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On June 23 2013 17:09 Albinoswordfish wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 17:07 Tsubbi wrote:
zerg on 9 game losing streak after this, pretty sure both zvp and zvt winrates are below 40% by now Except their not.
Not quite what you asked for, but Zerg are 16-25 (39%) in non-mirrors this round. 9-21 (30%) after the first week.
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On June 23 2013 17:10 kusto wrote:
I feel a bit sad for Major. It almost looks like he's being excluded from the team a bit - no consoling words or anything after his loss and he's walking around the circle of T8 players when they talk after each match.
I agree, they should console him a bit. Maybe a " better luck next time "?
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On June 23 2013 17:02 WickedBit wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 16:59 playa wrote:
Game reminds me of why I'm so happy Boxer doesn't play anymore. I always thought boxer would just cheese everyone, but every time he would play one of my favorite players, I'd be suckered into the Boxer hype only to witness a 5 minute cheese fest straight off the ladder. Boxer ruined every game I stayed up for that he was involved in and still has left me with hate for him and his fans.
Maybe Flash was just setting up his next opponent so they don't expect the build he wants to go for... cc first. No idea, but too bad this was Major's only shot (unless EG picks him up). Got to learn to love and accept the cheese! Some players are just good at spotting weakness in opponents game and exploiting it in clutch matches. If someone is being super greedy no harm in cheesing them till they stop being greedy!  After all the solution to any cheese is to be less greedy and scout about a bit...
His micro was amazing. I can't lie, it's hard to not have respect for it. But at the same time, he got way too much love. He wasn't an all-around player at all. His macro was subpar and later on once his all-ins stopped working, and he had to try playing more macro oriented games, he was a B-teamer, almost instantly. A comparison would be like Huk. People should still be worshiping him. After all, he won with all-ins when people didn't know how to defend yet. I don't get the love fest for people that dominate games in their infancy with caveman like tactics.
Midas was a better player than boxer, yet he is lucky to even be an afterthought/remembered by most.
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On June 23 2013 17:13 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 17:10 kusto wrote:
I feel a bit sad for Major. It almost looks like he's being excluded from the team a bit - no consoling words or anything after his loss and he's walking around the circle of T8 players when they talk after each match. I agree, they should console him a bit. Maybe a " better luck next time "?
Ooh. That's a lowblow.
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On June 23 2013 17:13 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 17:07 GolemMadness wrote:On June 23 2013 17:04 Hall0wed wrote:On June 23 2013 16:55 Caihead wrote:On June 23 2013 16:55 Hall0wed wrote:On June 23 2013 16:53 Scarecrow wrote:On June 23 2013 16:52 Hall0wed wrote:On June 23 2013 16:50 Scarecrow wrote:On June 23 2013 16:43 m0ck wrote:
Man, Flash is a dick. On June 23 2013 16:49 Hall0wed wrote:
Super lame by Flash. Atleast give the guy a little respect. Flash is a professional, KT's jockeying for playoffs spots and team 8 was up 1. Why screw around when you know a foreigner will fall apart to early aggression? Major went CC first and didn't scout for proxies. Has only himself to blame. lolol so quick on the defense there. Chill. Just saw several stupid posts bashing Flash for winning when his team needed him to. Yeah cause I bashed Flash sooooo hard man. Oh you fanboys sure get yourselves in a mess rather quickly huh? Don't bait like a douchebag. Ahha you call that bait? Seems like I've been giving you guys more credit than you deserve. I obviously didn't expect anyone to take my post so seriously, but I guess fanboys can't see through the rage they get the moment you even slightly insult their idol. Oh god thanks to sOs it seems like every Protoss wants to cannon rush here now. He didn't rage at all...? He explained why Flash did what he did, and then explained that you're not the only one who made a post like that. Really seems like you're the one overreacting here. Well I'm no longer replying to the first guy... I'm now replying to the guy that just called me a "douchebag", different people different words no? Ugh now more and more KT fans are just gonna keep replying to me, no thanks. My initial post wasn't serious, that is my only point, I was just kinda surprised someone actually responded thats all. Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 17:10 Caihead wrote:On June 23 2013 17:04 Hall0wed wrote:On June 23 2013 16:55 Caihead wrote:On June 23 2013 16:55 Hall0wed wrote:On June 23 2013 16:53 Scarecrow wrote:On June 23 2013 16:52 Hall0wed wrote:On June 23 2013 16:50 Scarecrow wrote:On June 23 2013 16:43 m0ck wrote:
Man, Flash is a dick. On June 23 2013 16:49 Hall0wed wrote:
Super lame by Flash. Atleast give the guy a little respect. Flash is a professional, KT's jockeying for playoffs spots and team 8 was up 1. Why screw around when you know a foreigner will fall apart to early aggression? Major went CC first and didn't scout for proxies. Has only himself to blame. lolol so quick on the defense there. Chill. Just saw several stupid posts bashing Flash for winning when his team needed him to. Yeah cause I bashed Flash sooooo hard man. Oh you fanboys sure get yourselves in a mess rather quickly huh? Don't bait like a douchebag. Ahha you call that bait? Seems like I've been giving you guys more credit than you deserve. I obviously didn't expect anyone to take my post so seriously, but I guess fanboys can't see through the rage they get the moment you even slightly insult their idol. Oh god thanks to sOs it seems like every Protoss wants to cannon rush here now. That's why I was cheering for Major and sad that he lost right.... Christ. Why bother calling me a douchebag then? You should have been able to see that my post was all in good fun like it was meant to be.
