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jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
June 22 2013 17:28 GMT
#1401
ToD set himself up horribly for that last engagement and just threw it he knew he was done. was probably tilting hence the terrible micro
(>'.')>
TTOMZ
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom156 Posts
June 22 2013 17:29 GMT
#1402
I really enjoyed Bling, Babyknight and Daishy

again?
9 pool you say?
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
June 22 2013 17:29 GMT
#1403
On June 23 2013 02:25 NovemberstOrm wrote:
ToD expressing his feelings on twitter:

Whats he complaining for.it was a standard WoL game, he got outplayed simple as that
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
June 22 2013 17:29 GMT
#1404
Sad to see nightend lose but maybe we'll hear him cast more! (same for tod)
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 22 2013 17:29 GMT
#1405
On June 23 2013 02:28 revel8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 02:26 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:17 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:10 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:06 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:05 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:38 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
TLO isn't the best yet, Lucifron and Stephano still better, Snute on a similar level. But he needs to go from consistent RO8 to actually getting to finals to be considered best. Consistency is overrated .


Lucifron is awesome, but you can't say that Lucifron is better, TLOs beaten him at least in 3 different series when they've run into each other, and even though your criteria for being considered best is getting to finals, Lucifron has not made the finals of a premier tournament. And although Stephano has also won against TLO in the past, TLO had the upper hand in their most recent encounter, winning against him in their group at WCS Finals. Stephano also hasn't even gotten close to the finals of a premier tournament lately unless you count WCS EU, but the advantage over TLO there was the reuslt of an unlucky bracket, since TLO got paired with the eventual champion in the ro8 (who Stephano also lost to). TLO could have beaten anyone else in that top 8 to make it to the finals.


You're counting WCS EU for TLO when it comes to beating lucifron, but discounting WCS EU when talking about Stephano getting to the finals.


I'm referring to WCSU EU for lucifron because TLO and lucifron played each other head to head in that tournament. TLO and Stephano did not. So the only comparison for them at WCS EU would be their placements, but like I explained, if their bracket positions had been switched, TLO could have easily been in finals while Stephano would have been the one knocked out in the ro8, an unfortunate outcome of unlucky bracket placement (especially given the fact that they both won 1st in their groups).


When talking about what player is better than the other, head-to-head probably isn't the best way to go about it. TLO beat Lucifron a few times, but lost 0-3 to MVP. Conversely Lucifron beat MVP 2-0 when they met. And you can't say, oh if he got a bit luckier in brackets he could have gone farther, you can literally say the same thing about anyone. If Lucifron didn't get hit by a coin, he could have won Dreamhack.


You misunderstand my post - nowhere did I say that TLO is better than Stephano. My post is in response to someone claiming that Lucifron and Stephano are better. In reality, it would be difficult to compare TLO and Stephano, and I don't think you can say one is definitively better than the other.


Stephano is definitively better than TLO. If you disagree, then LOL

Lucifron is the best at playing starcraft, TLO is the craftiest one and Stephano is the best at winning
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
June 22 2013 17:29 GMT
#1406
On June 23 2013 02:28 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Translater dude just submitted this


Video is private yo
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
June 22 2013 17:29 GMT
#1407
tod watching the replay, he will kill himself
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
June 22 2013 17:29 GMT
#1408
dat ToD throw
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
June 22 2013 17:30 GMT
#1409
On June 23 2013 02:29 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 02:28 revel8 wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:26 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:17 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:10 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:06 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:05 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:38 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
TLO isn't the best yet, Lucifron and Stephano still better, Snute on a similar level. But he needs to go from consistent RO8 to actually getting to finals to be considered best. Consistency is overrated .


Lucifron is awesome, but you can't say that Lucifron is better, TLOs beaten him at least in 3 different series when they've run into each other, and even though your criteria for being considered best is getting to finals, Lucifron has not made the finals of a premier tournament. And although Stephano has also won against TLO in the past, TLO had the upper hand in their most recent encounter, winning against him in their group at WCS Finals. Stephano also hasn't even gotten close to the finals of a premier tournament lately unless you count WCS EU, but the advantage over TLO there was the reuslt of an unlucky bracket, since TLO got paired with the eventual champion in the ro8 (who Stephano also lost to). TLO could have beaten anyone else in that top 8 to make it to the finals.


