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United States97276 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/shiroiusagi/wcs/wcs_na_lr.jpg) Wednesday, Jul 17 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_2_America/Premier TL Community Preview: + Show Spoiler +For Freedom, Democracy and other American Thingsby DarkLordOlli - They Grow Up So FastWCS America continues tonight with another group of Americans (purely US ones this time) defending their home against the Korean invasion. FXO.  Neeb is not wasting any time to stand and fight as the only 15 year old truck takes on one of the big names to start his Premier League career. His road through Challenger League began with the knocking out of EG.HuK in the first round but was quickly followed by a defeat at the hands of ROOT.PucK. Neeb was then put into a group with two dropdowns from the previous Premier League season and... Liquid'Taeja. Unsurprisingly Taeja finished first in the group but Neeb nevertheless made it through in second place by beating both Maker and hellokitty without dropping another map, securing his place in the big leagues. The task of welcoming the youngster falls to a seasoned veteran of SC2, Axiom's  Alicia. The Korean protoss may still be recovering from being cursed over and over by Artosis but has definitely picked up a lot of momentum in HotS, making it to the Ro8 of WCS America Season 1 only losing to the eventual champion, Liquid'HerO, and then impressively finishing first in his group at the Global Finals over Mvp, Ryung and KangHoSira. Most recently (earlier today in fact), Alicia all killed a Hyun-and-Center-less lineup of Quantic Gaming. Now, that string of solid performances by Alicia who was always known for good PvT coupled with Neeb's self proclaimed weakness in the matchup does favor the Korean protoss but if Life can win GSL at the age of 15, why shouldn't Neeb be able to overthrow a single player? - A Good Match for HipstersThe second match of the night will feature (almost) two Americans. With Apocalypse having been on Quantic for a long time now and never really appearing in Korea I think it's safe to say he belongs to the US now. The former Korean Terran will be going up against the man with probably the most AMERICAN name ever - Chad M. Jones, ROOT Gaming's Minigun. Both of these players are quite popular hipster picks, with both showing flashes of brilliance every now and then but never doing so consistently enough to have a big impact on the scene. Apocalypse is mostly known for well thought out, crazy 1-2 base builds which never seem to just get stomped completely. Whether he wins or loses, his games are always messy and there's lots of blood or mechanical pieces and that blue robot blood stuff splashed everywhere. Apocalypse featured in Premier League last season but was knocked out in the first group stage only to 2-0 the Chinese protoss Top and climb straight back up. Minigun had a different rise to SC2 fame. Originally known for featuring heavily on Destiny's stream where his classy middle name was created, he then went on to gain a lot of viewers for himself, entertaining them with casual commentary as well as cute and equally annoying forcefield and blink plays and - dare I say it with love? - gimmicks. Don't write him off as another one of those goddamn allin protoss players though as Minigun is very much so capable of drawing games out and is also known for having strong defensive capabilities against crazy all ins. Especially during the HotS beta, Minigun was one of the highest ranked foreign protoss players, often even the only foreigner in the top 10 among only Koreans. After a recent break from attending tournaments (explained in this blog), Minigun attended MLG Anaheim where he looked impressive in his first three rounds but then drew a very short straw running into Liquid'HerO and teammate ROOTYugiOh, losing 0-2 to both. This one will be a good one for hipsters. Both players are popular underdog picks so at least one hipster-fraction will be happy after this series, being able to yell "I told you he was good!" and/or post the same thing in live report threads. - Predictions!This may not come as a surprise to you but Alicia should make it out of this group. I did however say the same thing about Liquid'HerO yesterday, experiencing the writers' curse on my first attempt, so take these with a grain of salt. I do however think that Alicia's strong PvT will carry him to a convincing win against Neeb. His next opponent might be trickier as Apocalypse just does weird things sometimes and Minigun plays Protoss and seems sharp at the mirror, making it through his Challenger League group solely on PvP skills. Still, Alicia should be favored against both as well. Who takes the second spot? Apocalypse is somewhat Korean so that's always a good argument to go with him but it might depend on whether or not he can overcome Minigun in his first match. Alicia > Neeb Apocalypse < MinigunAlicia > Minigun Neeb < ApocalypseMinigun < Apocalypse
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r9ZH0.png) Casters: Blizzard & NASL ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/7/7f/Twitch_ico.png) WCS America
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6wl40.png) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/teams/icons/265.png) Alicia vs. ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/teams/icons/109.png) NeebStarting map: Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/teams/icons/184.png) Apocalypse vs. ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/teams/icons/57.png) MinigunStarting map: Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3wcCS.png) + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [Alicia vs. Neeb] +Poll: Recommend Alicia vs Neeb Game 1?Yes (3) 43% No (3) 43% If you have time (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Alicia vs Neeb Game 1? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Alicia vs Neeb Game 2?No (6) 86% If you have time (1) 14% Yes (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Alicia vs Neeb Game 2? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Alicia vs Neeb Game 3?No (4) 44% Yes (3) 33% If you have time (2) 22% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Alicia vs Neeb Game 3? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Apocalypse vs Minigun game 1?No (2) 67% Yes (1) 33% If you have time (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Apocalypse vs Minigun game 1? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Apocalypse vs Minigun game 2?Yes (1) 33% No (1) 33% If you have time (1) 33% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Apocalypse vs Minigun game 2? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Apocalypse vs Minigun game 3?No (3) 60% Yes (1) 20% If you have time (1) 20% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend Apocalypse vs Minigun game 3? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match game 1?No (2) 67% If you have time (1) 33% Yes (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match game 1? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match game 2?If you have time (2) 67% Yes (1) 33% No (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match game 2? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match game 3?Yes (4) 100% No (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match game 3? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match game 1?No (5) 50% Yes (3) 30% If you have time (2) 20% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match game 1? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match game 2?Yes (1) 33% No (1) 33% If you have time (1) 33% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match game 2? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Losers' Match game 3?Yes (2) 50% No (1) 25% If you have time (1) 25% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match game 3? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Final Match game 1?Yes (3) 50% If you have time (2) 33% No (1) 17% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match game 1? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Final Match game 2?Yes (14) 88% No (2) 13% If you have time (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match game 2? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Final Match game 3?Yes (8) 73% No (2) 18% If you have time (1) 9% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match game 3? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
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United States97276 Posts
Poll: Head?Alicia & Apocalypse (16) 76% Alicia & Neeb (3) 14% Alicia & Minigun (2) 10% Neeb & Apocalypse (0) 0% Neeb & Minigun (0) 0% Apocalypse & Minigun (0) 0% 21 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): Alicia & Neeb
(Vote): Alicia & Apocalypse
(Vote): Alicia & Minigun
(Vote): Neeb & Apocalypse
(Vote): Neeb & Minigun
(Vote): Apocalypse & Minigun
Poll: Heart?Alicia & Minigun (8) 40% Neeb & Minigun (5) 25% Alicia & Neeb (3) 15% Alicia & Apocalypse (2) 10% Neeb & Apocalypse (1) 5% Apocalypse & Minigun (1) 5% 20 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): Alicia & Neeb
(Vote): Alicia & Apocalypse
(Vote): Alicia & Minigun
(Vote): Neeb & Apocalypse
(Vote): Neeb & Minigun
(Vote): Apocalypse & Minigun
Poll: Do you count SeleCT qualifying as a Korean or Foreigner?Foreigner (26) 68% Korean (12) 32% 38 total votes Your vote: Do you count SeleCT qualifying as a Korean or Foreigner? (Vote): Korean
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Austria24417 Posts
Here we gooooooooooooooooo
+ Show Spoiler +For Freedom, Democracy and other American Things- They Grow Up So FastWCS America continues tonight with another group of Americans (purely US ones this time) defending their home against the Korean invasion. FXO. Neeb is not wasting any time to stand and fight as the only 15 year old truck takes on one of the big names to start his Premier League career. His road through Challenger League began with the knocking out of EG.HuK in the first round but was quickly followed by a defeat at the hands of ROOT.PucK. Neeb was then put into a group with two dropdowns from the previous Premier League season and... Liquid'Taeja. Unsurprisingly Taeja finished first in the group but Neeb nevertheless made it through in second place by beating both Maker and hellokitty without dropping another map, securing his place in the big leagues. The task of welcoming the youngster falls to a seasoned veteran of SC2, Axiom's Alicia. The Korean protoss may still be recovering from being cursed over and over by Artosis but has definitely picked up a lot of momentum in HotS, making it to the Ro8 of WCS America Season 1 only losing to the eventual champion, Liquid'HerO, and then impressively finishing first in his group at the Global Finals over Mvp, Ryung and KangHoSira. Most recently (earlier today in fact), Alicia all killed a Hyun-and-Center-less lineup of Quantic Gaming. Now, that string of solid performances by Alicia who was always known for good PvT coupled with Neeb's self proclaimed weakness in the matchup does favor the Korean protoss but if Life can win GSL at the age of 15, why shouldn't Neeb be able to overthrow a single player? - A Good Match for HipstersThe second match of the night will feature (almost) two Americans. With Apocalypse having been on Quantic for a long time now and never really appearing in Korea I think it's safe to say he belongs to the US now. The former Korean Terran will be going up against the man with probably the most AMERICAN name ever - Chad M. Jones, ROOT Gaming's Minigun. Both of these players are quite popular hipster picks, with both showing flashes of brilliance every now and then but never doing so consistently enough to have a big impact on the scene. Apocalypse is mostly known for well thought out, crazy 1-2 base builds which never seem to just get stomped completely. Whether he wins or loses, his games are always messy and there's lots of blood or mechanical pieces and that blue robot blood stuff splashed everywhere. Apocalypse featured in Premier League last season but was knocked out in the first group stage only to 2-0 the Chinese protoss Top and climb straight back up. Minigun had a different rise to SC2 fame. Originally known for featuring heavily on Destiny's stream where his classy middle name was created, he then went on to gain a lot of viewers for himself, entertaining them with casual commentary as well as cute and equally annoying forcefield and blink plays and - dare I say it with love? - gimmicks. Don't write him off as another one of those goddamn allin protoss players though as Minigun is very much so capable of drawing games out and is also known for having strong defensive capabilities against crazy all ins. Especially during the HotS beta, Minigun was one of the highest ranked foreign protoss players, often even the only foreigner in the top 10 among only Koreans. After a recent break from attending tournaments (explained in this blog), Minigun attended MLG Anaheim where he looked impressive in his first three rounds but then drew a very short straw running into Liquid'HerO and teammate ROOTYugiOh, losing 0-2 to both. This one will be a good one for hipsters. Both players are popular underdog picks so at least one hipster-fraction will be happy after this series, being able to yell "I told you he was good!" and/or post the same thing in live report threads. - Predictions!This may not come as a surprise to you but Alicia should make it out of this group. I did however say the same thing about Liquid'HerO yesterday, experiencing the writers' curse on my first attempt, so take these with a grain of salt. I do however think that Alicia's strong PvT will carry him to a convincing win against Neeb. His next opponent might be trickier as Apocalypse just does weird things sometimes and Minigun plays Protoss and seems sharp at the mirror, making it through his Challenger League group solely on PvP skills. Still, Alicia should be favored against both as well. Who takes the third spot? Apocalypse is somewhat Korean so that's always a good argument to go with him but it might depend on whether or not he can overcome Minigun in his first match. Alicia > Neeb Apocalypse < MinigunAlicia > Minigun Neeb < ApocalypseMinigun < Apocalypse
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United States97276 Posts
Woo hype! Come on guys 
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I guess gogo Alicia and Neeb??? Group is a little more difficult than usual to hype, though DLO did a good job 
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Is neeb any good? Don't think I've seen any of his games
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Probably the weakest group in WCS America.
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Norway25712 Posts
GOGO NEEB! Wreck these scrubs!
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this guy voice puts me to sleep, I guess the fact that its 40 degrees doesnt help.
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United States97276 Posts
On July 18 2013 07:05 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00  Alicia spawns in the bottom right  Neeb spawns in the bottom left
1:40
rax first for Neeb
gateway first for Alicia
2:00
gas for Alicia
gas for Neeb
cybernetics core for Alicia
3:00
zealot for Alicia
factory for Neeb
mothership core for Alicia
reactor for Neeb
4:00
Nexus for Alicia
2nd gas for Alicia
CC on the high ground for Neeb
Alicia sending his mothership core across the map
reactored hellions started for Neeb
5:00
Robo for Alicia
Starport for Neeb
marines deny the mothership core from scouting the most of the main
forge for Alicia
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On July 18 2013 06:41 Provocateur wrote:
Is neeb any good? Don't think I've seen any of his games
Firetruck Terran hits you hard + Show Spoiler +nah, but he can be fun to watch with good aggression
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United States97276 Posts
On July 18 2013 07:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 07:05 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Alicia spawns in the bottom right Neeb spawns in the bottom left 1:40 rax first for Neeb gateway first for Alicia 2:00 gas for Alicia gas for Neeb cybernetics core for Alicia 3:00 zealot for Alicia factory for Neeb mothership core for Alicia reactor for Neeb 4:00 Nexus for Alicia 2nd gas for Alicia CC on the high ground for Neeb Alicia sending his mothership core across the map reactored hellions started for Neeb 5:00 Robo for Alicia Starport for Neeb marines deny the mothership core from scouting the most of the main forge for Alicia
6:00
Medivac for Neeb
observer for Alicia
hellions drive into the natural of Alicia but are denied by photon overcharge
cannon for Alicia
7:00 49 vs 54
+1 armor for Alicia
another gate for Alicia
hellion drop in the main of Alicia but it's cleaned up by stalkers and the cannon
3 probes were illed
8:00 51 vs 55
Robo bay for Alicia
2 more rax for Neeb
Alicia is 10 workers ahead
immortal started for Alicia
ebay for Neeb
9:00 67 vs 67
hellion marine drop in the main of Alicia
photon overcharge on the main nexus
hellion runby into the natural of Alicia
Alicia cleans up both attacks with 4 more workers killed
Colossus started for Alicia
combat shields for Neeb
stim for Neeb
another gate for Alicia
3rd CC for neeb
10:00 65 vs 57
2nd forge for Alicia
twilight council for Alicia
Marauder production for Neeb
Neeb throwing up 2 bunkers at the front
Alicia moving across the map to poke with a few staers
Warp prism for Alicia
+1 attack for Neeb
+2 armor for Alicia
+1 attack for Alicia
2 more gates for Alicia
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United States97276 Posts
On July 18 2013 07:12 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 07:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 07:05 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Alicia spawns in the bottom right Neeb spawns in the bottom left 1:40 rax first for Neeb gateway first for Alicia 2:00 gas for Alicia gas for Neeb cybernetics core for Alicia 3:00 zealot for Alicia factory for Neeb mothership core for Alicia reactor for Neeb 4:00 Nexus for Alicia 2nd gas for Alicia CC on the high ground for Neeb Alicia sending his mothership core across the map reactored hellions started for Neeb 5:00 Robo for Alicia Starport for Neeb marines deny the mothership core from scouting the most of the main forge for Alicia 6:00 Medivac for Neeb observer for Alicia hellions drive into the natural of Alicia but are denied by photon overcharge cannon for Alicia 7:00 49 vs 54 +1 armor for Alicia another gate for Alicia hellion drop in the main of Alicia but it's cleaned up by stalkers and the cannon 3 probes were illed 8:00 51 vs 55 Robo bay for Alicia 2 more rax for Neeb Alicia is 10 workers ahead immortal started for Alicia ebay for Neeb 9:00 67 vs 67 hellion marine drop in the main of Alicia photon overcharge on the main nexus hellion runby into the natural of Alicia Alicia cleans up both attacks with 4 more workers killed Colossus started for Alicia combat shields for Neeb stim for Neeb another gate for Alicia 3rd CC for neeb 10:00 65 vs 57 2nd forge for Alicia twilight council for Alicia Marauder production for Neeb Neeb throwing up 2 bunkers at the front Alicia moving across the map to poke with a few staers Warp prism for Alicia +1 attack for Neeb +2 armor for Alicia +1 attack for Alicia 2 more gates for Alicia
11:00 83 vs 82
charge research started for Alicia
2 more rax for Neeb
Templar archives for Alicia
concussive shells for Neeb
bunkers salvaged for Neeb
12:00 100 vs 104
warp prism drops a few zealots in the main of Neeb
Neeb moving across the map with his main army
+1 armor for Neeb
2 more rax for Neeb
3rd base for Alicia
Neeb lands his 3rd base
zealots in Neeb's main are cleaned up
13:00 94 vs 99
Neeb pokes up the natural ramp of Alicia but sees the colossus and backs off
Alicia switched back to building immortals after 1 colossus
Army of Neeb forces a cancel on Alicia's 3rd
+2 attack for Alicia
3 more gates for Alicia
14:00 104 vs 125
2nd starport for Neeb
+3 armor for Alicia
viking production for Neeb
3rd base restarted for Alicia
Alicia chasing Neeb's army in the middle of the map
15:00 129 vs 156
bio force of neeb forces a cancel on Alicia's 3rd
Neeb sends those forces into Alicia's natural
Alicia attacking at the 3rd of Neeb
Neeb engages at his 3rd
zealots in the natural of Neeb kill a ton of scvs
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Russian Federation25 Posts
Soon all Koreans will come to America for free wins, so WCS NA will become even harder then GSL. And then none of the Koreans will left in Korea, Americans need to fly over and capture GSL!
