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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37032 Posts
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packrat386
United States5077 Posts
On June 26 2013 06:44 Seeker wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418779 Interviews are up! Thank You! | ||
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Crackpot
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 26 2013 03:29 Zealously wrote: How do we define "On decline" these days? I won't argue against Life being in a tough spot now, but "for months" seems ridiculous. Every tournament he's been in the last few months? Yeah, there's a lot of issues there buddy & that's another thing I called as well. His cockiness (especially with his lings) was going to backfire and low and behold. It's been months and he keeps dropping out of the most prestigious tournament just like Leenock. They go hand and hand. Both are innovators, but both are floundering. On June 26 2013 03:34 arkedos wrote: I think winning MLGs back to back is a sign of decline. I guess someone has a problem with reading comprehension. Notice how I said last few months. Last time I checked March 2013 was over several months ago. huehuehue | ||
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packrat386
United States5077 Posts
On June 26 2013 07:21 StarStruck wrote: Every tournament he's been in the last few months? Yeah, there's a lot of issues there buddy & that's another thing I called as well. His cockiness (especially with his lings) was going to backfire and low and behold. It's been months and he keeps dropping out of the most prestigious tournament just like Leenock. They go hand and hand. Both are innovators, but both are floundering. He hasn't looked as unstoppable as he did when he won his GSL, but hes got a 76% winrate in June and the 2nd highest rating on aligulac. I agree he may not be in championship winning form, but I definitely don't think he's slumping. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 26 2013 07:24 packrat386 wrote: He hasn't looked as unstoppable as he did when he won his GSL, but hes got a 76% winrate in June and the 2nd highest rating on aligulac. I agree he may not be in championship winning form, but I definitely don't think he's slumping. I didn't say slumping. I said decline. Decline and slumping are two different ideas and the sample size we have of his games are relatively small, so I wouldn't read too much in them especially when you toss in international events because that's a good way to pad your stats. As for the whole months thing, a couple months is a pretty long time in SC2 terms. There's just a whole lot more going on in this scene whereas BW was pretty succinct. Anyway, I'm glad Fantasy proved me right and pulled it off. As for the rest, props to LosirA getting by a toss and for First managing to break out too. It's going to be an interesting month. Against other top notch Koreans both Life and Leenock (my so-called two innovators for zerg by the end of Wings) haven't been up to snuff & with how the game is and will continue to change. It's only going to get harder to remain at the top spot. | ||
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2591 Posts
On June 26 2013 07:18 Crackpot wrote: Am I the only one who thinks jangbi played f*ckn amazing ?... even in the last match ? I mean sure his major mistake was to stay on gateway units only. But for stalkers vs hydras he did some pretty good pressure with that blink micro and ff!! ... next time jangbi will do it better I hope. meanwhile he will rule proleague !! His play in the game vs Fantasy was... uninspired, at best. Didn't catch the last game though so I dunno about that one. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 26 2013 07:21 StarStruck wrote: Every tournament he's been in the last few months? Yeah, there's a lot of issues there buddy & that's another thing I called as well. His cockiness (especially with his lings) was going to backfire and low and behold. It's been months and he keeps dropping out of the most prestigious tournament just like Leenock. They go hand and hand. Both are innovators, but both are floundering. I guess someone has a problem with reading comprehension. Notice how I said last few months. Last time I checked March 2013 was over several months ago. huehuehue He won the first HotS MLG only 3 months ago, and since then the following has happened: Elimination from GSL in the Ro16 by Innovation and Parting (this happened after he beat Parting 2-0 in their first match, mind) This very important qualifier, which includes wins over Hurricane, Gumiho, Bboong and Flash. A 3-kill in GSTL over Maru, Byun and Creator Two bad days in GSTL (losses to San and Ryung) Advanced from his group in RSL with wins over qxc and Hero A bad weekend at Dreamhack (we all know the story) Elimination from yesterday's OSL 0-2 I know people are quick to call "SLUMP!" and I agree that Life hasn't played very well the last few weeks, but it's hardly "been coming" for several months. "Several", by the way, can certainly mean 3. