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shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
August 03 2013 12:19 GMT
#3781
they really should combine the leagues. at least the we had 2 great games tonight, on the other hand the starleague has been mostly a waste of time,,.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 03 2013 12:19 GMT
#3782
On August 03 2013 21:19 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 21:18 Dodgin wrote:
On August 03 2013 21:18 dizzy101 wrote:
Extremely low viewer count!

Like, it was like 4-5k most of the time. Why nobody watching this stuff?


more like 20k, what numbers were you looking at?

also, youtube

and korean streams
Moderatorlickypiddy
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
August 03 2013 12:19 GMT
#3783
g5 why didnt zero make any overseers in the end , he could have sniped the obs with his corruptors,just wondering
yo
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10104 Posts
August 03 2013 12:19 GMT
#3784
On August 03 2013 21:17 bertu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 21:02 Ammanas wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:59 Marchinko wrote:
Would love to see the August power rank...


Not hard to guess...

1. Inno 2. SK 3. Rain 4. Bomber 5. Maru + Show Spoiler +
6. Hyun 7. Flash 8. sOs 9. and 10. not important, but I guess maybe Trap and First?


1 inno
2 rain
3 maru
4 bomber
5 soulkey
6 classic
7 flash
8 hyun
9 whoever wins asus rog
10 revival




agreed except for 8-10. add sos, jangbi and taeja (only if he wins asus)
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 03 2013 12:20 GMT
#3785
On August 03 2013 21:17 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 21:14 StarStruck wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:54 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:52 StarStruck wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:48 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:47 StarStruck wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:41 bo1b wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:39 StarStruck wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:37 Zealously wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:35 StarStruck wrote:
[quote]

Don't think so? Go back and check yourself I was posting non-stop in those threads man and we did not have over 200k people watching SC2 only. Stop being a dingbat.



On August 03 2013 20:34 Zealously wrote:
[quote]

Not simultaneous viewers but I'm pretty sure there were more than 200k unique viewers on at different times



I don't know about you but I always talk in terms of concurrents not periods of time and it was not even close to that.

Mlg orlando had 180k+ with other games struggling to break 5k, before lol hit the mlg circuit. Sorry I was off by like 30k. Still ~10times higher then this.


I certainly don't recall that and I have several hundred posts in that thread. Are you using this as your guiding principle? I've written MLG off several times when they posted their numbers and oh what do you know I actually did do my research on it and posted in that thread too. The real number I found was over 160k.


That's great. Stop posting.


Why should I? I called the guy out for over-exaggerating on concurrent viewers for an event I watched intently and did actual research on. lmao

Doesn't hurt being right fellah. Glad my boys Trap, Mini and Classic pulled it off. Next time Stars!

He actually said "over 8 hours". Completely fair to assume 200k different viewers tuned in over 8 hours.

anyway, is this really worth popping a vein over. You're making this a much bigger deal than it is and you started it all out by acting all mean n shit.


It's a bullshit statistic and I'll take Concurrent Viewers over Total Views any day of the week. Don't believe me? Ask the guys and ladies at Twitch what they value more. I find it very ironic that you say I'm overreacting when time and time again I see folks complain about the viewership, audience and other rubbish they have no control over. I find it very sad that the community resorts to that crap and it happens way too often. If I can cut that crap down to a smaller amount then I'll consider it a job well done.

I don't care either way. Obsessing about viewer counts is dumb. Sure people whine about it, but why you've taken it upon yourself to "educate" everyone in what matters and what doesn't I don't get. You yelling at people on TL wont make less people whine about lack of viewers or inflated viewer numbers or "oh the good old days when we had 200k viewers".


Considering I've already got a few people to stop doing it on these forums when I spoke with them? It's not much, but hey every little counts man. Not saying I'm going to change everyone's posting habits but if I can get through to a few people with my brash methods I'm going to do what I can to clean this place up a little.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 03 2013 12:20 GMT
#3786
On August 03 2013 21:19 shadymmj wrote:
they really should combine the leagues. at least the we had 2 great games tonight, on the other hand the starleague has been mostly a waste of time,,.

theirs been lots of good games in wcs kr.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
August 03 2013 12:20 GMT
#3787
On August 03 2013 21:19 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 21:18 Dodgin wrote:
On August 03 2013 21:18 dizzy101 wrote:
Extremely low viewer count!