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cmon alicia. wreck the foreigner
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Neeb eating storms like a MAN!
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United States97276 Posts
On July 18 2013 07:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 07:12 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 07:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 07:05 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Alicia spawns in the bottom right Neeb spawns in the bottom left 1:40 rax first for Neeb gateway first for Alicia 2:00 gas for Alicia gas for Neeb cybernetics core for Alicia 3:00 zealot for Alicia factory for Neeb mothership core for Alicia reactor for Neeb 4:00 Nexus for Alicia 2nd gas for Alicia CC on the high ground for Neeb Alicia sending his mothership core across the map reactored hellions started for Neeb 5:00 Robo for Alicia Starport for Neeb marines deny the mothership core from scouting the most of the main forge for Alicia 6:00 Medivac for Neeb observer for Alicia hellions drive into the natural of Alicia but are denied by photon overcharge cannon for Alicia 7:00 49 vs 54 +1 armor for Alicia another gate for Alicia hellion drop in the main of Alicia but it's cleaned up by stalkers and the cannon 3 probes were illed 8:00 51 vs 55 Robo bay for Alicia 2 more rax for Neeb Alicia is 10 workers ahead immortal started for Alicia ebay for Neeb 9:00 67 vs 67 hellion marine drop in the main of Alicia photon overcharge on the main nexus hellion runby into the natural of Alicia Alicia cleans up both attacks with 4 more workers killed Colossus started for Alicia combat shields for Neeb stim for Neeb another gate for Alicia 3rd CC for neeb 10:00 65 vs 57 2nd forge for Alicia twilight council for Alicia Marauder production for Neeb Neeb throwing up 2 bunkers at the front Alicia moving across the map to poke with a few staers Warp prism for Alicia +1 attack for Neeb +2 armor for Alicia +1 attack for Alicia 2 more gates for Alicia 11:00 83 vs 82 charge research started for Alicia 2 more rax for Neeb Templar archives for Alicia concussive shells for Neeb bunkers salvaged for Neeb 12:00 100 vs 104 warp prism drops a few zealots in the main of Neeb Neeb moving across the map with his main army +1 armor for Neeb 2 more rax for Neeb 3rd base for Alicia Neeb lands his 3rd base zealots in Neeb's main are cleaned up 13:00 94 vs 99 Neeb pokes up the natural ramp of Alicia but sees the colossus and backs off Alicia switched back to building immortals after 1 colossus Army of Neeb forces a cancel on Alicia's 3rd +2 attack for Alicia 3 more gates for Alicia 14:00 104 vs 125 2nd starport for Neeb +3 armor for Alicia viking production for Neeb 3rd base restarted for Alicia Alicia chasing Neeb's army in the middle of the map 15:00 129 vs 156 bio force of neeb forces a cancel on Alicia's 3rd Neeb sends those forces into Alicia's natural Alicia attacking at the 3rd of Neeb Neeb engages at his 3rd zealots in the natural of Neeb kill a ton of scvs
16:00 87 vs 83
Neeb is down to 22 scvs
warp prism warping in zealots in Neeb's main
photon overcharge on the natural of Alicia pushes Neeb back
colossus production restarted for Alicia
Storm research started for Alicia
17:00 85 vs 91
3rd base restarted for Alicia
Neeb sending his army across the map
18:00 103 vs 116
Alicia gets in a defensive position at his 3rd
Neeb pulls a bunch of his scvs and starts sending them across the amp
Alicia has at least 4 templar
19:00 126 vs 139
armies engage in the middle of the map
Alicia gets some storms on the army of Neeb
Neeb regroups and attacks
storm hits the whole army of Neeb
Alicia engages the army with his zealots
Neeb is losing everything
20:00 130 vs 49
Neeb ggs!
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Poll: Recommend Alicia vs Neeb Game 1?Yes (3) 43% No (3) 43% If you have time (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Alicia vs Neeb Game 1? (Vote): Yes
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Even without those storms Neeb probably wouldn't have been able to overcome a 4 upgrade deficit
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neeb split too much of his army to kill alicia's 3rd
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Yeah, it was noticeably slower.
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United States97276 Posts
On July 18 2013 07:24 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Alicia spawns in the top left Neeb spawns in the bottom right
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gas first for Neeb
gateway first for Alicia
gas for Alicia
2:00
proxy rax from Neeb in the top right of the map
probe scout from Alicia
cybernetics core for Alicia
zealot for Alicia
Alicia sees gas and no rax in base
3:00
factory for Neeb proxied in the top right
reactor for Neeb
2nd gas for Alicia
4:00
MSC for Alicia
double widow mines for neeb
reaper for Neeb
pylon in the natural of Neeb
2 more gates for Alicia
robo for Alicia
5:00
reactored hellions for Neeb after his first 2 widow mines
2nd rax for Neeb
widow mines kill the MSC of Alicia
CC on the high ground for Neeb
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United States97276 Posts
On July 18 2013 07:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 07:24 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Alicia spawns in the top left Neeb spawns in the bottom right 1:30 gas first for Neeb gateway first for Alicia gas for Alicia 2:00 proxy rax from Neeb in the top right of the map probe scout from Alicia cybernetics core for Alicia zealot for Alicia Alicia sees gas and no rax in base 3:00 factory for Neeb proxied in the top right reactor for Neeb 2nd gas for Alicia 4:00 MSC for Alicia double widow mines for neeb reaper for Neeb pylon in the natural of Neeb 2 more gates for Alicia robo for Alicia 5:00 reactored hellions for Neeb after his first 2 widow mines 2nd rax for Neeb widow mines kill the MSC of Alicia CC on the high ground for Neeb
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3 stalkers warped in at the natural of Neeb start attacking Neeb's main
scvs are pulled to defend
hellions return home to help fight
zealots warped in for Alicia
Neeb tries to hold position on his ramp with scvs
7:00 44 vs 28
Neeb is starting to lose his hellions to stalkers
more stalkers being warped in
bunker in the main of Neeb doesnt finish
Neeb losing all of his scvs to stalkers
hellions move into the main of Alicia
Neeb ggs!
Alicia wins 2-0!
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Poll: Recommend Alicia vs Neeb Game 2?No (6) 86% If you have time (1) 14% Yes (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Alicia vs Neeb Game 2? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Alicia vs Neeb Game 3?No (4) 44% Yes (3) 33% If you have time (2) 22% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Alicia vs Neeb Game 3? (Vote): Yes
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Alicia: "Hey, your build looks cute. Let me crush it."
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Oh well. Next! Apoc gonna wreck havoc.
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This is gonna be over so soon.
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Nice series Alicia, quick and effective
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On July 18 2013 07:30 Taipoka wrote:
no GG??
Are you watching it muted? They said that chat was disabled, so it didn't show, I think
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United States97276 Posts
Well that didnt go too well but maybe Minigun can beat Apocalypse this time
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On July 18 2013 07:33 AlternativeEgo wrote:Are you watching it muted? They said that chat was disabled, so it didn't show, I think
hahahahaha. Didn´t pay attention to casters.
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Vibe's baneling bust in game 1 vs scarlett should have been #1. Submitting a protest
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Haha, that drone save was cool (highlight #2)
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Holy hell, #1 I had not seen yet...
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haha #2 and #1 especially were great! awesome highlights. and good to hear kevin knocke's voice again, haha
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On July 18 2013 07:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Vibe's baneling bust in game 1 vs scarlett should have been #1. Submitting a protest
lol
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On July 18 2013 07:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Apocalypse spawns in the bottom left Minigun spawns in the bottom right
1:30
gas first for Apocalypse
Gateway first for Minigun
rax for Apocalypse
2:00
double gas for Minigun
Cybernetics core for Minigun
3:00
factory for Apocalypse
zealot for Minigun
4:00
MSC for Minigun
widow mine for Apocalypse
Starport for Apocalypse
reactor for Apocalypse
stargate for Minigun
hellion started for Apolcalypse after the 2nd widowmine
5:00
ebay for Apocalypse
medivac for Apocalypse
Nexus for Minigun
widow mine moving into the natural of Minigun
it burrows behind the mineral line outside of the nexus vision
oracle for Minigun
CC on the low ground for Apocalypse
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mine aoe doesnt kill an scv, once again casters showing sick game knowledge by claiming it does.
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On July 18 2013 07:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 07:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Apocalypse spawns in the bottom left Minigun spawns in the bottom right 1:30 gas first for Apocalypse Gateway first for Minigun rax for Apocalypse 2:00 double gas for Minigun Cybernetics core for Minigun 3:00 factory for Apocalypse zealot for Minigun 4:00 MSC for Minigun widow mine for Apocalypse Starport for Apocalypse reactor for Apocalypse stargate for Minigun hellion started for Apolcalypse after the 2nd widowmine 5:00 ebay for Apocalypse medivac for Apocalypse Nexus for Minigun widow mine moving into the natural of Minigun it burrows behind the mineral line outside of the nexus vision oracle for Minigun CC on the low ground for Apocalypse
6:00
Robo for Minigun
hellion marine drop in the main of Minigun
photon overcharge on the main nexus of Minigun and Apocalypse picks up and drops the natural
Minigun chases him away
7:00 43 vs 42
oracle in the main of Apocalypse
4 scvs are killed before it is chased away
widow mine in the natural of Minigun kills a probe
8:00 51 v 47
Oracle flies into the natural and kills a mule
banshee harassing the natural of Minigun
9:00 60 vs 55
Oracle trying to find an opening to harass but it is denied by marines
widow mine in the main takes out the oracle
Robo bay finishes for minigun
10:00 69 vs 68
Extended thermal lance research started for Minigun
Colossus production started for Minigun
phoenix for Minigun
+1 attack half way done for Apocalypse
combat shields for Apocalypse
stim half way done for Apocalypse
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Apoc is so careful. Drop pokes here and there.
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On July 18 2013 07:49 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 07:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 07:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Apocalypse spawns in the bottom left Minigun spawns in the bottom right 1:30 gas first for Apocalypse Gateway first for Minigun rax for Apocalypse 2:00 double gas for Minigun Cybernetics core for Minigun 3:00 factory for Apocalypse zealot for Minigun 4:00 MSC for Minigun widow mine for Apocalypse Starport for Apocalypse reactor for Apocalypse stargate for Minigun hellion started for Apolcalypse after the 2nd widowmine 5:00 ebay for Apocalypse medivac for Apocalypse Nexus for Minigun widow mine moving into the natural of Minigun it burrows behind the mineral line outside of the nexus vision oracle for Minigun CC on the low ground for Apocalypse 6:00 Robo for Minigun hellion marine drop in the main of Minigun photon overcharge on the main nexus of Minigun and Apocalypse picks up and drops the natural Minigun chases him away 7:00 43 vs 42 oracle in the main of Apocalypse 4 scvs are killed before it is chased away widow mine in the natural of Minigun kills a probe 8:00 51 v 47 Oracle flies into the natural and kills a mule banshee harassing the natural of Minigun 9:00 60 vs 55 Oracle trying to find an opening to harass but it is denied by marines widow mine in the main takes out the oracle Robo bay finishes for minigun 10:00 69 vs 68 Extended thermal lance research started for Minigun Colossus production started for Minigun phoenix for Minigun +1 attack half way done for Apocalypse combat shields for Apocalypse stim half way done for Apocalypse
11:00 80 vs 84
Apocalypse drops his whole army in the main of Minigun but retreats when he sees Minigun's army
banshee of apocalypse is killed off
2nd starport for Apocalypse
2 more rax for Apocalypse
12:00 91 vs 97
3rd base for Minigun
viking production started for Apocalypse
13:00 102 vs 114
+1 armor started for Apocalypse
2 more gates for Minigun
Minigun still making phoenixes
forge for Minigun
Apocalypse moving across the map
3rd colossus is out for Minigun
14:00 118 vs 132
concussive shells for Apocalypse
Minigun putting up cannons at his bases
2nd forge for Minigun
+1 armor for Minigun
15:00 146 vs 154
Apocalypse regroups his army and starts pushing across the map
floating factory being attacked by phoenixes
scvs being pulled by apocalypse
+1 attack for Minigun
twilight council for Minigun
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I really dislike Apoc's play, never been a fan.