You are surprised that you get a reaction of rational opinion after you called people fanboys? How did you get so many posts.
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On June 23 2013 17:13 mongmong wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 17:04 Hall0wed wrote:On June 23 2013 16:55 Caihead wrote:On June 23 2013 16:55 Hall0wed wrote:On June 23 2013 16:53 Scarecrow wrote:On June 23 2013 16:52 Hall0wed wrote:On June 23 2013 16:50 Scarecrow wrote:On June 23 2013 16:43 m0ck wrote:
Man, Flash is a dick. On June 23 2013 16:49 Hall0wed wrote:
Super lame by Flash. Atleast give the guy a little respect. Flash is a professional, KT's jockeying for playoffs spots and team 8 was up 1. Why screw around when you know a foreigner will fall apart to early aggression? Major went CC first and didn't scout for proxies. Has only himself to blame. lolol so quick on the defense there. Chill. Just saw several stupid posts bashing Flash for winning when his team needed him to. Yeah cause I bashed Flash sooooo hard man. Oh you fanboys sure get yourselves in a mess rather quickly huh? Don't bait like a douchebag. Ahha you call that bait? Seems like I've been giving you guys more credit than you deserve. I obviously didn't expect anyone to take my post so seriously, but I guess fanboys can't see through the rage they get the moment you even slightly insult their idol. Oh god thanks to sOs it seems like every Protoss wants to cannon rush here now. Hey! liquid hero has been doing it for the last two years and quite successful with it!
Has HerO been cannon rushing lately? Maybe I haven't been watching enough of his games. I only remember JYP's first few games in proleague where he seemed to cannon rush every single time.
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On June 23 2013 17:13 Severian wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 17:09 Albinoswordfish wrote:On June 23 2013 17:07 Tsubbi wrote:
zerg on 9 game losing streak after this, pretty sure both zvp and zvt winrates are below 40% by now Except their not. Not quite what you asked for, but Zerg are 16-25 (39%) in non-mirrors this round. 9-21 (30%) after the first week.
...which definitely matters a lot, right?
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regarding the flash-major game: cc first is as cheesy as proxy marauder: eco cheese vs military cheese.
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Olli
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On June 23 2013 17:16 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 17:13 mongmong wrote:On June 23 2013 17:04 Hall0wed wrote:On June 23 2013 16:55 Caihead wrote:On June 23 2013 16:55 Hall0wed wrote:On June 23 2013 16:53 Scarecrow wrote:On June 23 2013 16:52 Hall0wed wrote:On June 23 2013 16:50 Scarecrow wrote:On June 23 2013 16:43 m0ck wrote:
Man, Flash is a dick. On June 23 2013 16:49 Hall0wed wrote:
Super lame by Flash. Atleast give the guy a little respect. Flash is a professional, KT's jockeying for playoffs spots and team 8 was up 1. Why screw around when you know a foreigner will fall apart to early aggression? Major went CC first and didn't scout for proxies. Has only himself to blame. lolol so quick on the defense there. Chill. Just saw several stupid posts bashing Flash for winning when his team needed him to. Yeah cause I bashed Flash sooooo hard man. Oh you fanboys sure get yourselves in a mess rather quickly huh? Don't bait like a douchebag. Ahha you call that bait? Seems like I've been giving you guys more credit than you deserve. I obviously didn't expect anyone to take my post so seriously, but I guess fanboys can't see through the rage they get the moment you even slightly insult their idol. Oh god thanks to sOs it seems like every Protoss wants to cannon rush here now. Hey! liquid hero has been doing it for the last two years and quite successful with it! Has HerO been cannon rushing lately? Maybe I haven't been watching enough of his games. I only remember JYP's first few games in proleague where he seemed to cannon rush every single time.
