Game 1 In base proxy 2gates get spotted just as they are about to finish. TheBest zealot control leads to 2 drones killed for 8 zealots. Mini dies eventually. Game 2 herO looking like he wanted to try Flying's build, but it gets scouted and it goes into a macro game. herO lets Innovation walk up his ramp (hilarious), which unpowers gateways and does a little damage. They semi base race soon after as Innovation goes for a doom drop during herO's move out, but an excellent sim city gives Innovation the advantage. herO is mined out and has no third, while Innovation has a mining. Another sort of base race and herO dies. Game 3 Proxy blink all-in. Bunny scouts it only seeing stalker count and some pylons, but some nice moves and blinks by Trap take down the bunkers and kill off Bunny. Game 4 It was really long and really slow, but with a fair amount of action. No way I'm describing this game. Game 5 Apparently, Voidrays > Tempests. Also Dear is too cheap to build manner nexi, so he builds manner gateways. Game 6 Ace
(Vote): Mini vs Hydra (Vote): Innovation vs herO (Vote): Trap vs Bunny (Vote): Classic vs EffOrt (Vote): Dear vs Trust (Vote): hyvaa vs Bong
Playoff Picture
STX SouL can clinch their playoff spot with a win today. They will have 22 wins, which Samsung Khan can only tie, but a superior differential regardless of how the games go. However they are still jostling for position with KT and SKT. A win today will put them in 3rd, though SKT and KT will have a game in hand. STX have the least differential, so every point counts if they want to rise from 4th.
CJ Entus are out of the playoffs. They can still finish anywhere from 6th to 8th.
If STX or SKT win one of their final three or Samsung lose one of their final two, then those two teams are in. Only way for Samsung to make the playoffs is if they go 2-0 and either SKT or STX choke with three straight losses.
STX should win. CJ have been doing pretty badly this round, and this match doesn't matter to them anyway.
On June 24 2013 11:01 Fionn wrote: Playoff picture is pretty easy now.
If STX or SKT win one of their final three or Samsung lose one of their final two, then those two teams are in. Only way for Samsung to make the playoffs is if they go 2-0 and either SKT or STX choke with three straight losses.
I know, I just write it down so we don't get so many questions asking about it.
So what does everyone think of new fighting spirit? It's probably my favorite all time BW map (although admittedly, it is played quite a bit). How is the SC2 version holding up? Would love to play it on ladder.
On June 24 2013 13:16 Hellbat wrote: So what does everyone think of new fighting spirit? It's probably my favorite all time BW map (although admittedly, it is played quite a bit). How is the SC2 version holding up? Would love to play it on ladder.
Hard to tell since there have been less than 20 games on the new version. 8-1 in ZvP doesn't look good though. I don't really recall a lot of games on it (except Shine vs Innovation, lol), but the third is a little hard to take, which might be the reason for the ZvP results. It used to be a really really strong Protoss map due to the main high yield gas though, OP links to old FS and not new for some reason
On June 24 2013 13:16 Hellbat wrote: So what does everyone think of new fighting spirit? It's probably my favorite all time BW map (although admittedly, it is played quite a bit). How is the SC2 version holding up? Would love to play it on ladder.
On June 24 2013 13:16 Hellbat wrote: So what does everyone think of new fighting spirit? It's probably my favorite all time BW map (although admittedly, it is played quite a bit). How is the SC2 version holding up? Would love to play it on ladder.
Hard to tell since there have been less than 20 games on the new version. 8-1 in ZvP doesn't look good though. I don't really recall a lot of games on it (except Shine vs Innovation, lol), but the third is a little hard to take, which might be the reason for the ZvP results. It used to be a really really strong Protoss map due to the main high yield gas though, OP links to old FS and not new for some reason
Ah, I remember that version. Doesn't the 3/6/9/12 bases (the thirds) of the current version have 1 high yield now?
On June 24 2013 13:16 Hellbat wrote: So what does everyone think of new fighting spirit? It's probably my favorite all time BW map (although admittedly, it is played quite a bit). How is the SC2 version holding up? Would love to play it on ladder.
Medusa, sickest BW map
This is a close second. I've watched a lot more sick games on medusa than on FS, but I myself have had a lot more memorable games on FS than medusa.
On June 24 2013 13:16 Hellbat wrote: So what does everyone think of new fighting spirit? It's probably my favorite all time BW map (although admittedly, it is played quite a bit). How is the SC2 version holding up? Would love to play it on ladder.
