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Norway25712 Posts
Not like free micro'd either, he had a couple Zealots attacking the nexus along with one of his Colossi. Ah well, gg I guess. I'm just glad we definitely get to see Soulkey v HerO.
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TLADT24920 Posts
On June 16 2013 16:19 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2013 16:17 vrok wrote:On June 16 2013 16:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:On June 16 2013 16:02 KristofferAG wrote:
I don't think anyone should be saying EG-TL is terrible, they're not, they're just not good enough for proleague. I would have agreed with that last until recently but look at their record, they're only one or two games off the pace of CJ and T8. If EG-TL aren't good enough for PL neither are those two. Still I might prefer to see them in GSTL next time, though not sure about that now... No, LOL. GSTL is practically dead. Proleague is the alpha and the omega of Starcraft. EG-TL just needs to try harder, and Alive needs to stop being depressed. Nope
It might not be dead but I think more people watch PL than GSTL. Personally, I've only ever watched PL and think having one team league instead of two would be better but meh lol.
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On June 16 2013 16:18 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2013 16:17 vrok wrote:On June 16 2013 16:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:On June 16 2013 16:02 KristofferAG wrote:
I don't think anyone should be saying EG-TL is terrible, they're not, they're just not good enough for proleague. I would have agreed with that last until recently but look at their record, they're only one or two games off the pace of CJ and T8. If EG-TL aren't good enough for PL neither are those two. Still I might prefer to see them in GSTL next time, though not sure about that now... No, LOL. GSTL is practically dead. Proleague is the alpha and the omega of Starcraft. It's not " dead " yet by any means, at least not until we hear that prime and azubu will officially disband.
I'll be surprised if there are more than 4 teams by the last quarter. That and the fact that these people are pretty much starving of starcraft. One (mostly one sided) winnerleague match per 2 weeks, are you kidding me?
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Norway25712 Posts
On June 16 2013 16:21 KristofferAG wrote:Poll: Recommend free v JYP?No (9) 60% If you have time (5) 33% Yes (1) 7% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend free v JYP? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
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I might not even watch sOs vs Zenio..lol
Ever see the movie Deliverance ? Yeah well, Zenio is going to squeal.
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On June 16 2013 16:23 Arceus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2013 16:18 Dodgin wrote:On June 16 2013 16:17 vrok wrote:On June 16 2013 16:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:On June 16 2013 16:02 KristofferAG wrote:
I don't think anyone should be saying EG-TL is terrible, they're not, they're just not good enough for proleague. I would have agreed with that last until recently but look at their record, they're only one or two games off the pace of CJ and T8. If EG-TL aren't good enough for PL neither are those two. Still I might prefer to see them in GSTL next time, though not sure about that now... No, LOL. GSTL is practically dead. Proleague is the alpha and the omega of Starcraft. It's not " dead " yet by any means, at least not until we hear that prime and azubu will officially disband. I'll be surprised if there are more than 4 teams by the last quarter. That and the fact that these people are pretty much starving of starcraft. One (mostly one sided) winnerleague match per 2 weeks, are you kidding me?
Yeah GSTL doesn't have enough games, that's my biggest complaint about it right now. We went 3 weeks without any GSTL matches until the two this week. Proleague probably had 10-12 series' in that time.
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On June 16 2013 16:23 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2013 16:19 Emzeeshady wrote:On June 16 2013 16:17 vrok wrote:On June 16 2013 16:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:On June 16 2013 16:02 KristofferAG wrote:
I don't think anyone should be saying EG-TL is terrible, they're not, they're just not good enough for proleague. I would have agreed with that last until recently but look at their record, they're only one or two games off the pace of CJ and T8. If EG-TL aren't good enough for PL neither are those two. Still I might prefer to see them in GSTL next time, though not sure about that now... No, LOL. GSTL is practically dead. Proleague is the alpha and the omega of Starcraft. EG-TL just needs to try harder, and Alive needs to stop being depressed. Nope It might not be dead but I think more people watch PL than GSTL. Personally, I've only ever watched PL and think having one team league instead of two would be better but meh lol.
The only reason Proleague doesn't crush GSTL in viewership is the gom production + gom casters vs whiplash and supernovamaniac. GSTL still gets a lot of viewers, Prime vs MVP peaked at about 20k viewers on twitch a few days ago.
