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Canada16217 Posts
Poll: Recommend Set 6?Yes (5) 83% Meh (1) 17% No (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Set 6? (Vote): Yes (Vote): Meh (Vote): No
Poll: Recommend Ace Match?Meh (5) 71% Yes (2) 29% No (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ace Match? (Vote): Yes (Vote): Meh (Vote): No
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Norway25712 Posts
Hurrah! Kinda wanted an ace between Baby and Flash, but I don't mind a KT win.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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Hitman to finish the job...
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I'm a fan of any sort of game that deviates from meta nydus worm? HELL YEA I'LL RECOMMEND THAT GAME
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On June 23 2013 17:23 Locke- wrote: I always wondered: are the fangirls from SC2 matches in Korea actually interested in the game or are they there only for the players? .../
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ruff times for cure since his great win streak that followed after his nice win vs soulkey.
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On June 23 2013 17:23 Locke- wrote: I always wondered: are the TL viewers from SC2 matches in Korea actually interested in the game or are they there only for the players?
fixed.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On June 23 2013 17:37 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 17:23 Locke- wrote: I always wondered: are the fangirls from SC2 matches in Korea actually interested in the game or are they there only for the players? .../
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On June 23 2013 17:23 Tsubbi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 17:16 DidYuhim wrote:On June 23 2013 17:13 Severian wrote:On June 23 2013 17:09 Albinoswordfish wrote:On June 23 2013 17:07 Tsubbi wrote: zerg on 9 game losing streak after this, pretty sure both zvp and zvt winrates are below 40% by now Except their not. Not quite what you asked for, but Zerg are 16-25 (39%) in non-mirrors this round. 9-21 (30%) after the first week. ...which definitely matters a lot, right? here are the hots winrates exluding todays matches: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/hots/leagues/3724_2012-2013_SK_Planet_Starcraft_II_Proleague_(HotS)with todays results zvt is at 25:43 (36,7%) and zvp at 42:57 (42,4 %)
It's not particularly informative to look at winrates across all of proleague. If a race is at an obvious disadvantage, coaches would just choose to not send that race out, instead of sending them out to die. The format makes it so that race imbalance leads to that race not getting matches. (The BW map Central Plains is an especially hilarious example of this).
It's more interesting IMO to look at what players actually do get sent out. Out of the 411 games in that list, there were 392 protosses, 203 terrans, and 199 zergs. Clearly, KeSPA coaches think protoss is strong, or they wouldn't be sent out in almost as many games as the other two races combined.
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On June 23 2013 17:23 Locke- wrote: I always wondered: are the fangirls from SC2 matches in Korea actually interested in the game or are they there only for the players? I wonder the same thing about some of the Korean guys who show up to live matches as well
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Well, I just saw the Flash v Major game. It was a cheeky proxy marauder, but I wouldn't say it was a blatant cheese (e.g. proxy 2-rax), so I don't see why people are dissing Flash. In fact, it seemed rather defensible had Major not been so greedy himself, and I think Flash himself was surprised how greedy Major was and how he eventually dealt so much damage.
It was probably good it ended early. If Flash had really played solid macro, the supply difference and skill gap would be even more apparent, more drawn out, and more painful to watch.
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Scoring:
KT +3
Stats +4 Jaehoon +3 BaBy +3 Flash +4 Wooki +4 hitmaN +4
all other KT players +1
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On June 23 2013 19:58 RKC wrote: Well, I just saw the Flash v Major game. It was a cheeky proxy marauder, but I wouldn't say it was a blatant cheese (e.g. proxy 2-rax), so I don't see why people are dissing Flash. In fact, it seemed rather defensible had Major not been so greedy himself, and I think Flash himself was surprised how greedy Major was and how he eventually dealt so much damage.
It was probably good it ended early. If Flash had really played solid macro, the supply difference and skill gap would be even more apparent, more drawn out, and more painful to watch.
No one's actually angry at Flash lol
Everyone knows it was a courtesy game and there was little chance of Major winning
Everyone just feels bad for Major, that he didn't get to have more time on TV and at least try to impress. That's life!
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On June 23 2013 21:39 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 19:58 RKC wrote: Well, I just saw the Flash v Major game. It was a cheeky proxy marauder, but I wouldn't say it was a blatant cheese (e.g. proxy 2-rax), so I don't see why people are dissing Flash. In fact, it seemed rather defensible had Major not been so greedy himself, and I think Flash himself was surprised how greedy Major was and how he eventually dealt so much damage.