Like, it was like 4-5k most of the time. Why nobody watching this stuff?


more like 20k, what numbers were you looking at?

also, youtube


And Koren tv numbers
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
August 03 2013 12:20 GMT
#3788
Korean casters literally jumping on their seat to commentate. So much passion!
Ensue
Profile Joined March 2013
United States144 Posts
August 03 2013 12:20 GMT
#3789
WINnoVation Regardless, I loved watching Soulkey vs. Innovation :D
And of course, congrats to STX Soul
“Toast cannot be explained by any rational means. Toast is me. I am toast.” —Margaret Atwood, Oryx and Crake
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 03 2013 12:20 GMT
#3790
On August 03 2013 21:19 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 21:17 bertu wrote:
On August 03 2013 21:02 Ammanas wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:59 Marchinko wrote:
Would love to see the August power rank...


Not hard to guess...

1. Inno 2. SK 3. Rain 4. Bomber 5. Maru + Show Spoiler +
6. Hyun 7. Flash 8. sOs 9. and 10. not important, but I guess maybe Trap and First?


1 inno
2 rain
3 maru
4 bomber
5 soulkey
6 classic
7 flash
8 hyun
9 whoever wins asus rog
10 revival




agreed except for 8-10. add sos, jangbi and taeja (only if he wins asus)


jangbi didnt play any games in july though
munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
August 03 2013 12:20 GMT
#3791
On August 03 2013 21:19 shadymmj wrote:
they really should combine the leagues. at least the we had 2 great games tonight, on the other hand the starleague has been mostly a waste of time,,.
Does anybody know if there's a way to put some pressure on esf and kespa to make this happen. I'd hate to see the current situation continue for another year.
THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
August 03 2013 12:21 GMT
#3792
Great final shots!!
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10104 Posts
August 03 2013 12:21 GMT
#3793
On August 03 2013 21:20 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 21:19 TT1 wrote:
On August 03 2013 21:17 bertu wrote:
On August 03 2013 21:02 Ammanas wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:59 Marchinko wrote:
Would love to see the August power rank...


Not hard to guess...

1. Inno 2. SK 3. Rain 4. Bomber 5. Maru + Show Spoiler +
6. Hyun 7. Flash 8. sOs 9. and 10. not important, but I guess maybe Trap and First?


1 inno
2 rain
3 maru
4 bomber
5 soulkey
6 classic
7 flash
8 hyun
9 whoever wins asus rog
10 revival




agreed except for 8-10. add sos, jangbi and taeja (only if he wins asus)


jangbi didnt play any games in july though


doesnt matter if were basing this off of skill jangbi still deserves to be in the top 10
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
August 03 2013 12:22 GMT
#3794
that very last shot with Calm holding the trophy and wondering. So beautiful
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 03 2013 12:22 GMT
#3795
On August 03 2013 21:20 munchmunch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 21:19 shadymmj wrote:
they really should combine the leagues. at least the we had 2 great games tonight, on the other hand the starleague has been mostly a waste of time,,.
Does anybody know if there's a way to put some pressure on esf and kespa to make this happen. I'd hate to see the current situation continue for another year.

Indeed, they have to do it for next year already. They are taking too long with this and it's not helping either party, I think.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
August 03 2013 12:22 GMT
#3796
Congratz STX! You deserve it and we are all glad that the next season is more or less confirmed by the Kespa officials and STX sponsorship confirmed by STX head himself.

Also want to say - thanks SNM and Whiplash for casting - even though the beginnings were rough, I think they have managed to improve to the point that in finals they were very solid and enjoyable casters.

And as a personal remark, I want to thank all the people that contributed to BW Liquipedia. Thanks to you, I have fallen in love with Proleague and Samsung KHAN even though this was the first Proleague season I have followed. Now it is my favorite league by far and I cannot wait for the next season! So see you all on the opening day of the next season!
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
August 03 2013 12:23 GMT
#3797
On August 03 2013 21:20 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 21:17 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 03 2013 21:14 StarStruck wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:54 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:52 StarStruck wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:48 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:47 StarStruck wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:41 bo1b wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:39 StarStruck wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:37 Zealously wrote:
[quote]


[quote]


I don't know about you but I always talk in terms of concurrents not periods of time and it was not even close to that.