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On July 18 2013 07:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 07:49 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 07:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 07:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Apocalypse spawns in the bottom left Minigun spawns in the bottom right 1:30 gas first for Apocalypse Gateway first for Minigun rax for Apocalypse 2:00 double gas for Minigun Cybernetics core for Minigun 3:00 factory for Apocalypse zealot for Minigun 4:00 MSC for Minigun widow mine for Apocalypse Starport for Apocalypse reactor for Apocalypse stargate for Minigun hellion started for Apolcalypse after the 2nd widowmine 5:00 ebay for Apocalypse medivac for Apocalypse Nexus for Minigun widow mine moving into the natural of Minigun it burrows behind the mineral line outside of the nexus vision oracle for Minigun CC on the low ground for Apocalypse 6:00 Robo for Minigun hellion marine drop in the main of Minigun photon overcharge on the main nexus of Minigun and Apocalypse picks up and drops the natural Minigun chases him away 7:00 43 vs 42 oracle in the main of Apocalypse 4 scvs are killed before it is chased away widow mine in the natural of Minigun kills a probe 8:00 51 v 47 Oracle flies into the natural and kills a mule banshee harassing the natural of Minigun 9:00 60 vs 55 Oracle trying to find an opening to harass but it is denied by marines widow mine in the main takes out the oracle Robo bay finishes for minigun 10:00 69 vs 68 Extended thermal lance research started for Minigun Colossus production started for Minigun phoenix for Minigun +1 attack half way done for Apocalypse combat shields for Apocalypse stim half way done for Apocalypse 11:00 80 vs 84 Apocalypse drops his whole army in the main of Minigun but retreats when he sees Minigun's army banshee of apocalypse is killed off 2nd starport for Apocalypse 2 more rax for Apocalypse 12:00 91 vs 97 3rd base for Minigun viking production started for Apocalypse 13:00 102 vs 114 +1 armor started for Apocalypse 2 more gates for Minigun Minigun still making phoenixes forge for Minigun Apocalypse moving across the map 3rd colossus is out for Minigun 14:00 118 vs 132 concussive shells for Apocalypse Minigun putting up cannons at his bases 2nd forge for Minigun +1 armor for Minigun 15:00 146 vs 154 Apocalypse regroups his army and starts pushing across the map floating factory being attacked by phoenixes scvs being pulled by apocalypse +1 attack for Minigun twilight council for Minigun
16:00 169 vs 182
Apocalypse attacking at the 3rd of Minigun
photon overcharge on the 3rd of Minigun
vikings target firing the colossi
1 colossus alive at the end when vikings all die by the ground force of Apocalypse breaks through
17:00 115 vs 86
Apocalypse kills the 3rd and pushes into the natural
Minigun basically only has phoenixes left
Minigun trying to lift units and another colossus spawns
Apocalypse just pushes into the main
probes are pulled by Minigun
the colossus is taken out
18:00 82 vs 12
Minigun loses his phoenixes and ggs!
Apocalypse takes game 1!
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Poll: Recommend Apocalypse vs Minigun game 1?No (2) 67% Yes (1) 33% If you have time (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Apocalypse vs Minigun game 1? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
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I guess when half your army doesn't attack ground it can be a little bit troublesome ;D
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On July 18 2013 07:49 turdburgler wrote:
mine aoe doesnt kill an scv, once again casters showing sick game knowledge by claiming it does.
Yeah...it gets a bit grating after a while.
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On July 18 2013 07:55 GTPGlitch wrote:
I guess when half your army doesn't attack ground it can be a little bit troublesome ;D
i guess when you invest in harrasment that fails because you run in to widow mines that you can already see and then expand first as protoss and then fail to use your penix correctly it can be a little it troublesome.
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On July 18 2013 07:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Apocalypse spawns in the top left Minigun spawns in the bottom right
1:40
gate first for Minigun
rax first for Apocalypse
gas for Minigun
gas for Apocalypse
2:00
Cybernetics core for Minigun
zealot for Minigun
reaper for Apocalypse
3:00
Mothership core for Minigun
stalker for minigun
CC on the high ground for Apocalypse
reactor for Apocalypse
4:00
bunker in the main for Apocalypse
zealot moves into the main of Apocalypse
reactored marines for Apocalypse
scvs pulled to fight with the zealot
stalker and MSC shows up for Minigun
5:00
the bunker finishes for apocalypse
Apocalypse losing tons of scvs
the stalker of Minigun is killed off and the MSC escapes
14 scvs were killed
6 left
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On July 18 2013 08:03 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 07:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Apocalypse spawns in the top left Minigun spawns in the bottom right 1:40 gate first for Minigun rax first for Apocalypse gas for Minigun gas for Apocalypse 2:00 Cybernetics core for Minigun zealot for Minigun reaper for Apocalypse 3:00 Mothership core for Minigun stalker for minigun CC on the high ground for Apocalypse reactor for Apocalypse 4:00 bunker in the main for Apocalypse zealot moves into the main of Apocalypse reactored marines for Apocalypse scvs pulled to fight with the zealot stalker and MSC shows up for Minigun 5:00 the bunker finishes for apocalypse Apocalypse losing tons of scvs the stalker of Minigun is killed off and the MSC escapes 14 scvs were killed 6 left
6:00
Nexus for Minigun
Mothership core flies back into the main of Apocalypse
Apocalypse salvages his bunker
MSC chased away
Robo for Minigun
7:00 15 vs 35
+1 attack for Apocalypse
reaper scouts the main of Minigun
2 more gates for Minigun
8:00 26 vs 44
my stream went down D:
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It's thunderstorming really bad outside and my stream is going crazy right now. Can someone post when the games are over so I can post the polls?
edit: ok it seems to be ok now
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Not just you I don't think. At least stream is pooping out for me too.
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Have a LoL event just started or something? Flawless stream up till this forth game which is just unwatchable.
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Is it just me or is Twitch lagging like hell? Can't even watch in 360P. It was relatively ok watching Europe this afternoon.
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Wow, i'm used to some lag.
But i seem to have 1 frame per 20 seconds or so.
Also, even the sound went out a lot, which didnt happen before.
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thermal lance is gonna finish before stim, nice.
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My steam is an absolute mess as well. I can't tell what's going on at all.
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Oh, now it suddenly works fine... :s
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Oh look, Minigun got this game
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stream troubles! oh snap.... but i am interested in these new casters! they seem pretty chill
yeah i missed most of that match... at first minigun is moving in with a stalker and then i come back and he has 3 colossus and just destroying everything XD
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On July 18 2013 08:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 08:03 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 07:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Apocalypse spawns in the top left Minigun spawns in the bottom right 1:40 gate first for Minigun rax first for Apocalypse gas for Minigun gas for Apocalypse 2:00 Cybernetics core for Minigun zealot for Minigun reaper for Apocalypse 3:00 Mothership core for Minigun stalker for minigun CC on the high ground for Apocalypse reactor for Apocalypse 4:00 bunker in the main for Apocalypse zealot moves into the main of Apocalypse reactored marines for Apocalypse scvs pulled to fight with the zealot stalker and MSC shows up for Minigun 5:00 the bunker finishes for apocalypse Apocalypse losing tons of scvs the stalker of Minigun is killed off and the MSC escapes 14 scvs were killed 6 left 6:00 Nexus for Minigun Mothership core flies back into the main of Apocalypse Apocalypse salvages his bunker MSC chased away Robo for Minigun 7:00 15 vs 35 +1 attack for Apocalypse reaper scouts the main of Minigun 2 more gates for Minigun 8:00 26 vs 44 my stream went down D:
10:00 47 vs 63
some black magic happened between 8 and 9 minutes while my stream was down
Apocalypse pushing the natural of Minigun
first colossus about to spawn 2 more gates for Minigun
stim started for Apocalypse
Extended thermal lance research started for Minigun
2 more gates
apocalypse backs off to his side of the map
factory for Apocalypse
11:00 62 vs 82
Marauder production for Apocalypse
Warp prism is out for Minigun
Minigun moving across the map with his first 2 colossi
move command some gateway forces into Apocalypse's army but Minigun recovers
12:00 74 vs 91
starport for Apocalypse
Apocalypse building 2 bunkers in his natural
Zealot drop in the main of Apocalypse
Minigun pushing into the natural killing Apocalypse's whole army before it retreats into the natural
zealots force scvs off hte main mineral line
13:00 49 vs 96
scvs repairing the bunkers
only colossi hitting the bunker
Minigun warps in some more units and goes in for the attack
scvs in the natural are all pulled
time warp and forcefields form minigun
14:00 55 vs 104
1-1 started for Minigun
the last bunker falls
Apocalypse is losing the rest of his units
Apocalypse ggs!
Minigun wins game 2!
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Poll: Recommend Apocalypse vs Minigun game 2?Yes (1) 33% No (1) 33% If you have time (1) 33% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Apocalypse vs Minigun game 2? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
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On July 18 2013 08:03 JonIrenicus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 07:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Apocalypse spawns in the top left Minigun spawns in the bottom right 1:00 - 6:00 Lag Can't see shit
Strange. Seems like twitch is cycling lag.
Was bad for me til yesterday.
Today everything went normal again.
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On July 18 2013 08:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Apocalypse spawns in the top right Minigun spawns in the bottom left
1:40
gateway first for Minigun
2:00
double gas for Minigun
CC first on the high ground for Apocalypse
rax for Apocalypse
3:00
cybernetics core for Minigun
2nd rax for Apocalypse
zealot for Minigun
4:00
MSC for Minigun
bunker in the natural for Apocalypse
Nexus for Minigun
double gas for Apocalypse
ebay for Apocalypse
5:00
Minigun sending his MSC across the map
2 more gates for Minigun
3rd rax for Apocalypse
Forge for Minigun
+1 attack for Apocalypse
missile turret for Apocalypse
tech lab for Apocalypse
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On July 18 2013 08:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 08:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Apocalypse spawns in the top right Minigun spawns in the bottom left 1:40 gateway first for Minigun 2:00 double gas for Minigun CC first on the high ground for Apocalypse rax for Apocalypse 3:00 cybernetics core for Minigun 2nd rax for Apocalypse zealot for Minigun 4:00 MSC for Minigun bunker in the natural for Apocalypse Nexus for Minigun double gas for Apocalypse ebay for Apocalypse 5:00 Minigun sending his MSC across the map 2 more gates for Minigun 3rd rax for Apocalypse Forge for Minigun +1 attack for Apocalypse missile turret for Apocalypse tech lab for Apocalypse
6:00
+1 armor for Minigun
stim research for Apocalypse
Marauders for Apocalypse
7:00 45 vs 49
Factory for Apocalypse
Minigun pressuring the front of Apocalypse's base with some sentries and stalkers
2 bunkers done for Apocalypse
scvs are pulled to repair and Minigun backs off
Twilight council for Minigun
8:00 56 vs 52
Starport for Apocalypse
Minigun retreats with his army
charge research for minigun
Apocalypse salvages his bunkers
+2 armor for Minigun
9:00 70 vs 65
medivacs started for Apocalypse
3rd CC for Apocalypse
Templar archives for Minigun
Combat shields for Apoclaypse
+1 armor for Apocalypse
10:00 80 vs 74
2 more rax for Apocalypse
Apocalypse pushing out with his first 2 medivacs
storm research started for Minigun
2 more gates for Minigun
Apocalypse pushes to the natural of Minigun
photon overcharge on the natural nexus
Apocalypse backs off
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nothing really impressive from both players this series, think alicia is a shoe in for first place
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Wow, some terrible indecision from Minigun. Not defending the drop and not attacking.
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On July 18 2013 08:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 08:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 08:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Apocalypse spawns in the top right Minigun spawns in the bottom left 1:40 gateway first for Minigun 2:00 double gas for Minigun CC first on the high ground for Apocalypse rax for Apocalypse 3:00 cybernetics core for Minigun 2nd rax for Apocalypse zealot for Minigun 4:00 MSC for Minigun bunker in the natural for Apocalypse Nexus for Minigun double gas for Apocalypse ebay for Apocalypse 5:00 Minigun sending his MSC across the map 2 more gates for Minigun 3rd rax for Apocalypse Forge for Minigun +1 attack for Apocalypse missile turret for Apocalypse tech lab for Apocalypse 6:00 +1 armor for Minigun stim research for Apocalypse Marauders for Apocalypse 7:00 45 vs 49 Factory for Apocalypse Minigun pressuring the front of Apocalypse's base with some sentries and stalkers 2 bunkers done for Apocalypse scvs are pulled to repair and Minigun backs off Twilight council for Minigun 8:00 56 vs 52 Starport for Apocalypse Minigun retreats with his army charge research for minigun Apocalypse salvages his bunkers +2 armor for Minigun 9:00 70 vs 65 medivacs started for Apocalypse 3rd CC for Apocalypse Templar archives for Minigun Combat shields for Apoclaypse +1 armor for Apocalypse 10:00 80 vs 74 2 more rax for Apocalypse Apocalypse pushing out with his first 2 medivacs storm research started for Minigun 2 more gates for Minigun Apocalypse pushes to the natural of Minigun photon overcharge on the natural nexus Apocalypse backs off
11:00 103 vs 90
Ghost academy for Apocalypse
Apocalypse putting up 3 bunkers at home
probe building the 3rd of Minigun is killed before planting the base
12:00 121 vs 100
2nd forge for Minigun
+1 attack for Minigun
armory for Apocalypse
robo for Minigun
3rd forge for Minigun
extra forge is canceled
13:00 129 vs 115
+3 armor started for Minigun
3rd base for Minigun
+2 attack started for Apocalypse
Minigun moving across the map
Apocalypse mixing in some widow mines
double drop in the natural of Minigun
14:00 150 vs 121
photon overcharge on the natural nexus
MSC is killed
emp on the sentries of Minigun
Minigun attacks the 3rd of Apocalypse and forces a lift
15:00 162 vs 132
warp prism for Minigun
Robo bay for Minigun
2nd ebay for Apocalypse
move command zelaots into the army of Apocalypse before turning around
Apocalypse flanks the retreating army of Minigun
Minigun's army gets surrounded
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On July 18 2013 08:24 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 08:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 08:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 08:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Apocalypse spawns in the top right Minigun spawns in the bottom left 1:40 gateway first for Minigun 2:00 double gas for Minigun CC first on the high ground for Apocalypse rax for Apocalypse 3:00 cybernetics core for Minigun 2nd rax for Apocalypse zealot for Minigun 4:00 MSC for Minigun bunker in the natural for Apocalypse Nexus for Minigun double gas for Apocalypse ebay for Apocalypse 5:00 Minigun sending his MSC across the map 2 more gates for Minigun 3rd rax for Apocalypse Forge for Minigun +1 attack for Apocalypse missile turret for Apocalypse tech lab for Apocalypse 6:00 +1 armor for Minigun stim research for Apocalypse Marauders for Apocalypse 7:00 45 vs 49 Factory for Apocalypse Minigun pressuring the front of Apocalypse's base with some sentries and stalkers 2 bunkers done for Apocalypse scvs are pulled to repair and Minigun backs off Twilight council for Minigun 8:00 56 vs 52 Starport for Apocalypse Minigun retreats with his army charge research for minigun Apocalypse salvages his bunkers +2 armor for Minigun 9:00 70 vs 65 medivacs started for Apocalypse 3rd CC for Apocalypse Templar archives for Minigun Combat shields for Apoclaypse +1 armor for Apocalypse 10:00 80 vs 74 2 more rax for Apocalypse Apocalypse pushing out with his first 2 medivacs storm research started for Minigun 2 more gates for Minigun Apocalypse pushes to the natural of Minigun photon overcharge on the natural nexus Apocalypse backs off 11:00 103 vs 90 Ghost academy for Apocalypse Apocalypse putting up 3 bunkers at home probe building the 3rd of Minigun is killed before planting the base 12:00 121 vs 100 2nd forge for Minigun +1 attack for Minigun armory for Apocalypse robo for Minigun 3rd forge for Minigun extra forge is canceled 13:00 129 vs 115 +3 armor started for Minigun 3rd base for Minigun +2 attack started for Apocalypse Minigun moving across the map Apocalypse mixing in some widow mines double drop in the natural of Minigun 14:00 150 vs 121 photon overcharge on the natural nexus MSC is killed emp on the sentries of Minigun Minigun attacks the 3rd of Apocalypse and forces a lift 15:00 162 vs 132 warp prism for Minigun Robo bay for Minigun 2nd ebay for Apocalypse move command zelaots into the army of Apocalypse before turning around Apocalypse flanks the retreating army of Minigun Minigun's army gets surrounded
16:00 172 vs 123
all the templars of minigun are killed
drop in the natural of Minigun is cleaned up
2 more CCs for Apocalypse
extended thermal lance research started for Minigun
Minigun losing more gateway units
Colossus production started for Minigun
17:00 193 vs 135
ghost cloak research started for Apocalypse
Apoclaypse lands his 4th base
+3 attack started for Apocalypse
+2 attack started for Minigun
2 more rax for Apocalypse
2nd robo for Minigun
emp hits the army of Minigun
apocalypse hits before thermal lance is done
18:00 170 vs 98
Apocalypse kills the 3rd of Minigun
2nd starport for Apocalypse
vikings for Apocalypse
Minigun ggs!
