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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44375 Posts
July 14 2013 06:02 GMT
#741
Rain's going to be devastated if he loses again...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
July 14 2013 06:02 GMT
#742
On July 14 2013 14:45 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 14:43 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:41 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:40 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:34 xsnac wrote:
man i CANT STAND ANYMORE THOSE CASTERS !! fuck i got tired of soo much miscall " best will defend here and best attacked wtf is 2 best players "

I literally have no idea what you're even trying to say, and therefore reject this criticism out of hand.

I like both casters.

I tried but SNM and Whiplash just don't have that much value-add as commentators. Almost always play-by-play

That's not a huge deal though, and they do analyze stuff.

Afaik they are both masters on KR server, so better than 90% of their detractors.


Being masters on the KR server doesn't imply that you'll be a good caster, and I really don't want to explain why the "well let's see you do better" argument is flawed for the 100th time.

Every caster makes miscalls. And I hate it when people who definitely wouldn't have made the right call (as evidenced by their lack of skill in the game) use 20/20 hindsight to rag on casters for making miscalls. It's not "let's see you do better" it's "it's easy to say that now that it happened."

On July 14 2013 14:45 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Also, SNM can translate and is very knowledgeable about the scene. That puts him above most other (all) casters in that respect.


The most important part about being a caster is, y'know, being good at casting - clearly articulating yourself and the complexities of the game in an enjoyable way. Being able to translate has nothing to do with being a caster. Knowledge of the scene helps, but it should be a supplementary strength that merely supports great casting ability.[/QUOTE]
They clearly articulate themselves and they can articulate the complexities of the game in an enjoyable way, imo. And no, having a knowledge of the scene and being able to translate ARE qualities that are useful to a caster.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
July 14 2013 06:03 GMT
#743
lol

"He knew what to do. He got out the Mothership Core" - SNM
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
July 14 2013 06:03 GMT
#744
On July 14 2013 15:01 aRyuujin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 14:57 Alabasern wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:55 Stanlot wrote:
DUDE FANTASY WHY


Yeah like wtf, he's a BW legend, his macro can crush harder than that rush!


fantasy's macro is lolworthy


Good point I suppose he was "The Terrorist" after all right? So more of a micro guy?
Support your esport!
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
July 14 2013 06:03 GMT
#745
Why would Fantasy cheese, anyway? Why would Boxer tell him to do that, as I imagine he did?

Fantasy should beat Classic pretty handily in a standard game, no? I don't get the reasoning behind it.
KT best KT ~ 2014
SAFenix
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada439 Posts
July 14 2013 06:03 GMT
#746
I'm surprised people don't believe Rain win... His 5 game loss streak is ALL PvP, and it's not like he played bad, he just played stupid. He just needs to learn how to play the matchup and he'll be fine
mYi.Rain | SKT1.soO
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
July 14 2013 06:03 GMT
#747
If STX KO SKT the fault will be all Rain performance!!!! He already lost twice and can finish the series 0-3. Still I hope he wins this ace match.
JD is BONJWA!
sevia
Profile Joined May 2010
United States954 Posts
July 14 2013 06:04 GMT
#748
On July 14 2013 15:00 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 14:57 sevia wrote:
Inno vs. Fanta rematch?

Also, I really wish SNM & Whiplash would tone down the volume a bit :/ It was just incoherent shouting for most of that attack.

but incoherent shouting is what makes the korean stream so great


But that's because it's in Korean, and I can't understand it when they say things like "The nexus cannon is about to activate the nexus cannon on that nexus"
최지성 Bomber || 김동환 viOLet || 고병재 GuMiho
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
July 14 2013 06:04 GMT
#749
Just in time for the ace match ^_^
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 14 2013 06:05 GMT
#750
On July 14 2013 15:03 aZealot wrote:
Why would Fantasy cheese, anyway? Why would Boxer tell him to do that, as I imagine he did?

Fantasy should beat Classic pretty handily in a standard game, no? I don't get the reasoning behind it.


Why would Boxer to tell him to do that? It's BoxeR.

I sorta feel as if they wanted to finish up the series so they can take it to ace.

Except the reasoning there is that they could reliably win the ace enough for their 6th game to be a coinflip.

Obviously enough, now they've gotta play against Innovation. Perhaps they prepared some crazy rush for it.
kiss kiss fall in love
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
July 14 2013 06:06 GMT
#751
jesus, the nexus cannon has insane range.
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
July 14 2013 06:06 GMT
#752
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 14 2013 15:02 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 14:45 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:43 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:41 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:40 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:34 xsnac wrote:
man i CANT STAND ANYMORE THOSE CASTERS !! fuck i got tired of soo much miscall " best will defend here and best attacked wtf is 2 best players "

I literally have no idea what you're even trying to say, and therefore reject this criticism out of hand.

I like both casters.

I tried but SNM and Whiplash just don't have that much value-add as commentators. Almost always play-by-play

That's not a huge deal though, and they do analyze stuff.

