• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:18
CEST 14:18
KST 21:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver4[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down0StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon98Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?178Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! [D] Brainstorming a balance patch for Brood war Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game [ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro16 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread UK Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8482 users

[SPL] Finals - STX SouL vs. Woongjin Stars - Page 190

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 188 189 190 191 192 200 Next
Read this before posting.
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
August 03 2013 12:19 GMT
#3781
they really should combine the leagues. at least the we had 2 great games tonight, on the other hand the starleague has been mostly a waste of time,,.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 03 2013 12:19 GMT
#3782
On August 03 2013 21:19 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 21:18 Dodgin wrote:
On August 03 2013 21:18 dizzy101 wrote:
Extremely low viewer count!

Like, it was like 4-5k most of the time. Why nobody watching this stuff?


more like 20k, what numbers were you looking at?

also, youtube

and korean streams
Moderatorlickypiddy
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
August 03 2013 12:19 GMT
#3783
g5 why didnt zero make any overseers in the end , he could have sniped the obs with his corruptors,just wondering
yo
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10067 Posts
August 03 2013 12:19 GMT
#3784
On August 03 2013 21:17 bertu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 21:02 Ammanas wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:59 Marchinko wrote:
Would love to see the August power rank...


Not hard to guess...

1. Inno 2. SK 3. Rain 4. Bomber 5. Maru + Show Spoiler +
6. Hyun 7. Flash 8. sOs 9. and 10. not important, but I guess maybe Trap and First?


1 inno
2 rain
3 maru
4 bomber
5 soulkey
6 classic
7 flash
8 hyun
9 whoever wins asus rog
10 revival




agreed except for 8-10. add sos, jangbi and taeja (only if he wins asus)
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 03 2013 12:20 GMT
#3785
On August 03 2013 21:17 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 21:14 StarStruck wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:54 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:52 StarStruck wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:48 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:47 StarStruck wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:41 bo1b wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:39 StarStruck wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:37 Zealously wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:35 StarStruck wrote:
[quote]

Don't think so? Go back and check yourself I was posting non-stop in those threads man and we did not have over 200k people watching SC2 only. Stop being a dingbat.



On August 03 2013 20:34 Zealously wrote:
[quote]

Not simultaneous viewers but I'm pretty sure there were more than 200k unique viewers on at different times



I don't know about you but I always talk in terms of concurrents not periods of time and it was not even close to that.

Mlg orlando had 180k+ with other games struggling to break 5k, before lol hit the mlg circuit. Sorry I was off by like 30k. Still ~10times higher then this.


I certainly don't recall that and I have several hundred posts in that thread. Are you using this as your guiding principle? I've written MLG off several times when they posted their numbers and oh what do you know I actually did do my research on it and posted in that thread too. The real number I found was over 160k.


That's great. Stop posting.


Why should I? I called the guy out for over-exaggerating on concurrent viewers for an event I watched intently and did actual research on. lmao

Doesn't hurt being right fellah. Glad my boys Trap, Mini and Classic pulled it off. Next time Stars!

He actually said "over 8 hours". Completely fair to assume 200k different viewers tuned in over 8 hours.

anyway, is this really worth popping a vein over. You're making this a much bigger deal than it is and you started it all out by acting all mean n shit.


It's a bullshit statistic and I'll take Concurrent Viewers over Total Views any day of the week. Don't believe me? Ask the guys and ladies at Twitch what they value more. I find it very ironic that you say I'm overreacting when time and time again I see folks complain about the viewership, audience and other rubbish they have no control over. I find it very sad that the community resorts to that crap and it happens way too often. If I can cut that crap down to a smaller amount then I'll consider it a job well done.

I don't care either way. Obsessing about viewer counts is dumb. Sure people whine about it, but why you've taken it upon yourself to "educate" everyone in what matters and what doesn't I don't get. You yelling at people on TL wont make less people whine about lack of viewers or inflated viewer numbers or "oh the good old days when we had 200k viewers".


Considering I've already got a few people to stop doing it on these forums when I spoke with them? It's not much, but hey every little counts man. Not saying I'm going to change everyone's posting habits but if I can get through to a few people with my brash methods I'm going to do what I can to clean this place up a little.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 03 2013 12:20 GMT
#3786
On August 03 2013 21:19 shadymmj wrote:
they really should combine the leagues. at least the we had 2 great games tonight, on the other hand the starleague has been mostly a waste of time,,.

theirs been lots of good games in wcs kr.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
August 03 2013 12:20 GMT
#3787
On August 03 2013 21:19 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 21:18 Dodgin wrote:
On August 03 2013 21:18 dizzy101 wrote:
Extremely low viewer count!