He cannon rushed Roro and Soulkey, neither on Belshir Vestige though.
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That depends on your interpretation and the context. I like counting stats, for some reason.
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On June 23 2013 17:13 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 17:12 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:54 Caihead wrote:On June 23 2013 16:52 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:51 Straxis wrote:
Woudn't it be awasome if they go to ace match and 8th team sends MajOr again
wouldnt be worse than EG-TL sending out dong in the ace On June 23 2013 16:54 JP Dayne wrote:On June 23 2013 16:52 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:51 Straxis wrote:
Woudn't it be awasome if they go to ace match and 8th team sends MajOr again
wouldnt be worse than EG-TL sending out dong in the ace zing! when was the last time JD won an official game anyway? poor major :/ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=416588 that was in anticipation of a ZvZ, where Jaedong is actually pretty decent. JD's pvz is his worst MU by far and he just went 0-2 vs a guy named 'Jim' after dreamhack. nothing to see here folks, move along. Jim the Chinese player? That's nothing to be embarassed about..
Yes jim the chinese player. this is a professional korean being sent out as the ace with close to virtual certainty that a toss is being sent out for samsung. you think eg-tl's choice was smart? lol
As far as my derogatory comments about Jim I apologize but i mean come on lol. how can you look at dong's match history and think this is a good choice for the Ace match after seeing him lose dreamhack to a non korean toss, then 0-2'ed vs another non-korean toss within the last 7 days.
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On June 23 2013 17:17 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 17:16 Hall0wed wrote:On June 23 2013 17:13 mongmong wrote:On June 23 2013 17:04 Hall0wed wrote:On June 23 2013 16:55 Caihead wrote:On June 23 2013 16:55 Hall0wed wrote:On June 23 2013 16:53 Scarecrow wrote:On June 23 2013 16:52 Hall0wed wrote:On June 23 2013 16:50 Scarecrow wrote:On June 23 2013 16:43 m0ck wrote:
Man, Flash is a dick. On June 23 2013 16:49 Hall0wed wrote:
Super lame by Flash. Atleast give the guy a little respect. Flash is a professional, KT's jockeying for playoffs spots and team 8 was up 1. Why screw around when you know a foreigner will fall apart to early aggression? Major went CC first and didn't scout for proxies. Has only himself to blame. lolol so quick on the defense there. Chill. Just saw several stupid posts bashing Flash for winning when his team needed him to. Yeah cause I bashed Flash sooooo hard man. Oh you fanboys sure get yourselves in a mess rather quickly huh? Don't bait like a douchebag. Ahha you call that bait? Seems like I've been giving you guys more credit than you deserve. I obviously didn't expect anyone to take my post so seriously, but I guess fanboys can't see through the rage they get the moment you even slightly insult their idol. Oh god thanks to sOs it seems like every Protoss wants to cannon rush here now. Hey! liquid hero has been doing it for the last two years and quite successful with it! Has HerO been cannon rushing lately? Maybe I haven't been watching enough of his games. I only remember JYP's first few games in proleague where he seemed to cannon rush every single time. He cannon rushed Roro and Soulkey, neither on Belshir Vestige though.
Didn't HerO cannon rush on Akilon? I remember it being a brilliant one too
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On June 23 2013 17:17 Hevad Khan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 17:13 Heartland wrote:On June 23 2013 17:12 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:54 Caihead wrote:On June 23 2013 16:52 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:51 Straxis wrote:
Woudn't it be awasome if they go to ace match and 8th team sends MajOr again
wouldnt be worse than EG-TL sending out dong in the ace On June 23 2013 16:54 JP Dayne wrote:On June 23 2013 16:52 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:51 Straxis wrote:
Woudn't it be awasome if they go to ace match and 8th team sends MajOr again
wouldnt be worse than EG-TL sending out dong in the ace zing! when was the last time JD won an official game anyway? poor major :/ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=416588 that was in anticipation of a ZvZ, where Jaedong is actually pretty decent. JD's pvz is his worst MU by far and he just went 0-2 vs a guy named 'Jim' after dreamhack. nothing to see here folks, move along. Jim the Chinese player? That's nothing to be embarassed about.. Yes jim the chinese player. this is a professional korean being sent out as the ace with close to virtual certainty that a toss is being sent out for samsung. you think eg-tl's choice was smart? lol As far as my derogatory comments about Jim I apologize but i mean come on lol. how can you look at dong's match history and think this is a good choice for the Ace match after seeing him lose dreamhack to a non korean toss, then 0-2'ed vs another non-korean toss within the last 7 days.
