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Aiobhill
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany283 Posts
June 25 2013 13:06 GMT
#1921
Seriously BO1? Apart from the RorO First game this was painful to watch.
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Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
June 25 2013 13:06 GMT
#1922
Leenock for eSF dominance!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 25 2013 13:07 GMT
#1923
On June 25 2013 22:05 Wintex wrote:
How was First? good shit?


An unexpectedly strong PvZ. He kind of fell apart at times during the game with RorO but he straight up smashed Leenock.
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NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 13:07:33
June 25 2013 13:07 GMT
#1924
I wonder how many Bo1 champions will go through to Ro16 next GSL.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 25 2013 13:07 GMT
#1925
On June 25 2013 22:05 Wintex wrote:
How was First? good shit?


Executed a nasty sentry drop on Leenock.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 25 2013 13:07 GMT
#1926
On June 25 2013 22:05 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 22:05 packrat386 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:04 Wintex wrote:
Shellbot, deactivate.


someday, I'll reach his level of LR talent.


Don't take this the wrong way but.... you probably won't tbh.

idk it's just a matter of getting your typing speed up and from there it's really not too bad.
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Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
June 25 2013 13:07 GMT
#1927
On June 25 2013 22:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 22:05 Wintex wrote:
How was First? good shit?


An unexpectedly strong PvZ. He kind of fell apart at times during the game with RorO but he straight up smashed Leenock.

Well he only had to prepare one match-up. That one.
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
June 25 2013 13:07 GMT
#1928
On June 25 2013 22:04 robson1 wrote:
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On June 25 2013 22:03 SeXyBaCk wrote:
This new format clearly is hurting the good zerg players. ZvZ still coinflippy. Other races going to be way more represented in RO8. Good mix up but Roro and Life out... kinda a shame.


How. What? I can't even. Why are zerg players more hurt by Bo1 than other races. It makes literally no sense.


Think harder.
If a lesser Zerg player has more chance to advance in ZvZ (than for instance a Terran does in TvT...), then in the later rounds undeserving Zergs might face deserving Protoss/Terran and get crushed.
Our envy always last longer than the happiness of those we envy
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9174 Posts
June 25 2013 13:07 GMT
#1929
On June 25 2013 22:05 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 22:04 robson1 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:03 SeXyBaCk wrote:
This new format clearly is hurting the good zerg players. ZvZ still coinflippy. Other races going to be way more represented in RO8. Good mix up but Roro and Life out... kinda a shame.


How. What? I can't even. Why are zerg players more hurt by Bo1 than other races. It makes literally no sense.

Protoss relies a lot more on gimmicky build. Easier to prepare one than 7. Protoss has a lot more success in pro-league (bo1s) than they have in other tournaments with bo3s -> bo7s

By that logic a Bo1 format was a good move to give us more racial balance. Anything that reduces the number of zergs is a good move.
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packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 25 2013 13:07 GMT
#1930
On June 25 2013 22:05 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 22:04 robson1 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:03 SeXyBaCk wrote:
This new format clearly is hurting the good zerg players. ZvZ still coinflippy. Other races going to be way more represented in RO8. Good mix up but Roro and Life out... kinda a shame.


How. What? I can't even. Why are zerg players more hurt by Bo1 than other races. It makes literally no sense.

Protoss relies a lot more on gimmicky build. Easier to prepare one than 7. Protoss has a lot more success in pro-league (bo1s) than they have in other tournaments with bo3s -> bo7s


I feel like that might also be because kespa have deep protoss benches as well. Like, it might just so happen that there are a lot of them.
dreaming of a sunny day
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
June 25 2013 13:07 GMT
#1931
On June 25 2013 22:07 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 22:05 robson1 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:05 packrat386 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:04 Wintex wrote:
Shellbot, deactivate.


someday, I'll reach his level of LR talent.


Don't take this the wrong way but.... you probably won't tbh.

idk it's just a matter of getting your typing speed up and from there it's really not too bad.

What's your WPM on 10fastfingers.com?
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
June 25 2013 13:08 GMT
#1932
On June 25 2013 22:05 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 22:04 robson1 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:03 SeXyBaCk wrote:
This new format clearly is hurting the good zerg players. ZvZ still coinflippy. Other races going to be way more represented in RO8. Good mix up but Roro and Life out... kinda a shame.


How. What? I can't even. Why are zerg players more hurt by Bo1 than other races. It makes literally no sense.

Protoss relies a lot more on gimmicky build. Easier to prepare one than 7. Protoss has a lot more success in pro-league (bo1s) than they have in other tournaments with bo3s -> bo7s


You know that we'll have 5 zergs and 2 toss in the Ro16 so far?
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 25 2013 13:08 GMT
#1933
On June 25 2013 22:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 22:05 Wintex wrote:
How was First? good shit?


An unexpectedly strong PvZ. He kind of fell apart at times during the game with RorO but he straight up smashed Leenock.

