Sad for Leenock losing his rematch and Jangbi

Like many said I don't think Life's in good form anymore, which I don't really mind, he has enough time and years ahead of him to improve again.
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TriZ
Belgium379 Posts
June 25 2013 20:32 GMT
#2301
Sad for Leenock losing his rematch and Jangbi ![]() Like many said I don't think Life's in good form anymore, which I don't really mind, he has enough time and years ahead of him to improve again. | ||
SupaDupaFlyPro
Italy47 Posts
June 25 2013 20:36 GMT
#2302
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
June 25 2013 20:37 GMT
#2303
On June 26 2013 04:34 p14c wrote: It's not Bo1 it's Bo3 with different adversaries so people just stop whining. All people who lost just played bad. Life played bad, Jangbi played bad last game (he could have easily sniped the 3rd base), Hyvaa played very good (he won playing a very solid macro game, he was never behind). This tournament format was like this since the beginning of Starcraft only GSL n00bs don't understand. PS: Yes, Life is in a slump. When you loose to a foreigner in a Bo5 you know you're in decline. 1.This tournament format was like this for another game. Snooker World championship has bo35 finals since 1980 (So even longer than the beginning of Starcraft); should we use this as well? MLG has extended series more or less since the beginning of SC2 and still pretty much everyone agrees, that it is bad. 2. It was a bo3. Get your facts straight. And everyone can lose to a foreigner in a bo3. I think besides Innovation everyone, who travels to international tournaments regularely, has already. 3. Even if Life would be in a slump (which, by the way is not the same as declining, I guess you could call decline the derivation of slump), that would not explain, how other favorites like sOs, Leenock or RorO. That is the thing with bo3, it just allows you to mess up once and still advance, if you are the better player. 4. "GSL n00bs"? With a double 0? Really? On June 26 2013 05:19 SupaDupaFlyPro wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2013 00:45 Beamo wrote: On June 25 2013 23:50 Nebuchad wrote: On June 25 2013 23:45 Greenei wrote: On June 25 2013 23:33 Schelim wrote: On June 25 2013 23:23 Greenei wrote: On June 25 2013 23:04 Nebuchad wrote: On June 25 2013 22:56 Greenei wrote: On June 25 2013 22:52 packrat386 wrote: On June 25 2013 22:50 Gorribal wrote: Bo1 knocking out RorO, thanks OGN yeah, how could an ex-broodwar player POSSIBLY be prepared for a Bo1 format. Such bullshit + Show Spoiler + sarcasm is hard on the internet it's not about 'being prepared for a bo1' it's about very simple math. the stronger player has a better chance to win in a longer series. if you think that life, jangbi, leenock and roro would have been kicked out of the group in bo3 series you are wrong and stupid. gg no re ogn. I keep forgetting "stronger player" means "the player I decided should win" :/ if you really think that kangho would win a bo100 against life and jangbi or hyvaa against leenock and roro or even fantasy against life though that one is not that clear - then you have no idea what you are talking about. bo1 format killed these players. i'm not saying it's impossible to have it happen it's just way less likely. when was the last time you watched a bo100? that's not how starcraft tournaments work. do you tell football fans their team wouldn't have won if the match had gone on for 50 hours? for fucks sake..... why can't you just accept that bo1formats are bs because it's more likely that bad players advance. it's a very simple argument. but maybe we should jsut listen to you and make bo1 format finals woohee! What's the difference between a good player that loses and a bad player that wins? Tears ! ![]() Go bo1 finals! SoO/Kangho WCS Korea champion...what a joke. You are so right Greenei (and it doesn't matter if OSL has always been like this, right now we are only getting to a ez pz boring win for Soulkey, Innovation or Flash -> no competition) In KangHo´s defense, he was in ro8 in the last season as well, it´s not a total surprise to see him advance. | ||
Taipoka
Brazil1224 Posts
June 25 2013 20:39 GMT
#2304
On June 26 2013 05:37 Xoronius wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2013 04:34 p14c wrote: It's not Bo1 it's Bo3 with different adversaries so people just stop whining. All people who lost just played bad. Life played bad, Jangbi played bad last game (he could have easily sniped the 3rd base), Hyvaa played very good (he won playing a very solid macro game, he was never behind). This tournament format was like this since the beginning of Starcraft only GSL n00bs don't understand. PS: Yes, Life is in a slump. When you loose to a foreigner in a Bo5 you know you're in decline. 1.This tournament format was like this for another game. Snooker World championship has bo35 finals since 1980 (So even longer than the beginning of Starcraft); should we use this as well? MLG has extended series more or less since the beginning of SC2 and still pretty much everyone agrees, that it is bad. 2. It was a bo3. Get your facts straight. And everyone can lose to a foreigner in a bo3. I think besides Innovation everyone, who travels to international tournaments regularely, has already. 3. Even if Life would be in a slump (which, by the way is not the same as declining, I guess you could call decline the derivation of slump), that would not explain, how other favorites like sOs, Leenock or RorO. That is the thing with bo3, it just allows you to mess up once and still advance, if you are the better player. 4. "GSL n00bs"? With a double 0? Really? BO9 is the real deal. | ||