Apocalypse wins 2-1!
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Poll: Recommend Apocalypse vs Minigun game 3?No (3) 60% Yes (1) 20% If you have time (1) 20% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend Apocalypse vs Minigun game 3? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
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On July 18 2013 08:22 rawrthedog wrote:
nothing really impressive from both players this series, think alicia is a shoe in for first place
Alicia was always shoe in for first place, the other three are tbh at best mediocre and I don't see any of them surviving the RO16.
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Well, that was a very lackluster series...
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really solid play from apocalypse, great ghost control and drops. he totally had minigun's number
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why do casters constantly pronounce colossus wrongly.. they keep referring to colossi all the time while they are not talking about plural. 'This colossi timing', 'he just lost his colossi' (when referring to 1) etc. It's annoying
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On July 18 2013 08:27 tl2212 wrote:
really solid play from apocalypse, great ghost control and drops. he totally had minigun's number
great drops as in the other player didnt react ;D
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On July 18 2013 08:26 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 08:22 rawrthedog wrote:
nothing really impressive from both players this series, think alicia is a shoe in for first place Alicia was always shoe in for first place, the other three are tbh at best mediocre and I don't see any of them surviving the RO16.
I think if Minigun made it, he would have a funny chance against a Korean zerg that never saw him play before.
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I hope Neeb vs Minigun goes batshit crazy. If not then this upcoming series might be the only one worth staying up for, but I'm afraid that it will be kinda boring and one sided Alicia stomp. :/
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On July 18 2013 08:32 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 08:26 Fusilero wrote:On July 18 2013 08:22 rawrthedog wrote:
nothing really impressive from both players this series, think alicia is a shoe in for first place Alicia was always shoe in for first place, the other three are tbh at best mediocre and I don't see any of them surviving the RO16. I think if Minigun made it, he would have a funny chance against a Korean zerg that never saw him play before.
So, Jaedong? He's the only one who fits the description. I don't know.
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im sure this starcrafts video would be hilarious if i was getting more than 0.1 fps
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On July 18 2013 08:32 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I hope Neeb vs Minigun goes batshit crazy. If not then this upcoming series might be the only one worth staying up for, but I'm afraid that it will be kinda boring and one sided Alicia stomp. :/
Alicia probably looking to go 7-0 vs Quantic today
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On July 18 2013 08:33 turdburgler wrote:
im sure this starcrafts video would be hilarious if i was getting more than 0.1 fps
Try 720p (not 720p+), it worked for me.
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On July 18 2013 08:33 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 08:32 stuchiu wrote:On July 18 2013 08:26 Fusilero wrote:On July 18 2013 08:22 rawrthedog wrote:
nothing really impressive from both players this series, think alicia is a shoe in for first place Alicia was always shoe in for first place, the other three are tbh at best mediocre and I don't see any of them surviving the RO16. I think if Minigun made it, he would have a funny chance against a Korean zerg that never saw him play before. So, Jaedong? He's the only one who fits the description. I don't know.
Didn't work so well against Life, but then again Life was unbeatable back then ^^
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On July 18 2013 08:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 08:32 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I hope Neeb vs Minigun goes batshit crazy. If not then this upcoming series might be the only one worth staying up for, but I'm afraid that it will be kinda boring and one sided Alicia stomp. :/ Alicia probably looking to go 7-0 vs Quantic today
I missed todays ATC. What was up with Quantics lineup?
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On July 18 2013 08:35 garbanzo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 08:33 turdburgler wrote:
im sure this starcrafts video would be hilarious if i was getting more than 0.1 fps Try 720p (not 720p+), it worked for me.
same no lag
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On July 18 2013 08:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Alicia spawns in the bottom left Apocalypse spawns in the top right
1:40
rax first for Apocalypse
gate first for Alicia
gas for apocalypse
2:00
gas for Alicia
probe scout from Alicia
reaper for Apocalypse
cyber core for Alicia
3:00
zealot for Alicia
reactor for Apocalypse
CC on the high ground for Apocalypse
4:00
Nexus for Alicia
MSC for Alicia
2nd gas for Alicia
bunker in the main for Apocalypse
reaper scouts the main of Minigun but is chased away by the MSC
ebay for Apocalypse
reaper comes in for another pass and is killed by probes and the MSC
5:00
+1 attack for Apocalypse
Robo for Alicia
Bunker in the natural for Apocalypse
forge for Alicia
2 more rax for Apocalypse
2nd reaper for Apocalypse is denied from the natural by a stalker but sees the nexus
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On July 18 2013 08:38 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 08:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 08:32 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I hope Neeb vs Minigun goes batshit crazy. If not then this upcoming series might be the only one worth staying up for, but I'm afraid that it will be kinda boring and one sided Alicia stomp. :/ Alicia probably looking to go 7-0 vs Quantic today I missed todays ATC. What was up with Quantics lineup?
mix of academy and non hyun/center main teamers
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On July 18 2013 08:38 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 08:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 08:32 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I hope Neeb vs Minigun goes batshit crazy. If not then this upcoming series might be the only one worth staying up for, but I'm afraid that it will be kinda boring and one sided Alicia stomp. :/ Alicia probably looking to go 7-0 vs Quantic today I missed todays ATC. What was up with Quantics lineup?
Hyun/Center were on the plane to Valencia so they played the series as a b-team exercise.
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On July 18 2013 08:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 08:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Alicia spawns in the bottom left Apocalypse spawns in the top right 1:40 rax first for Apocalypse gate first for Alicia gas for apocalypse 2:00 gas for Alicia probe scout from Alicia reaper for Apocalypse cyber core for Alicia 3:00 zealot for Alicia reactor for Apocalypse CC on the high ground for Apocalypse 4:00 Nexus for Alicia MSC for Alicia 2nd gas for Alicia bunker in the main for Apocalypse reaper scouts the main of Minigun but is chased away by the MSC ebay for Apocalypse reaper comes in for another pass and is killed by probes and the MSC 5:00 +1 attack for Apocalypse Robo for Alicia Bunker in the natural for Apocalypse forge for Alicia 2 more rax for Apocalypse 2nd reaper for Apocalypse is denied from the natural by a stalker but sees the nexus
6:00
+1 armor for Alicia
2nd gas for Apocalypse
missile turret for Apocalypse in his main mineral line
2 more gates for Alicai
7:00 47 vs 42
Twilight council for Alicia
observer for Alicia
stim research for Apocalypse
factory for Apocalypse
marauders for Apocalypse
twilight council for Alicia
warp prism for Alicia
8:00 60 vs 61
Starport for Apocalypse
charge for alicia
Templar archives for Alicia
+1 armor for Apocalypse
medivacs started for Apocalypse
9:00 72 v 75
3 more gates for Alicia
immortal started for Alicia
+2 armor for Alicia
2 more rax for Apocalypse
storm research started for Alicia
combat shields for Apocalypse
10:00 78 vs 89
concussive shells for Apocalypse
Apocalypse moving across the map
Alicia going up to 8 gates
Apocalypse attacking the natural of Alicia
photon overcharge on the natural nexus
Alicia is able to push him back
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Alicia doesn't have to go all in when Apocalypse doesn't get a third down until 14:45. Sure, his is going to be behind, but he's certainly not going to be killed.
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On July 18 2013 08:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 08:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 08:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Alicia spawns in the bottom left Apocalypse spawns in the top right 1:40 rax first for Apocalypse gate first for Alicia gas for apocalypse 2:00 gas for Alicia probe scout from Alicia reaper for Apocalypse cyber core for Alicia 3:00 zealot for Alicia reactor for Apocalypse CC on the high ground for Apocalypse 4:00 Nexus for Alicia MSC for Alicia 2nd gas for Alicia bunker in the main for Apocalypse reaper scouts the main of Minigun but is chased away by the MSC ebay for Apocalypse reaper comes in for another pass and is killed by probes and the MSC 5:00 +1 attack for Apocalypse Robo for Alicia Bunker in the natural for Apocalypse forge for Alicia 2 more rax for Apocalypse 2nd reaper for Apocalypse is denied from the natural by a stalker but sees the nexus 6:00 +1 armor for Alicia 2nd gas for Apocalypse missile turret for Apocalypse in his main mineral line 2 more gates for Alicai 7:00 47 vs 42 Twilight council for Alicia observer for Alicia stim research for Apocalypse factory for Apocalypse marauders for Apocalypse twilight council for Alicia warp prism for Alicia 8:00 60 vs 61 Starport for Apocalypse charge for alicia Templar archives for Alicia +1 armor for Apocalypse medivacs started for Apocalypse 9:00 72 v 75 3 more gates for Alicia immortal started for Alicia +2 armor for Alicia 2 more rax for Apocalypse storm research started for Alicia combat shields for Apocalypse 10:00 78 vs 89 concussive shells for Apocalypse Apocalypse moving across the map Alicia going up to 8 gates Apocalypse attacking the natural of Alicia photon overcharge on the natural nexus Alicia is able to push him back
11:00 91 vs 95
zealot warp in from the warp prism forces a cancel on Apocalypse's 3rd
3rd CC restarted for Apocalypse inside his main
Apocalypse attacks into the natural again
Alicia uses photon overcharge again
12:00 95 vs 104
vikings being made by apocalypse
armory for Apocalypse
storm is revealed
+1 attack started for Alicia
Robo bay for Alicia
ghost academy for Apocalypse
13:00 102 vs 118
another warp prism for Alicia
+2 attack started for Apocalypse
factory lands at the potential 3rd of Alicia
Alicia storms the army of Apocalypse
Apocalypse catches a templar with a small group of marauders
moebius reactor for Apocalypse
14:00 128 vs 134
Colossus production for Alicia
extended thermal lance research for Alicia
3rd base for Alicia
ghosts coming out for Apocalypse now
zealot harass at the 3rd of Apocalypse
15:00 138 vs 147
warp prism is killed off by vikings
+2 attack for Alicia
ghost cloak research started for Apocalypse
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oh damn apoc what was that
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ahahahaha oh my god like two storms killed his whole army
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On July 18 2013 08:42 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 08:38 AlternativeEgo wrote:On July 18 2013 08:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 08:32 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I hope Neeb vs Minigun goes batshit crazy. If not then this upcoming series might be the only one worth staying up for, but I'm afraid that it will be kinda boring and one sided Alicia stomp. :/ Alicia probably looking to go 7-0 vs Quantic today I missed todays ATC. What was up with Quantics lineup? Hyun/Center were on the plane to Valencia so they played the series as a b-team exercise.
Oh shit, that starts tomorrow :o (I have entered the 18th over here). It's always something on every day so I have not looked ahead. It just snuck up on me. >.<
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How is the "Units Killed/Workers Killed" overlay up for this long?
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On July 18 2013 08:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 08:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 08:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 08:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Alicia spawns in the bottom left Apocalypse spawns in the top right 1:40 rax first for Apocalypse gate first for Alicia gas for apocalypse 2:00 gas for Alicia probe scout from Alicia reaper for Apocalypse cyber core for Alicia 3:00 zealot for Alicia reactor for Apocalypse CC on the high ground for Apocalypse 4:00 Nexus for Alicia MSC for Alicia 2nd gas for Alicia bunker in the main for Apocalypse reaper scouts the main of Minigun but is chased away by the MSC ebay for Apocalypse reaper comes in for another pass and is killed by probes and the MSC 5:00 +1 attack for Apocalypse Robo for Alicia Bunker in the natural for Apocalypse forge for Alicia 2 more rax for Apocalypse 2nd reaper for Apocalypse is denied from the natural by a stalker but sees the nexus 6:00 +1 armor for Alicia 2nd gas for Apocalypse missile turret for Apocalypse in his main mineral line 2 more gates for Alicai 7:00 47 vs 42 Twilight council for Alicia observer for Alicia stim research for Apocalypse factory for Apocalypse marauders for Apocalypse twilight council for Alicia warp prism for Alicia 8:00 60 vs 61 Starport for Apocalypse charge for alicia Templar archives for Alicia +1 armor for Apocalypse medivacs started for Apocalypse 9:00 72 v 75 3 more gates for Alicia immortal started for Alicia +2 armor for Alicia 2 more rax for Apocalypse storm research started for Alicia combat shields for Apocalypse 10:00 78 vs 89 concussive shells for Apocalypse Apocalypse moving across the map Alicia going up to 8 gates Apocalypse attacking the natural of Alicia photon overcharge on the natural nexus Alicia is able to push him back 11:00 91 vs 95 zealot warp in from the warp prism forces a cancel on Apocalypse's 3rd 3rd CC restarted for Apocalypse inside his main Apocalypse attacks into the natural again Alicia uses photon overcharge again 12:00 95 vs 104 vikings being made by apocalypse armory for Apocalypse storm is revealed +1 attack started for Alicia Robo bay for Alicia ghost academy for Apocalypse 13:00 102 vs 118 another warp prism for Alicia +2 attack started for Apocalypse factory lands at the potential 3rd of Alicia Alicia storms the army of Apocalypse Apocalypse catches a templar with a small group of marauders moebius reactor for Apocalypse 14:00 128 vs 134 Colossus production for Alicia extended thermal lance research for Alicia 3rd base for Alicia ghosts coming out for Apocalypse now zealot harass at the 3rd of Apocalypse 15:00 138 vs 147 warp prism is killed off by vikings +2 attack for Alicia ghost cloak research started for Apocalypse
16:00 154 vs 162
Apocalypse moving across the map
storm on the ghosts
emp hits the army of Alicia
storms on the whole army of Apocalypse as he tries to move up Alicia's natural ramp
17:00 159 vs 121
Apocalypse takes massive damage from storm
Apocalypse tries to retreat and Alicia gives chase
Apocalypse kiting back but losing tons of units
+3 attack for Apocalypse
Apocalypse rebuilding his factory
18:00 145 vs 120
Alicia moving across the map
+1 ship weapons for Apocalypse
2nd ebay for Apocalypse
2 more rax for Apocalypse
19:00 156 vs 147
Alicia adding in more archons
Alicia attacks into the army of Apocalypse
emp on the 3 of the 5 HTs
2 storms hit the army of Apocalypse
Alicia backs up
20:00 140 vs 126
the colossi start to fall to the vikings but the gateway forces and pushing through the bio army
Alicia attacks into the 3rd of Apocalypse
Alicia loses his last colossus starts to retreat
another warp in comes in and Alicia attacks into the natural
4th base for Alicia
Apocalypse ggs as his army dies
Alicia wins game 1!