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GSTL production is way better than PL, I would be really sad if GSTL ended.
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On June 16 2013 16:10 Ensue wrote:Rough translation of winner's interview for set 1 + Show Spoiler +"The first set's winner is EGTL's Oz! Congrats!"
Thank you
"It's been a while since we last interviewed, no?"
Yes haha
"Hows your condition today?"
Idk about condition but my luck was pretty good today. I didn't think my situation was that good, especially when I lost those 20 probes.
"After your match vs. SKT1, your reaction speed seems to have increased!"
After beating Rain, I feel like my confidence has increased and I have been playing better. ....Also, I'm the oldest in EGTL and I should do better and I was so sorry but now, I think I'm.....doing well for the oldest. ^ ^ Also I lose during the ranking a lot and the others would poke fun at me.
....
For a progamer, I'm pretty old so I was a bit slacking but now I'm working really hard so I think that there should be at least one more chance for me so I'll keep my eye open for it and will work harder.
Thanks 
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On June 16 2013 16:17 vrok wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2013 16:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:On June 16 2013 16:02 KristofferAG wrote:
I don't think anyone should be saying EG-TL is terrible, they're not, they're just not good enough for proleague. I would have agreed with that last until recently but look at their record, they're only one or two games off the pace of CJ and T8. If EG-TL aren't good enough for PL neither are those two. Still I might prefer to see them in GSTL next time, though not sure about that now... No, LOL. GSTL is practically dead. Proleague is the alpha and the omega of Starcraft. EG-TL just needs to try harder, and Alive needs to stop being depressed.
GSTL dead? Not only is it still awesome, the stream numbers have been historically much higher than Proleague. Like, I don't see any Nestea all-kills in Proleague or tomatoheads 
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Norway25712 Posts
On June 16 2013 16:26 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2013 16:23 BigFan wrote:On June 16 2013 16:19 Emzeeshady wrote:On June 16 2013 16:17 vrok wrote:On June 16 2013 16:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:On June 16 2013 16:02 KristofferAG wrote:
I don't think anyone should be saying EG-TL is terrible, they're not, they're just not good enough for proleague. I would have agreed with that last until recently but look at their record, they're only one or two games off the pace of CJ and T8. If EG-TL aren't good enough for PL neither are those two. Still I might prefer to see them in GSTL next time, though not sure about that now... No, LOL. GSTL is practically dead. Proleague is the alpha and the omega of Starcraft. EG-TL just needs to try harder, and Alive needs to stop being depressed. Nope It might not be dead but I think more people watch PL than GSTL. Personally, I've only ever watched PL and think having one team league instead of two would be better but meh lol. The only reason Proleague doesn't crush GSTL in viewership is the gom production + gom casters vs whiplash and supernovamaniac. GSTL still gets a lot of viewers, Prime vs MVP peaked at about 20k viewers on twitch a few days ago.
Gotta keep in mind that there are people that have followed those teams since they started up. People that didn't necessarily follow BW at all, and don't care that much about the Kespa teams.
Also GSTL seem to care more about foreign viewers than PL.
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On June 16 2013 16:29 KristofferAG wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2013 16:26 Dodgin wrote:On June 16 2013 16:23 BigFan wrote:On June 16 2013 16:19 Emzeeshady wrote:On June 16 2013 16:17 vrok wrote:On June 16 2013 16:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:On June 16 2013 16:02 KristofferAG wrote:
I don't think anyone should be saying EG-TL is terrible, they're not, they're just not good enough for proleague. I would have agreed with that last until recently but look at their record, they're only one or two games off the pace of CJ and T8. If EG-TL aren't good enough for PL neither are those two. Still I might prefer to see them in GSTL next time, though not sure about that now... No, LOL. GSTL is practically dead. Proleague is the alpha and the omega of Starcraft. EG-TL just needs to try harder, and Alive needs to stop being depressed. Nope It might not be dead but I think more people watch PL than GSTL. Personally, I've only ever watched PL and think having one team league instead of two would be better but meh lol. The only reason Proleague doesn't crush GSTL in viewership is the gom production + gom casters vs whiplash and supernovamaniac. GSTL still gets a lot of viewers, Prime vs MVP peaked at about 20k viewers on twitch a few days ago. Gotta keep in mind that there are people that have followed those teams since they started up. People that didn't necessarily follow BW at all, and don't care that much about the Kespa teams. Also GSTL seem to care more about foreign viewers than PL.
