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[IEM] Shanghai KR & TW Qualifiers - Page 8

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CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 13:05:02
July 10 2013 13:04 GMT
#141
It's incredible in how bad of a shape hero is in despite having scouted the Dark Shrine.
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
July 10 2013 13:05 GMT
#142
On July 10 2013 22:01 jekku wrote:
Pretty thumbs down worthy move from KT if its true.

I think maybe they just aren't used to this type of thing, a random twitch caster doing qualifier games from another country. When usually they attend live events.

Would've been nice to catch the whole series though ,_,
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 10 2013 13:06 GMT
#143
On July 10 2013 21:59 Swisslink wrote:
Why's nobody streaming CoCa?

He's out 2-0d by Mind
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CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
July 10 2013 13:07 GMT
#144
Stork with the suicide attack, that was unexpected, wtf man?!
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 10 2013 13:09 GMT
#145
Pretty knife-edge PvP right here.
SoulCapsule
Profile Joined November 2012
France806 Posts
July 10 2013 13:09 GMT
#146
Hydra, what the heck are you doing.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 10 2013 13:10 GMT
#147
On July 10 2013 21:58 ChaosArcher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 21:39 NovemberstOrm wrote:
also apparently KT Rolster doesn't want nathanias to stream the rest of the series o_O so we only get 1 game.


What?
Noooo

Edit: Sounds really suspicous too, not the smartest move of them. Their Big gun is down one game and suddenly the stream gets shut down.
If the result is Flash 2-1 this is really strange.


Yeah would be really strange if Flash would win 2-1 vs Puzzle. Jesus are you dumb. Are you implying they cheat? Check out the MLG KeSPa qualifier where INnoVation lost to Sacsri 1-2 ... clearly they are cheating their best players into tournaments, jesus.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 10 2013 13:12 GMT
#148
Hellbats/Marauders 2:0 hydra.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 10 2013 13:13 GMT
#149
On July 10 2013 22:10 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 21:58 ChaosArcher wrote:
On July 10 2013 21:39 NovemberstOrm wrote:
also apparently KT Rolster doesn't want nathanias to stream the rest of the series o_O so we only get 1 game.


What?
Noooo

Edit: Sounds really suspicous too, not the smartest move of them. Their Big gun is down one game and suddenly the stream gets shut down.
If the result is Flash 2-1 this is really strange.


Yeah would be really strange if Flash would win 2-1 vs Puzzle. Jesus are you dumb. Are you implying they cheat? Check out the MLG KeSPa qualifier where INnoVation lost to Sacsri 1-2 ... clearly they are cheating their best players into tournaments, jesus.

Whatever the reason was to not allow him to stream it, it was a dumb move that probably wasn't in line with the tournament rules and they didn't explain it at all.
No, it wouldn't be strange if Flash beat Puzzle, but if they wanted to hide builds or do whatever they shouldn't have signed them up for the qualifier. It is streamed and you have to deal with it.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
July 10 2013 13:15 GMT
#150
On July 10 2013 22:13 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 22:10 NarutO wrote:
On July 10 2013 21:58 ChaosArcher wrote:
On July 10 2013 21:39 NovemberstOrm wrote:
also apparently KT Rolster doesn't want nathanias to stream the rest of the series o_O so we only get 1 game.


What?
Noooo

Edit: Sounds really suspicous too, not the smartest move of them. Their Big gun is down one game and suddenly the stream gets shut down.
If the result is Flash 2-1 this is really strange.


Yeah would be really strange if Flash would win 2-1 vs Puzzle. Jesus are you dumb. Are you implying they cheat? Check out the MLG KeSPa qualifier where INnoVation lost to Sacsri 1-2 ... clearly they are cheating their best players into tournaments, jesus.

Whatever the reason was to not allow him to stream it, it was a dumb move that probably wasn't in line with the tournament rules and they didn't explain it at all.
No, it wouldn't be strange if Flash beat Puzzle, but if they wanted to hide builds or do whatever they shouldn't have signed them up for the qualifier. It is streamed and you have to deal with it.

what? is it any rule that specifically say that KT players have to be streamed? 80% of the qualifier are not streamed so whats the deal here?
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
July 10 2013 13:18 GMT
#151
On July 10 2013 22:10 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 21:58 ChaosArcher wrote:
On July 10 2013 21:39 NovemberstOrm wrote:
also apparently KT Rolster doesn't want nathanias to stream the rest of the series o_O so we only get 1 game.


What?
Noooo

Edit: Sounds really suspicous too, not the smartest move of them. Their Big gun is down one game and suddenly the stream gets shut down.
If the result is Flash 2-1 this is really strange.


Yeah would be really strange if Flash would win 2-1 vs Puzzle. Jesus are you dumb. Are you implying they cheat? Check out the MLG KeSPa qualifier where INnoVation lost to Sacsri 1-2 ... clearly they are cheating their best players into tournaments, jesus.