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apocalypse
y u no hellbat late game?
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Terrans keep on eating storms
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these na terrans love to stay in storms
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Norway25712 Posts
Some pretty shady decision making from Apoc, man.
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GG damn that was so close!!!! goooo apocalypse !
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On July 18 2013 08:56 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Alicia spawns in the top left Apocalypse spawns in the bottom right
1:40
gate first for Alicia
rax first for Apocalypse
gas for Alicia
probe scout for Alicia
2:00
gas for Apocalypse on 15
cybernetics core for Alicia
3:00
zealot for Alicia
reactor for Apocalypse
ebay block in the natural of Alicia
2nd gas for Alicia
4:00
bunker in the natural of Apocalypse
Nexus for Alicia
double reaper for Apocalypse
ebay for Apocalypse
CC on the low ground for Apocalypse
5:00
Robo for Alicia
+1 attack for Apocalypse
twilight council for Alicia
missile turret for Apocalypse
2 reapers jump into Alicia's main
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Norway25712 Posts
Why would you not just go for the MSC snipe and then get out.
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On July 18 2013 09:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 08:56 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Alicia spawns in the top left Apocalypse spawns in the bottom right 1:40 gate first for Alicia rax first for Apocalypse gas for Alicia probe scout for Alicia 2:00 gas for Apocalypse on 15 cybernetics core for Alicia 3:00 zealot for Alicia reactor for Apocalypse ebay block in the natural of Alicia 2nd gas for Alicia 4:00 bunker in the natural of Apocalypse Nexus for Alicia double reaper for Apocalypse ebay for Apocalypse CC on the low ground for Apocalypse 5:00 Robo for Alicia +1 attack for Apocalypse twilight council for Alicia missile turret for Apocalypse 2 reapers jump into Alicia's main
6:00
1 reaper is killed off
tech lab for Apocalypse
observer for Alicia
2nd reaper escapes after getting a full scout
dark shrine for Alicia
combat shields for Apocalypse
marauders for apocalypse
7:00 41 vs 39
3rd rax for Apocalypse
warp prism for Alicia
Factory for Apocalypse
2 gates for Alicia
2nd missile turret for Apocalypse
8:00 52 vs 54
Apocalypse sending some bio units across the amp
forge for Alicia
Robo bay for Alicia
blink research for Alicia
Apocalypse attacking into the natural
photon overcharge on the natural nexus
+1 armor for Apocalypse
starport for Apocalypse
9:00 59 vs 60
+1 armor for Alicia
stim research for Apocalypse
Apocalypse's bio force was pushed back
immortal started for Alicia
medivacs for Apocalypse
2 more rax for Apocalypse
Apocalypse attacks into the natural again
photon overcharge pushes back the marines
10:00 81 vs 79
Colossus for Alicia
3 more gates for Alicia
scan sees the first colossus
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Norway25712 Posts
Aaand Alicia is now winning. No surprises.
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Wow, great play by Alicia.
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This cast could really use someone like gretorp or someone else analytical.
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On July 18 2013 09:03 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 08:56 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Alicia spawns in the top left Apocalypse spawns in the bottom right 1:40 gate first for Alicia rax first for Apocalypse gas for Alicia probe scout for Alicia 2:00 gas for Apocalypse on 15 cybernetics core for Alicia 3:00 zealot for Alicia reactor for Apocalypse ebay block in the natural of Alicia 2nd gas for Alicia 4:00 bunker in the natural of Apocalypse Nexus for Alicia double reaper for Apocalypse ebay for Apocalypse CC on the low ground for Apocalypse 5:00 Robo for Alicia +1 attack for Apocalypse twilight council for Alicia missile turret for Apocalypse 2 reapers jump into Alicia's main 6:00 1 reaper is killed off tech lab for Apocalypse observer for Alicia 2nd reaper escapes after getting a full scout dark shrine for Alicia combat shields for Apocalypse marauders for apocalypse 7:00 41 vs 39 3rd rax for Apocalypse warp prism for Alicia Factory for Apocalypse 2 gates for Alicia 2nd missile turret for Apocalypse 8:00 52 vs 54 Apocalypse sending some bio units across the amp forge for Alicia Robo bay for Alicia blink research for Alicia Apocalypse attacking into the natural photon overcharge on the natural nexus +1 armor for Apocalypse starport for Apocalypse 9:00 59 vs 60 +1 armor for Alicia stim research for Apocalypse Apocalypse's bio force was pushed back immortal started for Alicia medivacs for Apocalypse 2 more rax for Apocalypse Apocalypse attacks into the natural again photon overcharge pushes back the marines 10:00 81 vs 79 Colossus for Alicia 3 more gates for Alicia scan sees the first colossus
11:00 99 vs 101
3rd CC for Apocalypse
zealots dropped into the main of Apocalypse
vikings started for Apocalypse
double drop in the main of Alicia
1 full medivac is killed
12:00 87 vs 80
the drop is cleaned up
bio attack into the natural of Alicia is crushed by forcefields and a colossus
charge research started for Alicia
Templar archives for Alicia
charge research for Alicia
Alicia canceled his dark shrine earlier
+1 attack on the way for Alicia
ghost academy for Apocalypse
13:00 101 vs 101
storm research for Alicia
moebius reactor for Apocalypse
ghosts for Apocalypse
full warp prism killed by vikings
armor for Apocalypse
3rd base for Alicia
14:00 111 vs 119
2nd ebay for Apocalypse
+2 armor for Alicia
Apocalypse starting to mix in widow mines
+2 attack for Apocalypse
15:00 128 vs 139
Colossus production restarted for Alicia
Extended thermal lance research started for Alicia
hellbats started for Apocalypse
zealot runby into the 3rd of Apocalypse
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On July 18 2013 09:07 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:03 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 09:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 08:56 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Alicia spawns in the top left Apocalypse spawns in the bottom right 1:40 gate first for Alicia rax first for Apocalypse gas for Alicia probe scout for Alicia 2:00 gas for Apocalypse on 15 cybernetics core for Alicia 3:00 zealot for Alicia reactor for Apocalypse ebay block in the natural of Alicia 2nd gas for Alicia 4:00 bunker in the natural of Apocalypse Nexus for Alicia double reaper for Apocalypse ebay for Apocalypse CC on the low ground for Apocalypse 5:00 Robo for Alicia +1 attack for Apocalypse twilight council for Alicia missile turret for Apocalypse 2 reapers jump into Alicia's main 6:00 1 reaper is killed off tech lab for Apocalypse observer for Alicia 2nd reaper escapes after getting a full scout dark shrine for Alicia combat shields for Apocalypse marauders for apocalypse 7:00 41 vs 39 3rd rax for Apocalypse warp prism for Alicia Factory for Apocalypse 2 gates for Alicia 2nd missile turret for Apocalypse 8:00 52 vs 54 Apocalypse sending some bio units across the amp forge for Alicia Robo bay for Alicia blink research for Alicia Apocalypse attacking into the natural photon overcharge on the natural nexus +1 armor for Apocalypse starport for Apocalypse 9:00 59 vs 60 +1 armor for Alicia stim research for Apocalypse Apocalypse's bio force was pushed back immortal started for Alicia medivacs for Apocalypse 2 more rax for Apocalypse Apocalypse attacks into the natural again photon overcharge pushes back the marines 10:00 81 vs 79 Colossus for Alicia 3 more gates for Alicia scan sees the first colossus 11:00 99 vs 101 3rd CC for Apocalypse zealots dropped into the main of Apocalypse vikings started for Apocalypse double drop in the main of Alicia 1 full medivac is killed 12:00 87 vs 80 the drop is cleaned up bio attack into the natural of Alicia is crushed by forcefields and a colossus charge research started for Alicia Templar archives for Alicia charge research for Alicia Alicia canceled his dark shrine earlier +1 attack on the way for Alicia ghost academy for Apocalypse 13:00 101 vs 101 storm research for Alicia moebius reactor for Apocalypse ghosts for Apocalypse full warp prism killed by vikings armor for Apocalypse 3rd base for Alicia 14:00 111 vs 119 2nd ebay for Apocalypse +2 armor for Alicia Apocalypse starting to mix in widow mines +2 attack for Apocalypse 15:00 128 vs 139 Colossus production restarted for Alicia Extended thermal lance research started for Alicia hellbats started for Apocalypse zealot runby into the 3rd of Apocalypse
16:00 144 vs 164
cloak research started for Apocalypse
2nd starport for Apocalypse
+2 armor for Apocalypse
17:00 150 vs 173
+2 attack started for Alicia
emp hits the army of Alicia
Apocalypse attacking towards the 3rd of Alicia
the rocks outside the 3rd are being broken down
18:00 172 vs 182
storm hitting the army of Apocalypse
photon overcharge on the 3rd nexus
Apocalypse has to pull back
zealot runby at the 3rd of Apocalypse
zealot runby into the natural of Apocalypse
+1 ship weapons for Apocalypse
+3 attack for Apocalypse
19:00 184 vs 173
4th CC on the way for Apocalypse
4th base for Alicia
13 ghosts out for apocalypse
nuke started for Apocalypse
20:00 194 vs 197
zealot runby to the 3rd of Apocalypse
Apocalypse building extra CCs
1 cc is forced to cancel by the zealots
Apocalypse attacking the 3rd of Alicia
Alicia is not nearby and the 3rd is killed
3rd of Apocalypse is forced to lift
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Micro is only optional to reach no.1 on the Korean server
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What the hell are the casters talking about? This game is over
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Terrible engagement by Apocalypse. All the ghosts were in the front line getting destroyed by the colossus. Guess we won't get to see the nuke.
Yeah, we didn't; such a shame.
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On July 18 2013 09:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:07 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 09:03 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 09:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 08:56 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 Alicia spawns in the top left Apocalypse spawns in the bottom right 1:40 gate first for Alicia rax first for Apocalypse gas for Alicia probe scout for Alicia 2:00 gas for Apocalypse on 15 cybernetics core for Alicia 3:00 zealot for Alicia reactor for Apocalypse ebay block in the natural of Alicia 2nd gas for Alicia 4:00 bunker in the natural of Apocalypse Nexus for Alicia double reaper for Apocalypse ebay for Apocalypse CC on the low ground for Apocalypse 5:00 Robo for Alicia +1 attack for Apocalypse twilight council for Alicia missile turret for Apocalypse 2 reapers jump into Alicia's main 6:00 1 reaper is killed off tech lab for Apocalypse observer for Alicia 2nd reaper escapes after getting a full scout dark shrine for Alicia combat shields for Apocalypse marauders for apocalypse 7:00 41 vs 39 3rd rax for Apocalypse warp prism for Alicia Factory for Apocalypse 2 gates for Alicia 2nd missile turret for Apocalypse 8:00 52 vs 54 Apocalypse sending some bio units across the amp forge for Alicia Robo bay for Alicia blink research for Alicia Apocalypse attacking into the natural photon overcharge on the natural nexus +1 armor for Apocalypse starport for Apocalypse 9:00 59 vs 60 +1 armor for Alicia stim research for Apocalypse Apocalypse's bio force was pushed back immortal started for Alicia medivacs for Apocalypse 2 more rax for Apocalypse Apocalypse attacks into the natural again photon overcharge pushes back the marines 10:00 81 vs 79 Colossus for Alicia 3 more gates for Alicia scan sees the first colossus 11:00 99 vs 101 3rd CC for Apocalypse zealots dropped into the main of Apocalypse vikings started for Apocalypse double drop in the main of Alicia 1 full medivac is killed 12:00 87 vs 80 the drop is cleaned up bio attack into the natural of Alicia is crushed by forcefields and a colossus charge research started for Alicia Templar archives for Alicia charge research for Alicia Alicia canceled his dark shrine earlier +1 attack on the way for Alicia ghost academy for Apocalypse 13:00 101 vs 101 storm research for Alicia moebius reactor for Apocalypse ghosts for Apocalypse full warp prism killed by vikings armor for Apocalypse 3rd base for Alicia 14:00 111 vs 119 2nd ebay for Apocalypse +2 armor for Alicia Apocalypse starting to mix in widow mines +2 attack for Apocalypse 15:00 128 vs 139 Colossus production restarted for Alicia Extended thermal lance research started for Alicia hellbats started for Apocalypse zealot runby into the 3rd of Apocalypse 16:00 144 vs 164 cloak research started for Apocalypse 2nd starport for Apocalypse +2 armor for Apocalypse 17:00 150 vs 173 +2 attack started for Alicia emp hits the army of Alicia Apocalypse attacking towards the 3rd of Alicia the rocks outside the 3rd are being broken down 18:00 172 vs 182 storm hitting the army of Apocalypse photon overcharge on the 3rd nexus Apocalypse has to pull back zealot runby at the 3rd of Apocalypse zealot runby into the natural of Apocalypse +1 ship weapons for Apocalypse +3 attack for Apocalypse 19:00 184 vs 173 4th CC on the way for Apocalypse 4th base for Alicia 13 ghosts out for apocalypse nuke started for Apocalypse 20:00 194 vs 197 zealot runby to the 3rd of Apocalypse Apocalypse building extra CCs 1 cc is forced to cancel by the zealots Apocalypse attacking the 3rd of Alicia Alicia is not nearby and the 3rd is killed 3rd of Apocalypse is forced to lift
21:00 184 vs 174
Apocalypse moves towards the natural and engages alicia
storm kills everything
lololol
storms on
everything
everything
22:00 154 vs 87
Alicia counter attacking
3rd base rebuilding for Alicia
4th of Apocalypse doesnt land and tries to retreat
+3 attack started for Alicia
Alicia moving towards the 3rd of Apocalypse
Apocalypse trying to set up a defensive position
Alicia attacks
23:00 164 vs 77
apocalypse just ggs
Alicia wins 2-0 and advances to the Ro16!
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On July 18 2013 09:12 Bagration wrote:
What the hell are the casters talking about? This game is over
BUT HE ONLY LOST HIS ARMY, GOD.
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match game 3?Yes (4) 100% No (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match game 3? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
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Alicia 7-0 Quantic
It's been a great day for Alicia, allkilling Quantic and advancing to the Ro16 easy. 9 games, 9 wins
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These casters are decent for play by play but my god the analysis was trash.
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On July 18 2013 09:12 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:12 Bagration wrote:
What the hell are the casters talking about? This game is over BUT HE ONLY LOST HIS ARMY, GOD.
idra gg.