The whole " we don't care about BW players and we've always followed eSF teams " was true like 8 months ago, but Kespa has been here for over a year now so I don't think It's as true anymore.
GOM obviously cares more about foreign viewers or kespa would spend more money to get better english casters.
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On June 16 2013 16:26 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2013 16:23 BigFan wrote:On June 16 2013 16:19 Emzeeshady wrote:On June 16 2013 16:17 vrok wrote:On June 16 2013 16:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:On June 16 2013 16:02 KristofferAG wrote:
I don't think anyone should be saying EG-TL is terrible, they're not, they're just not good enough for proleague. I would have agreed with that last until recently but look at their record, they're only one or two games off the pace of CJ and T8. If EG-TL aren't good enough for PL neither are those two. Still I might prefer to see them in GSTL next time, though not sure about that now... No, LOL. GSTL is practically dead. Proleague is the alpha and the omega of Starcraft. EG-TL just needs to try harder, and Alive needs to stop being depressed. Nope It might not be dead but I think more people watch PL than GSTL. Personally, I've only ever watched PL and think having one team league instead of two would be better but meh lol. The only reason Proleague doesn't crush GSTL in viewership is the gom production + gom casters vs whiplash and supernovamaniac. GSTL still gets a lot of viewers, Prime vs MVP peaked at about 20k viewers on twitch a few days ago.
Television vs Internet man. LG would have moved a few million more Optimus, players would have mention 10 more sponsors if IM plays at Yongsan
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On June 16 2013 16:32 Arceus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2013 16:26 Dodgin wrote:On June 16 2013 16:23 BigFan wrote:On June 16 2013 16:19 Emzeeshady wrote:On June 16 2013 16:17 vrok wrote:On June 16 2013 16:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:On June 16 2013 16:02 KristofferAG wrote:
I don't think anyone should be saying EG-TL is terrible, they're not, they're just not good enough for proleague. I would have agreed with that last until recently but look at their record, they're only one or two games off the pace of CJ and T8. If EG-TL aren't good enough for PL neither are those two. Still I might prefer to see them in GSTL next time, though not sure about that now... No, LOL. GSTL is practically dead. Proleague is the alpha and the omega of Starcraft. EG-TL just needs to try harder, and Alive needs to stop being depressed. Nope It might not be dead but I think more people watch PL than GSTL. Personally, I've only ever watched PL and think having one team league instead of two would be better but meh lol. The only reason Proleague doesn't crush GSTL in viewership is the gom production + gom casters vs whiplash and supernovamaniac. GSTL still gets a lot of viewers, Prime vs MVP peaked at about 20k viewers on twitch a few days ago. Television vs Internet man. LG would have moved a few million more Optimus, players would have mention 10 more sponsors if IM plays at Yongsan
I agree and I really think IM will play in proleague next season just for the increased advertising, I thought we were talking about the foreign audience though.
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Rough translation of winner's interview for Set 2
+ Show Spoiler +"The winner of Set 2, congratulations free from Woongjin Stars!"
Thank you
"How were you feeling?"
After losing a lot, I was really stressed but today, even when I do well, I told myself to not lose the lead.
"What do you think about your play in HotS?"
Well with more practice, there's less uneasiness.
"If Woongjin wins today, you guys will definitely be 1st for the playoffs, do you think it'll be possible?"
Well we lost 0-4 in our previous match so we think we'll do well today and our future games.
"Wait you mean the other games for this round?"
Haha no, I mean today's sets. Afterwards, we'll have to work hard to do well when the times comes to it.