I wasn't saying anything about the choice as an ace, just that Jim is a great player.
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On June 23 2013 17:19 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 17:17 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 17:13 Heartland wrote:On June 23 2013 17:12 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:54 Caihead wrote:On June 23 2013 16:52 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:51 Straxis wrote:
Woudn't it be awasome if they go to ace match and 8th team sends MajOr again
wouldnt be worse than EG-TL sending out dong in the ace On June 23 2013 16:54 JP Dayne wrote:On June 23 2013 16:52 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:51 Straxis wrote:
Woudn't it be awasome if they go to ace match and 8th team sends MajOr again
wouldnt be worse than EG-TL sending out dong in the ace zing! when was the last time JD won an official game anyway? poor major :/ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=416588 that was in anticipation of a ZvZ, where Jaedong is actually pretty decent. JD's pvz is his worst MU by far and he just went 0-2 vs a guy named 'Jim' after dreamhack. nothing to see here folks, move along. Jim the Chinese player? That's nothing to be embarassed about.. Yes jim the chinese player. this is a professional korean being sent out as the ace with close to virtual certainty that a toss is being sent out for samsung. you think eg-tl's choice was smart? lol As far as my derogatory comments about Jim I apologize but i mean come on lol. how can you look at dong's match history and think this is a good choice for the Ace match after seeing him lose dreamhack to a non korean toss, then 0-2'ed vs another non-korean toss within the last 7 days. I wasn't saying anything about the choice as an ace, just that Jim is a great player.
That's fine. Good for Jim and his family.
EG-TL coach had a moment in outer space though
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On June 23 2013 17:17 Hevad Khan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 17:13 Heartland wrote:On June 23 2013 17:12 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:54 Caihead wrote:On June 23 2013 16:52 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:51 Straxis wrote:
Woudn't it be awasome if they go to ace match and 8th team sends MajOr again
wouldnt be worse than EG-TL sending out dong in the ace On June 23 2013 16:54 JP Dayne wrote:On June 23 2013 16:52 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:51 Straxis wrote:
Woudn't it be awasome if they go to ace match and 8th team sends MajOr again
wouldnt be worse than EG-TL sending out dong in the ace zing! when was the last time JD won an official game anyway? poor major :/ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=416588 that was in anticipation of a ZvZ, where Jaedong is actually pretty decent. JD's pvz is his worst MU by far and he just went 0-2 vs a guy named 'Jim' after dreamhack. nothing to see here folks, move along. Jim the Chinese player? That's nothing to be embarassed about.. Yes jim the chinese player. this is a professional korean being sent out as the ace with close to virtual certainty that a toss is being sent out for samsung. you think eg-tl's choice was smart? lol As far as my derogatory comments about Jim I apologize but i mean come on lol. how can you look at dong's match history and think this is a good choice for the Ace match after seeing him lose dreamhack to a non korean toss, then 0-2'ed vs another non-korean toss within the last 7 days.
Jim was at Dreamhack? I don't remember this.
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On June 23 2013 17:17 Hevad Khan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 17:13 Heartland wrote:On June 23 2013 17:12 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:54 Caihead wrote:On June 23 2013 16:52 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:51 Straxis wrote:
Woudn't it be awasome if they go to ace match and 8th team sends MajOr again
wouldnt be worse than EG-TL sending out dong in the ace On June 23 2013 16:54 JP Dayne wrote:On June 23 2013 16:52 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:51 Straxis wrote:
Woudn't it be awasome if they go to ace match and 8th team sends MajOr again
wouldnt be worse than EG-TL sending out dong in the ace zing! when was the last time JD won an official game anyway? poor major :/ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=416588 that was in anticipation of a ZvZ, where Jaedong is actually pretty decent. JD's pvz is his worst MU by far and he just went 0-2 vs a guy named 'Jim' after dreamhack. nothing to see here folks, move along. Jim the Chinese player? That's nothing to be embarassed about.. Yes jim the chinese player. this is a professional korean being sent out as the ace with close to virtual certainty that a toss is being sent out for samsung. you think eg-tl's choice was smart? lol As far as my derogatory comments about Jim I apologize but i mean come on lol. how can you look at dong's match history and think this is a good choice for the Ace match after seeing him lose dreamhack to a non korean toss, then 0-2'ed vs another non-korean toss within the last 7 days.
Umm, Stardust is korean?