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It would be really nice if these casters had someone who knew what they were talking about. I'm all for letting small slip ups and missing a few things slide, but some of the stuff they're saying is just really dumb.
Like, "Oh Apoch can come back into this if Alicia looses his army"... No man he's 100 supply down, unless you mean Alicia *literally* looses his army, like it falls under the map or something.
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I liked the part where storm hit every unit
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On July 18 2013 09:12 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:12 Bagration wrote:
What the hell are the casters talking about? This game is over BUT HE ONLY LOST HIS ARMY, GOD.
He had some SCVs nicely positioned...
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On July 18 2013 09:13 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:12 Fusilero wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Bagration wrote:
What the hell are the casters talking about? This game is over BUT HE ONLY LOST HIS ARMY, GOD. idra gg.
Based on Shellbot's EVERYTHING above, I assume Apoc got stormed to death and they couldn't figure out why he gg'd?
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On July 18 2013 09:13 BlackPanther wrote:
These casters are decent for play by play but my god the analysis was trash.
They aren't very good at reading the situation either. When they said that Alicia had 18 worker kills, it was actually Apocalypse who had that many kills, they took forever to notice the dark shrine being cancelled, and didn't notice the nuke building.
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On July 18 2013 09:15 dogmeatstew wrote:
It would be really nice if these casters had someone who knew what they were talking about. I'm all for letting small slip ups and missing a few things slide, but some of the stuff they're saying is just really dumb.
Like, "Oh Apoch can come back into this if Alicia looses his army"... No man he's 100 supply down, unless you mean Alicia *literally* looses his army, like it falls under the map or something.
It's simple, apocalypse uses his minerals to bribe alicia's army into turning and therefore get the win.
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On July 18 2013 09:12 Shellshock1122 wrote:
storm kills everything
lololol
storms on
everything
everything
That's the stuff right there. :D
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I'm not gonna LR these next games because I'm going to eat some dinner so if anyone else wants to write some LR or some recaps feel free. It's just WCS AM so it's good practice cause it's not like people are going to get mad if you mess up
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On July 18 2013 09:16 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:13 stuchiu wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Fusilero wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Bagration wrote:
What the hell are the casters talking about? This game is over BUT HE ONLY LOST HIS ARMY, GOD. idra gg. Based on Shellbot's EVERYTHING above, I assume Apoc got stormed to death and they couldn't figure out why he gg'd?
They said after he lost his army (and his 3rd to a zealot runby) they talked about how if apocalypse can kill alicia's army (a maxed out deathball with both robo and templar tech) then he can win the match from there (Said tools to kill the army were 8-9 marines and a few idle scvs)
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On July 18 2013 09:16 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:13 stuchiu wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Fusilero wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Bagration wrote:
What the hell are the casters talking about? This game is over BUT HE ONLY LOST HIS ARMY, GOD. idra gg. Based on Shellbot's EVERYTHING above, I assume Apoc got stormed to death and they couldn't figure out why he gg'd?
No, Apoc had just gotten his army Cannae'd and was dead. The casters were trying to make it seems like the game wasn't over.
Context: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cannae
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On July 18 2013 09:18 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:16 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:13 stuchiu wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Fusilero wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Bagration wrote:
What the hell are the casters talking about? This game is over BUT HE ONLY LOST HIS ARMY, GOD. idra gg. Based on Shellbot's EVERYTHING above, I assume Apoc got stormed to death and they couldn't figure out why he gg'd? No, Apoc had just gotten his army Cannae'd and was dead. The casters were trying to make it seems like the game wasn't over. Context: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cannae
Hannibal's a fucking patchtoss, if the game was balanced Rome would have won ez pz.
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Let the craziness commence!
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On July 18 2013 09:15 dogmeatstew wrote:
It would be really nice if these casters had someone who knew what they were talking about. I'm all for letting small slip ups and missing a few things slide, but some of the stuff they're saying is just really dumb.
Like, "Oh Apoch can come back into this if Alicia looses his army"... No man he's 100 supply down, unless you mean Alicia *literally* looses his army, like it falls under the map or something.
If Kibbelz changes his ID to Batman, all will be forgiven.
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On July 18 2013 09:18 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:16 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:13 stuchiu wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Fusilero wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Bagration wrote:
What the hell are the casters talking about? This game is over BUT HE ONLY LOST HIS ARMY, GOD. idra gg. Based on Shellbot's EVERYTHING above, I assume Apoc got stormed to death and they couldn't figure out why he gg'd? No, Apoc had just gotten his army Cannae'd and was dead. The casters were trying to make it seems like the game wasn't over. Context: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cannae
I wasn't familiar with that one. Thanks for the tidbit.
On a separate note, any honest opinions of the casters?
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On July 18 2013 09:22 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:18 Bagration wrote:On July 18 2013 09:16 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:13 stuchiu wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Fusilero wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Bagration wrote:
What the hell are the casters talking about? This game is over BUT HE ONLY LOST HIS ARMY, GOD. idra gg. Based on Shellbot's EVERYTHING above, I assume Apoc got stormed to death and they couldn't figure out why he gg'd? No, Apoc had just gotten his army Cannae'd and was dead. The casters were trying to make it seems like the game wasn't over. Context: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cannae I wasn't familiar with that one. Thanks for the tidbit. On a separate note, any honest opinions of the casters?
I like their suits. I have the stream muted because I'm watching something else at the same time, but they seem like cool guys.
Also it's unusually laggy for me
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On July 18 2013 09:16 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:15 dogmeatstew wrote:
It would be really nice if these casters had someone who knew what they were talking about. I'm all for letting small slip ups and missing a few things slide, but some of the stuff they're saying is just really dumb.
Like, "Oh Apoch can come back into this if Alicia looses his army"... No man he's 100 supply down, unless you mean Alicia *literally* looses his army, like it falls under the map or something. It's simple, apocalypse uses his minerals to bribe alicia's army into turning and therefore get the win.
Legacy of the void introduces all new diplomacy features allowing your workers form unions, go on strike, and accept bribes. SC2 is also now turn based.
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On July 18 2013 09:22 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:18 Bagration wrote:On July 18 2013 09:16 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:13 stuchiu wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Fusilero wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Bagration wrote:
What the hell are the casters talking about? This game is over BUT HE ONLY LOST HIS ARMY, GOD. idra gg. Based on Shellbot's EVERYTHING above, I assume Apoc got stormed to death and they couldn't figure out why he gg'd? No, Apoc had just gotten his army Cannae'd and was dead. The casters were trying to make it seems like the game wasn't over. Context: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cannae I wasn't familiar with that one. Thanks for the tidbit. On a separate note, any honest opinions of the casters?
I think they just didnt really know what to say after Apocalypse stayed in the game after losing 120 supply in 5 seconds
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On July 18 2013 09:20 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:18 Bagration wrote:On July 18 2013 09:16 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:13 stuchiu wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Fusilero wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Bagration wrote:
What the hell are the casters talking about? This game is over BUT HE ONLY LOST HIS ARMY, GOD. idra gg. Based on Shellbot's EVERYTHING above, I assume Apoc got stormed to death and they couldn't figure out why he gg'd? No, Apoc had just gotten his army Cannae'd and was dead. The casters were trying to make it seems like the game wasn't over. Context: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cannae Hannibal's a fucking patchtoss, if the game was balanced Rome would have won ez pz.
Hannibal started off with only 3 mineral patches in his main and Rome had 20. The map was imbalanced.
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On July 18 2013 09:24 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:20 Fusilero wrote:On July 18 2013 09:18 Bagration wrote:On July 18 2013 09:16 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:13 stuchiu wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Fusilero wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Bagration wrote:
What the hell are the casters talking about? This game is over BUT HE ONLY LOST HIS ARMY, GOD. idra gg. Based on Shellbot's EVERYTHING above, I assume Apoc got stormed to death and they couldn't figure out why he gg'd? No, Apoc had just gotten his army Cannae'd and was dead. The casters were trying to make it seems like the game wasn't over. Context: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cannae Hannibal's a fucking patchtoss, if the game was balanced Rome would have won ez pz. Hannibal started off with only 3 mineral patches in his main and Rome had 20. The map was imbalanced.
Hannibal used Kespa players
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On July 18 2013 09:25 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:24 stuchiu wrote:On July 18 2013 09:20 Fusilero wrote:On July 18 2013 09:18 Bagration wrote:On July 18 2013 09:16 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:13 stuchiu wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Fusilero wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Bagration wrote:
What the hell are the casters talking about? This game is over BUT HE ONLY LOST HIS ARMY, GOD. idra gg. Based on Shellbot's EVERYTHING above, I assume Apoc got stormed to death and they couldn't figure out why he gg'd? No, Apoc had just gotten his army Cannae'd and was dead. The casters were trying to make it seems like the game wasn't over. Context: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cannae Hannibal's a fucking patchtoss, if the game was balanced Rome would have won ez pz. Hannibal started off with only 3 mineral patches in his main and Rome had 20. The map was imbalanced. Hannibal used Kespa players
It's true, he did have elephants
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They are cute and I don't mind listening to the sound of them.
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On July 18 2013 09:25 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:24 stuchiu wrote:On July 18 2013 09:20 Fusilero wrote:On July 18 2013 09:18 Bagration wrote:On July 18 2013 09:16 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:13 stuchiu wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Fusilero wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Bagration wrote:
What the hell are the casters talking about? This game is over BUT HE ONLY LOST HIS ARMY, GOD. idra gg. Based on Shellbot's EVERYTHING above, I assume Apoc got stormed to death and they couldn't figure out why he gg'd? No, Apoc had just gotten his army Cannae'd and was dead. The casters were trying to make it seems like the game wasn't over. Context: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cannae Hannibal's a fucking patchtoss, if the game was balanced Rome would have won ez pz. Hannibal started off with only 3 mineral patches in his main and Rome had 20. The map was imbalanced. Hannibal used Kespa players
But they all died by the spring
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On July 18 2013 09:22 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:18 Bagration wrote:On July 18 2013 09:16 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:13 stuchiu wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Fusilero wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Bagration wrote:
What the hell are the casters talking about? This game is over BUT HE ONLY LOST HIS ARMY, GOD. idra gg. Based on Shellbot's EVERYTHING above, I assume Apoc got stormed to death and they couldn't figure out why he gg'd? No, Apoc had just gotten his army Cannae'd and was dead. The casters were trying to make it seems like the game wasn't over. Context: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cannae I wasn't familiar with that one. Thanks for the tidbit. On a separate note, any honest opinions of the casters?
I feel like the casting is too rigid (along the lines of an ESPN casting style) of over-hyping too much stuff and saying everything is great. I already know the casters from their IPL days and while I don't necessarily hate the casting, when they alternate with Bitterdam (the organic, old Tastosis casting style is what got me into being a spectator), it tends to drag for me. I prefer the much more "honest" casting where a bad or boring game is called as it is.
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On July 18 2013 09:26 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:25 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 09:24 stuchiu wrote:On July 18 2013 09:20 Fusilero wrote:On July 18 2013 09:18 Bagration wrote:On July 18 2013 09:16 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:13 stuchiu wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Fusilero wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Bagration wrote:
What the hell are the casters talking about? This game is over BUT HE ONLY LOST HIS ARMY, GOD. idra gg. Based on Shellbot's EVERYTHING above, I assume Apoc got stormed to death and they couldn't figure out why he gg'd? No, Apoc had just gotten his army Cannae'd and was dead. The casters were trying to make it seems like the game wasn't over. Context: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cannae Hannibal's a fucking patchtoss, if the game was balanced Rome would have won ez pz. Hannibal started off with only 3 mineral patches in his main and Rome had 20. The map was imbalanced. Hannibal used Kespa players But they all died by the spring
Flash to become irrelevant in 2014.
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Dancing for the opponent while revealed. Sick move.
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good old WoL phoenix colossus strat... Too bad it completely sucks
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Oh wow, mass phoenix/colossi. That's an interesting composition.
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On July 18 2013 09:22 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:18 Bagration wrote:On July 18 2013 09:16 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:13 stuchiu wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Fusilero wrote:On July 18 2013 09:12 Bagration wrote:
What the hell are the casters talking about? This game is over BUT HE ONLY LOST HIS ARMY, GOD. idra gg. Based on Shellbot's EVERYTHING above, I assume Apoc got stormed to death and they couldn't figure out why he gg'd? No, Apoc had just gotten his army Cannae'd and was dead. The casters were trying to make it seems like the game wasn't over. Context: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cannae I wasn't familiar with that one. Thanks for the tidbit. On a separate note, any honest opinions of the casters?
They are terrible. Almost as bad as the Proleague casters.
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On July 18 2013 09:34 BrokenMirage wrote:
Oh wow, mass phoenix/colossi. That's an interesting composition.
Is this a thing? Does anyone else do this?
On July 18 2013 09:35 Bagration wrote:
How many gates is that? That'll be a scary remax
At least 20. He added 11 or 12 earlier.
EDIT: 7 ghosts at a time! This game is weird.
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How many gates is that? That'll be a scary remax
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This game is why no one watches the NA scene, so boring.
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What the fuck is going on in this game...
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On July 18 2013 09:35 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:34 BrokenMirage wrote:
Oh wow, mass phoenix/colossi. That's an interesting composition. Is this a thing? Does anyone else do this? Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:35 Bagration wrote:
How many gates is that? That'll be a scary remax At least 20. He added 11 or 12 earlier. EDIT: 7 ghosts at a time! This game is weird.
Jim went phoenix colossus in his one macro PvT yesterday against Major
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On July 18 2013 09:35 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:34 BrokenMirage wrote:
Oh wow, mass phoenix/colossi. That's an interesting composition. Is this a thing? Does anyone else do this?
I can't imagine this being a very good composition. I don't like Phoenixes as a late game unit, especially when Protoss have better siege units like that the Tempest.
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On July 18 2013 09:37 Mackus wrote:
This game is why no one watches the NA scene, so boring.
I second this.
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On July 18 2013 09:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:35 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:34 BrokenMirage wrote:
Oh wow, mass phoenix/colossi. That's an interesting composition. Is this a thing? Does anyone else do this? On July 18 2013 09:35 Bagration wrote:
How many gates is that? That'll be a scary remax At least 20. He added 11 or 12 earlier. EDIT: 7 ghosts at a time! This game is weird. Jim went phoenix colossus in his one macro PvT yesterday against Major
Missed all of Jim's games yesterday. Neeb stands no chance here, right? Mingun can basically make whatever he wants.
On July 18 2013 09:37 Mackus wrote:
This game is why no one watches the NA scene, so boring.
15k is no one? EU had 25k and has the time zone advantage.
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On July 18 2013 09:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Manner carrier?
Sad state of the unit...
Isn't the phoenix hotkey X? It's next to C so he could have miss hit if C is the carrier hotkey.
