People saying that was well executed from either side need to watch squirtle vs mvp to see squirtle hold that off without a nexus cannon, and to watch mvp not get horrendously supply capped. Too bad about the huge throw from squirtle at the end though :p

F.O.A.D.

Canada100 Posts

July 14 2013 06:11 GMT

#782

SNM's lisp makes me want to drown kittens.

StarStruck

25339 Posts

July 14 2013 06:11 GMT

#783

On July 14 2013 15:09 IntoTheheart wrote:

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I wouldn't lose faith in the ace. SKT know what they're doing.

Er... they've sent Rain out more than any other player in Aces and he's only 55% where he alternates: loss, win, loss, win, loss, win, win loss, loss, win, win. Notice the trend?

GolemMadness

Canada11044 Posts

July 14 2013 06:11 GMT

#784

What is going on with this music...?

figq

12519 Posts

July 14 2013 06:11 GMT

#785

On July 14 2013 15:09 IntoTheheart wrote:

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I wouldn't lose faith in the ace. SKT know what they're doing.

I'm just disappointed that Rain is so bad in PvP and lost twice in this series - to Dear (last match) and to Trap. In practice, if he won these two matches, SKT would have now advanced 2-0. But he failed twice and will likely fail ultimately now. Just think of the psychological pressure on him after such deciding losses.

zefreak

United States2731 Posts

July 14 2013 06:12 GMT

#786

On July 14 2013 15:11 StarStruck wrote:

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Er... they've sent Rain out more than any other player in Aces and he's only 55% where he alternates: loss, win, loss, win, loss, win, win loss, loss, win, win. Notice the trend?

I would trust Rain's PvT more than anyone else right now

intotheheart

Canada33091 Posts

July 14 2013 06:12 GMT

#787

On July 14 2013 15:11 StarStruck wrote:

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Er... they've sent Rain out more than any other player in Aces and he's only 55% where he alternates: loss, win, loss, win, loss, win, win loss, loss, win, win. Notice the trend?

Then let's hope that he pulls it together. Maybe this is how BoxeR coaches: "You will play ace games and get self-shamed into winning."

Heartland

Sweden24592 Posts

July 14 2013 06:12 GMT

#788

I got the same pose as that girl right now

GolemMadness

Canada11044 Posts

July 14 2013 06:12 GMT

#789

OH GOD STOP THIS MUSIC

DarkPlasmaBall

United States45088 Posts

July 14 2013 06:12 GMT

#790

Rain is 5-7 against Innovation, and he won the last game they played against each other.

I'd say that Rain can measure up to Innovation. He can win.

edgeOut

United States945 Posts

July 14 2013 06:12 GMT

#791

On July 14 2013 15:11 GolemMadness wrote:
What is going on with this music...?

Spotv lost audio from OGN, no in-game sounds for this game I guess.

Alabasern

United States4005 Posts

July 14 2013 06:13 GMT

#792

On July 14 2013 15:11 sc2superfan101 wrote:

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On July 14 2013 15:09 Alabasern wrote:

On July 14 2013 15:07 sc2superfan101 wrote:

On July 14 2013 15:06 Alabasern wrote:

On July 14 2013 15:02 sc2superfan101 wrote:

On July 14 2013 14:45 HolyArrow wrote:

On July 14 2013 14:43 sc2superfan101 wrote:

On July 14 2013 14:41 xXFireandIceXx wrote:

On July 14 2013 14:40 sc2superfan101 wrote:

On July 14 2013 14:34 xsnac wrote:
man i CANT STAND ANYMORE THOSE CASTERS !! fuck i got tired of soo much miscall " best will defend here and best attacked wtf is 2 best players "

I literally have no idea what you're even trying to say, and therefore reject this criticism out of hand.

I like both casters.

I tried but SNM and Whiplash just don't have that much value-add as commentators. Almost always play-by-play

That's not a huge deal though, and they do analyze stuff.

Afaik they are both masters on KR server, so better than 90% of their detractors.

Being masters on the KR server doesn't imply that you'll be a good caster, and I really don't want to explain why the "well let's see you do better" argument is flawed for the 100th time.

Every caster makes miscalls. And I hate it when people who definitely wouldn't have made the right call (as evidenced by their lack of skill in the game) use 20/20 hindsight to rag on casters for making miscalls. It's not "let's see you do better" it's "it's easy to say that now that it happened."

On July 14 2013 14:45 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Also, SNM can translate and is very knowledgeable about the scene. That puts him above most other (all) casters in that respect.

The most important part about being a caster is, y'know, being good at casting - clearly articulating yourself and the complexities of the game in an enjoyable way. Being able to translate has nothing to do with being a caster. Knowledge of the scene helps, but it should be a supplementary strength that merely supports great casting ability.

They clearly articulate themselves and they can articulate the complexities of the game in an enjoyable way, imo. And no, having a knowledge of the scene and being able to translate ARE qualities that are useful to a caster.

I think what he means is all the knowledge available to you doesn't help if you cannot speak/think clearly or harmonize well with your co-caster.

My point is that they do speak/think clearly and harmonize well...

Your use of quotes is confusing me.

I don't know why you did that weird spoiler but that's what fucked it up... lol

My bad, just trying to minimize my post-footprint on the page/thread. I read what you typed though. I haven't been listening on Twitch for a couple weeks, so your opinion is welcome.

aZealot

New Zealand5447 Posts

July 14 2013 06:13 GMT

#793

On July 14 2013 15:12 Heartland wrote:
I got the same pose as that girl right now

It's good to know the game can bring out that level of anticipation and excitement!

intotheheart

Canada33091 Posts

July 14 2013 06:13 GMT

#794

On July 14 2013 15:13 aZealot wrote:

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It's good to know the game can bring out that level of anticipation and excitement!

No matter where you are in the world, SPL is SPL.

Tachion

Canada8573 Posts

July 14 2013 06:13 GMT

#795

On July 14 2013 15:12 edgeOut wrote:

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Spotv lost audio from OGN, no in-game sounds for this game I guess.

Watch Korean stream!

so much better

figq

12519 Posts

July 14 2013 06:14 GMT

#796

Shit, I was alt-tab and I hear them talking over some dance music, so I assume the match hasn't started yet. Lol, ogn.

intotheheart

Canada33091 Posts

July 14 2013 06:14 GMT

#797

Well that bunker failed.

edit: into 3CC from Innovation.

Alabasern

United States4005 Posts

July 14 2013 06:14 GMT

#798

On July 14 2013 15:11 F.O.A.D. wrote:
SNM's lisp makes me want to drown kittens.

Oh yoouuuu...but seriously I'm sorry Youtube denys access to the Korean stream in your area of the world. The world's a fucked up clusterfuck of "rules" and laws.