Afaik they are both masters on KR server, so better than 90% of their detractors.


Being masters on the KR server doesn't imply that you'll be a good caster, and I really don't want to explain why the "well let's see you do better" argument is flawed for the 100th time.

Every caster makes miscalls. And I hate it when people who definitely wouldn't have made the right call (as evidenced by their lack of skill in the game) use 20/20 hindsight to rag on casters for making miscalls. It's not "let's see you do better" it's "it's easy to say that now that it happened."

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 14:45 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Also, SNM can translate and is very knowledgeable about the scene. That puts him above most other (all) casters in that respect.


The most important part about being a caster is, y'know, being good at casting - clearly articulating yourself and the complexities of the game in an enjoyable way. Being able to translate has nothing to do with being a caster. Knowledge of the scene helps, but it should be a supplementary strength that merely supports great casting ability.

They clearly articulate themselves and they can articulate the complexities of the game in an enjoyable way, imo. And no, having a knowledge of the scene and being able to translate ARE qualities that are useful to a caster. [/QUOTE]

I think what he means is all the knowledge available to you doesn't help if you cannot speak/think clearly or harmonize well with your co-caster.
Support your esport!
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
July 14 2013 06:06 GMT
#753
On July 14 2013 15:03 aZealot wrote:
Why would Fantasy cheese, anyway? Why would Boxer tell him to do that, as I imagine he did?

Fantasy should beat Classic pretty handily in a standard game, no? I don't get the reasoning behind it.

That cheese was perfectly designed. Fantasy seriously botched that
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
July 14 2013 06:06 GMT
#754
On July 14 2013 15:03 SAFenix wrote:
I'm surprised people don't believe Rain win... His 5 game loss streak is ALL PvP, and it's not like he played bad, he just played stupid. He just needs to learn how to play the matchup and he'll be fine

what? 2 months ago Rain still has the best PvP, winning every single laser tag/late game with style. He's simply slumping recently
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 14 2013 06:07 GMT
#755
On July 14 2013 15:03 GWdeathscythe wrote:
If STX KO SKT the fault will be all Rain performance!!!! He already lost twice and can finish the series 0-3. Still I hope he wins this ace match.


Considering how many times SKT have gone with Rain in these situations it shouldn't be a surprise and they have no one else but to blame themselves by putting so much on the guy's back to begin with. Rain's played in more sudden death situations than any other player this PL. The only other player who comes close is herO[join] and we all know how that worked out for CJ.
General Nuke Em
Profile Joined March 2008
United States680 Posts
July 14 2013 06:07 GMT
#756
On July 14 2013 15:03 KingofGods wrote:
lol

"He knew what to do. He got out the Mothership Core" - SNM

That's 100% true.
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
July 14 2013 06:07 GMT
#757
On July 14 2013 15:03 aZealot wrote:
Why would Fantasy cheese, anyway? Why would Boxer tell him to do that, as I imagine he did?

Fantasy should beat Classic pretty handily in a standard game, no? I don't get the reasoning behind it.


It's Boxer you know, he will tell every player to cheese if possible.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 14 2013 06:07 GMT
#758
Stayed at 19/19 for more then a minute lol
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 06:10:04
July 14 2013 06:07 GMT
#759
On July 14 2013 15:06 Alabasern wrote:
I think what he means is all the knowledge available to you doesn't help if you cannot speak/think clearly or harmonize well with your co-caster.

My point is that they do speak/think clearly and harmonize well...

edit: I don't know what you did with that spoiler lol, but I can't decipher it to fix it so... whatever.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
July 14 2013 06:08 GMT
#760
On July 14 2013 14:58 Alabasern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 14:45 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:43 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:41 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:40 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:34 xsnac wrote:
man i CANT STAND ANYMORE THOSE CASTERS !! fuck i got tired of soo much miscall " best will defend here and best attacked wtf is 2 best players "

I literally have no idea what you're even trying to say, and therefore reject this criticism out of hand.

I like both casters.

I tried but SNM and Whiplash just don't have that much value-add as commentators. Almost always play-by-play

That's not a huge deal though, and they do analyze stuff.

Afaik they are both masters on KR server, so better than 90% of their detractors.


Being masters on the KR server doesn't imply that you'll be a good caster, and I really don't want to explain why the "well let's see you do better" argument is flawed for the 100th time.

On July 14 2013 14:45 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Also, SNM can translate and is very knowledgeable about the scene. That puts him above most other (all) casters in that respect.


The most important part about being a caster is, y'know, being good at casting - clearly articulating yourself and the complexities of the game in an enjoyable way. Being able to translate has nothing to do with being a caster. Knowledge of the scene helps, but it should be a supplementary strength that merely supports great casting ability.


Korean stream has 3 casters also. 3 > 2


I think whiplash is fine, they just need to swtich snm for an analytical caster.
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