Like, it was like 4-5k most of the time. Why nobody watching this stuff?


more like 20k, what numbers were you looking at?

also, youtube


And Koren tv numbers
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
August 03 2013 12:20 GMT
#3788
Korean casters literally jumping on their seat to commentate. So much passion!
Ensue
Profile Joined March 2013
United States144 Posts
August 03 2013 12:20 GMT
#3789
WINnoVation Regardless, I loved watching Soulkey vs. Innovation :D
And of course, congrats to STX Soul
“Toast cannot be explained by any rational means. Toast is me. I am toast.” —Margaret Atwood, Oryx and Crake
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 03 2013 12:20 GMT
#3790
On August 03 2013 21:19 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 21:17 bertu wrote:
On August 03 2013 21:02 Ammanas wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:59 Marchinko wrote:
Would love to see the August power rank...


Not hard to guess...

1. Inno 2. SK 3. Rain 4. Bomber 5. Maru + Show Spoiler +
6. Hyun 7. Flash 8. sOs 9. and 10. not important, but I guess maybe Trap and First?


1 inno
2 rain
3 maru
4 bomber
5 soulkey
6 classic
7 flash
8 hyun
9 whoever wins asus rog
10 revival




agreed except for 8-10. add sos, jangbi and taeja (only if he wins asus)


jangbi didnt play any games in july though
munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
August 03 2013 12:20 GMT
#3791
On August 03 2013 21:19 shadymmj wrote:
they really should combine the leagues. at least the we had 2 great games tonight, on the other hand the starleague has been mostly a waste of time,,.
Does anybody know if there's a way to put some pressure on esf and kespa to make this happen. I'd hate to see the current situation continue for another year.
THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
August 03 2013 12:21 GMT
#3792
Great final shots!!
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10067 Posts
August 03 2013 12:21 GMT
#3793
On August 03 2013 21:20 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 21:19 TT1 wrote:
On August 03 2013 21:17 bertu wrote:
On August 03 2013 21:02 Ammanas wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:59 Marchinko wrote:
Would love to see the August power rank...


Not hard to guess...

1. Inno 2. SK 3. Rain 4. Bomber 5. Maru + Show Spoiler +
6. Hyun 7. Flash 8. sOs 9. and 10. not important, but I guess maybe Trap and First?


1 inno
2 rain
3 maru
4 bomber
5 soulkey
6 classic
7 flash
8 hyun
9 whoever wins asus rog
10 revival




agreed except for 8-10. add sos, jangbi and taeja (only if he wins asus)


jangbi didnt play any games in july though


doesnt matter if were basing this off of skill jangbi still deserves to be in the top 10
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
August 03 2013 12:22 GMT
#3794
that very last shot with Calm holding the trophy and wondering. So beautiful
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 03 2013 12:22 GMT
#3795
On August 03 2013 21:20 munchmunch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 21:19 shadymmj wrote:
they really should combine the leagues. at least the we had 2 great games tonight, on the other hand the starleague has been mostly a waste of time,,.
Does anybody know if there's a way to put some pressure on esf and kespa to make this happen. I'd hate to see the current situation continue for another year.

Indeed, they have to do it for next year already. They are taking too long with this and it's not helping either party, I think.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
August 03 2013 12:22 GMT
#3796
Congratz STX! You deserve it and we are all glad that the next season is more or less confirmed by the Kespa officials and STX sponsorship confirmed by STX head himself.

Also want to say - thanks SNM and Whiplash for casting - even though the beginnings were rough, I think they have managed to improve to the point that in finals they were very solid and enjoyable casters.

And as a personal remark, I want to thank all the people that contributed to BW Liquipedia. Thanks to you, I have fallen in love with Proleague and Samsung KHAN even though this was the first Proleague season I have followed. Now it is my favorite league by far and I cannot wait for the next season! So see you all on the opening day of the next season!
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
August 03 2013 12:23 GMT
#3797
On August 03 2013 21:20 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 21:17 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 03 2013 21:14 StarStruck wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:54 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:52 StarStruck wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:48 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:47 StarStruck wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:41 bo1b wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:39 StarStruck wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:37 Zealously wrote:
[quote]


[quote]


I don't know about you but I always talk in terms of concurrents not periods of time and it was not even close to that.

Mlg orlando had 180k+ with other games struggling to break 5k, before lol hit the mlg circuit. Sorry I was off by like 30k. Still ~10times higher then this.


I certainly don't recall that and I have several hundred posts in that thread. Are you using this as your guiding principle? I've written MLG off several times when they posted their numbers and oh what do you know I actually did do my research on it and posted in that thread too. The real number I found was over 160k.


That's great. Stop posting.


Why should I? I called the guy out for over-exaggerating on concurrent viewers for an event I watched intently and did actual research on. lmao

Doesn't hurt being right fellah. Glad my boys Trap, Mini and Classic pulled it off. Next time Stars!

He actually said "over 8 hours". Completely fair to assume 200k different viewers tuned in over 8 hours.

anyway, is this really worth popping a vein over. You're making this a much bigger deal than it is and you started it all out by acting all mean n shit.


It's a bullshit statistic and I'll take Concurrent Viewers over Total Views any day of the week. Don't believe me? Ask the guys and ladies at Twitch what they value more. I find it very ironic that you say I'm overreacting when time and time again I see folks complain about the viewership, audience and other rubbish they have no control over. I find it very sad that the community resorts to that crap and it happens way too often. If I can cut that crap down to a smaller amount then I'll consider it a job well done.