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Norway25712 Posts
On June 16 2013 16:31 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2013 16:29 KristofferAG wrote:On June 16 2013 16:26 Dodgin wrote:On June 16 2013 16:23 BigFan wrote:On June 16 2013 16:19 Emzeeshady wrote:On June 16 2013 16:17 vrok wrote:On June 16 2013 16:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:On June 16 2013 16:02 KristofferAG wrote:
I don't think anyone should be saying EG-TL is terrible, they're not, they're just not good enough for proleague. I would have agreed with that last until recently but look at their record, they're only one or two games off the pace of CJ and T8. If EG-TL aren't good enough for PL neither are those two. Still I might prefer to see them in GSTL next time, though not sure about that now... No, LOL. GSTL is practically dead. Proleague is the alpha and the omega of Starcraft. EG-TL just needs to try harder, and Alive needs to stop being depressed. Nope It might not be dead but I think more people watch PL than GSTL. Personally, I've only ever watched PL and think having one team league instead of two would be better but meh lol. The only reason Proleague doesn't crush GSTL in viewership is the gom production + gom casters vs whiplash and supernovamaniac. GSTL still gets a lot of viewers, Prime vs MVP peaked at about 20k viewers on twitch a few days ago. Gotta keep in mind that there are people that have followed those teams since they started up. People that didn't necessarily follow BW at all, and don't care that much about the Kespa teams. Also GSTL seem to care more about foreign viewers than PL. The whole " we don't care about BW players and we've always followed eSF teams " was true like 8 months ago, but Kespa has been here for over a year now so I don't think It's as true anymore. GOM obviously cares more about foreign viewers or kespa would spend more money to get better english casters.
Guess I worded it wrong, what I meant is that people are bigger fans of the eSF teams and players because they've been following them since the start, not that they don't care about kespa teams.
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On June 16 2013 16:28 Evil_Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2013 16:17 vrok wrote:On June 16 2013 16:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:On June 16 2013 16:02 KristofferAG wrote:
I don't think anyone should be saying EG-TL is terrible, they're not, they're just not good enough for proleague. I would have agreed with that last until recently but look at their record, they're only one or two games off the pace of CJ and T8. If EG-TL aren't good enough for PL neither are those two. Still I might prefer to see them in GSTL next time, though not sure about that now... No, LOL. GSTL is practically dead. Proleague is the alpha and the omega of Starcraft. EG-TL just needs to try harder, and Alive needs to stop being depressed. GSTL dead? Not only is it still awesome, the stream numbers have been historically much higher than Proleague. Like, I don't see any Nestea all-kills in Proleague or tomatoheads
The point is that there is barely ever any content, too many teams/players with zero chance, and a looming threat of teams disbanding. If you like the show aspect that's fine, I agree that GOMTV production and casters are much better, but it's just not relevant any more. Playing competitive Starcraft is what matters and GSTL can't deliver.
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On June 16 2013 16:32 Arceus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2013 16:26 Dodgin wrote:On June 16 2013 16:23 BigFan wrote:On June 16 2013 16:19 Emzeeshady wrote:On June 16 2013 16:17 vrok wrote:On June 16 2013 16:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:On June 16 2013 16:02 KristofferAG wrote:
I don't think anyone should be saying EG-TL is terrible, they're not, they're just not good enough for proleague. I would have agreed with that last until recently but look at their record, they're only one or two games off the pace of CJ and T8. If EG-TL aren't good enough for PL neither are those two. Still I might prefer to see them in GSTL next time, though not sure about that now... No, LOL. GSTL is practically dead. Proleague is the alpha and the omega of Starcraft. EG-TL just needs to try harder, and Alive needs to stop being depressed. Nope It might not be dead but I think more people watch PL than GSTL. Personally, I've only ever watched PL and think having one team league instead of two would be better but meh lol. The only reason Proleague doesn't crush GSTL in viewership is the gom production + gom casters vs whiplash and supernovamaniac. GSTL still gets a lot of viewers, Prime vs MVP peaked at about 20k viewers on twitch a few days ago. Television vs Internet man. LG would have moved a few million more Optimus, players would have mention 10 more sponsors if IM plays at Yongsan
Maybe, we have never seen TV numbers for sc2 so it's hard to say. Something needs to be done with GSTL, even with less teams (If Azubu/Prime did die) I'm sure they could find a format that is more exciting than it is atm.
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How do you not remember CJ face? (–_–)
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United States23455 Posts
GSTL sometimes gets more people than Proleague.
Right now, neither is really prestigious. I'll wait for my final judgment when playoffs/finals come. I'm hoping OGN doesn't totally disregard the Proleague finals. After a fucking year of playing, hopefully they go all out.
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