To be fair that sort of strat either fails horribly or smashes.
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 25 2013 13:08 GMT
#1934
On June 25 2013 22:07 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 22:05 robson1 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:05 packrat386 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:04 Wintex wrote:
Shellbot, deactivate.


someday, I'll reach his level of LR talent.


Don't take this the wrong way but.... you probably won't tbh.

idk it's just a matter of getting your typing speed up and from there it's really not too bad.

yeah I'm getting better at it. Also kind of knowing what stuff to focus on.
dreaming of a sunny day
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
June 25 2013 13:08 GMT
#1935
roro screwed up the defence a bit there, repositioning his spine crawlers at the wrong moment. Nice build from hyvaa though
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
June 25 2013 13:08 GMT
#1936
On June 25 2013 22:07 SiroKO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 22:04 robson1 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:03 SeXyBaCk wrote:
This new format clearly is hurting the good zerg players. ZvZ still coinflippy. Other races going to be way more represented in RO8. Good mix up but Roro and Life out... kinda a shame.


How. What? I can't even. Why are zerg players more hurt by Bo1 than other races. It makes literally no sense.


Think harder.
If a lesser Zerg player has more chance to advance in ZvZ (than for instance a Terran does in TvT...), then in the later rounds undeserving Zergs might face deserving Protoss/Terran and get crushed.


Think harder yourself. PvP is just as volatile.

With terran it might be slightly better.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
June 25 2013 13:09 GMT
#1937
On June 25 2013 22:07 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 22:05 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:04 robson1 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:03 SeXyBaCk wrote:
This new format clearly is hurting the good zerg players. ZvZ still coinflippy. Other races going to be way more represented in RO8. Good mix up but Roro and Life out... kinda a shame.


How. What? I can't even. Why are zerg players more hurt by Bo1 than other races. It makes literally no sense.

Protoss relies a lot more on gimmicky build. Easier to prepare one than 7. Protoss has a lot more success in pro-league (bo1s) than they have in other tournaments with bo3s -> bo7s

By that logic a Bo1 format was a good move to give us more racial balance. Anything that reduces the number of zergs is a good move.

Yeah probably. I am not defending/arguing against bo1. I just explained why zerg usually have more problem in bo1s than toss
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
June 25 2013 13:09 GMT
#1938
On June 25 2013 22:08 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 22:05 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:04 robson1 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:03 SeXyBaCk wrote:
This new format clearly is hurting the good zerg players. ZvZ still coinflippy. Other races going to be way more represented in RO8. Good mix up but Roro and Life out... kinda a shame.


How. What? I can't even. Why are zerg players more hurt by Bo1 than other races. It makes literally no sense.

Protoss relies a lot more on gimmicky build. Easier to prepare one than 7. Protoss has a lot more success in pro-league (bo1s) than they have in other tournaments with bo3s -> bo7s


You know that we'll have 5 zergs and 2 toss in the Ro16 so far?


Look at the groups still to be played, it should even up.
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
June 25 2013 13:09 GMT
#1939
On June 25 2013 22:01 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 21:59 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On June 25 2013 21:56 Rabiator wrote:
On June 25 2013 21:53 FetTerBender wrote:
On June 25 2013 21:52 Extenz wrote:
And as always protoss has to win with some tricky build : (


Protoss can get gimmicky at times. But it´s part of the game, isnt it?

The problem is this map. The main base is HUGE and Zerg cant build stuff everywhere, so there will be blind spots to warp in - especially early in the game when you dont have a crapton of Overlords to cover everything and with Phoenix running around killing them.

On the flipside Zerg are too greedy / lazy to put a creep tumor in their own main base and this allows them to be abused by such a strategy.

Even if you have a creep tumor, it takes too long if your units are not in position, dropping a sentry -> forcefield takes like 1sec. Have to scout it with an overlord or just have units in main in preparation.

What prevents you from having units in your main for the minute during which you are vulnerable to this strategy?

What happens if the drop "comes late" and you have moved the defending units out? With the faster Warp Prism it *might be* viable to build 2-3 Warp Prisms and start with 4 Sentries and 4 Zealots. Warping in stuff takes time after all and this would add an element of surprise to it. With several Warp Prisms you could have one of them to warp in stuff and the other(s) could be used to micro and save your units.

The only possibility seems to be a counter-attack and if you plan to use this strategy a tight wall and several cannons seems an easy enough defense.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 13:14:12
June 25 2013 13:09 GMT
#1940
On June 25 2013 22:07 Abominous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 22:07 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:05 robson1 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:05 packrat386 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:04 Wintex wrote:
Shellbot, deactivate.


someday, I'll reach his level of LR talent.


Don't take this the wrong way but.... you probably won't tbh.

idk it's just a matter of getting your typing speed up and from there it's really not too bad.

What's your WPM on 10fastfingers.com?

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