I don't care either way. Obsessing about viewer counts is dumb. Sure people whine about it, but why you've taken it upon yourself to "educate" everyone in what matters and what doesn't I don't get. You yelling at people on TL wont make less people whine about lack of viewers or inflated viewer numbers or "oh the good old days when we had 200k viewers".


Considering I've already got a few people to stop doing it on these forums when I spoke with them? It's not much, but hey every little counts man. Not saying I'm going to change everyone's posting habits but if I can get through to a few people with my brash methods I'm going to do what I can to clean this place up a little.

+1.
Good guy StarStruck doing his part. ♥ Never stop putting in Eff0rt, because someone has to!
ZerO - FantaSy - Calm - Nal_rA - Jaedong - NaDa - EffOrt - Bisu - by.hero - StarDust - Welmu - Nerchio - Supernova - Solar - Squirtle - LosirA - Grubby - IntoTheRainbow - Golden... ~~~ Incredible Miracle and Woongjin Stars 화이팅!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 03 2013 12:23 GMT
#3798
On August 03 2013 21:21 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 21:20 Dodgin wrote:
On August 03 2013 21:19 TT1 wrote:
On August 03 2013 21:17 bertu wrote:
On August 03 2013 21:02 Ammanas wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:59 Marchinko wrote:
Would love to see the August power rank...


Not hard to guess...

1. Inno 2. SK 3. Rain 4. Bomber 5. Maru + Show Spoiler +
6. Hyun 7. Flash 8. sOs 9. and 10. not important, but I guess maybe Trap and First?


1 inno
2 rain
3 maru
4 bomber
5 soulkey
6 classic
7 flash
8 hyun
9 whoever wins asus rog
10 revival




agreed except for 8-10. add sos, jangbi and taeja (only if he wins asus)


jangbi didnt play any games in july though


doesnt matter if were basing this off of skill jangbi still deserves to be in the top 10


in power rank they usually only give players who had a bad month or played no games a high rank if they're flash
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
August 03 2013 12:24 GMT
#3799
gonna miss proleague for the next few months, guys
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-03 12:25:51
August 03 2013 12:25 GMT
#3800
On August 03 2013 21:19 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 21:17 bertu wrote:
On August 03 2013 21:02 Ammanas wrote:
On August 03 2013 20:59 Marchinko wrote:
Would love to see the August power rank...


Not hard to guess...

1. Inno 2. SK 3. Rain 4. Bomber 5. Maru + Show Spoiler +
6. Hyun 7. Flash 8. sOs 9. and 10. not important, but I guess maybe Trap and First?


1 inno
2 rain
3 maru
4 bomber
5 soulkey
6 classic
7 flash
8 hyun
9 whoever wins asus rog
10 revival




agreed except for 8-10. add sos, jangbi and taeja (only if he wins asus)


9 whoever wins asus rog
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Prev 1 188 189 190 191 192 200 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
GSL
11:00
2026 GSTL: Wild Card
IntoTheiNu 637
CranKy Ducklings SOOP71
Classic 60
ByuN (SOOP) 58
Rex33
Solar (SOOP)8
LiquipediaDiscussion
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro16, Group D
Snow vs Shinee
Shine vs EffOrt
Afreeca ASL 14556
StarCastTV_EN424
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Classic 60
ByuN (SOOP) 58
Rex 33
Solar (SOOP) 8
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 15019
Bisu 6718
Jaedong 3281
Leta 1386
BeSt 1381
Horang2 947
Shine 754
Mini 503
Pusan 483
Light 466
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 402
Soulkey 361
Hyun 358
ZerO 278
Zeus 239
Stork 181
firebathero 173
Larva 173
actioN 172
Rush 143
Barracks 125
ggaemo 123
ToSsGirL 67
PianO 60
JYJ 53
Sea.KH 40
Yoon 33
soO 31
Killer 28
Bale 27
sSak 27
Terrorterran 26
Sexy 20
SilentControl 17
HiyA 15
Sacsri 11
Hm[arnc] 11
sorry 11
scan(afreeca) 9
Noble 8
JulyZerg 8
Icarus 5
Britney 0
Dota 2
Dendi1191
League of Legends
Reynor50
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1577
byalli1065
zeus805
x6flipin658
edward49
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King101
Other Games
Grubby7801
singsing2440
Lowko346
Pyrionflax160
Liquid`LucifroN127
DeMusliM118
hiko114
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick862
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 273
Other Games
BasetradeTV47
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 11
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 79
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 16
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1030
• WagamamaTV563
League of Legends
• Jankos2309
• TFBlade725
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
11h 42m
The PondCast
21h 42m
Kung Fu Cup
22h 42m
Replay Cast
1d 11h
KCM Race Survival
1d 21h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
GSL
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL
4 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
5 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-14
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.