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On June 23 2013 17:20 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 17:17 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 17:13 Heartland wrote:On June 23 2013 17:12 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:54 Caihead wrote:On June 23 2013 16:52 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:51 Straxis wrote:
Woudn't it be awasome if they go to ace match and 8th team sends MajOr again
wouldnt be worse than EG-TL sending out dong in the ace On June 23 2013 16:54 JP Dayne wrote:On June 23 2013 16:52 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:51 Straxis wrote:
Woudn't it be awasome if they go to ace match and 8th team sends MajOr again
wouldnt be worse than EG-TL sending out dong in the ace zing! when was the last time JD won an official game anyway? poor major :/ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=416588 that was in anticipation of a ZvZ, where Jaedong is actually pretty decent. JD's pvz is his worst MU by far and he just went 0-2 vs a guy named 'Jim' after dreamhack. nothing to see here folks, move along. Jim the Chinese player? That's nothing to be embarassed about.. Yes jim the chinese player. this is a professional korean being sent out as the ace with close to virtual certainty that a toss is being sent out for samsung. you think eg-tl's choice was smart? lol As far as my derogatory comments about Jim I apologize but i mean come on lol. how can you look at dong's match history and think this is a good choice for the Ace match after seeing him lose dreamhack to a non korean toss, then 0-2'ed vs another non-korean toss within the last 7 days. Jim was at Dreamhack? I don't remember this.
no Jim was just his last toss opponent in his match history on TLPD
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On June 23 2013 17:20 YoungTyTy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 17:17 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 17:13 Heartland wrote:On June 23 2013 17:12 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:54 Caihead wrote:On June 23 2013 16:52 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:51 Straxis wrote:
Woudn't it be awasome if they go to ace match and 8th team sends MajOr again
wouldnt be worse than EG-TL sending out dong in the ace On June 23 2013 16:54 JP Dayne wrote:On June 23 2013 16:52 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:51 Straxis wrote:
Woudn't it be awasome if they go to ace match and 8th team sends MajOr again
wouldnt be worse than EG-TL sending out dong in the ace zing! when was the last time JD won an official game anyway? poor major :/ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=416588 that was in anticipation of a ZvZ, where Jaedong is actually pretty decent. JD's pvz is his worst MU by far and he just went 0-2 vs a guy named 'Jim' after dreamhack. nothing to see here folks, move along. Jim the Chinese player? That's nothing to be embarassed about.. Yes jim the chinese player. this is a professional korean being sent out as the ace with close to virtual certainty that a toss is being sent out for samsung. you think eg-tl's choice was smart? lol As far as my derogatory comments about Jim I apologize but i mean come on lol. how can you look at dong's match history and think this is a good choice for the Ace match after seeing him lose dreamhack to a non korean toss, then 0-2'ed vs another non-korean toss within the last 7 days. Umm, Stardust is korean?
mYinsanity = european team. korean in this context means korean esf/kespa player in korea on a korean team
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On June 23 2013 17:20 Hevad Khan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 17:20 Hall0wed wrote:On June 23 2013 17:17 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 17:13 Heartland wrote:On June 23 2013 17:12 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:54 Caihead wrote:On June 23 2013 16:52 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:51 Straxis wrote:
Woudn't it be awasome if they go to ace match and 8th team sends MajOr again
wouldnt be worse than EG-TL sending out dong in the ace On June 23 2013 16:54 JP Dayne wrote:On June 23 2013 16:52 Hevad Khan wrote:On June 23 2013 16:51 Straxis wrote:
Woudn't it be awasome if they go to ace match and 8th team sends MajOr again
wouldnt be worse than EG-TL sending out dong in the ace zing! when was the last time JD won an official game anyway? poor major :/ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=416588 that was in anticipation of a ZvZ, where Jaedong is actually pretty decent. JD's pvz is his worst MU by far and he just went 0-2 vs a guy named 'Jim' after dreamhack. nothing to see here folks, move along. Jim the Chinese player? That's nothing to be embarassed about.. Yes jim the chinese player. this is a professional korean being sent out as the ace with close to virtual certainty that a toss is being sent out for samsung. you think eg-tl's choice was smart? lol As far as my derogatory comments about Jim I apologize but i mean come on lol. how can you look at dong's match history and think this is a good choice for the Ace match after seeing him lose dreamhack to a non korean toss, then 0-2'ed vs another non-korean toss within the last 7 days. Jim was at Dreamhack? I don't remember this. no Jim was just his last toss opponent in his match history on TLPD
Oh yeah, they played in WCS NA a few days ago, I knew that. Well Jim has hit #1 on KR GM so its nothing to be ashamed of.
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