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On July 18 2013 09:40 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 09:35 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:34 BrokenMirage wrote:
Oh wow, mass phoenix/colossi. That's an interesting composition. Is this a thing? Does anyone else do this? On July 18 2013 09:35 Bagration wrote:
How many gates is that? That'll be a scary remax At least 20. He added 11 or 12 earlier. EDIT: 7 ghosts at a time! This game is weird. Jim went phoenix colossus in his one macro PvT yesterday against Major Missed all of Jim's games yesterday. Neeb stands no chance here, right? Mingun can basically make whatever he wants. Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:37 Mackus wrote:
This game is why no one watches the NA scene, so boring. 15k is no one? EU had 25k and has the time zone advantage.
They're all dead of boredom and cant close the tab whilst their dead, sorry.
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On July 18 2013 09:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Manner carrier?
This is kinda unique.
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On July 18 2013 09:42 AgentW wrote:Sad state of the unit... Isn't the phoenix hotkey X? It's next to C so he could have miss hit if C is the carrier hotkey.
doesnt look like it with a 2nd building
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This carrier is probably just to tank vikings.
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On July 18 2013 09:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:42 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Manner carrier? Sad state of the unit... Isn't the phoenix hotkey X? It's next to C so he could have miss hit if C is the carrier hotkey. doesnt look like it with a 2nd building
He was making a phoenix at the same time as the first carrier, so perhaps the phoenix was the miss hit.
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why would you go to the ultra ultra late game vs. a protoss if your name isn't Innovation
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Lol, wtf happened to Robin's mic?
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On July 18 2013 09:44 ref4 wrote:
why would you go to the ultra ultra late game vs. a protoss if your name isn't Innovation
The planetary kind of hurt him. It allowed Minigun to zone him with a single storm. He couldn't walk into the open.
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Robin's mic kind of broke down towards the end of that, I hope they fix it during the break.
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On July 18 2013 09:44 ref4 wrote:
why would you go to the ultra ultra late game vs. a protoss if your name isn't Innovation
It was poorly played by neeb. Neeb had a huge advantage late midgame, and instead of killing minigun turtled really hard while minigun just went up to 90 or so probes, and went for the mass production facilities build.
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was building too many ghost and on top of that, didn't really use ghost all that well
needed to build more barracks and more straight up fire power
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On July 18 2013 09:40 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 09:35 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:34 BrokenMirage wrote:
Oh wow, mass phoenix/colossi. That's an interesting composition. Is this a thing? Does anyone else do this? On July 18 2013 09:35 Bagration wrote:
How many gates is that? That'll be a scary remax At least 20. He added 11 or 12 earlier. EDIT: 7 ghosts at a time! This game is weird. Jim went phoenix colossus in his one macro PvT yesterday against Major Missed all of Jim's games yesterday. Neeb stands no chance here, right? Mingun can basically make whatever he wants. Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:37 Mackus wrote:
This game is why no one watches the NA scene, so boring. 15k is no one? EU had 25k and has the time zone advantage.
EU maxed out on 41k today (unless my math failed me). There were six streams to be combined I think.
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On July 18 2013 09:44 ref4 wrote:
why would you go to the ultra ultra late game vs. a protoss if your name isn't Innovation
That's how Neeb plays. Its a boring, annoying style to play against. Akilon and Newkirk are the only maps where this could work.
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On July 18 2013 09:38 BlackPanther wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:35 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:34 BrokenMirage wrote:
Oh wow, mass phoenix/colossi. That's an interesting composition. Is this a thing? Does anyone else do this? I can't imagine this being a very good composition. I don't like Phoenixes as a late game unit, especially when Protoss have better siege units like that the Tempest.
Yes it is, and it's freaking strong.
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My god, I normally don't watch WCS America because of timezones, but is the casting always this terrible?
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On July 18 2013 09:49 MuazizTremere wrote:
My god, I normally don't watch WCS America because of timezones, but is the casting always this terrible?
They had Bitterdam for the first 2 days
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On July 18 2013 09:45 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:44 ref4 wrote:
why would you go to the ultra ultra late game vs. a protoss if your name isn't Innovation The planetary kind of hurt him. It allowed Minigun to zone him with a single storm. He couldn't walk into the open.
not even that, but just sitting passively on your ass, not dropping and not attacking, meanwhile
the protoss gets more bases than you
the protoss gets 80 warpgates
the protoss loses 1 engagement? 2 engagements? 3 engagements? 4 engagements? No problem. Instant wrap in however many zealots his supply allows and own the Terran
I mean it doesn't make an microgram of common sense to be that passive vs. a Protoss. Ok maybe Thorzain can pull it off once in a blue moon, when the stars align and when Michael Jackson comes back from the dead.
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On July 18 2013 09:49 MuazizTremere wrote:
My god, I normally don't watch WCS America because of timezones, but is the casting always this terrible?
They're okay, but when you have a Terran turtling behind 4 planataries for 30 minutes you can't really hype the match properly.
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On July 18 2013 09:47 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:40 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 09:35 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:34 BrokenMirage wrote:
Oh wow, mass phoenix/colossi. That's an interesting composition. Is this a thing? Does anyone else do this? On July 18 2013 09:35 Bagration wrote:
How many gates is that? That'll be a scary remax At least 20. He added 11 or 12 earlier. EDIT: 7 ghosts at a time! This game is weird. Jim went phoenix colossus in his one macro PvT yesterday against Major Missed all of Jim's games yesterday. Neeb stands no chance here, right? Mingun can basically make whatever he wants. On July 18 2013 09:37 Mackus wrote:
This game is why no one watches the NA scene, so boring. 15k is no one? EU had 25k and has the time zone advantage. EU maxed out on 41k today (unless my math failed me). There were six streams to be combined I think.
I was only counting the English streams, but I think that brings up an important point. How many people watch WCS EU in their native language and watch WCS AM in English? A direct comparison of the English streams wouldn't account for this.
On July 18 2013 09:50 ref4 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:45 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:44 ref4 wrote:
why would you go to the ultra ultra late game vs. a protoss if your name isn't Innovation The planetary kind of hurt him. It allowed Minigun to zone him with a single storm. He couldn't walk into the open. not even that, but just sitting passively on your ass, not dropping and not attacking, meanwhile the protoss gets more bases than you the protoss gets 80 warpgates the protoss loses 1 engagement? 2 engagements? 3 engagements? 4 engagements? No problem. Instant wrap in however many zealots his supply allows and own the Terran I mean it doesn't make an microgram of common sense to be that passive vs. a Protoss. Ok maybe Thorzain can pull it off once in a blue moon, when the stars align and when Michael Jackson comes back from the dead.
Forgot he didn't attempt to drop him. With all of Minigun's army sitting in front of his base, some marauder drops or anything really could have been very effective. Was it out of fear of the phoenix?
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On July 18 2013 09:49 MuazizTremere wrote:
My god, I normally don't watch WCS America because of timezones, but is the casting always this terrible?
There's a rotation of Bitterdam and Kibbelz/Robin. Gretorp and Frodan are doing a good portion of Challenger League as well.
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On July 18 2013 09:50 ref4 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:45 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:44 ref4 wrote:
why would you go to the ultra ultra late game vs. a protoss if your name isn't Innovation The planetary kind of hurt him. It allowed Minigun to zone him with a single storm. He couldn't walk into the open. not even that, but just sitting passively on your ass, not dropping and not attacking, meanwhile the protoss gets more bases than you the protoss gets 80 warpgates the protoss loses 1 engagement? 2 engagements? 3 engagements? 4 engagements? No problem. Instant wrap in however many zealots his supply allows and own the Terran I mean it doesn't make an microgram of common sense to be that passive vs. a Protoss. Ok maybe Thorzain can pull it off once in a blue moon, when the stars align and when Michael Jackson comes back from the dead.
Didn't work against Hasuobs. T-funk got crushed on Derelict watcher playing like that.
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On July 18 2013 09:52 YoungTyTy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:50 ref4 wrote:On July 18 2013 09:45 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:44 ref4 wrote:
why would you go to the ultra ultra late game vs. a protoss if your name isn't Innovation The planetary kind of hurt him. It allowed Minigun to zone him with a single storm. He couldn't walk into the open. not even that, but just sitting passively on your ass, not dropping and not attacking, meanwhile the protoss gets more bases than you the protoss gets 80 warpgates the protoss loses 1 engagement? 2 engagements? 3 engagements? 4 engagements? No problem. Instant wrap in however many zealots his supply allows and own the Terran I mean it doesn't make an microgram of common sense to be that passive vs. a Protoss. Ok maybe Thorzain can pull it off once in a blue moon, when the stars align and when Michael Jackson comes back from the dead. Didn't work against Hasuobs. T-funk got crushed on Derelict watcher playing like that.
enforcing my point further
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These casters seem to have trouble reading. I can forgive a lot but this is just getting sad.
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Wow Neeb had a free Nexus snipe and bottled it
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On July 18 2013 09:54 ref4 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:52 YoungTyTy wrote:On July 18 2013 09:50 ref4 wrote:On July 18 2013 09:45 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:44 ref4 wrote:
why would you go to the ultra ultra late game vs. a protoss if your name isn't Innovation The planetary kind of hurt him. It allowed Minigun to zone him with a single storm. He couldn't walk into the open. not even that, but just sitting passively on your ass, not dropping and not attacking, meanwhile the protoss gets more bases than you the protoss gets 80 warpgates the protoss loses 1 engagement? 2 engagements? 3 engagements? 4 engagements? No problem. Instant wrap in however many zealots his supply allows and own the Terran I mean it doesn't make an microgram of common sense to be that passive vs. a Protoss. Ok maybe Thorzain can pull it off once in a blue moon, when the stars align and when Michael Jackson comes back from the dead. Didn't work against Hasuobs. T-funk got crushed on Derelict watcher playing like that. enforcing my point further
Well to be fair everything crushes Thorzain nowadays + Show Spoiler +
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On July 18 2013 10:03 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Game 3 D: we might get a non PvT today
Variety in game types? no way!
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On July 18 2013 09:48 NOFX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 09:38 BlackPanther wrote:On July 18 2013 09:35 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 09:34 BrokenMirage wrote:
Oh wow, mass phoenix/colossi. That's an interesting composition. Is this a thing? Does anyone else do this? I can't imagine this being a very good composition. I don't like Phoenixes as a late game unit, especially when Protoss have better siege units like that the Tempest. Yes it is, and it's freaking strong.
The problem with collosi phoenix is that it doesn't exploit Terran production like collosi, archon, templar. If you make phoenix collosi, all I need to do as Terran is make lots of vikings. If you do collosi archon templar, I now need to balance my army composition between ghost and vikings and too much of either and not enough of the other can be easily exploited by the protoss.
Phoenixes don't do enough damage to vikings to make them worthwhile in the composition. The vikings can just focus down the collosi and then land to avoid the phoenix fire.
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On July 18 2013 10:04 Erraa93 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 10:03 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Game 3 D: we might get a non PvT today Variety in game types? no way!
variety denied
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Alright I've seen this one already. g'night
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well that's probably one of the worst ways to get knocked out
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On July 18 2013 10:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 10:04 Erraa93 wrote:On July 18 2013 10:03 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Game 3 D: we might get a non PvT today Variety in game types? no way! variety denied
TvT denied!
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On July 18 2013 10:15 Erraa93 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 10:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 10:04 Erraa93 wrote:On July 18 2013 10:03 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Game 3 D: we might get a non PvT today Variety in game types? no way! variety denied TvT denied!
p.s I was away for like 5 minutes what the hell happened?
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On July 18 2013 10:15 Erraa93 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 10:15 Erraa93 wrote:On July 18 2013 10:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 10:04 Erraa93 wrote:On July 18 2013 10:03 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Game 3 D: we might get a non PvT today Variety in game types? no way! variety denied TvT denied! p.s I was away for like 5 minutes what the hell happened?
he attacked with a zealot, stalker, and msc. Neeb didnt have a bunker finished in time.
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Silly question... but is the rightmost column in this countdown 30ths of seconds?
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On July 18 2013 10:19 aristarchus wrote:
Silly question... but is the rightmost column in this countdown 30ths of seconds?
haha I just noticed that. Yeah I guess so
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^Neeb also went reactor first and only had one reaper for defense basically. Minigun also chrono'd his units out so Neeb was pretty screwed.
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This LR thread completely died -.-.
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I think it just got to the point where it was too late for the europeans so that group of people left
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All of the sudden Apoc is down 30 supply, but he does have a lot of vikings and Minigun only has phoenix and colossus.
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Minigun's ground upgrades are really late
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On July 18 2013 10:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Minigun's ground upgrades are really late
They were super late against Neeb too. Neeb had 3-3 on the way when Minigun had 0-1 on the way.
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God damnit Twitch! This is why monopolies are bad. Now that Ownd3d and Azubu are dead, we suddenly see a drastic decrease in twitch quality. Coincidence?
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On July 18 2013 10:37 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 10:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Minigun's ground upgrades are really late They were super late against Neeb too. Neeb had 3-3 on the way when Minigun had 0-1 on the way.
ah I didn't notice. I guess it's a drawback from this style from him. He makes a lot more phoenixes than Jim and Jim was pretty good on his upgrades
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Buffer into Minigun's army somehow killing Apoc's.
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On July 18 2013 10:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 10:37 AgentW wrote:On July 18 2013 10:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Minigun's ground upgrades are really late They were super late against Neeb too. Neeb had 3-3 on the way when Minigun had 0-1 on the way. ah I didn't notice. I guess it's a drawback from this style from him. He makes a lot more phoenixes than Jim and Jim was pretty good on his upgrades
His upgrades were okay in Game 1 versus Neeb and pretty bad in Game 2. We didn't get to see any in Game 3.
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This is a really enjoyable powerpoint that Twitch put together. They even added sound for each slide
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colossi without anything to buffer are pretty silly but Minigun should just have too many resources for Apocalypse to hold on here imo
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On July 18 2013 10:40 Bagration wrote:
This is a really enjoyable powerpoint that Twitch put together. They even added sound for each slide
I usually am fine when people are complaining about the lag, but it's pretty rough today. D:
On July 18 2013 10:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
colossi without anything to buffer are pretty silly but Minigun should just have too many resources for Apocalypse to hold on here imo
Yeah, he's cooked.
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If Minigun would only drop 10 more warpgates this would end much sooner. Floating so much resources.
Oh, there we go, gg.
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Pretty cool play by minigun ! I'm impressed by how well he played (maybe aside from the colosssi flank  )
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On July 18 2013 10:43 garbanzo wrote:
If Minigun would only drop 10 more warpgates this would end much sooner. Floating so much resources.
Oh, there we go, gg.
its sad that someone with such bad mechanics can win against a korean terran easily.
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On July 18 2013 10:45 Irre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 10:43 garbanzo wrote:
If Minigun would only drop 10 more warpgates this would end much sooner. Floating so much resources.
Oh, there we go, gg. its sad that someone with such bad mechanics can win against a korean terran easily.
You've got to kidding me...
In their earlier series, Apocalypse was missing so many SCVs for absolutely no reason, he's not exactly a powerhouse when it comes to mechanics either.
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On July 18 2013 10:45 Irre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 10:43 garbanzo wrote:
If Minigun would only drop 10 more warpgates this would end much sooner. Floating so much resources.
Oh, there we go, gg. its sad that someone with such bad mechanics can win against a korean terran easily.
If you're going to be that snippy, you should blame Apocalypse for losing to someone with such "bad mechanics."