Hard to tell since there have been less than 20 games on the new version. 8-1 in ZvP doesn't look good though. I don't really recall a lot of games on it (except Shine vs Innovation, lol), but the third is a little hard to take, which might be the reason for the ZvP results. It used to be a really really strong Protoss map due to the main high yield gas though, OP links to old FS and not new for some reason
Ah, I remember that version. Doesn't the 3/6/9/12 bases (the thirds) of the current version have 1 high yield now?
Yes. But 3 fewer probes on 3 bases is an insignificant difference compared to 3 fewer probes on one base.
I'm still waiting for a terran to cc first in the middle and wall off with raxes.
Apparently Shuttle said on his Afreeca stream that Calm is going to the army soon because STX is about to disband We might not get a Proleague next season if it's true because Team 8 will probably disband as well and EG-TL's participation next season isn't decided.
I hope Innovation will win his game after his last loss in PL
On June 24 2013 14:47 Clefairy wrote: Apparently Shuttle said on his Afreeca stream that Calm is going to the army soon because STX is about to disband We might not get a Proleague next season if it's true because Team 8 will probably disband as well and EG-TL's participation next season isn't decided.
Maybe the remainder of the teams will participate in GSTL then. that would be awesome to have such a huge GSTL.
On June 24 2013 14:50 Tachion wrote: Hero's last 12 games in proleague have been win/loss/win/loss/win/loss/win/loss/win/loss/win/loss. He's due for another win. Watch out innovation.
On June 24 2013 14:47 Clefairy wrote: Apparently Shuttle said on his Afreeca stream that Calm is going to the army soon because STX is about to disband We might not get a Proleague next season if it's true because Team 8 will probably disband as well and EG-TL's participation next season isn't decided.
IM_Innovation, calling it now
On a serious note: that leaves Proleague with 6 teams (assuming EGTL continue). GSTL currently have IM, ST, MVP, FXO, Prime, AxA, Azubu and NSHs. 8 teams. I assume Azubu might be in trouble, and NSHs functions more as a clan similar to By or n.die right now than an actual pro-team. 6 PL teams, 6 GSTL teams.
On June 24 2013 14:47 Clefairy wrote: Apparently Shuttle said on his Afreeca stream that Calm is going to the army soon because STX is about to disband We might not get a Proleague next season if it's true because Team 8 will probably disband as well and EG-TL's participation next season isn't decided.
I sincerely hope we get another (and many other) seasons of Proleague. Easily one of the most entertaining league and hands down the best Team League...
On June 24 2013 14:47 Clefairy wrote: Apparently Shuttle said on his Afreeca stream that Calm is going to the army soon because STX is about to disband We might not get a Proleague next season if it's true because Team 8 will probably disband as well and EG-TL's participation next season isn't decided.
Oh calm. Wish he could use his brains to think of some alternate solution.
On June 24 2013 14:47 Clefairy wrote: Apparently Shuttle said on his Afreeca stream that Calm is going to the army soon because STX is about to disband We might not get a Proleague next season if it's true because Team 8 will probably disband as well and EG-TL's participation next season isn't decided.
IM_Innovation, calling it now
On a serious note: that leaves Proleague with 6 teams (assuming EGTL continue). GSTL currently have IM, ST, MVP, FXO, Prime, AxA, Azubu and NSHs. 8 teams. I assume Azubu might be in trouble, and NSHs functions more as a clan similar to By or n.die right now than an actual pro-team. 6 PL teams, 6 GSTL teams.
COMBINED TEAM LEAGUE PLEASE
Combined team league with Innovation on IM ^_^
I could see EG spending all the money to try and get him if they kept a team house in Korea tho, will be interesting to see what happens.
On June 24 2013 14:47 Clefairy wrote: Apparently Shuttle said on his Afreeca stream that Calm is going to the army soon because STX is about to disband We might not get a Proleague next season if it's true because Team 8 will probably disband as well and EG-TL's participation next season isn't decided.
I'm going to call bullshit on STX disbanding, we've heard that before last year and nothing came of it.
On June 24 2013 14:47 Clefairy wrote: Apparently Shuttle said on his Afreeca stream that Calm is going to the army soon because STX is about to disband We might not get a Proleague next season if it's true because Team 8 will probably disband as well and EG-TL's participation next season isn't decided.