hitthat
Poland2243 Posts
June 25 2013 20:40 GMT
#2305
On June 26 2013 05:37 Xoronius wrote: Even if Life would be in a slump (which, by the way is not the same as declining, I guess you could call decline the derivation of slump), that would not explain, how other favorites like sOs, Leenock or RorO. That is the thing with bo3, it just allows you to mess up once and still advance, if you are the better player. And somehow OSL had really few random champions. Strange, isnt it? | ||
1raxexpand
United States165 Posts
June 25 2013 20:44 GMT
#2306
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Taipoka
Brazil1224 Posts
June 25 2013 20:44 GMT
#2307
On June 26 2013 05:40 hitthat wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2013 05:37 Xoronius wrote: Even if Life would be in a slump (which, by the way is not the same as declining, I guess you could call decline the derivation of slump), that would not explain, how other favorites like sOs, Leenock or RorO. That is the thing with bo3, it just allows you to mess up once and still advance, if you are the better player. And somehow OSL had really few random champions. Strange, isnt it? Thats something strange. How could it be? | ||
Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
June 25 2013 20:45 GMT
#2308
On June 26 2013 05:40 hitthat wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2013 05:37 Xoronius wrote: Even if Life would be in a slump (which, by the way is not the same as declining, I guess you could call decline the derivation of slump), that would not explain, how other favorites like sOs, Leenock or RorO. That is the thing with bo3, it just allows you to mess up once and still advance, if you are the better player. And somehow OSL had really few random champions. Strange, isnt it? Yes, just cut out the part, where I say, that it may have worked in another game, that really did´nt have anything to do with your qeustion, right? | ||
Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
June 25 2013 20:47 GMT
#2309
Also I think that Bo1 doesn't actually suit this format too much and would be much better with last OSL's format (round robin groups with 1 game per player per day), it could potentially produce even better games. | ||
hitthat
Poland2243 Posts
June 25 2013 20:49 GMT
#2310
On June 26 2013 05:45 Xoronius wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2013 05:40 hitthat wrote: On June 26 2013 05:37 Xoronius wrote: Even if Life would be in a slump (which, by the way is not the same as declining, I guess you could call decline the derivation of slump), that would not explain, how other favorites like sOs, Leenock or RorO. That is the thing with bo3, it just allows you to mess up once and still advance, if you are the better player. And somehow OSL had really few random champions. Strange, isnt it? Yes, just cut out the part, where I say, that it may have worked in another game, that really did´nt have anything to do with your qeustion, right? Maybe just wait and see if there will be some random scrub with a champion throphy before you start saying it doesnt fit THIS game, ok? Good players will menege to get to highter ground sooner or later...unless they are Bisu XD | ||
Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
June 25 2013 20:54 GMT
#2311
On June 26 2013 05:49 hitthat wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2013 05:45 Xoronius wrote: On June 26 2013 05:40 hitthat wrote: On June 26 2013 05:37 Xoronius wrote: Even if Life would be in a slump (which, by the way is not the same as declining, I guess you could call decline the derivation of slump), that would not explain, how other favorites like sOs, Leenock or RorO. That is the thing with bo3, it just allows you to mess up once and still advance, if you are the better player. And somehow OSL had really few random champions. Strange, isnt it? Yes, just cut out the part, where I say, that it may have worked in another game, that really did´nt have anything to do with your qeustion, right? Maybe just wait and see if there will be some random scrub with a champion throphy before you start saying it doesnt fit THIS game, ok? Good players will menege to get to highter ground sooner or later...unless they are Bisu XD Is´nt it already to late, if we hand the GSL/OSL trophy to a "random scrub? Of course a good player will win it at the end, but it will not neccesary be the best player. If ESL would have had bo1 in the groupstages of season 1, MVP would have been eliminated in the ro32. | ||
GWdeathscythe
Brazil1091 Posts
June 25 2013 20:58 GMT
#2312
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
June 25 2013 20:59 GMT
#2313
On June 26 2013 04:34 p14c wrote: It's not Bo1 it's Bo3 with different adversaries so people just stop whining. All people who lost just played bad. Life played bad, Jangbi played bad last game (he could have easily sniped the 3rd base), Hyvaa played very good (he won playing a very solid macro game, he was never behind). This tournament format was like this since the beginning of Starcraft only GSL n00bs don't understand. PS: Yes, Life is in a slump. When you loose to a foreigner in a Bo5 you know you're in decline. What in the nine hells is a GSL n00b? | ||
boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
June 25 2013 21:02 GMT
#2314
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GWdeathscythe
Brazil1091 Posts
June 25 2013 21:03 GMT
#2315