Mlg orlando had 180k+ with other games struggling to break 5k, before lol hit the mlg circuit. Sorry I was off by like 30k. Still ~10times higher then this.


I certainly don't recall that and I have several hundred posts in that thread. Are you using this as your guiding principle? I've written MLG off several times when they posted their numbers and oh what do you know I actually did do my research on it and posted in that thread too. The real number I found was over 160k.


That's great. Stop posting.


Why should I? I called the guy out for over-exaggerating on concurrent viewers for an event I watched intently and did actual research on. lmao

Doesn't hurt being right fellah. Glad my boys Trap, Mini and Classic pulled it off. Next time Stars!

He actually said "over 8 hours". Completely fair to assume 200k different viewers tuned in over 8 hours.

anyway, is this really worth popping a vein over. You're making this a much bigger deal than it is and you started it all out by acting all mean n shit.


It's a bullshit statistic and I'll take Concurrent Viewers over Total Views any day of the week. Don't believe me? Ask the guys and ladies at Twitch what they value more. I find it very ironic that you say I'm overreacting when time and time again I see folks complain about the viewership, audience and other rubbish they have no control over. I find it very sad that the community resorts to that crap and it happens way too often. If I can cut that crap down to a smaller amount then I'll consider it a job well done.

I don't care either way. Obsessing about viewer counts is dumb. Sure people whine about it, but why you've taken it upon yourself to "educate" everyone in what matters and what doesn't I don't get. You yelling at people on TL wont make less people whine about lack of viewers or inflated viewer numbers or "oh the good old days when we had 200k viewers".


Considering I've already got a few people to stop doing it on these forums when I spoke with them? It's not much, but hey every little counts man. Not saying I'm going to change everyone's posting habits but if I can get through to a few people with my brash methods I'm going to do what I can to clean this place up a little.

+1.
Good guy StarStruck doing his part. ♥ Never stop putting in Eff0rt, because someone has to!
ZerO - FantaSy - Calm - Nal_rA - Jaedong - NaDa - EffOrt - Bisu - by.hero - StarDust - Welmu - Nerchio - Supernova - Solar - Squirtle - LosirA - Grubby - IntoTheRainbow - Golden... ~~~ Incredible Miracle and Woongjin Stars 화이팅!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 03 2013 12:23 GMT
#3798
On August 03 2013 21:21 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 21:20 Dodgin wrote:
On August 03 2013 21:19 TT1 wrote:
On August 03 2013 21:17 bertu wrote:
On August 03 2013 21:02 Ammanas wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:59 Marchinko wrote:
Would love to see the August power rank...


Not hard to guess...

1. Inno 2. SK 3. Rain 4. Bomber 5. Maru + Show Spoiler +
6. Hyun 7. Flash 8. sOs 9. and 10. not important, but I guess maybe Trap and First?


1 inno
2 rain
3 maru
4 bomber
5 soulkey
6 classic
7 flash
8 hyun
9 whoever wins asus rog
10 revival




agreed except for 8-10. add sos, jangbi and taeja (only if he wins asus)


jangbi didnt play any games in july though


doesnt matter if were basing this off of skill jangbi still deserves to be in the top 10


in power rank they usually only give players who had a bad month or played no games a high rank if they're flash
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
August 03 2013 12:24 GMT
#3799
gonna miss proleague for the next few months, guys
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-03 12:25:51
August 03 2013 12:25 GMT
#3800
On August 03 2013 21:19 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 21:17 bertu wrote:
On August 03 2013 21:02 Ammanas wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:59 Marchinko wrote:
Would love to see the August power rank...


Not hard to guess...

1. Inno 2. SK 3. Rain 4. Bomber 5. Maru + Show Spoiler +
6. Hyun 7. Flash 8. sOs 9. and 10. not important, but I guess maybe Trap and First?


1 inno
2 rain
3 maru
4 bomber
5 soulkey
6 classic
7 flash
8 hyun
9 whoever wins asus rog
10 revival




agreed except for 8-10. add sos, jangbi and taeja (only if he wins asus)


9 whoever wins asus rog
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