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 26 2013 07:37 Zealously wrote: He won the first HotS MLG only 3 months ago, and since then the following has happened: Elimination from GSL in the Ro16 by Innovation and Parting (this happened after he beat Parting 2-0 in their first match, mind) This very important qualifier, which includes wins over Hurricane, Gumiho, Bboong and Flash. A 3-kill in GSTL over Maru, Byun and Creator Two bad days in GSTL (losses to San and Ryung) Advanced from his group in RSL with wins over qxc and Hero A bad weekend at Dreamhack (we all know the story) Elimination from yesterday's OSL 0-2 I know people are quick to call "SLUMP!" and I agree that Life hasn't played very well the last few weeks, but it's hardly "been coming" for several months. "Several", by the way, can certainly mean 3. That's the problem when I said for months. I mean the last few months. Few means 2. Several means 3. June, May, April March. That MLG run was four months ago. Notice how I also said in SC2 considering there's so much more going on it means everything is more condensed compared to BW. So a couple of months is a fairy long time and yes I remember the 3-kill very well considering my GSTL team consists of only IM & Startale players (boy do I suck at Fantasy leagues now). The root of the problem Life faces is the fact he is the cockiest Zerg player I've ever seen (that's a good thing and a bad thing). That's why he's losing a lot of ZvZ's. You have to wheel the kid in if he's going to find that same success. | ||
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Brutaxilos
United States2629 Posts
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
And Life has been on and off in HotS. He has lost important games in the GSTL, he is on a quite bad run the last few weeks and it's easy to rationalize his MLG victory away as the product of a lack of understanding of HotS by his opponents. He did get to the finals of the Asian Indoors qualifier, so presumably he has the capability to do well in HotS, but there certainly seems something off about his play just now. Perhaps it's lack of practice time for a new game thanks to school. Or maybe it's more serious and the results show that some of his success can be attributed to his idiosyncratic play style that has lost some of its power in HotS, with nothing yet to show for it in return. | ||
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Drmooose
United States390 Posts
Quite upset to see both Life and Leenock are out. DRG was bad enough for me... | ||
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theMagus
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Mortal
2943 Posts
On June 26 2013 06:36 heartlxp wrote: woah! what is that mega santa star that you have? also, damn life slumpin just gifted a bunch of tl+ :D | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On June 25 2013 21:34 -Celestial- wrote: Well yeah, thats why I specified if they commit. Like if they're trying to base race you.  Its still a pretty good way to kill mutas. Especially if you have blinks to chase them. But it IS damn harder to kill them now with the regen increase. Sentries have always been viewed as generally pretty useful against mutas because of Guardian Shield being absurdly good against their attack. Wouldn't like to try pure sentry vs muta though. A mix of sentries and stalkers would do better. Well yeah, of course guardian shield is good against mutas, but he seemed to be saying that you just mass sentries to beat mutas. | ||
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plasemeious
United States244 Posts
Sjow yes but ZvZ I don't think is a good mu to judge anything off of. Not to mention TLO only lost to Tajea 3-2. I didn't see the Sjow game or his ZvZ today but his game against fantasy he didn't really play poorly | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On June 26 2013 05:47 Ammanas wrote: btw, when I scanned through the recommended games in this thread and also in last week ones, there are far more recommended games (on average) then any GSL threads I remember. Like in this thread only, 7 out of 10 games are recommended, and 5 out of those are highly recommended. That's 70%. I don't remember seeing any GSL thread (besides maybe the last group of death one) with 70% recommended games. So the theory about Bo1 producins slightly more tense/better games may be the case here... Also I think that Bo1 doesn't actually suit this format too much and would be much better with last OSL's format (round robin groups with 1 game per player per day), it could potentially produce even better games. nah there have definitely been GSL groups with votes like that, it's just at the end of WoL games were a bit stale and since then we've only had one GSL (the last one) which was pretty good | ||
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EFermi
United States165 Posts
Kinda disappointing to see great players like JangBi, sOs, or Flying miss out for some random nobodies to make it through. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On June 26 2013 02:04 Kinky wrote: Woooooow, my liquibets were completely the opposite of the results. Sad to see the fan favorites get knocked out, but it's good that the players that haven't hit it big in HotS are stepping it up. I was 1/4, First was my only correct prediction. Bad day for LB after getting a bunch of SPL predictions in a row right. On June 26 2013 10:12 EFermi wrote: Wow.... Every single Terran so far has made it into the ro16. Kinda disappointing to see great players like JangBi, sOs, or Flying miss out for some random nobodies to make it through. Looking through the brackets, the closest thing to a random nobody to make it through is Bbyong. Don't know what you're on about. | ||
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
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