On June 26 2013 05:59 Assirra wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2013 04:34 p14c wrote: It's not Bo1 it's Bo3 with different adversaries so people just stop whining. All people who lost just played bad. Life played bad, Jangbi played bad last game (he could have easily sniped the 3rd base), Hyvaa played very good (he won playing a very solid macro game, he was never behind). This tournament format was like this since the beginning of Starcraft only GSL n00bs don't understand. PS: Yes, Life is in a slump. When you loose to a foreigner in a Bo5 you know you're in decline. What in the nine hells is a GSL n00b? I believe that "gsl n00bs" are those who don't know about starleague and its history and the ones that started follow the scene after BW era. lol | ||
AlgeriaT
Sweden2195 Posts
June 25 2013 21:18 GMT
#2316
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Mortal
2943 Posts
June 25 2013 21:30 GMT
#2317
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SupaDupaFlyPro
Italy47 Posts
June 25 2013 21:34 GMT
#2318
On June 26 2013 05:37 Xoronius wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2013 04:34 p14c wrote: It's not Bo1 it's Bo3 with different adversaries so people just stop whining. All people who lost just played bad. Life played bad, Jangbi played bad last game (he could have easily sniped the 3rd base), Hyvaa played very good (he won playing a very solid macro game, he was never behind). This tournament format was like this since the beginning of Starcraft only GSL n00bs don't understand. PS: Yes, Life is in a slump. When you loose to a foreigner in a Bo5 you know you're in decline. 1.This tournament format was like this for another game. Snooker World championship has bo35 finals since 1980 (So even longer than the beginning of Starcraft); should we use this as well? MLG has extended series more or less since the beginning of SC2 and still pretty much everyone agrees, that it is bad. 2. It was a bo3. Get your facts straight. And everyone can lose to a foreigner in a bo3. I think besides Innovation everyone, who travels to international tournaments regularely, has already. 3. Even if Life would be in a slump (which, by the way is not the same as declining, I guess you could call decline the derivation of slump), that would not explain, how other favorites like sOs, Leenock or RorO. That is the thing with bo3, it just allows you to mess up once and still advance, if you are the better player. 4. "GSL n00bs"? With a double 0? Really? Show nested quote + On June 26 2013 05:19 SupaDupaFlyPro wrote: On June 26 2013 00:45 Beamo wrote: On June 25 2013 23:50 Nebuchad wrote: On June 25 2013 23:45 Greenei wrote: On June 25 2013 23:33 Schelim wrote: On June 25 2013 23:23 Greenei wrote: On June 25 2013 23:04 Nebuchad wrote: On June 25 2013 22:56 Greenei wrote: On June 25 2013 22:52 packrat386 wrote: [quote] yeah, how could an ex-broodwar player POSSIBLY be prepared for a Bo1 format. Such bullshit + Show Spoiler + sarcasm is hard on the internet it's not about 'being prepared for a bo1' it's about very simple math. the stronger player has a better chance to win in a longer series. if you think that life, jangbi, leenock and roro would have been kicked out of the group in bo3 series you are wrong and stupid. gg no re ogn. I keep forgetting "stronger player" means "the player I decided should win" :/ if you really think that kangho would win a bo100 against life and jangbi or hyvaa against leenock and roro or even fantasy against life though that one is not that clear - then you have no idea what you are talking about. bo1 format killed these players. i'm not saying it's impossible to have it happen it's just way less likely. when was the last time you watched a bo100? that's not how starcraft tournaments work. do you tell football fans their team wouldn't have won if the match had gone on for 50 hours? for fucks sake..... why can't you just accept that bo1formats are bs because it's more likely that bad players advance. it's a very simple argument. but maybe we should jsut listen to you and make bo1 format finals woohee! What's the difference between a good player that loses and a bad player that wins? Tears ! ![]() Go bo1 finals! SoO/Kangho WCS Korea champion...what a joke. You are so right Greenei (and it doesn't matter if OSL has always been like this, right now we are only getting to a ez pz boring win for Soulkey, Innovation or Flash -> no competition) In KangHo´s defense, he was in ro8 in the last season as well, it´s not a total surprise to see him advance. By no means I'm saying that Kangho or soO are bad, but they are definitely not championship contenders. I simply don't wanna see random champions like in WoL, I want to best players to win. bo1 is just way too random, I wouldn't be happy if Kangho won, even if he played well till the end, simply cause nobody would remember his victory (same for Sniper or other players before him) despite being in code S for a very long time and being a good player overall. Yes good, but not amazing | ||
heartlxp
United States1258 Posts
June 25 2013 21:36 GMT
#2319
On June 26 2013 06:30 Mortal wrote: Damn, Losira > Life? That's a pretty crazy turn. woah! what is that mega santa star that you have? also, damn life slumpin ![]() | ||
Bagration
United States18282 Posts
June 25 2013 21:42 GMT
#2320
On June 26 2013 05:58 GWdeathscythe wrote: OMG! Hyvaa, First, Losira. Never expected them to go through. About Life... idk... if you see the results one can say that he is in a slump, but the guy is always in the most stacked groups. Sjow and TLO, though. | ||
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