You're counting WCS EU for TLO when it comes to beating lucifron, but discounting WCS EU when talking about Stephano getting to the finals.


I'm referring to WCSU EU for lucifron because TLO and lucifron played each other head to head in that tournament. TLO and Stephano did not. So the only comparison for them at WCS EU would be their placements, but like I explained, if their bracket positions had been switched, TLO could have easily been in finals while Stephano would have been the one knocked out in the ro8, an unfortunate outcome of unlucky bracket placement (especially given the fact that they both won 1st in their groups).


When talking about what player is better than the other, head-to-head probably isn't the best way to go about it. TLO beat Lucifron a few times, but lost 0-3 to MVP. Conversely Lucifron beat MVP 2-0 when they met. And you can't say, oh if he got a bit luckier in brackets he could have gone farther, you can literally say the same thing about anyone. If Lucifron didn't get hit by a coin, he could have won Dreamhack.


You misunderstand my post - nowhere did I say that TLO is better than Stephano. My post is in response to someone claiming that Lucifron and Stephano are better. In reality, it would be difficult to compare TLO and Stephano, and I don't think you can say one is definitively better than the other.


Stephano is definitively better than TLO. If you disagree, then LOL

Lucifron is the best at playing starcraft, TLO is the craftiest one and Stephano is the best at winning


I like all three.
eurTsItniH
Profile Joined January 2012
887 Posts
June 22 2013 17:30 GMT
#1410
On June 23 2013 02:29 TTOMZ wrote:
I really enjoyed Bling, Babyknight and Daishy

again?


Yeah I like them aswell. Anyway that was unfortunate ToD, a pretty good showing nonetheless. If you could stop throwing games now, that would be great. I still <3 you though!
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
June 22 2013 17:31 GMT
#1411
On June 23 2013 02:29 Topdoller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 02:25 NovemberstOrm wrote:
ToD expressing his feelings on twitter:
https://twitter.com/ToDsc2/status/348491402767892482

Whats he complaining for.it was a standard WoL game, he got outplayed simple as that

How was that getting out played he was constantly destroying happy's mining.
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1777 Posts
June 22 2013 17:31 GMT
#1412
Nothing like raging at a laid back HSC tournament. Class, ToD.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 22 2013 17:32 GMT
#1413
On June 23 2013 02:30 revel8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 02:29 Schelim wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:28 revel8 wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:26 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:17 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:10 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:06 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:05 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:38 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
TLO isn't the best yet, Lucifron and Stephano still better, Snute on a similar level. But he needs to go from consistent RO8 to actually getting to finals to be considered best. Consistency is overrated .


Lucifron is awesome, but you can't say that Lucifron is better, TLOs beaten him at least in 3 different series when they've run into each other, and even though your criteria for being considered best is getting to finals, Lucifron has not made the finals of a premier tournament. And although Stephano has also won against TLO in the past, TLO had the upper hand in their most recent encounter, winning against him in their group at WCS Finals. Stephano also hasn't even gotten close to the finals of a premier tournament lately unless you count WCS EU, but the advantage over TLO there was the reuslt of an unlucky bracket, since TLO got paired with the eventual champion in the ro8 (who Stephano also lost to). TLO could have beaten anyone else in that top 8 to make it to the finals.


You're counting WCS EU for TLO when it comes to beating lucifron, but discounting WCS EU when talking about Stephano getting to the finals.


I'm referring to WCSU EU for lucifron because TLO and lucifron played each other head to head in that tournament. TLO and Stephano did not. So the only comparison for them at WCS EU would be their placements, but like I explained, if their bracket positions had been switched, TLO could have easily been in finals while Stephano would have been the one knocked out in the ro8, an unfortunate outcome of unlucky bracket placement (especially given the fact that they both won 1st in their groups).


When talking about what player is better than the other, head-to-head probably isn't the best way to go about it. TLO beat Lucifron a few times, but lost 0-3 to MVP. Conversely Lucifron beat MVP 2-0 when they met. And you can't say, oh if he got a bit luckier in brackets he could have gone farther, you can literally say the same thing about anyone. If Lucifron didn't get hit by a coin, he could have won Dreamhack.


You misunderstand my post - nowhere did I say that TLO is better than Stephano. My post is in response to someone claiming that Lucifron and Stephano are better. In reality, it would be difficult to compare TLO and Stephano, and I don't think you can say one is definitively better than the other.