I'm going to call bullshit on STX disbanding, we've heard that before last year and nothing came of it.
Yeah we barely really know the real picture
Everyone thought Prime was close to death, then they got a new team house and more players lol
On June 24 2013 14:47 Clefairy wrote: Apparently Shuttle said on his Afreeca stream that Calm is going to the army soon because STX is about to disband We might not get a Proleague next season if it's true because Team 8 will probably disband as well and EG-TL's participation next season isn't decided.
I'm going to call bullshit on STX disbanding, we've heard that before last year and nothing came of it.
Yeah we barely really know the real picture
Everyone thought Prime was close to death, then they got a new team house and more players lol
Yeah that Prime thing was the most mindblowing news to me in quite awhile
On June 24 2013 14:47 Clefairy wrote: Apparently Shuttle said on his Afreeca stream that Calm is going to the army soon because STX is about to disband We might not get a Proleague next season if it's true because Team 8 will probably disband as well and EG-TL's participation next season isn't decided.
I'm going to call bullshit on STX disbanding, we've heard that before last year and nothing came of it.
Yeah we barely really know the real picture
Everyone thought Prime was close to death, then they got a new team house and more players lol
creator and mkp have made almost 300k between them, that can feed a few koreans and rent for a while haha
On June 24 2013 14:47 Clefairy wrote: Apparently Shuttle said on his Afreeca stream that Calm is going to the army soon because STX is about to disband We might not get a Proleague next season if it's true because Team 8 will probably disband as well and EG-TL's participation next season isn't decided.
I'm going to call bullshit on STX disbanding, we've heard that before last year and nothing came of it.
Yeah we barely really know the real picture
Everyone thought Prime was close to death, then they got a new team house and more players lol
Yeah that Prime thing was the most mindblowing news to me in quite awhile
$4.8 billion in debt is a bit bigger than Prime's problems.
On June 24 2013 14:47 Clefairy wrote: Apparently Shuttle said on his Afreeca stream that Calm is going to the army soon because STX is about to disband We might not get a Proleague next season if it's true because Team 8 will probably disband as well and EG-TL's participation next season isn't decided.
I'm going to call bullshit on STX disbanding, we've heard that before last year and nothing came of it.
Yeah we barely really know the real picture
Everyone thought Prime was close to death, then they got a new team house and more players lol
Yeah that Prime thing was the most mindblowing news to me in quite awhile
$4.8 billion in debt is a bit bigger than Prime's problems.
Thankfully that Woongjin Coway bankruptcy thing didn't affect WJS
On June 24 2013 14:47 Clefairy wrote: Apparently Shuttle said on his Afreeca stream that Calm is going to the army soon because STX is about to disband We might not get a Proleague next season if it's true because Team 8 will probably disband as well and EG-TL's participation next season isn't decided.
I'm going to call bullshit on STX disbanding, we've heard that before last year and nothing came of it.
Yeah we barely really know the real picture
Everyone thought Prime was close to death, then they got a new team house and more players lol
Yeah that Prime thing was the most mindblowing news to me in quite awhile
$4.8 billion in debt is a bit bigger than Prime's problems.
On June 24 2013 14:47 Clefairy wrote: Apparently Shuttle said on his Afreeca stream that Calm is going to the army soon because STX is about to disband We might not get a Proleague next season if it's true because Team 8 will probably disband as well and EG-TL's participation next season isn't decided.
I'm going to call bullshit on STX disbanding, we've heard that before last year and nothing came of it.
Yeah we barely really know the real picture
Everyone thought Prime was close to death, then they got a new team house and more players lol
Yeah that Prime thing was the most mindblowing news to me in quite awhile
$4.8 billion in debt is a bit bigger than Prime's problems.
no one buys ship anymore or something ?
I still see STX containers around Asia often. Didn't think they had that much debt lol
On June 24 2013 14:47 Clefairy wrote: Apparently Shuttle said on his Afreeca stream that Calm is going to the army soon because STX is about to disband We might not get a Proleague next season if it's true because Team 8 will probably disband as well and EG-TL's participation next season isn't decided.
I'm going to call bullshit on STX disbanding, we've heard that before last year and nothing came of it.
