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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
June 22 2013 17:35 GMT
#1421
On June 23 2013 02:32 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 02:28 revel8 wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:26 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:17 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:10 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:06 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:05 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:38 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
TLO isn't the best yet, Lucifron and Stephano still better, Snute on a similar level. But he needs to go from consistent RO8 to actually getting to finals to be considered best. Consistency is overrated .


Lucifron is awesome, but you can't say that Lucifron is better, TLOs beaten him at least in 3 different series when they've run into each other, and even though your criteria for being considered best is getting to finals, Lucifron has not made the finals of a premier tournament. And although Stephano has also won against TLO in the past, TLO had the upper hand in their most recent encounter, winning against him in their group at WCS Finals. Stephano also hasn't even gotten close to the finals of a premier tournament lately unless you count WCS EU, but the advantage over TLO there was the reuslt of an unlucky bracket, since TLO got paired with the eventual champion in the ro8 (who Stephano also lost to). TLO could have beaten anyone else in that top 8 to make it to the finals.


You're counting WCS EU for TLO when it comes to beating lucifron, but discounting WCS EU when talking about Stephano getting to the finals.


I'm referring to WCSU EU for lucifron because TLO and lucifron played each other head to head in that tournament. TLO and Stephano did not. So the only comparison for them at WCS EU would be their placements, but like I explained, if their bracket positions had been switched, TLO could have easily been in finals while Stephano would have been the one knocked out in the ro8, an unfortunate outcome of unlucky bracket placement (especially given the fact that they both won 1st in their groups).


When talking about what player is better than the other, head-to-head probably isn't the best way to go about it. TLO beat Lucifron a few times, but lost 0-3 to MVP. Conversely Lucifron beat MVP 2-0 when they met. And you can't say, oh if he got a bit luckier in brackets he could have gone farther, you can literally say the same thing about anyone. If Lucifron didn't get hit by a coin, he could have won Dreamhack.


You misunderstand my post - nowhere did I say that TLO is better than Stephano. My post is in response to someone claiming that Lucifron and Stephano are better. In reality, it would be difficult to compare TLO and Stephano, and I don't think you can say one is definitively better than the other.


Stephano is definitively better than TLO. If you disagree, then LOL


Don't get me wrong, Stephano is still one of the better non-koreans. Maybe I'm just inclined to be skeptical because his fanboys are so annoying. Because "LOL" is such a good argument for why he's "definitively better." Looking at their current form based on recent tournaments, Stephano has no clear advantage.

LOL isn't a valid argument?
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 22 2013 17:35 GMT
#1422
fuck yeah Stardust
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
June 22 2013 17:35 GMT
#1423
I wonder if Rotti will wake up next week talking about Smartchecker.de.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
bsdaemon
Profile Joined July 2012
618 Posts
June 22 2013 17:35 GMT
#1424
On June 23 2013 02:29 Topdoller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 02:25 NovemberstOrm wrote:
ToD expressing his feelings on twitter:

Whats he complaining for.it was a standard WoL game, he got outplayed simple as that


That's more likely just a knee-jerk reaction after a game. ToD is a good player and after he sees the replay I'm sure he will understand why he lost.
uLysSeS1
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany210 Posts
June 22 2013 17:36 GMT
#1425
seed 2-0 happy - one oracle allin, one immortal allin, please!
derp.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 17:37:08
June 22 2013 17:36 GMT
#1426
On June 23 2013 02:35 bsdaemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 02:29 Topdoller wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:25 NovemberstOrm wrote:
ToD expressing his feelings on twitter:
https://twitter.com/ToDsc2/status/348491402767892482

Whats he complaining for.it was a standard WoL game, he got outplayed simple as that


That's more likely just a knee-jerk reaction after a game. ToD is a good player and after he sees the replay I'm sure he will understand why he lost.


yeah i hope he won't make something like this in his future games

it's so frustrating to see tod loses like this
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 22 2013 17:36 GMT
#1427
On June 23 2013 02:35 bsdaemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 02:29 Topdoller wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:25 NovemberstOrm wrote:
ToD expressing his feelings on twitter:
https://twitter.com/ToDsc2/status/348491402767892482

Whats he complaining for.it was a standard WoL game, he got outplayed simple as that


That's more likely just a knee-jerk reaction after a game. ToD is a good player and after he sees the replay I'm sure he will understand why he lost.

Because it's too damn hot ?
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Zyzz12
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany135 Posts
June 22 2013 17:37 GMT
#1428
On June 23 2013 02:36 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 02:35 bsdaemon wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:29 Topdoller wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:25 NovemberstOrm wrote:
ToD expressing his feelings on twitter:
https://twitter.com/ToDsc2/status/348491402767892482

Whats he complaining for.it was a standard WoL game, he got outplayed simple as that


That's more likely just a knee-jerk reaction after a game. ToD is a good player and after he sees the replay I'm sure he will understand why he lost.

Because it's too damn hot ?


It's not that hot today (and neither tomorrow). I'm glad this hot weather is over for now.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 22 2013 17:38 GMT
#1429
On June 23 2013 02:37 Zyzz12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 02:36 Boucot wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:35 bsdaemon wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:29 Topdoller wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:25 NovemberstOrm wrote:
ToD expressing his feelings on twitter:
https://twitter.com/ToDsc2/status/348491402767892482

Whats he complaining for.it was a standard WoL game, he got outplayed simple as that


That's more likely just a knee-jerk reaction after a game. ToD is a good player and after he sees the replay I'm sure he will understand why he lost.

Because it's too damn hot ?


It's not that hot today (and neither tomorrow). I'm glad this hot weather is over for now.

Lucky you, it's terrible in Paris :s
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Vault Boy
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany131 Posts
June 22 2013 17:38 GMT
#1430
Btw why is Stardust and Bling there, when they don't play?!?!?!
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
June 22 2013 17:38 GMT
#1431
Just had a thought, what do you think Take's power bill looks like at the end of this month?
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
June 22 2013 17:38 GMT
#1432
On June 23 2013 02:36 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 02:35 bsdaemon wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:29 Topdoller wrote:
On June 23 2013 02:25 NovemberstOrm wrote:
ToD expressing his feelings on twitter:
https://twitter.com/ToDsc2/status/348491402767892482

Whats he complaining for.it was a standard WoL game, he got outplayed simple as that


That's more likely just a knee-jerk reaction after a game. ToD is a good player and after he sees the replay I'm sure he will understand why he lost.

Because it's too damn hot ?


Strange he is playing Protoss in SC2. Tanks and towers was his specialty in WC3.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 22 2013 17:39 GMT
#1433
On June 23 2013 02:38 Vault Boy wrote:
Btw why is Stardust and Bling there, when they don't play?!?!?!

just visiting :D
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TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
June 22 2013 17:39 GMT
#1434
Stardust: "Gay"
LOL
ratbert
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1041 Posts
June 22 2013 17:39 GMT
#1435
LOL .
what if Nat Pagle and RNGesus are the same person?
Elwar
Profile Joined August 2010
953 Posts
June 22 2013 17:39 GMT
#1436
Stardust outin' Taeja like a baws.
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
June 22 2013 17:39 GMT
#1437
Epic Stardust
WhurreOdu
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1739 Posts
June 22 2013 17:39 GMT
#1438
Taeja ... wink
Fut am Bam
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
June 22 2013 17:39 GMT
#1439
lol
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Sup3rior
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden442 Posts
June 22 2013 17:39 GMT
#1440
hahaha
HELLO!!! lol! :D
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