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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 23 2013 08:29 GMT
#401
Poll: Recommend Set 6?

Yes (5)
 
83%

Meh (1)
 
17%

No (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 6?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): Meh
(Vote): No


Poll: Recommend Ace Match?

Meh (5)
 
71%

Yes (2)
 
29%

No (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Ace Match?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): Meh
(Vote): No


Moderatorlickypiddy
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
June 23 2013 08:29 GMT
#402
Hurrah! Kinda wanted an ace between Baby and Flash, but I don't mind a KT win.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 23 2013 08:30 GMT
#403
Midgetzerg so short dang
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
June 23 2013 08:30 GMT
#404
Hitman to finish the job...
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
JP Dayne
Profile Joined June 2013
538 Posts
June 23 2013 08:35 GMT
#405
I'm a fan of any sort of game that deviates from meta
nydus worm? HELL YEA I'LL RECOMMEND THAT GAME
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)2399 Posts
June 23 2013 08:37 GMT
#406
On June 23 2013 17:23 Locke- wrote:
I always wondered: are the fangirls from SC2 matches in Korea actually interested in the game or are they there only for the players?

.../
Progamer
Hevad Khan
Profile Joined May 2009
United States158 Posts
June 23 2013 08:40 GMT
#407
ruff times for cure since his great win streak that followed after his nice win vs soulkey.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
June 23 2013 08:40 GMT
#408
On June 23 2013 17:23 Locke- wrote:
I always wondered: are the TL viewers from SC2 matches in Korea actually interested in the game or are they there only for the players?


fixed.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 23 2013 08:41 GMT
#409
On June 23 2013 17:37 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 17:23 Locke- wrote:
I always wondered: are the fangirls from SC2 matches in Korea actually interested in the game or are they there only for the players?

.../


../.?
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 08:45:30
June 23 2013 08:45 GMT
#410
On June 23 2013 17:23 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 17:16 DidYuhim wrote:
On June 23 2013 17:13 Severian wrote:
On June 23 2013 17:09 Albinoswordfish wrote:
On June 23 2013 17:07 Tsubbi wrote:
zerg on 9 game losing streak after this, pretty sure both zvp and zvt winrates are below 40% by now


Except their not.

Not quite what you asked for, but Zerg are 16-25 (39%) in non-mirrors this round. 9-21 (30%) after the first week.

...which definitely matters a lot, right?


here are the hots winrates exluding todays matches: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/hots/leagues/3724_2012-2013_SK_Planet_Starcraft_II_Proleague_(HotS)

with todays results zvt is at 25:43 (36,7%) and zvp at 42:57 (42,4 %)


It's not particularly informative to look at winrates across all of proleague. If a race is at an obvious disadvantage, coaches would just choose to not send that race out, instead of sending them out to die. The format makes it so that race imbalance leads to that race not getting matches. (The BW map Central Plains is an especially hilarious example of this).

It's more interesting IMO to look at what players actually do get sent out. Out of the 411 games in that list, there were 392 protosses, 203 terrans, and 199 zergs. Clearly, KeSPA coaches think protoss is strong, or they wouldn't be sent out in almost as many games as the other two races combined.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
June 23 2013 09:59 GMT
#411
On June 23 2013 17:23 Locke- wrote:
I always wondered: are the fangirls from SC2 matches in Korea actually interested in the game or are they there only for the players?

I wonder the same thing about some of the Korean guys who show up to live matches as well
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 23 2013 10:58 GMT
#412
Well, I just saw the Flash v Major game. It was a cheeky proxy marauder, but I wouldn't say it was a blatant cheese (e.g. proxy 2-rax), so I don't see why people are dissing Flash. In fact, it seemed rather defensible had Major not been so greedy himself, and I think Flash himself was surprised how greedy Major was and how he eventually dealt so much damage.

It was probably good it ended early. If Flash had really played solid macro, the supply difference and skill gap would be even more apparent, more drawn out, and more painful to watch.
gg no re thx
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
June 23 2013 12:34 GMT
#413
Scoring:

KT +3

Stats +4
Jaehoon +3
BaBy +3
Flash +4
Wooki +4
hitmaN +4

all other KT players +1
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 23 2013 12:39 GMT
#414
On June 23 2013 19:58 RKC wrote:
Well, I just saw the Flash v Major game. It was a cheeky proxy marauder, but I wouldn't say it was a blatant cheese (e.g. proxy 2-rax), so I don't see why people are dissing Flash. In fact, it seemed rather defensible had Major not been so greedy himself, and I think Flash himself was surprised how greedy Major was and how he eventually dealt so much damage.

It was probably good it ended early. If Flash had really played solid macro, the supply difference and skill gap would be even more apparent, more drawn out, and more painful to watch.


No one's actually angry at Flash lol

Everyone knows it was a courtesy game and there was little chance of Major winning

Everyone just feels bad for Major, that he didn't get to have more time on TV and at least try to impress. That's life!
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 23 2013 13:22 GMT
#415
On June 23 2013 21:39 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 19:58 RKC wrote:
Well, I just saw the Flash v Major game. It was a cheeky proxy marauder, but I wouldn't say it was a blatant cheese (e.g. proxy 2-rax), so I don't see why people are dissing Flash. In fact, it seemed rather defensible had Major not been so greedy himself, and I think Flash himself was surprised how greedy Major was and how he eventually dealt so much damage.