Yeah we barely really know the real picture
Everyone thought Prime was close to death, then they got a new team house and more players lol
Yeah that Prime thing was the most mindblowing news to me in quite awhile
$4.8 billion in debt is a bit bigger than Prime's problems.
no one buys ship anymore or something ?
I still see STX containers around Asia often. Didn't think they had that much debt lol
That really is a gross amount of money, how one gets that big of a debt is mindboggling
On June 24 2013 14:47 Clefairy wrote: Apparently Shuttle said on his Afreeca stream that Calm is going to the army soon because STX is about to disband We might not get a Proleague next season if it's true because Team 8 will probably disband as well and EG-TL's participation next season isn't decided.
I'm going to call bullshit on STX disbanding, we've heard that before last year and nothing came of it.
Yeah we barely really know the real picture
Everyone thought Prime was close to death, then they got a new team house and more players lol
Yeah that Prime thing was the most mindblowing news to me in quite awhile
$4.8 billion in debt is a bit bigger than Prime's problems.
no one buys ship anymore or something ?
I still see STX containers around Asia often. Didn't think they had that much debt lol
You would be surprised how many giant corporations operate in the red.
On June 24 2013 14:47 Clefairy wrote: Apparently Shuttle said on his Afreeca stream that Calm is going to the army soon because STX is about to disband We might not get a Proleague next season if it's true because Team 8 will probably disband as well and EG-TL's participation next season isn't decided.
I'm going to call bullshit on STX disbanding, we've heard that before last year and nothing came of it.
Yeah we barely really know the real picture
Everyone thought Prime was close to death, then they got a new team house and more players lol
Yeah that Prime thing was the most mindblowing news to me in quite awhile
$4.8 billion in debt is a bit bigger than Prime's problems.
no one buys ship anymore or something ?
I still see STX containers around Asia often. Didn't think they had that much debt lol
You would be surprised how many giant corporations operate in the red.
I'm on TL.net to avoid work, not to talk about businesses and accurate pictures of their finances
Do they use prerecorded cheers for those cheers during the countdown? I always hear more voices than people attending. At the other stadium I understand there are people that stand in the back, but damn.. there's like 5 people at this one
On June 24 2013 15:37 Zenbrez wrote: Do they use prerecorded cheers for those cheers during the countdown? I always hear more voices than people attending. At the other stadium I understand there are people that stand in the back, but damn.. there's like 5 people at this one
there are definitely no prerecorded cheers, just people you can't see on camera.
On June 24 2013 15:52 Thinasy wrote: Mines in TvP and HT drops, what is this.
HT drops are a pretty old concept. Probe drops however...
It's a really old concept, but its not common at all. Probe drops are OP btw.
Marauders really does not give a shit about storms
It used to be more common in BW. But perhaps HT/storms were more powerful back then. It used to do 112 damage (over 7 seconds) compared to 80 damage (over 4 seconds) now. Even though SC2 storms have higher DPS, I think in BW you could storm all areas around the mineral line (including escape path), and you will have your storms last until the escape. Plus each HT used to have enough energy (at max) for 3 storms, compared to 2 now.
On June 24 2013 15:52 Thinasy wrote: Mines in TvP and HT drops, what is this.
HT drops are a pretty old concept. Probe drops however...
It's a really old concept, but its not common at all. Probe drops are OP btw.
Marauders really does not give a shit about storms
It used to be more common in BW. But perhaps HT/storms were more powerful back then. It used to do 112 damage (over 7 seconds) compared to 80 damage (over 4 seconds) now. Even though SC2 storms have higher DPS, I think in BW you could storm all areas around the mineral line (including escape path), and you will have your storms last until the escape. Plus each HT used to have enough energy (at max) for 3 storms, compared to 2 now.
Yep, they used to be viable harrass, I'm not sure about the numbers but the aoe seemed to be larger relative to worker/mineral line size. 2 storms in BW with a late pull in BW were devastating. 2 storms in SC2 might kill 2-3 and scratch the rest.
On June 24 2013 15:52 Thinasy wrote: Mines in TvP and HT drops, what is this.
HT drops are a pretty old concept. Probe drops however...
It's a really old concept, but its not common at all. Probe drops are OP btw.
Marauders really does not give a shit about storms
It used to be more common in BW. But perhaps HT/storms were more powerful back then. It used to do 112 damage (over 7 seconds) compared to 80 damage (over 4 seconds) now. Even though SC2 storms have higher DPS, I think in BW you could storm all areas around the mineral line (including escape path), and you will have your storms last until the escape. Plus each HT used to have enough energy (at max) for 3 storms, compared to 2 now.
