done. I don't care either way. Obsessing about viewer counts is dumb. Sure people whine about it, but why you've taken it upon yourself to "educate" everyone in what matters and what doesn't I don't get. You yelling at people on TL wont make less people whine about lack of viewers or inflated viewer numbers or "oh the good old days when we had 200k viewers". Considering I've already got a few people to stop doing it on these forums when I spoke with them? It's not much, but hey every little counts man. Not saying I'm going to change everyone's posting habits but if I can get through to a few people with my brash methods I'm going to do what I can to clean this place up a little. If you are only calculating Twitch.Tv viewership you're plain wrong. Firstly, there are youtube channels, both english and Korean one. Secondly, there is the stream on the Korean website naver.com/daum.net, and bunch of people watching through gomtv player (direct url to stream) or VLC media player. Lastly, this was broadcasted to the Korean people via TV, as ongamenet is an actually TV broadcaster unlike GomTV. They're comparing viewers to LR thread posts/pages, though. Doesn't matter how many Korean viewers there are (via other methods) because their contributions to TL LR threads are negligible. Oh lol. I thought it was some stupid argument saying something like Korean SCII scene is dying because SPL is getting lesser and lesser viewership.
No, no that isn't it at all.
On August 03 2013 21:29 edgeOut wrote:
Classic is golden, so clutch.
And a side note, SKT actually put up the best fight against STX, looks like Boxer won't be fired.
They wouldn't have fired him to begin with. >_<
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On August 03 2013 21:26 Wintex wrote:
ty all. cyaaaz. watch TI3
no ty, but ill play dota 2 now
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On August 03 2013 21:29 edgeOut wrote:
Classic is golden, so clutch.
And a side note, SKT actually put up the best fight against STX, looks like Boxer won't be fired.
Kinda sad that their players made some crucial mistakes that led to them losing in the end.
They were probably one of the teams that could possibly win this season. They plenty of strong players, but I think one of the reason for their loss was that their strongest players were almost all protoss, and their zerg were one of the weakest, which leads to easy snipes.
Wasn't even convinced that KT would win STX - The match showed that it was flash carrying the team the entire time. Their players weren't able to beat the better STX players. Props to him for providing some intense games though. If I'm not wrong the Winner's league round was what allowed KT to hit second position.
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Your rankings are dumb.
1. Inno
2. Soulkey
3. Rain
4. Bomber
5. Maru
6. Supernova
7. Flash
8. sOs
9. Trap
10. First
On August 03 2013 21:30 Wintex wrote:
btw that power rank requires stardust!
What... I don't even... since when does beating up foreigners and raping JD in PvZ count as an achievment?!?
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Just kidding bros I'm not mad
I expected STX to win but wanted Woongjin to win so bad
I don't think I've been this sad over SC2 since Mvp vs Life
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