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On July 18 2013 10:46 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 10:45 Irre wrote:On July 18 2013 10:43 garbanzo wrote:
If Minigun would only drop 10 more warpgates this would end much sooner. Floating so much resources.
Oh, there we go, gg. its sad that someone with such bad mechanics can win against a korean terran easily. You've got to kidding me... In their earlier series, Apocalypse was missing so many SCVs for absolutely no reason, he's not exactly a powerhouse when it comes to mechanics either.
His series last season against Nestea was one of the most dreadful displays of mechanics I've seen from a Korean terran
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On July 18 2013 10:46 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 10:45 Irre wrote:On July 18 2013 10:43 garbanzo wrote:
If Minigun would only drop 10 more warpgates this would end much sooner. Floating so much resources.
Oh, there we go, gg. its sad that someone with such bad mechanics can win against a korean terran easily. You've got to kidding me... In their earlier series, Apocalypse was missing so many SCVs for absolutely no reason, he's not exactly a powerhouse when it comes to mechanics either.
I'm not really sure what's wrong with what he said. All you really added was that this particular Korean Terran also has really bad mechanics, but his statement still stands...
On July 18 2013 10:46 DinosaurJones wrote:
If you're going to be that snippy, you should blame Apocalypse for losing to someone with such "bad mechanics."
This response makes more sense.
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On July 18 2013 10:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 10:46 Mordiford wrote:On July 18 2013 10:45 Irre wrote:On July 18 2013 10:43 garbanzo wrote:
If Minigun would only drop 10 more warpgates this would end much sooner. Floating so much resources.
Oh, there we go, gg. its sad that someone with such bad mechanics can win against a korean terran easily. You've got to kidding me... In their earlier series, Apocalypse was missing so many SCVs for absolutely no reason, he's not exactly a powerhouse when it comes to mechanics either. His series last season against Nestea was one of the most dreadful displays of mechanics I've seen from a Korean terran
Professional Korean Terran
Speaking of which, I actually beat a Korean Terran once. He was some Korean guy from California who played SC2 but was horrible. Could barely stop a 6 pool :p
/end brag
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I think it'd be fantastic if Minigun can close this out.
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On July 18 2013 10:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I think it'd be fantastic if Minigun can close this out.
Yeah, that would be a pretty big surprise.
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This is another problem with phoenix/colossus. You get your ground upgrades so late.
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Minigun should invest in shields instead. Not sure why he's getting +1 ground and air armor.
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3 weeks straight now, twitch is unbearable at anything higher than 360-480
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I guess this style works if your opponent isn't going to make his vikings focus on the colossi.
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Leave for half an hour, Minigun sitting pretty, apoc doesnt wanna target colossi...
Edit: oh there we go
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pretty bad colossus micro `~`
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Damn, should have gotten storm earlier instead of warping in all those stalkers...and threw away like 5 colossi.
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Wow, such a late transition to HT. With no more phoenix to buffer the damage the colossi are just falling over.
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Well I'm glad Minigun didn't manage to throw this game away
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Surely he's actually going to finally go on and win this game, right? Right?
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This game is actually pretty amazing
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On July 18 2013 11:07 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Well I'm glad Minigun didn't manage to throw this game away
Well, Apocalypse was nice enough to catch the storms instead of the game.
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On July 18 2013 11:08 garbanzo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 11:07 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Well I'm glad Minigun didn't manage to throw this game away Well, Apocalypse was nice enough to catch the storms instead of the game.
pretty much the story of apocalypse tonight
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im still surprised apocalypse hasnt cleared the debris at his right side base...
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On July 18 2013 11:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 11:08 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2013 11:07 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Well I'm glad Minigun didn't manage to throw this game away Well, Apocalypse was nice enough to catch the storms instead of the game. pretty much the story of apocalypse tonight
Storms too tasty to resist
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even when he emped the whole army he lost the battle so i dont think it even matters. cant let protoss have a fast 3rd...its suicide
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Well congratulations Chadwick! Good to see him progress
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Wow, that was...something else.
Congrats Minigun!
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Only tuned in for the last match. Thought the games were pretty subpar -- so many sloppy mistakes by both.
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So far, Koreans and foreigners doing equally well in WCS America! Hope it's not all lag...
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On July 18 2013 11:13 imareaver3 wrote:
So far, Koreans and foreigners doing equally well in WCS America! Hope it's not all lag...
Scarlett beat HerO with both playing from KR on NA
Jim probably has worse lag from China than the Koreans
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On July 18 2013 11:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 11:13 imareaver3 wrote:
So far, Koreans and foreigners doing equally well in WCS America! Hope it's not all lag... Scarlett beat HerO with both playing from KR on NA
Yeah. Also, I think it's generally accepted that lag doesn't play a big role in KR to NA games.
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Happy for Minigun but holy smokes was that sloppy play. WCS Amateur over here. (Eh, maybe that was too harsh to be honest).
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On July 18 2013 11:15 garbanzo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 11:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 18 2013 11:13 imareaver3 wrote:
So far, Koreans and foreigners doing equally well in WCS America! Hope it's not all lag... Scarlett beat HerO with both playing from KR on NA Yeah. Also, I think it's generally accepted that lag doesn't play a big role in KR to NA games.
Several pros have said this so yea pretty much
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Apocalypse must have been hungry tonight,
because he was eating storms like he was starving
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On July 18 2013 11:15 TheDougler wrote:
Happy for Minigun but holy smokes was that sloppy play. WCS Amateur over here. (Eh, maybe that was too harsh to be honest).
I think it was more accurate than it was harsh.
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On July 18 2013 11:15 TheDougler wrote:
Happy for Minigun but holy smokes was that sloppy play. WCS Amateur over here. (Eh, maybe that was too harsh to be honest).
It's one of those questions that keep me up at night: Should casters point out the mistakes and criticize bad play (Khaldor-Wolf style) or should they try to focus on positives?
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Minigun's stargate PvT is pretty cool to watch though, and it worked really well for him today so congrats! Still think he should stop building them lategame though, especially once they were just being rallied into death.
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On July 18 2013 11:13 imareaver3 wrote:
So far, Koreans and foreigners doing equally well in WCS America! Hope it's not all lag...
WCS AM Season 1 Round of 32
11/13 Koreans Advanced (84.6%)
5/19 Foreigners Advanced (26.3%)
WCS AM Season 2 Round of 32 So Far
3/6 Koreans Advanced (50.0%)
3/6 Foreigners Advanced (50.0%)
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On July 18 2013 11:18 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 11:15 TheDougler wrote:
Happy for Minigun but holy smokes was that sloppy play. WCS Amateur over here. (Eh, maybe that was too harsh to be honest). It's one of those questions that keep me up at night: Should casters point out the mistakes and criticize bad play (Khaldor-Wolf style) or should they try to focus on positives?
Right!?! Tough to say, it kind of has to be done on a game by game basis. I mean, if its a big finals game then you gotta focus on the positives, and I suppose there's something to be said for the underdog story being better if the negatives are forgotten... That said, the lack of micro in that last game was kind of rough to watch at times especially when the casters are lauding the play so much.
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On July 18 2013 11:18 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 11:15 TheDougler wrote:
Happy for Minigun but holy smokes was that sloppy play. WCS Amateur over here. (Eh, maybe that was too harsh to be honest). It's one of those questions that keep me up at night: Should casters point out the mistakes and criticize bad play (Khaldor-Wolf style) or should they try to focus on positives?
I think you can do both without harping on the negatives or hyping the positives. I think the latter annoys me more. Storms are rarely "good," most of the time it's bad dodging.
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On July 18 2013 11:24 garbanzo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 11:18 Bagration wrote:On July 18 2013 11:15 TheDougler wrote:
Happy for Minigun but holy smokes was that sloppy play. WCS Amateur over here. (Eh, maybe that was too harsh to be honest). It's one of those questions that keep me up at night: Should casters point out the mistakes and criticize bad play (Khaldor-Wolf style) or should they try to focus on positives? I think you can do both without harping on the negatives or hyping the positives. I think the latter annoys me more. Storms are rarely "good," most of the time it's bad dodging.
I'm of this same opinion. I'll stress the word opinion because it's just that; however, I feel that when every play is hailed as great it really lessens the wow factor of plays that are actually amazing.
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To be fair, I dont think this foreigner advancing distribution is too surprising so far. The first group I think it was more of Oz getting through rather than HerO from what people would have expected (hey I could be wrong and maybe most people thought it would be HerO + Oz but my gut feeling was HerO + Scarlett). Then in the second group it wasn't really surprising to see Jim advance over Nestea considering Jim has looked very strong in his games and him reaching #1 on KR GM. Today, while still an upset, also wasn't a complete shock imo considering how close Minigun got to beating Apocalypse last season.
Theres a guarantee for 1 more foreigner to advance with Group D having 3 foreigners + Jaedong. Next best chance is probably Demuslim over TheStC or Crank. Suppy and theognis are going to have their work cut out for them against aLive and Sage. mOOnGLaDE and XY are most likely screwed against TaeJa and Polt although it's not impossible, just unlikely. Then Top is in a group with 3 Koreans. I think we'll likely see 5 foreigners in the Ro16 (same as last season).
The 5 being: Scarlett, Jim, Minigun, Snute, and Demuslim imo
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On July 18 2013 11:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Theres a guarantee for 1 more foreigner to advance with Group D having 3 foreigners + Jaedong. Next best chance is probably Demuslim over TheStC or Crank. Suppy and theognis are going to have their work cut out for them against aLive and Sage. mOOnGLaDE and XY are most likely screwed against TaeJa and Polt although it's not impossible, just unlikely. Then Top is in a group with 3 Koreans. I think we'll likely see 5 foreigners in the Ro16 (same as last season).
The 5 being: Scarlett, Jim, Minigun, Snute, and Demuslim imo
Yeah, after looking at the rest of the groups, I would agree that this is likely to be the case.
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On July 18 2013 11:15 TheDougler wrote:
Happy for Minigun but holy smokes was that sloppy play. WCS Amateur over here. (Eh, maybe that was too harsh to be honest).
I really got the impression in that last series that nerves were getting the better of both players. It was a pretty intense situation for both to be in and it looked like some of their decision making and control suffered. I've definitely seen both players play much better games than that.
But congratulations to Minigun for the big win and advancing.
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It also helps that the foreigners in this season of WCS America are far better than the invitees of last season. State, hellokitty, Capoch, Fenix, Maker, and Killer are nowhere near the level of puCK, DeMusliM, and the Chinese players.
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On July 18 2013 11:50 Branman wrote:
It also helps that the foreigners in this season of WCS America are far better than the invitees of last season. State, hellokitty, Capoch, Fenix, Maker, and Killer are nowhere near the level of puCK, DeMusliM, and the Chinese players.
It's unfair to lump State and Killer with players like Maker and Capoch. State and Killer both were able to beat Koreans in Bo3
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On July 18 2013 12:31 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 11:50 Branman wrote:
It also helps that the foreigners in this season of WCS America are far better than the invitees of last season. State, hellokitty, Capoch, Fenix, Maker, and Killer are nowhere near the level of puCK, DeMusliM, and the Chinese players. It's unfair to lump State and Killer with players like Maker and Capoch. State and Killer both were able to beat Koreans in Bo3
Agreed. I just made a list of the invitees who dropped out.
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On July 18 2013 11:50 Branman wrote:
It also helps that the foreigners in this season of WCS America are far better than the invitees of last season. State, hellokitty, Capoch, Fenix, Maker, and Killer are nowhere near the level of puCK, DeMusliM, and the Chinese players.
are you saying that me beating a korean makes me a shit player?
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On July 18 2013 11:18 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 11:15 TheDougler wrote:
Happy for Minigun but holy smokes was that sloppy play. WCS Amateur over here. (Eh, maybe that was too harsh to be honest). It's one of those questions that keep me up at night: Should casters point out the mistakes and criticize bad play (Khaldor-Wolf style) or should they try to focus on positives?
I mostly have a problem with caster casting a game with two lesser players (relative to the best of the world) and just take the easy road out and criticize everything they do needlessly. It would be like a professional commentator casting a game from a lower division in soccer and just keep bashing them because they are not doing things as well as Barcelona. That's not how you do it. You cast to the level of play you are seeing and you don't point out the same things in a game between two NA pros as you do in a game with two of the best Korean's playing each other. Same goes for the praise.
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On July 18 2013 15:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:
YEAAAAAAAH Chadwick!
Community preview so close
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Minigun got his revenge? Not bad, Chad.
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Never excpected Minigun to get out, good job
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good performance by minigun, not a high quality group thou, i think apocalypse is one of the weakest "pro" terrans next to dragon
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On July 18 2013 14:06 hellokittySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 11:50 Branman wrote:
It also helps that the foreigners in this season of WCS America are far better than the invitees of last season. State, hellokitty, Capoch, Fenix, Maker, and Killer are nowhere near the level of puCK, DeMusliM, and the Chinese players. are you saying that me beating a korean makes me a shit player?
No, he's not saying that you're shit, he's saying that you're not at the skill level of the latter group. Beating /a/ Korean is not a measure of skill in and of itself (and that Korean completely bombed out of WCS, which IS an indication of his skill level).
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On July 18 2013 19:49 Sirrush wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 14:06 hellokittySC2 wrote:On July 18 2013 11:50 Branman wrote:
It also helps that the foreigners in this season of WCS America are far better than the invitees of last season. State, hellokitty, Capoch, Fenix, Maker, and Killer are nowhere near the level of puCK, DeMusliM, and the Chinese players. are you saying that me beating a korean makes me a shit player? No, he's not saying that you're shit, he's saying that you're not at the skill level of the latter group. Beating /a/ Korean is not a measure of skill in and of itself (and that Korean completely bombed out of WCS, which IS an indication of his skill level).
But it's not like puck or the Chinese players, or even demuslim that he mentioned have all that much results to speak of either. Seems a bit random to draw the line there.
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On July 18 2013 21:07 nihlon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 19:49 Sirrush wrote:On July 18 2013 14:06 hellokittySC2 wrote:On July 18 2013 11:50 Branman wrote:
It also helps that the foreigners in this season of WCS America are far better than the invitees of last season. State, hellokitty, Capoch, Fenix, Maker, and Killer are nowhere near the level of puCK, DeMusliM, and the Chinese players. are you saying that me beating a korean makes me a shit player? No, he's not saying that you're shit, he's saying that you're not at the skill level of the latter group. Beating /a/ Korean is not a measure of skill in and of itself (and that Korean completely bombed out of WCS, which IS an indication of his skill level). But it's not like puck or the Chinese players, or even demuslim that he mentioned have all that much results to speak of either. Seems a bit random to draw the line there.
Puck defeated two Koreans to get into Challenger (Sage & HyuN), most of the Chinese players defeated multiple Korean in both Challenger and Premier Qualifiers and then again in their Challenger League brackets/groups, as did DeMusliM. The people on the first list were all given free passes into Premier League and then failed to retain those spots (and two of those even dropped out of Challenger), while the latter three fought their way in from the qualifiers against Premier level competition.
Not /that/ arbitrary, tbh.
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