It was probably good it ended early. If Flash had really played solid macro, the supply difference and skill gap would be even more apparent, more drawn out, and more painful to watch. No one's actually angry at Flash lol Everyone knows it was a courtesy game and there was little chance of Major winning Everyone just feels bad for Major, that he didn't get to have more time on TV and at least try to impress. That's life!
Some people were kinda sore, in the LR.
Anyway, Major should feel happy. Like what someone said in the other thread, it was an honour playing against Flash in SPL. A parallel example is football - Tahiti in the Confederations Cup. They had just been battered by Spain, the reigning World and European champs, 10-0 in the last game. Were they sad? No way! It was the game of their lives, an experience they will regale to their kids and grandkids in years to come.
Every sport should have a "Cool Running" underdog story. It's great drama and history.
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While I'm happy that KT won (I'd be crushed if they had lost), it's still sad to see how noone else on Team8 seems to be able to pick up victories except for Argo and TY 
Someone is really mad that flash destroyed Major? Sheesh, it's no practice game, of course you'd play your best to win.
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Bisutopia19152 Posts
On June 23 2013 22:22 RKC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 21:39 lichter wrote:On June 23 2013 19:58 RKC wrote: Well, I just saw the Flash v Major game. It was a cheeky proxy marauder, but I wouldn't say it was a blatant cheese (e.g. proxy 2-rax), so I don't see why people are dissing Flash. In fact, it seemed rather defensible had Major not been so greedy himself, and I think Flash himself was surprised how greedy Major was and how he eventually dealt so much damage.
It was probably good it ended early. If Flash had really played solid macro, the supply difference and skill gap would be even more apparent, more drawn out, and more painful to watch. No one's actually angry at Flash lol Everyone knows it was a courtesy game and there was little chance of Major winning Everyone just feels bad for Major, that he didn't get to have more time on TV and at least try to impress. That's life! Some people were kinda sore, in the LR. Anyway, Major should feel happy. Like what someone said in the other thread, it was an honour playing against Flash in SPL. A parallel example is football - Tahiti in the Confederations Cup. They had just been battered by Spain, the reigning World and European champs, 10-0 in the last game. Were they sad? No way! It was the game of their lives, an experience they will regale to their kids and grandkids in years to come. Every sport should have a "Cool Running" underdog story. It's great drama and history. Yeah, but a screw didn't come loose in Major's booth causing it to fall apart forcing Major to hold the booth up with one hand while he finished the game with his other.
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Hurray KT is now officially in the playoffs. A matter of securing that 2nd place now T_T
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TLADT24920 Posts
Got a chance to watch the vod to see how the game finished. I thought that major went rax first then cc but apparently not :O His decision making was terrible as in he dropped the depot, repaired then moved back his SCVs and must've misclicked or something because they weren't repairing. That and he should've started a bunker as soon as he saw the 2 marauders. Like instantly, 5-7 SCVs, 1 to build and the rest to repair and pull back wounded ones etc... Had he done that, then he would've been ahead and Flash would've been down one cc which was still building. I'm not sure what the floating rax above major's ramp was for though lol
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On June 23 2013 17:45 b0lt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 17:23 Tsubbi wrote:On June 23 2013 17:16 DidYuhim wrote:On June 23 2013 17:13 Severian wrote:On June 23 2013 17:09 Albinoswordfish wrote:On June 23 2013 17:07 Tsubbi wrote: zerg on 9 game losing streak after this, pretty sure both zvp and zvt winrates are below 40% by now Except their not. Not quite what you asked for, but Zerg are 16-25 (39%) in non-mirrors this round. 9-21 (30%) after the first week. ...which definitely matters a lot, right? here are the hots winrates exluding todays matches: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/hots/leagues/3724_2012-2013_SK_Planet_Starcraft_II_Proleague_(HotS)with todays results zvt is at 25:43 (36,7%) and zvp at 42:57 (42,4 %) It's not particularly informative to look at winrates across all of proleague. If a race is at an obvious disadvantage, coaches would just choose to not send that race out, instead of sending them out to die. The format makes it so that race imbalance leads to that race not getting matches. (The BW map Central Plains is an especially hilarious example of this). It's more interesting IMO to look at what players actually do get sent out. Out of the 411 games in that list, there were 392 protosses, 203 terrans, and 199 zergs. Clearly, KeSPA coaches think protoss is strong, or they wouldn't be sent out in almost as many games as the other two races combined.
Funny, but it seems that even in BW, Proleague is full of Protoss. There were a lot of zergs qualifying in the individual leagues, a terran would win the individual league titles often, but protoss would still dominate Proleague.
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