Yeah i'm aware^^, I have 2TB of BW Vods. They were alot more powerful then now, i'm probably the only one that feels they should buff storm and tanks though.
On June 24 2013 15:52 Thinasy wrote: Mines in TvP and HT drops, what is this.
HT drops are a pretty old concept. Probe drops however...
It's a really old concept, but its not common at all. Probe drops are OP btw.
Marauders really does not give a shit about storms
It used to be more common in BW. But perhaps HT/storms were more powerful back then. It used to do 112 damage (over 7 seconds) compared to 80 damage (over 4 seconds) now. Even though SC2 storms have higher DPS, I think in BW you could storm all areas around the mineral line (including escape path), and you will have your storms last until the escape. Plus each HT used to have enough energy (at max) for 3 storms, compared to 2 now.
Yeah i'm aware^^, I have 2TB of BW Vods. They were alot more powerful then now, i'm probably the only one that feels they should buff storm and tanks though.
but then your average platinum terran would then complain about their marauders melting together with their marines.
On June 24 2013 15:52 Thinasy wrote: Mines in TvP and HT drops, what is this.
HT drops are a pretty old concept. Probe drops however...
It's a really old concept, but its not common at all. Probe drops are OP btw.
Marauders really does not give a shit about storms
It used to be more common in BW. But perhaps HT/storms were more powerful back then. It used to do 112 damage (over 7 seconds) compared to 80 damage (over 4 seconds) now. Even though SC2 storms have higher DPS, I think in BW you could storm all areas around the mineral line (including escape path), and you will have your storms last until the escape. Plus each HT used to have enough energy (at max) for 3 storms, compared to 2 now.
Yeah i'm aware^^, I have 2TB of BW Vods. They were alot more powerful then now, i'm probably the only one that feels they should buff storm and tanks though.
but then your average platinum terran would then complain about their marauders melting together with their marines.
Screw those guys, you can ask em if they want to play vs colossus instead.
Void Ray Colossus. My friend that got me into StarCraft always told me about those days...I'm glad I never had to experience them, even as a Protoss player. Oh, and this game is slightly starting to get interesting.
On June 24 2013 16:50 RiceAgainst wrote: Void Ray Colossus. My friend that got me into StarCraft always told me about those days...I'm glad I never had to experience them, even as a Protoss player. Oh, and this game is slightly starting to get interesting.
The good days, before Zerg players realised the Infestor was in the game.
On June 24 2013 16:56 dainbramage wrote: This game should be titled "what if silver leagues had GM mechanics" or something. I have no idea wtf either player is aiming for.
Same. It had potential to be a good/quick game but now it's just going to drag out and be annoying.
On June 24 2013 17:00 Matoo- wrote: This game is awful
Really? I think its pretty cool, lots of action all over the map.
Yeah, agreed. It's been good from the get go, I think.
Classic lost his window though, maybe. Unless he sets up his production on the other side of the map but it may be late. He should have attacked earlier or transitioned into Tempests (heck, maybe even Carriers). Of course, hindsight and all that.
Edit/ Enough eco damage may have been done to Effort though.
Edit 2/ Good game. I liked watching that. In retrospect, Classic may have made that harder than it should have been.
On June 24 2013 17:05 dainbramage wrote: I feel like if effort just made a greater spire or ultralisk cavern when he had that 3k/2k bank this game would've ended about 15 minutes ago.
You don't like the classic SH/roach/hydra/corruptor/infestor/overseer/viper composition?
GG. I'm gonna sleep now. That was a decent long PvZ. Most PvZs that get that long are usually worse. Good night guys, probably STX gonna win but I hope I wake up to a 3-4.
On June 24 2013 17:00 Matoo- wrote: This game is awful
Really? I think its pretty cool, lots of action all over the map.
Beyond awful. Such passive play and so boring.
It's not really passive. There's a lot of positioning and maneuvering around the map to find a weak spot or catch opponent's out of position.
I don't get how it's passive at all...
Classic was denying Effort's bases constantly, Effort was moving his swarm hosts around using nydus to deny Classic's bases, there wasn't a minute where neither player attacked...If that's passive for you I don't know what you want.