No I really do not believe that.
I just say it's no smart move, because it makes them look suspicous.
Can't argue on that, it is just not a smart move at all, always makes your team / company / organisation look bad
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 10 2013 13:19 GMT
#152
Lol, does Baby think it's cross only?
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
July 10 2013 13:20 GMT
#153
poor TY
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 13:22:08
July 10 2013 13:21 GMT
#154
On July 10 2013 22:18 ChaosArcher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 22:10 NarutO wrote:
On July 10 2013 21:58 ChaosArcher wrote:
On July 10 2013 21:39 NovemberstOrm wrote:
also apparently KT Rolster doesn't want nathanias to stream the rest of the series o_O so we only get 1 game.


What?
Noooo

Edit: Sounds really suspicous too, not the smartest move of them. Their Big gun is down one game and suddenly the stream gets shut down.
If the result is Flash 2-1 this is really strange.


Yeah would be really strange if Flash would win 2-1 vs Puzzle. Jesus are you dumb. Are you implying they cheat? Check out the MLG KeSPa qualifier where INnoVation lost to Sacsri 1-2 ... clearly they are cheating their best players into tournaments, jesus.


No I really do not believe that.
I just say it's no smart move, because it makes them look suspicous.
Can't argue on that, it is just not a smart move at all, always makes your team / company / organisation look bad


As you can see, you clearly can argue the point. Its not just me that makes no big deal if any out of it. I can fully understand high profile players not wanting to be streamed especially if they feel it hinders their performance. It neither makes KT look bad nor the players in the match. I would bet there's plenty of matches that asked to not be streamed.

Additionally, would you rather not see him competing at all? Because then we'll have an IEM with foreign players and a few invites, that I personally would not want to watch. So I'd rather "miss out" on qualifiers and see him in a real tournament more than not competing at all. See WJS, STX, SKT1 ...
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 10 2013 13:21 GMT
#155
Hahaha, can't they tell the players all spawns are enabled? Seriously...
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51691 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 13:23:03
July 10 2013 13:22 GMT
#156
On July 10 2013 22:21 TheDwf wrote:
Hahaha, can't they tell the players all spawns are enabled? Seriously...


red city isn't even a map with cross spawns forced in any tournament
baby rolled the dice and derped really hard there
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Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
July 10 2013 13:24 GMT
#157
On July 10 2013 22:15 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 22:13 StarVe wrote:
On July 10 2013 22:10 NarutO wrote:
On July 10 2013 21:58 ChaosArcher wrote:
On July 10 2013 21:39 NovemberstOrm wrote:
also apparently KT Rolster doesn't want nathanias to stream the rest of the series o_O so we only get 1 game.


What?
Noooo

Edit: Sounds really suspicous too, not the smartest move of them. Their Big gun is down one game and suddenly the stream gets shut down.
If the result is Flash 2-1 this is really strange.


Yeah would be really strange if Flash would win 2-1 vs Puzzle. Jesus are you dumb. Are you implying they cheat? Check out the MLG KeSPa qualifier where INnoVation lost to Sacsri 1-2 ... clearly they are cheating their best players into tournaments, jesus.

Whatever the reason was to not allow him to stream it, it was a dumb move that probably wasn't in line with the tournament rules and they didn't explain it at all.
No, it wouldn't be strange if Flash beat Puzzle, but if they wanted to hide builds or do whatever they shouldn't have signed them up for the qualifier. It is streamed and you have to deal with it.

what? is it any rule that specifically say that KT players have to be streamed? 80% of the qualifier are not streamed so whats the deal here?

The deal is that they accepted having the first game casted and then refused to let it continue. I am certainly not going to jump to conclusions, but that is definitely suspicious. I doubt that they are actually match fixing, but StarVe's point was that it was incredibly stupid of them to do this because they brought the suspicion upon themselves. Furthermore, it is not up to KT to decide what games get streamed. If they're hiding strategies, that's a bs reason because they should either not use whatever their secret strategy is, or they should not have signed up in the first place as StarVe also point out. There is probably a rule about IEM being able to stream games at their own discretion (I am not certain, so I could be wrong) which would be the rule being broken if they refuse to let their games be cast. Even if there is not a rule, it is still a dumb thing to do for the reasons mentioned above.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 10 2013 13:24 GMT
#158
On July 10 2013 22:22 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 22:21 TheDwf wrote:
Hahaha, can't they tell the players all spawns are enabled? Seriously...


red city isn't even a map with cross spawns forced in any tournament
baby just derped really hard there

I know, but with the precedent of Star Station being 4 spawns in ladder then 2, 3 in some tournaments and 2 in others, it's just better to precise.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 10 2013 13:26 GMT
#159
zest 0-2 Trap
Stats 0-2 eMotion
who is emotion? some rookie?
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 13:28:40
July 10 2013 13:27 GMT
#160
On July 10 2013 22:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:
zest 0-2 Trap
Stats 0-2 eMotion
who is emotion? some rookie?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_2_Korea_OSL/Qualifier

I presume so. Check Bracket F.

EDIT: Also, here. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_MLG_Spring_Championship/KeSPA_Qualifiers
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
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