Stephano is definitively better than TLO. If you disagree, then LOL

Lucifron is the best at playing starcraft, TLO is the craftiest one and Stephano is the best at winning


I like all three.

i do, too.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
June 22 2013 17:32 GMT
#1414
On June 23 2013 02:28 revel8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 02:26 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:17 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:10 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:06 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:05 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:38 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
TLO isn't the best yet, Lucifron and Stephano still better, Snute on a similar level. But he needs to go from consistent RO8 to actually getting to finals to be considered best. Consistency is overrated .


Lucifron is awesome, but you can't say that Lucifron is better, TLOs beaten him at least in 3 different series when they've run into each other, and even though your criteria for being considered best is getting to finals, Lucifron has not made the finals of a premier tournament. And although Stephano has also won against TLO in the past, TLO had the upper hand in their most recent encounter, winning against him in their group at WCS Finals. Stephano also hasn't even gotten close to the finals of a premier tournament lately unless you count WCS EU, but the advantage over TLO there was the reuslt of an unlucky bracket, since TLO got paired with the eventual champion in the ro8 (who Stephano also lost to). TLO could have beaten anyone else in that top 8 to make it to the finals.


You're counting WCS EU for TLO when it comes to beating lucifron, but discounting WCS EU when talking about Stephano getting to the finals.


I'm referring to WCSU EU for lucifron because TLO and lucifron played each other head to head in that tournament. TLO and Stephano did not. So the only comparison for them at WCS EU would be their placements, but like I explained, if their bracket positions had been switched, TLO could have easily been in finals while Stephano would have been the one knocked out in the ro8, an unfortunate outcome of unlucky bracket placement (especially given the fact that they both won 1st in their groups).


When talking about what player is better than the other, head-to-head probably isn't the best way to go about it. TLO beat Lucifron a few times, but lost 0-3 to MVP. Conversely Lucifron beat MVP 2-0 when they met. And you can't say, oh if he got a bit luckier in brackets he could have gone farther, you can literally say the same thing about anyone. If Lucifron didn't get hit by a coin, he could have won Dreamhack.


You misunderstand my post - nowhere did I say that TLO is better than Stephano. My post is in response to someone claiming that Lucifron and Stephano are better. In reality, it would be difficult to compare TLO and Stephano, and I don't think you can say one is definitively better than the other.


Stephano is definitively better than TLO. If you disagree, then LOL


Don't get me wrong, Stephano is still one of the better non-koreans. Maybe I'm just inclined to be skeptical because his fanboys are so annoying. Because "LOL" is such a good argument for why he's "definitively better." Looking at their current form based on recent tournaments, Stephano has no clear advantage.
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 17:33:54
June 22 2013 17:33 GMT
#1415
I'm bulletproof, nothing to lose / fire away, fire away / ricochet, you take your aim / fire away, fire away / you shoot me down, but I won't fall / I am titanium!
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 22 2013 17:33 GMT
#1416
That korean cast vid is idd private.
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
June 22 2013 17:33 GMT
#1417
Seed should beat Happy. His PvT sure did look better yesterday.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 22 2013 17:34 GMT
#1418
On June 23 2013 02:29 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 02:28 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Translater dude just submitted this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMTl8ET7kIw

Video is private yo


Oh. Didn't notice because I was saving it for later. Let's save it for later.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
June 22 2013 17:34 GMT
#1419
On June 23 2013 02:31 ssg wrote:
Nothing like raging at a laid back HSC tournament. Class, ToD.

getting into Ro8 is actually kind of a huge deal. esp for someone like ToD who needs to start gettin dem WCS points... and he's been playing so well lately. shame his PvT is still so problematic I definitely find him to be one of the most interesting Protoss to watch
(>'.')>
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
June 22 2013 17:35 GMT
#1420
On June 23 2013 02:31 Enchanted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 02:29 Topdoller wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:25 NovemberstOrm wrote:
ToD expressing his feelings on twitter:
https://twitter.com/ToDsc2/status/348491402767892482

Whats he complaining for.it was a standard WoL game, he got outplayed simple as that

How was that getting out played he was constantly destroying happy's mining.

Poor defending of drops, bad engagements so he lost to much units
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