On June 24 2013 17:05 dainbramage wrote: I feel like if effort just made a greater spire or ultralisk cavern when he had that 3k/2k bank this game would've ended about 15 minutes ago.
You don't like the classic SH/roach/hydra/corruptor/infestor/overseer/viper composition?
Only when it's supported by about 15 dead nydus worms and 5 sniped hatcheries.
EDIT: But it is definitely effective against the "randomly fly 10 voids over infestors and spores 5 times but eventually forget to bring your mamacore" build.
On June 24 2013 17:00 Matoo- wrote: This game is awful
Really? I think its pretty cool, lots of action all over the map.
Beyond awful. Such passive play and so boring.
It's not really passive. There's a lot of positioning and maneuvering around the map to find a weak spot or catch opponent's out of position.
I don't get how it's passive at all...
Classic was denying Effort's bases constantly, Effort was moving his swarm hosts around using nydus to deny Classic's bases, there wasn't a minute where neither player attacked...If that's passive for you I don't know what you want.
On June 24 2013 17:08 RiceAgainst wrote: GG. I'm gonna sleep now. That was a decent long PvZ. Most PvZs that get that long are usually worse. Good night guys, probably STX gonna win but I hope I wake up to a 3-4.
Bedtime for me too. Time to switch off the laptop and chill before getting some zzzzs. I am tired.
On June 24 2013 17:00 Matoo- wrote: This game is awful
Really? I think its pretty cool, lots of action all over the map.
Beyond awful. Such passive play and so boring.
It's not really passive. There's a lot of positioning and maneuvering around the map to find a weak spot or catch opponent's out of position.
I don't get how it's passive at all...
Classic was denying Effort's bases constantly, Effort was moving his swarm hosts around using nydus to deny Classic's bases, there wasn't a minute where neither player attacked...If that's passive for you I don't know what you want.
Well, when all your movement around the map is decided by waiting for more locust waves. And when you cant do anything without swarm hosts because your supply does not allow it to even break 5-6 cannons.
how could people actually enjoy that game is beyond me. Props to Blizz for creating an unit that can generate boring and awful game. Thats mind-blowing
On June 24 2013 17:08 FetTerBender wrote: Wow, i was pretty sure eff0rt would win due to his constant use of SH´s. What killed him?
he seemed to be trading well but he couldn't get any bases up in the top left for any amount of time while Classic had several of them.
Waste 20 nyduses trying to attack? Worth it!
Build a nydus to defend far away expansions? Waste of money yo
Haha this exactly. He made nyduses for his swarm hosts to hit Classic's expansions but never seemed to put it together that it could also solve the problem of saving his own.
On June 24 2013 17:12 Arceus wrote: how could people actually enjoy that game is beyond me. Props to Blizz for creating an unit that can generate boring and awful game. Thats mind-blowing
When your average PvZ is "we are both gonna wait for our deathball and then attack into each other" this game was refreshing, cause generally PvZ is an awful MU imo
On June 24 2013 17:12 Arceus wrote: how could people actually enjoy that game is beyond me. Props to Blizz for creating an unit that can generate boring and awful game. Thats mind-blowing
how could people actually not enjoy that game is beyond me. Props to Blizz for creating a unit that can generate exciting positional games. That's mind-blowing. please arceus, you're better than that.
On June 24 2013 17:12 Arceus wrote: how could people actually enjoy that game is beyond me. Props to Blizz for creating an unit that can generate boring and awful game. Thats mind-blowing
because people like different things than you? lol. I thought the game was ok. When I tuned in, all I saw was action all around. I think the constant maneuvering, using nydus worms, setting up engagements etc... are what made that match. Heck, at one point, Effort was actually up in supply after he went offensive and took out almost all of classic's army minus 7 stalkers. Had he attacked the base that had the 2 robo and protected his expansions with spines/nydus worms, he might've made a comeback in that game.
On June 24 2013 17:12 Arceus wrote: how could people actually enjoy that game is beyond me. Props to Blizz for creating an unit that can generate boring and awful game. Thats mind-blowing
Because it was very tense till the end? Because both players used almost every unit they can do? Because there was non stop action?
On June 24 2013 17:12 Arceus wrote: how could people actually enjoy that game is beyond me. Props to Blizz for creating an unit that can generate boring and awful game. Thats mind-blowing
When your average PvZ is "we are both gonna wait for our deathball and then attack into each other" this game was refreshing, cause generally PvZ is an awful MU imo
PvZ is far less about deathballing than it was in WoL. It's a really cool matchup atm. Except SHs.