It was probably good it ended early. If Flash had really played solid macro, the supply difference and skill gap would be even more apparent, more drawn out, and more painful to watch.


No one's actually angry at Flash lol

Everyone knows it was a courtesy game and there was little chance of Major winning

Everyone just feels bad for Major, that he didn't get to have more time on TV and at least try to impress. That's life!


Some people were kinda sore, in the LR.

Anyway, Major should feel happy. Like what someone said in the other thread, it was an honour playing against Flash in SPL. A parallel example is football - Tahiti in the Confederations Cup. They had just been battered by Spain, the reigning World and European champs, 10-0 in the last game. Were they sad? No way! It was the game of their lives, an experience they will regale to their kids and grandkids in years to come.

Every sport should have a "Cool Running" underdog story. It's great drama and history.
gg no re thx
crashonly
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland418 Posts
June 23 2013 17:47 GMT
#416
While I'm happy that KT won (I'd be crushed if they had lost), it's still sad to see how noone else on Team8 seems to be able to pick up victories except for Argo and TY

Someone is really mad that flash destroyed Major? Sheesh, it's no practice game, of course you'd play your best to win.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19366 Posts
June 23 2013 18:49 GMT
#417
On June 23 2013 22:22 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 21:39 lichter wrote:
On June 23 2013 19:58 RKC wrote:
Well, I just saw the Flash v Major game. It was a cheeky proxy marauder, but I wouldn't say it was a blatant cheese (e.g. proxy 2-rax), so I don't see why people are dissing Flash. In fact, it seemed rather defensible had Major not been so greedy himself, and I think Flash himself was surprised how greedy Major was and how he eventually dealt so much damage.

It was probably good it ended early. If Flash had really played solid macro, the supply difference and skill gap would be even more apparent, more drawn out, and more painful to watch.


No one's actually angry at Flash lol

Everyone knows it was a courtesy game and there was little chance of Major winning

Everyone just feels bad for Major, that he didn't get to have more time on TV and at least try to impress. That's life!


Some people were kinda sore, in the LR.

Anyway, Major should feel happy. Like what someone said in the other thread, it was an honour playing against Flash in SPL. A parallel example is football - Tahiti in the Confederations Cup. They had just been battered by Spain, the reigning World and European champs, 10-0 in the last game. Were they sad? No way! It was the game of their lives, an experience they will regale to their kids and grandkids in years to come.

Every sport should have a "Cool Running" underdog story. It's great drama and history.

Yeah, but a screw didn't come loose in Major's booth causing it to fall apart forcing Major to hold the booth up with one hand while he finished the game with his other.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
June 23 2013 19:08 GMT
#418
Hurray KT is now officially in the playoffs. A matter of securing that 2nd place now T_T
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 23 2013 19:10 GMT
#419
Got a chance to watch the vod to see how the game finished. I thought that major went rax first then cc but apparently not :O His decision making was terrible as in he dropped the depot, repaired then moved back his SCVs and must've misclicked or something because they weren't repairing. That and he should've started a bunker as soon as he saw the 2 marauders. Like instantly, 5-7 SCVs, 1 to build and the rest to repair and pull back wounded ones etc... Had he done that, then he would've been ahead and Flash would've been down one cc which was still building. I'm not sure what the floating rax above major's ramp was for though lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 23 2013 19:42 GMT
#420
On June 23 2013 17:45 b0lt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 17:23 Tsubbi wrote:
On June 23 2013 17:16 DidYuhim wrote:
On June 23 2013 17:13 Severian wrote:
On June 23 2013 17:09 Albinoswordfish wrote:
On June 23 2013 17:07 Tsubbi wrote:
zerg on 9 game losing streak after this, pretty sure both zvp and zvt winrates are below 40% by now


Except their not.

Not quite what you asked for, but Zerg are 16-25 (39%) in non-mirrors this round. 9-21 (30%) after the first week.

...which definitely matters a lot, right?


here are the hots winrates exluding todays matches: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/hots/leagues/3724_2012-2013_SK_Planet_Starcraft_II_Proleague_(HotS)

with todays results zvt is at 25:43 (36,7%) and zvp at 42:57 (42,4 %)


It's not particularly informative to look at winrates across all of proleague. If a race is at an obvious disadvantage, coaches would just choose to not send that race out, instead of sending them out to die. The format makes it so that race imbalance leads to that race not getting matches. (The BW map Central Plains is an especially hilarious example of this).

It's more interesting IMO to look at what players actually do get sent out. Out of the 411 games in that list, there were 392 protosses, 203 terrans, and 199 zergs. Clearly, KeSPA coaches think protoss is strong, or they wouldn't be sent out in almost as many games as the other two races combined.


Funny, but it seems that even in BW, Proleague is full of Protoss. There were a lot of zergs qualifying in the individual leagues, a terran would win the individual league titles often, but protoss would still dominate Proleague.
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