On June 24 2013 17:17 Valiver wrote: Is it bad when I look forward to the pvp more than the pvz? (and I'm not just saying that about the last game only)
No because PvP is the best mirror right now and actually a really really cool matchup.
On June 24 2013 17:17 Valiver wrote: Is it bad when I look forward to the pvp more than the pvz? (and I'm not just saying that about the last game only)
PvP's actually pretty good nowadays, especially since we are starting to see more varied compositions
If only they'd change that horrible tempest attack sound
On June 24 2013 17:12 Arceus wrote: how could people actually enjoy that game is beyond me. Props to Blizz for creating an unit that can generate boring and awful game. Thats mind-blowing
Because it was very tense till the end? Because both players used almost every unit they can do? Because there was non stop action?
Because i have Classic in my fantasy?
I think your last point nailed it.
Arceus is mad that he has Effort on his fantasy team
On June 24 2013 17:17 Valiver wrote: Is it bad when I look forward to the pvp more than the pvz? (and I'm not just saying that about the last game only)
PvP's actually pretty good nowadays, especially since we are starting to see more varied compositions
If only they'd change that horrible tempest attack sound
On June 24 2013 17:17 Valiver wrote: Is it bad when I look forward to the pvp more than the pvz? (and I'm not just saying that about the last game only)
PvP's actually pretty good nowadays, especially since we are starting to see more varied compositions
If only they'd change that horrible tempest attack sound
But I like the tempest attack sound
yeah, for the sound it makes, it doesn't do as much damage as you'd expect lol
On June 24 2013 17:17 Valiver wrote: Is it bad when I look forward to the pvp more than the pvz? (and I'm not just saying that about the last game only)
PvP's actually pretty good nowadays, especially since we are starting to see more varied compositions
If only they'd change that horrible tempest attack sound
On June 24 2013 17:12 Arceus wrote: how could people actually enjoy that game is beyond me. Props to Blizz for creating an unit that can generate boring and awful game. Thats mind-blowing
When your average PvZ is "we are both gonna wait for our deathball and then attack into each other" this game was refreshing, cause generally PvZ is an awful MU imo
PvZ is far less about deathballing than it was in WoL. It's a really cool matchup atm. Except SHs.
On June 24 2013 17:17 Valiver wrote: Is it bad when I look forward to the pvp more than the pvz? (and I'm not just saying that about the last game only)
No because PvP is the best mirror right now and actually a really really cool matchup.
On June 24 2013 17:12 Arceus wrote: how could people actually enjoy that game is beyond me. Props to Blizz for creating an unit that can generate boring and awful game. Thats mind-blowing
When your average PvZ is "we are both gonna wait for our deathball and then attack into each other" this game was refreshing, cause generally PvZ is an awful MU imo
PvZ is far less about deathballing than it was in WoL. It's a really cool matchup atm. Except SHs.
On June 24 2013 17:17 Valiver wrote: Is it bad when I look forward to the pvp more than the pvz? (and I'm not just saying that about the last game only)
No because PvP is the best mirror right now and actually a really really cool matchup.
Yeah I want vods of any good PvZ's.
sOs on Bel'shir Vestige, spawning at the north position.
On June 24 2013 17:12 Arceus wrote: how could people actually enjoy that game is beyond me. Props to Blizz for creating an unit that can generate boring and awful game. Thats mind-blowing
When your average PvZ is "we are both gonna wait for our deathball and then attack into each other" this game was refreshing, cause generally PvZ is an awful MU imo
PvZ is far less about deathballing than it was in WoL. It's a really cool matchup atm. Except SHs.
On June 24 2013 17:17 Valiver wrote: Is it bad when I look forward to the pvp more than the pvz? (and I'm not just saying that about the last game only)
No because PvP is the best mirror right now and actually a really really cool matchup.
Yeah I want vods of any good PvZ's.
HerO vs Scarlett, HerO vs Revival, HerO vs Roro, sOs vs Symbol, sOs vs Soulkey from WCS Finals. HerO vs Symbol if you enjoy one sided slaughter
Especially HerO vs Roro though. That was a mad good game.
That Classic vs. Effort game.. man. talk about dragged out and scrappy. Surprised he managed to get so many decently effective engagement against that SH army.
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